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That is the most asinine statement to make about bad wages!!

Posted By: Movin' on on 2007-02-25
In Reply to: There are single Moms in every profession. - There are single Mom's working for minimum wage

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    That--and make a statement with your OWN
    .
    okay, what are your qualifications to make such a statement??...
    There are several 100 MTs at Cymed who depend on their jobs and do not need extra stress right now. Who did you work for that this happened to? Does your situation truly impact the current situation? Inquiring minds want to know.
    Editors need to make a statement by not
    accepting these jobs. BY THE HOUR PEOPLE!! Tell these companies that pay by the line no way. It is **expertise** they are paying for here. I won't do it. I will get out of the field first.
    Oh, but its OK that the MTs barely make living wages?
    Shall we feel sorry for the poor MTSOs now?  Please...buying meat past the expiration - most of this winter I had to hit the FOOD BANKS, and while working full time.
    But how do MTSOs make sure that clients will pay those wages we sm
    demand? We have to keep in mind that hospitals are under a lot of pressure to reduce costs too.
    That statement doesn't make any sense at all
    x
    Mortgage? On an MT's wages? Dont make me laff!
    nm
    Quit jumping on people who make that statement. Doubt she is
    xx
    Asinine

    What an asinine thing to say.  What 2 people can't have the same opinion?  How sad to live in your world.


    PLUS, a plumber sets his own hours and wages! As far as MT wages,
    x
    QA wages

    Anyone out there have any idea of how much a QA person should make per hour working at home?


    Low Wages
    When I got my VERY FIRST job transcribing, it was for a national service, and the pay was 7 cpl. It's been nearly 10 years since then - The pay for MTs has not gone up at all, and even worse, it seems to be DROPPING!!
    wages
    Yes, I totally agree. We need to unionize.
    My wages are more than that
    and like I said, you must be slow not to be able to make at least $20 an hour and yes, I can add.
    about my wages. My wages and sm
    my job are just fine. Yes we are allowed to have freedom of speech so I have mine too.
    Wages

    Since this board has become a they pay what? board, let's talk about pay.   In 1992, I was working as a receptionist and got paid $10.00 an hour.  Today, I looked in my local paper and saw ads for receptionists for $8-10 an hour.  Hasn't gone up much in 17 years!  I worked as an administrative assistant for $14.00 an hour in 1994.  Today, they are paying anywhere from $12-15 an hour.  I worked in-house for a hospital in 1999 doing medical transcription and got paid $15 an hour, plus a bonus for going over my daily lines.   Today, our in-house hospital is paying $13-15 an hour.  The local Sears store is starting their sales reps at $7.50 an hour TODAY.     My first work at home MT job was almost 10 years ago and I started out at 8 cents a line for straight typing.   Pretty much standard today.  


     


    I really don't understand the constant complaining about wages on this site.  VR is terrible, I agree with that, BUT it isn't terrible for an experienced MT.  What it has caused is a way for NEW MTs to compete with the experienced ones.  If you work on eScription or a similar platform, the program really can learn the doc, therefore allowing a new MT to learn while on the job.   So, us experienced MTs are working right along side someone just out of school for the same pay.  Oh well!!!   I make $120 a day on VR in 8 hours 0.04 cpl (around $16 an hour), I have hit $160 if I work a couple more hours.  So I am still making the same as if I worked in-house and I get the benefit of working from home. 


     


    Please stop the complaining already.   This job is not that hard.   When I first became an MT, the job was hard.   Well, 10 years later it is a piece of cake and I would rather make my $16 an hour any day then go work at Sears for around 7 bucks an hour. 


     


    Am I the only one getting tired of the constant complaining about pay and jobs going to India?  Gag! 


    MT wages
    What is the point of your post...to irritate already upset MTs? I think people are angry that their wages have decreased so much. I would be okay if mine stayed the same, but I am currently making 1/3 of what I did 10 years ago and working twice as hard.

    You compare our job to a Sears employee making 7.50? Well I would like to see that employee type medical records.
    Regarding SS statement.....sm
    This happened to me but I was actually working in the hospital. On a SS statement, they had me down for 0 dollars for a year...and this was 15 years ago. Since the hospital had merged and those records are nowhere to be found, I simply took my W2 down to the local SS Administrative offices and told them...they wanted to contact this employer but I told them good look, they no longer exist..and that if the fed gov took my W2, they certainly should...so they did and corrected it. Take your W2 down there pronto and get it straightened out for yourself.

    As far as your 401K, you should have been receiving quarterly statements from the company responsible for handling your 401K. Medware has a private company handling this...so do you have your statements? You should contact that company and ask them what's going on.
    statement
    Also, regarding this statement I will not work for a competitor for the next 12 months--basically stating that I will not begin to work for any company in the MT business and that I will not try to start my own business. Most companies need to give you an area (ex so many miles) that you would not work in. So try and get a definition of that statement as well.
    I do not get your last statement..

    what do you mean do not over committ, be conservative, but they appreciate when you go over your lines?  Thanks! 


    Yes, I think in your last statement
    Do not sign a contract that has you comply to a certain amount of lines because that is employee status.  I'm very flattered that you took the time to answer and copy and past, etc., but I am just stating my opinion and how IC should work if you are truly an IC.  A company cannot dictate hours, number of lines, minutes, set schedules, or anything of the such.  The only agreement signed is usually the fact that you will be contracting for that particular company and not try to take their accounts and also go along with the privacy act for patients.  I have never seen a contract for an IC that states you MUST do a certain amount of lines in a certain timeframe.  If there is a contract that states these terms, then you are considered an employee according to IRS guidelines because that is considered control. 
    What I was saying was her statement of a 30-day (sm)
    waiting period for payment with Proveros was incorrect. So I stated the real truth, which, however one views it, could be good, bad or indifferent.
    Your statement is probably the most
    idiotic one that I have heard in a long, long time. There is no one that could just spell check and make corrections there. I can tell you probably hate the idea of going on VR although seem to be headed that way because your post is so off the wall. Your behind would be out the door in no time if trying to send in work like you state. I am laughing at you and anyone else should who reads your ridiculous posting.
    Average QA wages
    Here are some known QA wages, starting out.

    OSi - around $13.50
    Transcend - around $13.50 - $14.00
    Spheris - Mostly start at $12 - $13
    MQ - $12
    Sten-Tel - $12

    In my opinion, a good QA should get 16-19, true, but that is just not the industry standard. It is lower than that.
    That way they can bring our wages down
    even further. I think some company suits must get on here and use this as their forum as an excuse as to why they rip us off. Come on people, this is what they think of us? Yeh I would say getting our own accounts or better yet just stop working for the asses that rip off. I say lets list every company on this board that cheats MTs and everyone stop working for them. Thats the only way things might change is to unite in our efforts.
    Ugh --- SLAVE wages. - (nm)
    nm
    slave wages
    These companies really want a return to slavery for the worker. The sad thing is that if you need any income, you'll take it and there is desperation out there, which they are counting on.javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');
    Slave wages??? Not here,
    Why are you earning slave wages? Maybe you should take a look at YOURSELF and what is holding YOU back! Probably easier to blame the big bad corrupt MTSO for your problems. I am not earning slave wages. I consider the $20 I make per hour to be decent. For 18 months of schooling, it's not that bad. My husband is a company executive and just took a 15% cut in pay. Hey, maybe he should organize a union for beaten down and repressed executives. Now there's an idea!
    So did I! 80's wages were great! nm
    x
    I bet you complain about your wages
    And it all can be traced to company waste, not to mention the economy. No time to be wasting money. As I said, this is MY opinion. We are allowed in this country to have freedom of speech and opinions, aren't we?
    walmart, wages, etc
    No I do not work at WalMart, never have, don't intend to.  I was told the wages recently by a greeter who works there, and she also said she gets a raise every year.  I was surprised to hear it.  I have never once told anyone to get 2 or 3 jobs, because I think that is easier said than done.  I believe people need a life too.  My whole point is simply that I think the MTSOs are largely responsible for the downturn of our wages by underbidding each other and then wanting to hire others to work for inferior wages.   I used to work in a hospital and we did it all, transcription, charting, xeroxing, etc., and we did it well, made decent wages too.   I don't think anyone should have to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet.  Especially in this job with its knowledge. I think you have misunderstood what I am saying.  I am on your side!  I am sure you are worth a lot more than being offered.
    walmart, wages, etc
    No I do not work at WalMart, never have, don't intend to.  I was told the wages recently by a greeter who works there, and she also said she gets a raise every year.  I was surprised to hear it.  I have never once told anyone to get 2 or 3 jobs, because I think that is easier said than done.  I believe people need a life too.  My whole point is simply that I think the MTSOs are largely responsible for the downturn of our wages by underbidding each other and then wanting to hire others to work for inferior wages.   I used to work in a hospital and we did it all, transcription, charting, xeroxing, etc., and we did it well, made decent wages too.   I don't think anyone should have to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet.  Especially in this job with its knowledge. I think you have misunderstood what I am saying.  I am on your side!  I am sure you are worth a lot more than being offered.
    What it will get is ever decreasing wages. n/m
    x
    That is an ignorant statement
    nm
    Where can this statement be found?
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    Please qualify that statement..have you ever used DQS?sm
    just tell me please before I jump into another rediculous platform full of demo screens to wade through before actual transcription.
    This last statement is not entirely true. nm
    x
    What a judgmental statement!!
    Sounds to me like you could use some help with your manners too, Miss Southern Politeness! I'm willing to bet you've never even been to Pittsburgh but you seem to know how RUDE everyone is there.

    What makes you an expert on regional manners and attitudes?
    I agree with your statement!
    Yes, there must be a dozen of transcription companies constantly running ads every day, week, or month for the same type of job, etc. You would think they would save all of the hundreds of resumes they get the first time, but I guess that's another story. This job is a scary field today than it was 10 or 20 years ago. With so many jobs being outsourced to India or going straight to voice recognition, I cannot even imagine getting a decent salary with everything going on. It's very scary. I think medical billing/insurance is the next Career Step we should take because there seems to be tons of jobs out there since all doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, etc., want to get paid!!! Might be something for us to think about down the road before transcription gets phased out.
    Problem with your statement is
    that in this job, I 10 years ago I was making twice what I make now. All my expenses have gone up, but earning power has gone down. How am I supposed to have a spotless credit record when they send my job over to India (happened with no notice at one medium-sized MTSO), raise my medical and dental ins. rates and deductibles, require me to furnish my own computer, my own internet connection, while they cut my pay rate by not paying for headers and footers, then not paying for spaces and returns, then redefining what a line is paying me the same rate cpl while making the line longer (esp. since they don't pay for spaces which means I don't get paid for about 1/4th of my keystrokes)?

    I don't have awful credit, but I don't have great credit anymore because I have found myself with short paychecks because my employers overhired new MTs, delayed bringing on new accounts, etc. Many other MTs have experienced similar situations. Then, there are family members, and other situations that can result in ruined credit - none of which are any indication of how you handle money or how responsible you are.

    They have work references to determine how responsible you are at work, not credit checks.

    Besides, these credit bureaus and businesses are always coming up with new ways to mark up everyone's credit anyway. Now they mark it against you if someone checks your credit - absurd. People should raise h--l about the way we are treated in this country. We are treated like commodities for the corporations - as if we are mere consumer units.
    The first statement is true. I obviously SM
    cannot name names, but I'm talking about large facilities and not small hospitals in small towns. No offense if you live in small town.

    I agree with your second comment.
    I'd like to correct the statement about ICs (sm)

    I'd like to correct the statement about ICs working for other people and not owning their own business.


    I own my own business.  I work as an IC for the clients I transcribe for.  I filled out a 1099 and do the same work any other MT does with the exception that I don't work for an MTSO who is making money off me while I'm doing all the work.


    I wouldn't dream of trying to acquire a client and then have them hold my hand.  That's why I waited as long as I did to finally go out and get my own accounts. 


    Statement made that **** is SM
    now working for Softscript.  I thought she was working for Precyse.  I know none of this actually matters, I'm just wondering. 
    you need to back up your statement with Why
    nm
    I am astonished at your statement
    I am 66 years old and I would hope never to have started this job as a newbie, I would just blow the top of my head off. I started transcription in the 70s. What makes you think you know that only newbies like VR?? Surely to God you have better sense than to really think this. I cannot believe what I read here.
    From your statement it seems like you are overwhelmed with ASR
    I have been working on the same system now for about 5 years and no outsourcing on our job because of it. I still have corrections to make, numbering seems to be an issue some as I have been told the dictators when numbering should all say next and then the machine knows to go to the next number but the dictators do not always do that. I am saying I was told that, do not quote on that point. My pay was never cut 50%, I make over $20+ an hour on voice now and right from the start (again has to do with system and training) our system just seemed to be an exceptional one. Some people do not like, others like me love it. No I am not MTSO, never have been, no I have no stock in the company, no I am not a newbie (30+ years here) and no I am not a slow transcriptionist. Just thought I would answer all the come backs before they appear. The same ones appear over and over as to why a person could possibly like voice. If most at your company entered almost exactly alike, the machine would train itself. If everyone works differently, say 1 person indents for numbering, another does not, then there is the issue. Sorry you have had such unhappy time with your program.
    That statement never made by the OP
    She said she sucked it up.
    Now I truly realize with that statement
    Brillant, hehe. Associating with the group that is having those infamous tea parties- now the postings make sense taking up for her. I get it. What kind of nuts do you like?
    Taking a cut in wages with new company.

    Am considering taking 1 and 1/2 cent a line cut with a new company, unlimited work, no set schedules, employee status with benefits.  They count each line typed (including headers, carbon copies, etc) and spaces.  I am thinking I will come out ahead over DQS program.  I know after being on DQS all this time my line count has NEVER returned to what it was prior, close but not there. 



    Anyone taken this big of a cut without a suicide note? 


    I think I will try it part time to be sure, but if the LPH are better than DQS I may take the dive and go FT. 


     


    No, but they want Exceptional MTs at those pitsy wages, too! nm
    s
    Fighting low wages: Has anyone ever considered trying to (sm)

    organize MTs throughout the country?  It seems like, judging by what I read in MR forums, that part of the problem is that when people first come into the business, they have no idea of what their hard work is worth.  Regardless of the fact that hospitals want to pay the lowest possible price for transcription, the only people who should be settling for less than 10, 12 or more cents/line are ESLs in India, etc.  American workers should be standing up for American wages.  Yes, there are some companies who will say, Fine, I'll contract with India.  Believe me, you wouldn't want those companies as employers, or to work for hospitals or clinics that operate that way.  Heck... I sure wouldn't put my care in the hands of a doc that uses offshore transcription services, that's for sure! 


    SO, what I'm saying is, there must be some way to bring MTs from all areas, and of all experience levels together (OUTSIDE of AAMT, which has been in large part responsible for alot of the problem!), and organize for a decent living wage and health benefits.  If all of us were to stop working for 3 days, 1 week max, do you think that work would all suddenly be sent offshore?  I don't think so.  Some might, but then again, it's a good way to week out the undesirable clients & employers. 


    I think we our often our own worst enemy when it comes to wages.  If we continue to accept less than what we're worth, then that's all we can expect to earn.


    Also, I'm surprised that some entrepreneuring MT company hasn't cashed in on all the newbies and in-school MTs out there who just want experience and a chance.  Imagine if one of the larger, more respected services were to open an MT SCHOOL as well.  They would receive an income from instruction fees.  MTs could gradually cross over from student to trainee.  MTs could earn extra money as teachers.  (And should be paid well for it, too.)  The company training the MTs would have first pick of the best and brightest for work in their own company.  Beyond that, there would be more money to be made when it comes to referrals. 


    The healthcare industry needs to be more educated in the fact that transcription is a vital part of their work, and how well their reports are done is a direct reflection of their competency.  If you look at how much money is wasted in these establishments on FLUFF -- excess management, inept management, some community programs, and in some cases excess in building glitz and glamour, one has to wonder why they feel transcription is a less-valuable service than those provided by their janitors, groundskeepers, or food service personnel.


    One way to fight the low-wage problem is to continue to lobby for an end to offshoring of personal information, not only in the healthcare industry, but in ALL American industry.  NO personal data: phone numbers, credit card numbers, etc. should EVER leave American soil without the express written consent of the owner of that data.


    Another way to fight low wages is to do as much research as possible on prospective employers.  Remember, they are not just interviewing you, you are also interviewing THEM!  Go with the best-paying company you can find.  If you are new to the field, that will be harder, but in your case finding the best learning environment is your best bet, and then work hard at getting proficient enough to be able to LEAVE a low-paying employer ASAP for a better-paying one. 


    In terms of being an IC, I know it's difficult to deal with people undercutting you.  But once again, don't forget that when someone turns down high-quality transcription and goes with the lower-quality provider, simply because of a couple-cent-per-line difference in cost, the way to look at that client is Good Riddance!  I used to have my own, non-MT, service-related business.  I had two ways of weeding out the undesireables: 


    One was a waiver of liability.  If they squawked about signing it, or started picking it apart like they were big legal experts, then I knew right away they were a future legal liability.  (Of course, that is less of an issue with MT... I don't know of MTs that make clients sign waivers!  It's just a 'fer instance.)  But the best way to weed out the cheapskates and nit-pickers was to charge a slightly HIGHER fee than my competitors.  I offered a higher-quality, more personalized service than my competitors.  So I stood firm on my prices.  And you know what?  There are clients who will actually LOOK for the higher fee, knowing that if you can command and get a higher fee, you are probably a better service provider. 


    Also, steer clear of new clients who want a special deal or discount right off the bat.  They will NEVER be satisfied; give them an inch and they'll take a mile.  I believe that discounted rates are EARNED, not given out on demand.  A long-time client who is honest, pays on time, tips, is slightly flexible, etc., who gives you steady, reliable work that is easier to do, should be rewarded with a deal.  But that deal should only be between you and them, and not broadcast to other clients.


    Some of my BEST business clients turned out to be people who at first pooh-poohed my fees, and went with the cheaper provider.  Quite a few of them came crawling back on their hands and knees later; sadder but wiser, and more than willing to pay what I charged.  And often they had such a big mess that needed to be straightened out (usually caused by the cheaper provider) that I initially had to charge EXTRA, on top of my normal fees, to straighten it all out!  These people often came to be my biggest TIPPERS, as well! 


     I think we have all been conditioned to believe we are lucky to have a job at all, and we need to start rethinking that.  MT's need to stick together, network, lobby against offshoring and unfair pay, UNIONIZE if at all possible or beneficial, and be far more VOCAL.  The normally quiet nature of most MTs and their behind-the-scenes work usually works against them when it comes to fair labor practices!  Those of us with many years of experience & skill need to TURN DOWN job offers that are insultingly low. 


    Anyway, that's my take on the el-cheapo employers & clients, and the low pay they think we'll get down on our knees and thank them for!   


    Happy 2007!