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You are ignorant about feed lots.

Posted By: just me on 2007-01-31
In Reply to: wrong -- MOST don't end up this way. - NEMT

There are many large feed lots for horses that are fattened up and then sent to one of the 3 big slaughter houses in Texas to be sent off to Belgium, Japan, etc, in the form of steaks.  I have myself rescued riding horses from auction by outbidding the killer buyers.  There are bills pending that will outlaw this terrible thing, but the administration of Bush is against the bill and is supportive of the horse slaughter trade.  I have known individuals over the years, being a horse owner and lover, that would buy horses and then fatten them up and resell them to kill buyers or to the slaughter house themselves.  Many of these were horses that weren't fast enough on the track to make money, and also good riding horses, they were just worth more as meat.  Go to any horse auction and you will see good horses going for slaughter just because that is who is the highest bidder.  It is a heartbreaking experience.


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Larege amount of horses at packing plants/feed lots
coincidentally happen to be TBs.  They are a huge throw-away market.  Once they are done racing, unless they are one of the incredibly lucky few to be adopted out to knowledgable homes for other careers or are of breeding quality, they usually don't wind up in too good of a place afterwards.   I'm a nobody, and I've had 3 of these throw-aways land in my lap.  Yes, there are some responsible owners/breeders who ensure these animals are taken care of for the rest of their days, racing career or not, then there are an awful lot of others who see them as the cash crops they are and nothing more. 
I think once disgust happens, lots of therapy is needed to feel love again. Lots
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ignorant
I would definitely say something to him and his wife as well so that way she can know how ignorant he is as well. That is terrible to say that to a kid. They have to deal with enough growing up right now. They should have to deal with ignorant parents like that to!
Ugh how ignorant

This woman is so ignorant.  What if a woman takes the Nazarite Vow?  Hmmmm..  Well then she must shave her head at the end of the prescribed period.  I don't know or care about her buy MY mothers in heaven don't have long hair.  As for saying that MOST of the women in the world wear spiky heels?  Well she's just proving her ignorance there.  I would wager the majority of women in the world do NOT wear spiky high heels.  I certainly don't because I'd fall off!  And her remarks about makeup?  I don't wear 5 layers of makeup either. 


Oh and not to mention her comments about long hair are based in a verse in Bible from a letter from Paul to the Corinthians.  NOT the word of God but the opinion of Paul so :P


That's kind of ignorant
That just shows that he really doesn't care all that much about how you feel or what you want. He seems to think that it's all about him. I would be furious if my husband pulled that kind of stuff! Mine is very good about that sort of thing, and he always asks or suggests and doesn't just say "this is what we're doing." I would be especially annoyed if he was planning a vacation with someone that I didn't even know!
I'm ignorant too, but I asked my son (sm)
Now this may not be your answer, but he said that most cameras don't print directly to a printer. You would have to connect the camera to your computer and then to the printer. He said that if there is the capability to print directly from camera to printer, you would need a USB port.

I just bought my daughter and my son's GF Sony digital cameras, but they just download onto computer and don't print; otherwise I'd ask one of them.

Hope someone can help you out better than I. Might want to call Best Buy (or similar). They might be able to help you too.

Good luck and happy picure-taking! :-)
that's an ignorant thing to say
what about the german shepherds or the chow-chows that attack people? pitbulls get blamed because they get put in the hands of BAD OWNERS. because of their reputation, bad people like to own them cause they think they are tough, therefore not properly caring or treating their pitbulls right, and therefore leading to the injuries you speak of.

Guess what, my dogs are aggressive dogs, one of them is a freaking jack russell/border collie mix and the other is an american bulldog (bulldog family not pit) and a boxer! for god's sake!

dont ONLY blame the pitbulls. it's pathetic how people do that. Any attack on a human from a pitbull is terrible, but they are not the only ones that do it!
and at the risk of sounding ignorant

isn't it true when one gets a vaccine, they are actually receiving some of the disease itself?....remembering back to smallpox vaccinations.......so are they going to vaccinate the girls by giving them a tad of cancer?  Really, I hate sounding ignorant but.......


Personally I think the women of the USA, Texas right now especially, should BE SCREAMING THEIR HEADS OFF about this.............That Rick Perry dude - says he sees this vaccination no different than a polio vaccination.....HOW DARE THEY when they know not much about this new drug/vaccination.........remember all the new-ish drugs that have been recalled and lawsuits abound?  Vioxx, Bextra, Accutane, hmmmmm....tons more......


Texas article below:


http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2007/02/03/hscout601622.html


EXCUSE ME....ignorant minority???
May I remind you that Roe V Wade was the product of a handful of activist judges?? ANYwhere wholesale abortion has been on a ticket for all of US out here to vote on, it was defeated. They tried first to make it a "state" issue, and it was voted down. So activist judges overturned the will of the people and now we have abortion on demand. So PLEASE do not insinuate that the majority of people would vote FOR abortion, because you are VERY MUCH mistaken.
YES. Ignorant , 'way-too-vocal minority.
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I was taught to "always ignore the ignorant."

Unfortunately, I've run into people like that before, and I just ignore the comment, make nice chit-chat for a few minutes and "see you later alligator."   At least, I demonstrated what my values are and did not degrade myself to their level.  The main word here is "ignorant."  There are so many people out there that are ignorant of their own manners, ignorant of other people's feelings, just tactless mules.


how ignorant to compare lice with neglect.
It's merely a case of misinformation or improper education to her family on how to treat the problem, in no way is lice infestation and lack of getting rid of them completely a sign of neglect.

Maybe this mom just plain doesn't understand how to get rid of them completely or perhaps there are other things going on in her life that this isn't getting dealt with properly. They need support not ridicule as some of the posters have said - obviously since you've been there you should know it isn't as easy as people think to get rid of them.
glad to hear this; t.v. hosts/reporters are ignorant; I would have told her so, on natl t.v.
nm
Lots and lots of SKATING ! - sm
Mostly inline street skating, up & down hills, too. Some roller skating and roller-disco. I was doing ice-skating, but can't afford it anymore, plus I prefer to skate outdoors. It works all muscles, is low-impact, fairly quick to learn compared to other sports, like skiing, is a cheap sport, and excellent for keeping balance & reflexes sharp. Most of the people I skate with look & act 10-20 years younger than their chronological ages.

I MAKE the time to skate. I eat my lunch at my desk, but take a break in the late afternoon before it gets dark, to exercise. This can also include a walk or jog around the neighborhood, bike ride into town to go to the market (cheaper than driving), a fast inline skate around town, or dance practice on a local tennis court. Then I work into the evening for as long as it takes to finish up.
I feed the 6 of us
with about 120/wk. We eat ham & beans, pasta, eggs for dinner, and different casseroles. I always make my dinner list for the week, and plan my shopping from there. It helps me to stay on budget, and not impulse shop. I stay stocked up on personal items (like tp, deodorant, shampoo, etc) by catching them on sale or getting one item each week. I don't let the kids snack alot because that adds up.


You might feed the cat up on the counter.
That's what my sister does. Otherwise you could use a baby gate. I used to lean a baby gate in a doorway. The angle left an opening for the cat, but the dogs were afraid of tipping the baby gate.

You are buying great food though.
Hummingbird feed
God bless you guys with a green thumb. I CAN grow plants but just don't have the time to get out there and do it. No excuse either, I have no children. Guess I'm just not garden oriented. MIL lived here before so she planted beautiful flowers that are still flourishing, but I end up making my own mix for the hummingbirds. Ours will not touch the red store bought feed.

We use red feeders with the yellow flowers, preferrably with a roosting or resting stem. Ours like to sit a while, while some flutter around. I mix 1 cup sugar with 3 cups water. You can bring this to boil and let cool or you can heat 1 cup in microwave, add sugar and stir to melt and then add 2 cups of icewater (including the cubes). Always 3:1 though. If I alter this they won't eat. I make sure to wash and change feed every 3 days, if it happens to last that long. Mine feed mainly in the early morning and late evening but they will eat throughout the day. They are all over this stuff. The other day one stopped about a foot in front of my husbands face just looking like...where are you going with that? There will be up to 15 at a time fluttering around we have definitely seen more. These are some friendly little birds we have. You can hold the feeders out at arms length and they will come and eat. We have actually filled our mouth with the sugar water before and held a plastic flower and they will come and feed.
they should force feed the
troll....If you or I, we would spend more than 3 days there.
I usually try the feed store first,
they used to carry something called yellow marlin, but I warn you, it is highly poisonous, a consideration if you have young ones about or curious animals inside. They carry a small jug like contraption you put water in to draw wasps and they can't get out, but I don't know about fruit flies or gnats. Good luck.
Help feed the kitties too! sm

http://www.freekibblekat.com/


 



feed the birds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Eye_Is_on_the_Sparrow
I feed birds on the lake
quite often and really enjoyed doing it. I have seen others do as well and I do not see them becoming aggressive as a result of this. I also see the geeze and ducks feeding on their own when not being fed by humans. I have deer in my neighborhood and as much as I would love to feed, know this is not a good idea and should not so I don’t. I think that other mother is a total jerk for her reaction, though.
I do feed the squirrels a mix with peanuts
and seeds and sprinkle it on the ground. Unfortunately they bury the peanuts instead of eating them. I've had as many as 20 squirrels in my yard before when I spread food out on the ground for them. They're pigs and it's quite ridiculous, but yes, I do put food on the ground and in a plastic bowl in an attempt to get them to stay on the ground. They have broken 2 nice feeders already, and for those reasons, many people like to keep them off the feeders.
What kind of food to you feed him?
Is it a high quality food? Sometimes supplements such as Missing Link or Nupro can help control skin odor.

How often do you give him a bath, and what kind of shampoo do you use. And do you rinse and rinse and rinse?

He could have a skin infection which might require oral antibiotics.

What kind of dog is he and what's his age?

I, too, would make a vet appointment to be on the safe side.
Feed DD supper before DH comes home so you can
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I feel the same - I feed the squirrels too
they are fun to watch. Clever little devils. I have a peanut feeder with a lid on and they lift the lid up and take out the peanuts. I have a pair of crows that come to eat too. I have my own little wildlife sanctuary. Now my neighbors probably aren't too happy, they're not animal people. The guy across the street puts out those poison peanuts - so mean.
I do believe it's illegal to feed the deer in PA

because of the harm it causes (see other postings). Your neighbor might get in some serious trouble for doing this. My father and uncles were deer hunters and every year would put salt licks out for them, but about 30 years ago, they stopped. I really don't know the reason, but I would seriously do some checking on this.


You could tell your neighbor that she's making it easier on the hunters as they will start trusting humans and think that they (hunters) are coming to feed them. If that doesn't get her to stop, then show some printed material on the laws. DH isn't hunting this year or I would look it up in the manual he used to get.


 


Yes, indeed, it is illegal to feed deer in PA.
It's never a good idea to feed them, anywhere. I was just reading an article about this. When deer are fed, they tend to concentrate where the food is being left for them. The local population of deer increases, the food left out for them is not enough to support all of the deer, and so many of them starve. It's actually counter-productive. Deer adapt to the winter weather. They spread out in their environment. Their metabolism slows. They move less and eat less. Some die over the winter, of course. It is nature, after all. But feeding them is not good for them. Your animal loving neighbor is actually hurting the deer.
I'll feed your animals before I'd even
offer her a Kleenex to wipe a kid's nose!
Why should she offer to feed the twit? - sm
he was violating a restraining order, I certainly would not make him feel at home. She did the right thing calling the cops. He mouthed off because he was mad at her and wanted to cause trouble.

As for CPS, clean the house, why you still have his lousy magazines there is beyond me if kicked him out. Get rid of all the clutter for sure. Obviously be straightforward with the inspector. I highly doubt from your story that you are in imminent danger of losing your kids. Just be truthful and explain the whole situation, CPS has seen it all and can quickly figure out who the good and bad parents are.
You don't offer to feed someone you have a restraining
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I don't feed sea gulls. It's generally a bad idea.
It's not a good idea to interfere with the feeding habits of any wild animal, and they are wild. They may be very accustomed to having human food, but it's still not right to feed them. The birds do become accustomed to humans as their source of food, and that will encourage them to fly too close to humans. Then, they'll become a nuisance. Do check for signs or other information in the area about feeding the wildlife. I know that in my area, more and more signs are being posted.
That being said, it's also not right for someone to use such language, especially in front of children, or for anyone to throw sand at you. So, I think the other woman's reaction was out of line.
Next time you go to the beach, bring sand toys and leave the bird food at home.
wrong - God gave you breasts to feed your babies

I believe God gave women breasts to feed their young and did NOT give us breasts for *sexual pleasure* regardless that we get sexual pleasure from them.


The reality is that God gave women breasts to breast-feed........not just for poor people in 3rd world countries.  I breastfed mine until they were 6 months old..........it's an individual thing but I went by the teeth thingy - once teeth are in, time to start weaning.


 


Paper feed problems here, too. I thought it was just mine,,,,
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Feed in separate rooms, leave in with food for 1/2hr.
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Help feed hungry dogs! I saw this young girl SM

last weekend on the Today Show.  SInce she was tiny she has loved animals.  Just click and answer the question and each time someone visits this site a donation of 20 pieces of Kibble is made.  Doesn't matter if your answer to the question is correct or not.  I do it every day. They allow one hit a day per person. Just takes a few seconds and does so much. 


http://www.freekibble.com


 


 


go to the site, click the purple tab to help feed animals.
nm
freerice.com tests your vocabulary and helps feed the hungry sm
if you are a mom there is cafemom.com with a huge variety, if you are diet-conscious there is threefatchicks.com. You can advertise on craigslist for a platonic e-pal or chat buddy.
Get weaning food at PetStore, use a syringe, feed the formula, cooked veggies SM
I looked on Google and got totally carried away reading about the lovebirds. One thing, if your birds are hand-fed they will be much better pets, will allow you to handle them when they are grown. If you have no dogs or cats, you might even let them have a birdie playground on top of the cage, but that's for somebody who has really worked with the little guys since Day One of life. Have Fun!
Wise.MT
By trial and error. Lots and LOTS of error!!! -nm
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The same with lots of ice....
Cranberry juice and vodka over lots of ice is always my drink of choice...CHEERS!!!
Me, too. I need lots of help.

I've got 1 room that turned into a storage room and every week I tell myself I have to get in there and straighten it out. I open the door, look around and close the door, and find something else to do.


I don't have any closets in my house and it drives me nuts. No place to hang coats, etc. when coming in from outside. They get slung over the chair that nobody sits in by the door.


We have 2 sheds and a 1 car 'tent' garage. Hubby keeps half his stuff in the tent garage and shed, I keep some of my stuff in the shed and mom's stuff is in the other shed. The first shed was built when we were moving from the old house, needed some place to go with it until we got in the new place, but it's still there!!!! I can't get to it because of hubby's snow blower and other quipment. I probably have some antiques in there by now.


Mom died 7 years ago and I still haven't looked to see what's in her shed. I just don't have time.


I love to be organized, but when I organized my home the last time, I couldn't find anything!!!



This is nothing new. Lots cannot get
an apartment because of bad credit, same for jobs as has been discussed before on this board. If you cannot handle credit, people think you cannot handle a job. You might have to go back a few years to see who the bozo person is because just did not happen lately.
I have lots more to worry about as well - sm
I have a 6-y/o daughter that is only 1 year out from her chemo for kidney cancer and has been having some worrying symptoms lately, I have bills, I have lots of home strife to deal with , I have a DH who acts younger than my kids half of the time and cannot deal with any major problems and has undiagnosed depression and possibly bi-polar. I carry a heavy load here so you are not the only one in this world with problems. OH, I am in the USA too, so what does that have to do with anything? The coat just angered me beyond belief, maybe it is the straw that broke my back, my way of venting, who knows, but it something I can at least try to take some action on and maybe get it back. I cannot control my daughter's cancer recovery, all I can do is watch and wait and see if we make it to 5 years recovery without any recurrence, for the bills I am trying to work harder and make more money, for my DH I just deal with him the best I can and do pretty well but not all the time. So I have trival things and big things to worry about and deal with, along with millions of others. Sorry if my kid's coat loss/theft was such a mundane topic to post about but I am/was T'eed off about it and needed to vent and get opinions if I could on this. Yours is duly noted.
Lots of recipes at
foodtv.com  Everything you ever wanted.
lots of days like that!
if I can I make a quick run to the coffee shop for a latte or take a 5 minute walk.  its amazing what a lift a cappuccino or a latte will bring to my day.
Lots of questions

1. How old is the first house? The one with the sewing room and the carpet coming up?


2. How many sq ft is the second house - the newer one?


3. Have the rest of the houses in your neighborhood appreciated 66% in the last five years?  (from $75,000 to $125,000)


Your husband has a good idea about putting the money in savings for six months to make sure you can afford to pay a mortgage that is twice what you are paying now. And after six months, you will have $1800 more to put down on the house.


This is strictly personal experience - but last summer we moved from a 25-year-old house to a brand new one. We lived in the 25yo house for 12 years, and the money we spent remodeling and updating (+ original price) it would have bought us a brand new house of the same size. So I would say go for the newer house if it comes to a choice. Older houses can be a LOT of work.


OTOH, you say your husband likes woodworking. If you're willing to live in a house that is in a perpetual state of remodeling...go for it!


Transcribed lots of them, never had one sm
They usually use lidocaine, but it still sounds pretty painful. However, if your mom's doctor thinks she needs one, then I would strongly encourage her to have it done. She could take Tylenol or ibuprofen before the procedure, and if she has Xanax or Valium, she could take one (or her doctor could prescribe one for her). There are several diagnostic imaging tests that they encourage patients to take pain relievers and/or tranquilizers ahead of time. It can really help.
I got LOTs of it, in different places! Only the
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Don't be, there are lots of others who have it far worse- sm
than those of us here with husbands that basically are just spoiled brats who want it all their own way and don't want to have to do anything other than go to work (and most don't even want to do that) come home, eat, and put up their feet and watch TV. Mom is supposed to do it all, cook, clean, deal with the kids on every level, be ready to go when hubby wants sex and work herself, all with a big smile on her face. At least that is what my husband expects, though he does do the cooking though lately he has really cut back and I have had to pick up the slack or no one eats. He cooks for himself and I do the kids and I. I do everything else even cut the grass sometimes as he is "too tired". He has been whining about retiring for years now, he is only 48 but thinks he should be able to quit and I pay all the bills, don't think so as I make only about 20% of what he does. He says when the house is paid off he is quiting. I have told him no that is not an option until the kids are out of college (another 16 years), he is not too happy about that. Once he hits 55 I know it will really become a battle (or when his parents die as he is expecting at least 1M from them), but I will probably quit MT then and go out and get a job especially if he is homw all day then. My only consolation if I do stick it out is I will be a rich widow and he will probably develop cirrhosis in the next few years as he has been drinking 8-12 light beers a day for about 25 years at least, and he does not eat much as well; and hates doctors so by the time he gets any serious illness it will be too late most likely. A friend of mine in the healthcare field is convinced it will happen, just a question of when. Who knows, don't really much care. I keep my kids happy and they do love their daddy and he loves them to pieces too, but he is just a bit too unrealistic in his expectations of them, me and life in general. If push comes to shove I will probably demand he leave, he hates the house and has said on more than one occasion if he goes I can have the house (how generous of him), though I'd demand it be paid off first, so he'd have to raid the 401K for $50K but he would not owe me a penny; and on the side of stupidity I'd probably get a equity line and pay off all the cc debt we have just to shut him up and have less stress about that. That payment is a lot less than a mortgage and it would be worth it in my mind to do. We'd both be paying off debt and he could not whine that I stuck him with that too. Child support will make him whine enough as it is. He'd walk away with a truck, trailer, boat, big screen TV, his collectables/antiques (a lot of stuff), my mom's china (I don't like it and she wanted him to have it when she died and he loves it), a few tables, half the dishes and a 5 acre lot about 12 miles away on which he could build a house. Yes, I have thought this out quite a bit. Anyone in a bad situation, don't bury your head in the sand, think about your options and have a game plan if necessary. Good luck to us all!
LOTS of ideas
Probably way more than you need - but better too much than too little, right? (link below)