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I'm confused. It says 09 cents per 65-character GROSS line. sm

Posted By: Curious on 2007-09-13
In Reply to: Brochure - OldHabits

What is a 65 character **gross** line??


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Thanks for the info! Do you *feel* like you make more with a gross line v. character line? (nm)

Hmm, exactly what is a 65-character gross line?
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Could someone help me with the figuring out of gross line versus character line? sm
I have generally been paid by character line, 65-character line.  Now, I have had job opportunities offering to pay gross line but it like 3 cents cheaper than what I am being paid now.  A few places I have read that gross line is MUCH better, but is it much better if the pay is so much lower?  Please explain how it works or equals out.  This position has offered me 6 cents per gross line - what would that equal out to in character lines?  Thanks...so confused...
GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER
I am wondering which is better.  Is gross line better than 65 character line with spaces.  Thanks
I'm jealous! Is it gross line or 65 character? I am also
on an ER account with EXText but I cannot get near that. Any tips to share? I love working at Keystrokes but would love to get those kind of lines even more!
Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.

You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.

Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
Oh, they make money off us. Line rate is 17 cents a gross line.nm
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A gross line is any line that has a character on it, so even if

a line just has one character on it, it is considered a line.   If you are getting 6 cpl per gross that is approximately equal to 8 cpl based on 65 characters.  Sometimes the font on a gross line can make it be less than that though. 


Pay is six cents gross line.
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Exactly. I work for a chiropractor and I get 10 cents a gross line.
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The norm in the 80s was 4 cents per Gross Line, not 65 char with spaces. nm
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7-8 gross is great. That is equivalent to 10-12 65 character lines, as a gross
line is about 35% lower than a 65 character line. Will you share who is paying this>
What is average? 7 cents, 8 cents, 9 cents? 65-character?
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Gross or character lines
In word, under properties they do not count headers that occur on every page.  You have to add that in by the numer of pages, i.e. if you are doing a long psych report that is 9 to 15 pages and have a headed on every page.  I could be wrong and if so let me know.   I just did a count with a header and those lines were not counted.   But if you are doing a cpl you can count characters with and without spaces.  But again in word they do not count extra characters for capitalization, bold, underline, etc where as in line counting program, Sylcount, they do.  So will you be using your program or theirs to count lines?  Gross or per 65 cpl. 
Gross lines versus 65 character
What is 7 or 8 cpl gross equivalent to in 65 character
A gross line is not based on characters. A gross line is
anything on the line constitutes a line, so if you only have 1 word on a line it is still counted as a line.   A gross line at 8 cpl roughly translates to 10 cpl/65 character. 
I also work for 8 cents a line. I left a job typing OPs for 10-11 cents sm
to take a clinic job. I made an average of $17-18 an hour with OPs, now make $16-17 an hour, but the work is easier on me. I do not call that poor pay. I type 200+ lines an hour. True, it isn't the $26-27 an hour I was making 10 years ago at a hospital, but that's gone for good. I have excellent skills, make better than 99% on QA at any company I have worked for, and some of those have been very demanding.

I'm afraid the people that are expecting to make $20-30 an hour in MT are going to be disappointed. A few can still make that amount, but for the average good transcriptionist, the pay is much more likely to run $15-20. Benefits are pretty much gone. However, I feel that what I'm making is considerably above what I could make in another field, unless I decide to teach, which I will not do. Still, I make more than I would at Walmart or Burger King, or even a secretarial job. It's my choice. Good luck to you.
Ask what is a line. I was offered 6 clp for a 42 black character line sm
that seemed to strange, but really it was not so bad.  Came out pretty close to a 65 k/s line at 8.5 to 9.
Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm

if there seven words on a line.


or two


one


or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines.  not the blank spaces between the lines.


Hope this helps.


The mentoring program does not pay 8-1/2 cents per line. Believe it is like 6 cents.
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The Above is for a 65-character line.
Sorry...I left that part out.  Thanks.
8.5 for 70 character line
That is what I thought.  The guy I talked to said this was the same as 9 cents per 65 character line or a little more.
It is not 65 character line. It probably would come out to 75-
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They also pay on a 55 character line rather than 65.
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When they say 62 character line or sm
68 character line, or 55 or 65. What is better for the MT? I am dense. Thanks.
55-character line
Is a program that measures on a 55-character line good or bad? Don't they generally do 65-character? I know this is dumb, but which is better?
If it is a 65 character line and being
counted by VBC, then soneone on another post said you cpl should go up 2 cents to equal out the difference in pay.
Do they still pay you 5 cents a line and 2 cents if you send anything to QA?
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I have a problem with 7 cents and 8 cents a line because
...when I started 15 years ago, my very first MT job started me out at 8 cents a gross line, then went to 9 cents a gross line after only a year. I was SOOO happy and proud of myself for choosing a profession that paid so well - I imagined myself making a lot of $$ once I had 10 or 15 years experience behind me...

Well that never happened; in fact, it all went backwards, pay wise. The company I worked for back then sold out to a national, and of course the pay was cut, and 9 cents a gross line was never to be had again, at least not that I could find. I am considered living in poverty now. I started out great but have ended up very badly.

I think my own personal problem is that it's hard for me to let go the fact that I made good money just starting out and how everything I had ever learned about jobs, careers and pay was that the more experience and education you have in a particular field, the more your pay goes up as each year passes. Well my pay has been consistently taking a nosedive for at least a decade now. I actually have to work MORE to make at least as much as I did years ago, and it's killing me health-wise as far as my wrists, my legs, my neck, my back....

It also kills me that I'm going to have to accept 7 or 8 cents a 65-character line when I made so much more than that 15 years ago.

I suppose to someone who's just starting out, 7 or 8 cents would seem pretty good, though. Maybe that's why I haven't been able to land any jobs with my resume. They may not want me with my years of experience, probably want a newbie who will be more grateful about such low pay. I dunno.

I could just kick myself for wasting money on MT school those years ago when I could've spent it on a career that would actually LAST and where I'd be making great money after being in the same field for 15 years. There's just no reward to this business. None at all, IMO.

I would NOT recommend this field to anyone just getting started. To me, it's a dead field.

I'd have more freedom working at McDonalds (for a number of reasons), and, believe me, I've been considering taking a local job around my home for minimum wage. At least I'd have a consistent paycheck and would know exactly what I'm getting every 2 weeks, then build from there as far as another job or two.

Well anyway that's all. I really need a job. I'm going down, going under, and it's a shame because I do very good work and have all this experience but no one seems to want me, even the low-paying companies. Oh well.
"a line is a line" means gross line.
Gross line is a line, no matter how long or short.
what is a 65 character-defined line?
what is a 65 character defined line?
Question, what does 65 character B/W line mean? I'm not sure what the B/W is??(nm)

37-character line without spaces much better...SM

Hi!  I just checked an OP note I did yesterday.  Characters with spaces was 5935.  I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, so that came out to 91.3 lines.


Characters without spaces was 4999.  So, if you divide that by 37, you get 135.1 lines.


In the first scenario, I would get paid $8.22.


In the second scenario, I would get paid $12.16. (If both pay the same per line...9 cents in this example).


So, you would definitely do better to accept the 37-character line withOUT spaces! :)


Chickadee


SoftScript's Character Line

I am interested in SoftScript's pay rate.


I heard they pay by a 65 character line? What do they use as their words per line rate?


I am working for a company who uses 8 words per line and am curious as to how this would compare to SoftScript? Any information would be helpful!


Thanks!


it sounds like a 55-character line without spaces
 
Yes they do; 65-character line, spaces included NM

Any math wizards out there that can help..Based on a 65 character line,

if you were not paid for spaces, what would 11 cpl (w/o) equal? It sounded good, but when I did the math it was lower than 8 cpl with spaces? I hope I'm not right.


Sorry I know people have asked this before but I couldnt remember answer.


 


depends on whether you need benefits. If not, go with 9 per 55 character line. more money. nm
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ChartNet is a 70 or 75 character line count. Check into it. nm
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gross line pay

If using Meditech, getting paid 8 cents/gross line is equivalent to what in getting paid per 65 cpl?    TIA


gross line pay
Sorry, that question doesn't make any sense.  What I meant basically is this:  Is 8 cents/gross line in Meditech's system good pay?  I was typing in Fusion and getting 7 cents/gross line at one time and it equalled far less lines than 7 cpl at a 65 char. line.  Does this make sense to anyone?  Thanks.
It is sad is what it is....used to be that per GROSS line.
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They did not say if it was gross line
or 65 ch, but I think that they feel that because it is part time, that is all that is deserved. Part time or not, an acceptable pay should be required. I doubt they will get many applications, except maybe a newbie looking for experience and does not have to pay rent, etc.
Gross line pay is almost ALWAYS better
depending on the rate of gross pay. For instance, I just did a sample line count in MPTools. I compared one document and counted a gross line - anything with writing on it and a 65-char line (spaces included) and I compared the rates at .10/65char and .055/gross and for the SAME REPORT it showed: $96.06 for the 65-char line and for the gross Line it was $119.96. Still more money that way. And it adds up.

For the most part, from what I have seen, .10/65-char line is about what most companies TOP OUT at, so you are still better off with a gross line, at least from what I can see in the comparison.
Is that per gross line?....
nm
Of course the gross line is more, but what is

the percentage of ESL, how easy is the platform, are there any benefits, can you be flexible with your schedule  ....


I don't know anything about either company.  I would search the boards and read everything you can find and make you a list of pros and cons. 


GROSS LINE PAY

Are there any companies left that still pay the hard-working medical transcriber by the gross line?


A gross line is a gross line, however, if
the gross line is 75 characters long, instead of the usual 65, and you have long paragraphs, then you are making less money than if you were on a 65 character count.
6 cpl per gross line

Yes, it really is gross line as you described. nm

It's 6 cpl per gross line. Nothing to

gross line, it's going to come out to the average pay for 65 character - about .085, maybe 0.09 cpl