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no kids, no deer - will that stuff keep other animals off?

Posted By: mdlfcrs on 2007-05-25
In Reply to: do you have any loose neighbor kids running around? - brandy

Home Depot is just around the corner - I have a 6 foot stockade fence and live in the city - I am sure there are no deer - possibly possoms, no deer.


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they have really nice stuff in support of neglected animals.
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Kids, animals and ghosts (sm)

When we first moved into our home, our then 2 year-old dog had a habit of chasing us and playfully biting our heels, shifting from heel to heel.  One day he did that when there was no one there, chasing his invisible friend all the way to the wall.  I used to feel the presence of someone here all the time. In the middle of the night, every night, for years, I would suddenly feel something hit the mattress at the foot of the bed, like someone would walk by and just pat the mattress hard or jump on it (though they couldn't have been very heavy). My son when he became able to talk asked me, "who is that white guy who comes in here at night?"  This house was built in 1959, the man who built it died in the yard next door, building his daughter's house.  His wife lived here for many years after that and passed away in the hospital about a year before we moved in. 


I never felt there was any malicious spirit here but it still disturbed me some.  One day I walked around he entire house, step by step, carrying a Bible saying, "this house belongs to God in Jesus' name."  I also felt the presence of something in the hall and I told it to leave this house, felt it stayed, and said in a very firm voice, "NOW!"  I never felt anything hit the bed again, haven't felt any more odd presences, and my children have never said anything else nor are they afraid at night. They sleep with me sometimes when my husband is out of town, just because they want to, but not because they are scared.  I spent my whole childhood being afraid of ghosts....glad they don't have to feel that way.


 


...still battling with our kids over stuff like this and they're much
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I am not a teacher but I call kids that kind of stuff all the time (sm)
I call my kids little names, their friends whatever name pops into my mind at the time, my Brownie girl scouts names. Sweetie, honey, sweetie-sweet, squirrel, pumpkin-lumpkin, sweet potato, little sweeties, etc. To me it just signals that I am the adult and they are the kids and I like them, they are important to me. I think it makes them feel at home and comfortable. My children used to think kids were called "little sweeties" when they were younger. My daughter or son would say, "is that her little sweetie?" meaning is that her little boy or little girl. My son had a horrible 2nd grade teacher who yelled at the kids all day. My daughter had a wonderful second grade teacher who hugged them and called them endearing names. Why is it wrong to treat a child like a child? They are sweet and innocent and we are adults, parents and parent-like figures to them. I don't get it.
My college-age kids love finding stuff at the Goodwill Thrift Store. Go figure! They like their
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We have deer here also but
I hope never to see a bear out in the open here. I know no matter how cute, they are still wild. Just on the news yesterday morning a guy who had permit to raise deer killed by 1 of them while feeding as male in rut and he and his family knew aggressive. He had all kind of wildlife on property including beer. Like your own animals, they can and will turn sometimes.
Is it an albino deer?
If so they don't usually live long.  Eyesight in all albinos bad.  Also, easier for predators to spot.
albino deer
Native Americans think they're sacred.  I can't remember the legend but I think it's amazingly good luck to you.
Deer for pets

I am having a similar problem with my neighbor.  Her yard adjoins our yard and she puts out food for the deer right on the property line.  I don't mind the deer as they are pretty to watch, but it has gone from 2-3 deer from 5 years ago to nearly 10 deer constantly including bucks.  They walk from the woods through our yard to go to her yard to eat.  It has gotten to the point where the deer are roaming about all hours of the day, not just at dusk.  I, too, see them roaming the neighborhood.  One has come up on my front porch before.  I have small children as do my other neighbors and I am concerned that they are going to startle the deer and someone might get bitten.  I tell my kids to not to ever approach the deer and give them their distance.  I am also concerned about deer ticks too.  


I asked her if she would not feed the deer on the property line as it is causing a potentially unsafe situation and she got very huffy about it and said she was an animal lover and it was her right to feed the deer if she so desired.  I tried to explain to her about the kids, not only mine but other kids, and the dangers of wild animals being in the yard and roaming around and she basically told me to "mind my own business."


I don't know in Pennsylvania what the laws are about having deer for pets or feeding them, etc, but I have heard in other states it is illegal. 


I'm a deer widow this weekend SO
I'm cleaning out the closets and going through my husband's drawers. I swear he has underwear that I don't know what in the world they could cover since they are so tattered!

I'd like to clean my desk and under my bed as well but that may have to wait until he's gone again next weekend.
Is it legal to keep a wild deer as a pet? sm
Someone has had a wild pet deer for a pet in our subdivision for a few years now.  I am a serious animal lover myself, but it has gotten rather old having this deer roaming through the roads and, most of all, eating landscape plants down to nothing.  We have sprayed deer repellent on nearly everything, but the one little area we miss will be chewed right away.  Besides, we have to keep doing it over and over and this stuff is not cheap.  Really getting tiresome.  Do not want to be mean, but what rights do the homeowners in here have??
I do believe it's illegal to feed the deer in PA

because of the harm it causes (see other postings). Your neighbor might get in some serious trouble for doing this. My father and uncles were deer hunters and every year would put salt licks out for them, but about 30 years ago, they stopped. I really don't know the reason, but I would seriously do some checking on this.


You could tell your neighbor that she's making it easier on the hunters as they will start trusting humans and think that they (hunters) are coming to feed them. If that doesn't get her to stop, then show some printed material on the laws. DH isn't hunting this year or I would look it up in the manual he used to get.


 


Yes, indeed, it is illegal to feed deer in PA.
It's never a good idea to feed them, anywhere. I was just reading an article about this. When deer are fed, they tend to concentrate where the food is being left for them. The local population of deer increases, the food left out for them is not enough to support all of the deer, and so many of them starve. It's actually counter-productive. Deer adapt to the winter weather. They spread out in their environment. Their metabolism slows. They move less and eat less. Some die over the winter, of course. It is nature, after all. But feeding them is not good for them. Your animal loving neighbor is actually hurting the deer.
Think you need a permit to actually keep deer as pets...sm
but I couldn't find anything on the Game Commission website about it being illegal to feed them. They do strongly discourage it, though, for a lot of what you posted.
If you have not yet seen the deer and cat video treat yourself to

something wonderful.  Copy and paste and enjoy.  This is truly beautiful.  


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rooyt3ptNco


chittlins and mauls....deer jerky...sm
Anyone else out there cooking specialty items for the holiday?    Cat
There were a lot of albino deer in Shenandoah Natl Park.
I don't know if they are still a "problem". A while back, hunters were asked to specifically look for and thin them from the herds -- something to do with weakening the gene pool. I don't know anything about wildlife management, but I know that I've seen a good number of albino deer in SNP. It is exciting to see them!
Deer and rabbits especially think my garden is an outdoor diner. (sm)
Have tried multiple things, can keep rabbits out of green beans, peas and lettuce until they get larger and not so palatable by using chicken wire bent over the rows and pegged down. The deer seem to prefer to just rip smaller branches off the fruit trees and really seem to hit the melons hard.

One of the things that I have tried and works pretty well for me is Irish Spring tied in the branches of fruit trees. I suppose it is the smell they don't like.

Anything else you come up with, please share.

The produce in the store isn't going to do anything but get higher with strikes, etc.
Oh, my dog is Michael Jordan. I swear she's part deer!

We just moved to the country, but when we lived in town, she jumped the fence I don't know how many times.  When she wants in the house, it's not enough to simply scratch on the door, she has to jump six feet in the air and basically throw herself into the door. 


I just get so frustrated.  I was at friends house who has a golden retriever and they have a little bell hanging from their back doorknob and when their dog wants out, he simple rings the bell and same thing on the outside of the door too.  I was incredulous.  How did they get their dog to do that?!?!?! 


I forgot: ecargots, rabbit-, deer- shark-meat.s are no,no for me, too..nm
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groundhogs,squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, raccoon, goat and deer meat..sm

Some folks just take for granted that they can walk into a market and shop for meat...We've done the same for similar reasons as you and nothing was wasted.   At least you're self sufficient!!!  And, I bet you've put up/canned/frozen all the vegetables from the summer/fall harvest.   


Didn't mean to be flippant in my earlier post...whack it, hack it, pack it and stack it...  Cat 


  


 


It didn't work out due to combining of kids and step kids. nm
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Just a tip about animals
As I am getting cleaned up from Christmas and heading towards the New Year, thought I would pass on something that I do and if you don't know about it and can do the same, here tis: I get the newspapers each day (along with lots of subscriptions to different magazines), save them up and when I get a big bunch I take them to my local animal shelter. They cut them up and use for bedding for the animals. Pass it on.....
Well at least they like animals...
I'd take them for neighbors over someone who *shoots at* animals, any day!
Animals
Dogs and cats are good! That will be a fun job and animals are so loving and grateful for anything we do. Good choice too since you get free vet care you can get another dog! Or two. You can never have enough dogs. I only have three. I need a bigger house so I can have more dogs! They are our "babies" and are spoiled. I would hate to transcribe without my dogs who sit next to me and "wait" - what have I ever done to deserve this? I just accept it and feel loved.
animals
If she could have someone else feed them honestly it would save her a bunch. The minimum I have seen places charge and I have moved around alot was 16 a night per animal. Sometimes if you can put 2 in the same cage they give you a small discount on one animal per cage.
what we will do for our animals. .
One year my cat just kept jumping up into the middle of the tree. . we came home from work several times with the tree in the floor. . we eventually anchored the tree to the floor AND ceiling. . . as he got older he got calmer. . I'm sad to say last Christmas was his last - he died in January at age 17. . . He was a good friend. .
Yup, just like animals, neither can they. LOL
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animals

I would do the samething, have two dogs that I love dearly which one is blind and has lived in the same house since she was a puppy, and still runs into the walls and things. It is so sad to see, so I would never do anything to make it any harder on her.    Bless you for being so caring.    


raw animals
The wild animal the dog kills wasn't raised on a factory farm under conditions favorable for salmonella epidemics, and wasn't force-fed antibiotics to cover the many diseases hens get when they live in such tight quarters.

Then again, the raw chicken is actual chicken, rather than "animal digest" or the other euphemisms the pet food industry uses to cover the miserable quality of their food (even the premium brands are just awful).


And just look at how animals
almost always hook up with another animal friend ... even natural enemies.

I guess if you are very social, you can get enough from other people and activities. I get drained too easily and so would rather have my mate than be alone.

how do you know that? Unfortunately animals
cannot tell us how they feel, not before and not after.
Poor animals!
A ''crate'' is just a nice term for a cage. How sad to cage a dog or cat.
You can only try. That is what we did with my son. His stuffed animals SM

were his worst nightmare allergy-wise. 


I've had dogs with dry skin, but never were they were that miserable.  I wonder if they make a doggie lotion that could help or if there is some type of herbal remedy like who knows what but some type of oil safe for doggie skin.


I have two black labs now and one puppy Yorkie.  My older black labs gets some dry skin on his belly, but nothing too bad.


Don't give up.  You'll find it!


All animals, pets or not are most definitely
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Thanks for that one. Animals rule!
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What is it with old stinky animals!
My old dog and old horse really do "smell like old people."  They have a funk of their own when compared to the younger animals of same species, even though they are all completely healthy.  I think it's just what happens, the why's and how's though, I am completely clueless about.  I really have an especially soft spot for the ol' senior critters though. 

Animals in heaven? NM
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social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!

Have fun!
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .

I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
for my animals -- YES absolutely!
i don't think its a bit crazy to CARE for your animals, and take care of them. Bless your heart!
fostering animals
Does anyone foster animals? I've been thinking of fostering a dog or cat and wonder what exactly is involved.
There are those that believe animals have souls-
I doubt they would find it ridiculous, though I do agree that this whole thread is ridiculous. The OP wanted to start a fire and she got it.
Animals very much desirable,
in your own homes, not running loose in the neighborhood. I have inside pets, they live longer inside anyway.
Like I said, I love most animals and have more than...
my fair share of them including a horse that is losing her teeth and anyone else would put down because it is very expensive to keep her around and very cheap to replace her at this point, but I just can't do it, as she is very healthy. I am just not such a cat person and I really hope that my husband does not bring on home, but if he did, I would expect it to stay outside. Terrible, I know, but that is just the way I am.
Antidepressants help some animals, too.

I do appreciate life and have respect for animals.
I just don't think they should be shoved in my face.

I agree - there are many children in stores who should be taken outside to be handled. However, people are NOT animals.

Unfortunately, most doglovers cannot appreciate this difference.
So even animals help decide our fate???
Where did you read this or learn about this? I've never heard that animals will speak for or against us on judgement day...interesting.  Guess I'm in the clear, I don't do animals, don't own them, don't abuse them, don't like 'em!
You don’t have to love animals, that is not the point
although I find them much more rewarding that most people I know, you have to be really sick to hurt one.
I like how you called your animals *somebody*...that is cute
If *somebody* gets sick on the weekend....

Animals ARE people too!

You sound like a good mother :)
They think like pack animals, not humans. They are
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