37-character line without spaces much better...SM
Posted By: Chickadee on 2007-02-22
In Reply to: line count - Michele
Hi! I just checked an OP note I did yesterday. Characters with spaces was 5935. I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, so that came out to 91.3 lines.
Characters without spaces was 4999. So, if you divide that by 37, you get 135.1 lines.
In the first scenario, I would get paid $8.22.
In the second scenario, I would get paid $12.16. (If both pay the same per line...9 cents in this example).
So, you would definitely do better to accept the 37-character line withOUT spaces! :)
Chickadee
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it sounds like a 55-character line without spaces
Yes they do; 65-character line, spaces included NM
TransHealth pays for spaces & headers on a 65 character line. sm
I recommend them highly. Stable company, good platform, great benefits. I'm happy there.
I emailed and asked. Said it was 65-character line with spaces or black and white.
clear as mud.
65 character lines with spaces
I don't think so. You're going to do a lot of typing to get all those lines. They don't pay spaces, no way!
But if they are saying per character are they including spaces?
I'd ask if a space = a character. ;)
7 cpl character with spaces....EMDAT sucks...sm
Not worth the hassle of filling in demo info manually spending inordinate amount of time searching patient lists that are 3 or more pages long....YUCK
Visible black character spaces
I work for a company that only pays VBC and let me tell you it takes forever to get that line count. In my opinion that space bar does not move by itself. Getting cheated but I need the job.
visible black character (VBC) spaces not counted SM
I just ran across this as bit long article but it is worth saving to your PC and reading a bit at a time. I recall posting that Probity used this, I posted this meant NO SPACES and somebody came back and said they do pay for them. Boy they are really really making extensive calculation, guess always have and we did not know it.
Last year, KLAS reported that the industry appeared to be moving towards a standard
pricing model based on visual black characters (VBC), especially given the joint announcement from AHIMA and MTIA endorsing the adoption of VBC. The vision was for the VBC to be used to develop service level agreements, benchmark internal
transcription performance, foster better business relationships with the MTSOs, and improve the tools for evaluating and selecting MTSO partners. However, based on this body of research, adoption of this standard has been slow and billing per line is still the predominant approach.
http://www.californiahia.org/Content/ul/8694//Kivi_Dale_Transcriptions_New_Standards.pdf
VBC - visible black character - no spaces, returns,
It reduces your pay by about 30%, because you still have to hit the spacebar and return even though you are not paid for it.
Cquence pay is 65-character with NO spaces, only black characters which equates to
approximately 1.5 to 2 cents per line less than 65-character with spaces.
Thanks for the info! Do you *feel* like you make more with a gross line v. character line? (nm)
Could someone help me with the figuring out of gross line versus character line? sm
I have generally been paid by character line, 65-character line. Now, I have had job opportunities offering to pay gross line but it like 3 cents cheaper than what I am being paid now. A few places I have read that gross line is MUCH better, but is it much better if the pay is so much lower? Please explain how it works or equals out. This position has offered me 6 cents per gross line - what would that equal out to in character lines? Thanks...so confused...
Ask what is a line. I was offered 6 clp for a 42 black character line sm
that seemed to strange, but really it was not so bad. Came out pretty close to a 65 k/s line at 8.5 to 9.
A gross line is any line that has a character on it, so even if
a line just has one character on it, it is considered a line. If you are getting 6 cpl per gross that is approximately equal to 8 cpl based on 65 characters. Sometimes the font on a gross line can make it be less than that though.
The Above is for a 65-character line.
Sorry...I left that part out. Thanks.
8.5 for 70 character line
That is what I thought. The guy I talked to said this was the same as 9 cents per 65 character line or a little more.
It is not 65 character line. It probably would come out to 75-
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They also pay on a 55 character line rather than 65.
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When they say 62 character line or sm
68 character line, or 55 or 65. What is better for the MT? I am dense. Thanks.
55-character line
Is a program that measures on a 55-character line good or bad? Don't they generally do 65-character? I know this is dumb, but which is better?
If it is a 65 character line and being
counted by VBC, then soneone on another post said you cpl should go up 2 cents to equal out the difference in pay.
what is a 65 character-defined line?
what is a 65 character defined line?
Question, what does 65 character B/W line mean? I'm not sure what the B/W is??(nm)
Hmm, exactly what is a 65-character gross line?
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SoftScript's Character Line
I am interested in SoftScript's pay rate.
I heard they pay by a 65 character line? What do they use as their words per line rate?
I am working for a company who uses 8 words per line and am curious as to how this would compare to SoftScript? Any information would be helpful!
Thanks!
GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER
I am wondering which is better. Is gross line better than 65 character line with spaces. Thanks
I'm jealous! Is it gross line or 65 character? I am also
on an ER account with EXText but I cannot get near that. Any tips to share? I love working at Keystrokes but would love to get those kind of lines even more!
Any math wizards out there that can help..Based on a 65 character line,
if you were not paid for spaces, what would 11 cpl (w/o) equal? It sounded good, but when I did the math it was lower than 8 cpl with spaces? I hope I'm not right.
Sorry I know people have asked this before but I couldnt remember answer.
depends on whether you need benefits. If not, go with 9 per 55 character line. more money. nm
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I'm confused. It says 09 cents per 65-character GROSS line. sm
What is a 65 character **gross** line??
ChartNet is a 70 or 75 character line count. Check into it. nm
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Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.
You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.
Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
So you don't get paid for headers/footers... just a straight 65 character line
How about spaces?
If you don't get paid for H/F, are you given a higher line rate?
Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm
if there seven words on a line.
or two
one
or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines. not the blank spaces between the lines.
Hope this helps.
I see they pay on a VBC line. Isn't that a huge paycut from a 65-char. line with spaces? nm
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10 spaces per line
that's the average using 1 space after a period which most places already do.
An average line has 10 words.
so if you are being paid VBC, make sure you are being paid on a 55 char line or less.
Spaces are about 27% of a 65 char line
nm
55 char line with spaces
Ok guys how does a 55 char line WITH spaces = to a 65 char line. I was offered 8 for 55 char line with spaces and counts underlines, bolds, hard returns etc.
55 char line with spaces
Is 8cpl for a 55 char line with spaces and double counts for bold, underline, etc a good rate. Sorry, but i am used to getting paid for a 65 character line. What does this equal out to? Does anyone know how to figure it out. TIA!!
Of course they pay for spaces and I believe the line counts to be appropriate sm
I said appropriate without making a statement about accuracy. My body knows when I have made my 1100 minimum. I can do that in about half to two-thirds of a shift. I can tell when I am at my usual 1600 to 1700 lines for a day too.
I'll agree...base rate is not stellar, but then again I never make that...I make more. I am routinely on the third line rate incentive tier, which puts me up above the last line rate I was paid. There is a QA bonus and I have gotten that which is per line bonus back to line one. It is easy for high-caliber MTs to make very good money.
With the better insurance rates they have come up with, all those bonuses and the wonderful people...well I have found my heaven on earth.
Is their line 65 chars with spaces, etc.?
What platform are you using? (Do they have more than one?) Were you able to get a rate equivalent to what MDI paid you?
8.5 cents per 70 char/line with spaces
Does anyone get paid like this? Is this good?
Is a 55-char line without spaces good?
Does anyone know how a 55-character line WITHOUT spaces would compare to a 65-character line WITH spaces? Which one is better?
Difference in line counts with/without spaces
I'm looking at swtiching companies but I'm tryint to figure out approximately what the pay would be like. If I take the new job I would start at $ 0.005 less than what I currentently am paid but I would be paid for spaces and the job I curerntly have does not pay for spaces. Any imput is appreciated.
Thanks
Yes, adjusted line rate when they took the spaces away
nm
The average 65-char line has more than 10 spaces.
Your math is flawed.
Not paying for spaces can be okay if the characters per line is shorter.
55 characters without spaces is roughly equivalent to 65 with spaces.
Not true. They pay based on a 65-char line with spaces.
nm
PS - pay based on 65-char line, SPACES INCLUDED. SM
Also paid for weekend work, 2nd and 3rd shift differential. Bonus plan based on production.
they do not pay for spaces, line count not verified, check archives!! nm
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