can DQS be set up to count gross lines? nm
Posted By: wondering on 2005-11-17
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7-8 gross is great. That is equivalent to 10-12 65 character lines, as a gross
line is about 35% lower than a 65 character line. Will you share who is paying this>
Yes, if gross line count and easy dictator
to start with.
gross lines
I know that this has been posted numerous times but I have never paid much attention to it until now...seems like lines must be 100 characters long or something. Anyway, what is that formula for checking gross lines against the 65-character line? Thanks.
gross lines
Gross lines means anything that is on a line, i.e. signature on a letter, date, etc., is a line - usually the standard for gross lines is Courier 12 with one inch margins. There is a formula that will give you a pretty good estimate of gross lines versus other line counts, but essentially if you multiply gross lines x 1.44, you get a pretty good estimate of the pay per line you would need with a 65 char line to equal a gross line. For example, if you are being paid 8 cpl gross lines, you would need to make roughly 11.5 cpl on a 65 char line to approximate the same rate of pay. That depends, of course, on lots of factors and is just an estimate (actual gross line pay is usually even more, depending on if you have a lot of short lines, etc.) I know companies that charge their clients by the gross line, then PAY their MTs on a 65 char line - VERY bad business if you ask me. As a rule, you get a better deal with gross lines any way you slice it - just make sure they mean gross lines with 1 margins and Courier 12 font.
If the pay is REALLY on gross lines
I'd snag it at 6 cpl and be danged glad to get it. Haven't heard of anyone paying on gross lines in probably 15 years so I kind of have to wonder if there isn't something a little fishy.
Gross lines unless it is a line of 72+
characters or more, then you can really get cheated. Once company that has someone plugging for them on MTChat pays gross lines, but those lines are up to 84-104 characters in some parts of the report, so you really get taken to the cleaners with the gross count.
What companies still pay gross lines?
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Gross or character lines
In word, under properties they do not count headers that occur on every page. You have to add that in by the numer of pages, i.e. if you are doing a long psych report that is 9 to 15 pages and have a headed on every page. I could be wrong and if so let me know. I just did a count with a header and those lines were not counted. But if you are doing a cpl you can count characters with and without spaces. But again in word they do not count extra characters for capitalization, bold, underline, etc where as in line counting program, Sylcount, they do. So will you be using your program or theirs to count lines? Gross or per 65 cpl.
55 is better. After gross lines, companies
went to 55 character lines, and now 65 character lines.
With the 55-char line, you only have to type 55 characters to get your line rather than 65.
Gross lines versus 65 character
What is 7 or 8 cpl gross equivalent to in 65 character
Doesn't FirstChoice pay gross lines? If so, then
6 or 7 cpl gross would be equivalent to about 8-9. Not very good, but could be worse.
Meditech usually pays by gross lines so I find
that it works out about the same, maybe even a little more per hour. That has just been my experience, though.
Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.
You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.
Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
How does one count one's lines on DQS to make sure one's
If I could count lines, I would know if they were cheating
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Do 1 space and count lines and then do 2
It really doesn't affect the line count that much to do the 1 space after punctuation. I agree 100% that they are trying to whittle our wages away wherever, but I don't think this particular issue is a big one. I get virtually the same lines whether 1 space or 2 after sentences. I'm more concerned about the virtual black line that would eliminate ALL spaces like AAMT (or whatever it's called now) is pushing than just a few spaces per report. This is why it's so important for all MTs to know and understand every crazy line-count method out there!
Depends on how you count lines
If you count the lines via Extext software, right away. If you use ichart it can take up to 1 hour, it says on the instructions. Depends how your company counts ExText software lines. Hope this helps.
Is it lines = character count/65 maybe?
me
Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm
if there seven words on a line.
or two
one
or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines. not the blank spaces between the lines.
Hope this helps.
Yes, but do you have an accurate way to count those lines? Has TT fixed
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You best not count those chickens (lines) before they hatch. You may end up editing
You may be backing up on saying you can do 2400 in an 8 hour day.
A steady diet of bad dictation I can bet won't afford you 2400 lines in an 8 hour day.
Think twice about Transcend. Overhire and not so great lines count
As far as the hospital job goes, that would be a better,stable choice. I know in our area the clerks obviously make less than the MTs, but it is way above minimum wage, not to mention you get shift/weekend/holiday differential. Find a company is this business that does that. NONE, at least that I have found. Best wishes on your job search.
You know, I never actually counted my lines myself, I just always figured my company's line count
Boy was I wrong! I just went through and totaled all of my lines, then compared them to the line counter, and guess what! It's wrong! Can you guess who I work for? SOFTSCRIPT!!! 
Puleeze! I heard that monthly for 2 years. I will believe it when I can count lines on it. nm
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Medware's IT dept. obviously doesn't work weekends.No lines count for 2 days. nm
not surprised
Is this a live count of lines paid for or same as CTRL I that we do not get paid for ?? nm
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A gross line is not based on characters. A gross line is
anything on the line constitutes a line, so if you only have 1 word on a line it is still counted as a line. A gross line at 8 cpl roughly translates to 10 cpl/65 character.
All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
In my Extext experience count was about 10% less than the Word count. nm
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It means to double check what THEY say your count it. Count
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Are you aware of how they count your time?.. or don't count it i should say
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1800 lines is easily achieved. I average 300-340 lines per hour. nm
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10 lines per minute = 1500 lines for 150 minutes - average. nm
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I average 1200-1400 lines per day with a national, and am only getting around 600-800 lines per day.
It's been this way since the day before Thanksgiving. I've been doing this for almost 30 years now, and more often than from Thanksgiving until the new year is the slowest time of the year. I have some months where I am swamped with up to 2000 lines per day. I stash that little extra money, and take advantage of a handful of extremely slow days this time of the year to actually cook dinner, decorate for Christmas, or do Christmas shopping. I actually anticipate this slow time every year and have grown to enjoy the breathing time. Any time I have attempted to pick up extra work with another company to supplement these slow times, the minute I get adjusted to the new accounts, etc. I have no time to finish all of my work because my full time job with national gets slammed again. Hang in there if you can, and hopefully your work will pick up significantly around New Years.
They work with you to make sure you get the lines required or the amount of lines you want...
I have never had a problem getting more work
Ew! How gross!!
A company sends you equipment and it's full of random hairs and is busted? That is just nasty!!
They used to pay 10-11 cpl....not gross
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Gross or net?
And yes that was a gross
exaggeration to make a point.
Minimum lines for FT used to be 60,000 keystrokes a day, about 925 lines. Pay was good. Just not a
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Yes it is possible to double your lines. I cant type 460 lines an hour but I can get those with VR
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gross line pay
If using Meditech, getting paid 8 cents/gross line is equivalent to what in getting paid per 65 cpl?  TIA
gross line pay
Sorry, that question doesn't make any sense. What I meant basically is this: Is 8 cents/gross line in Meditech's system good pay? I was typing in Fusion and getting 7 cents/gross line at one time and it equalled far less lines than 7 cpl at a 65 char. line. Does this make sense to anyone? Thanks.
You would have to gross over $400 a day M-F. How exactly do you manage this?
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It is sad is what it is....used to be that per GROSS line.
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They did not say if it was gross line
or 65 ch, but I think that they feel that because it is part time, that is all that is deserved. Part time or not, an acceptable pay should be required. I doubt they will get many applications, except maybe a newbie looking for experience and does not have to pay rent, etc.
Gross line pay is almost ALWAYS better
depending on the rate of gross pay. For instance, I just did a sample line count in MPTools. I compared one document and counted a gross line - anything with writing on it and a 65-char line (spaces included) and I compared the rates at .10/65char and .055/gross and for the SAME REPORT it showed: $96.06 for the 65-char line and for the gross Line it was $119.96. Still more money that way. And it adds up.
For the most part, from what I have seen, .10/65-char line is about what most companies TOP OUT at, so you are still better off with a gross line, at least from what I can see in the comparison.
Is that per gross line?....
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7 years ago - $45K/yr. Now, $28K gross, and after
Welcome to the land of the working poor.
Of course the gross line is more, but what is
the percentage of ESL, how easy is the platform, are there any benefits, can you be flexible with your schedule ....
I don't know anything about either company. I would search the boards and read everything you can find and make you a list of pros and cons.
GROSS LINE PAY
Are there any companies left that still pay the hard-working medical transcriber by the gross line?
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