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second-hand smoke

Posted By: cat on 2007-09-13
In Reply to: I am invited to a Birthday party for a friend of mine, whom - Need some help on this one

With any luck the weather will be good and the party will be held outdoors....If not, take her out to  lunch or make a special lunch/dinner at your house just for the 2 of you....perhaps get your hair and nails done together or just piddle around in the consignment shops...do something that the 2 of you enjoy.  If you've known her since Jr. High or thereabouts, she knows how you feel about smoking and I don't think she would be offended.  The 1-on-1 time together would proabably the best present she gets....and you get to catch up everything without interruption.


I know, I did it yesterday...Made chicken and dumplings from scratch and sauteed squash and a light fruit salad, watched a video slide show that my friend made on a Mac laptop of renovation of the log cabin that her mother was born in (narration, music and all).....Her daugter's wedding is coming up in 3 weeks and the young lady wants it to be at the cabin.  Then we tried on mother-of-the-bride outfits she'd brought over, we critiqued, exchanged jewelry that would match.  We talked for about 3 hours non-stop and coulda gone on for another coupla days just reminiscing and trying to work out the kinks of the wedding and chowin' down on comfort food.


Just an idea....Hope this helps. 


               




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I work for a doc that often prescribes it and it seems to work for everyone that has tried it. Some seem to stop taking it too soon and go back to smoking, but he has had at least a 90% success rate with his patients. Good Luck!
If it were me, and I am exactly like you are regarding smoke -
I would show up when I believe the cake and singing might be happening with a big smile on my face and well wishes. Stay for a short time, as long as you can stand it. I do not think you should miss her special day. I feel for you with being exposed to smoke and can feel my eyes burning and hair stinking just thinking of it. However, your friend would want you there, at least for a short time. Good luck! :-)
You have no idea how everyone around you who does not smoke SM
will appreciate what you are doing. Pretty soon you will be intolerant of it, too. You rock!  You can do this. It is the best decision you will make for your health and others!!!!    (CLAPPPING FOR YOU)
In all fairness now - do ya smoke?

I can't figure out why you posted that you are thin and have always been thin.  How is that supportive a person who would like to lose weight?  I'm guess I am missing something.


Where there is smoke, there is fire...

Someone said consider the source.  So let's consider the source...


You don't know her and she doesn't know you.  Why would she seek you out to lie to you?


Apparently your husband does know her and was going to warn you beforehand that she might try to stir up trouble.  Why would she pick your marriage to stir up trouble in?  What bone of contention does she have with your husband?  What is his relationship with her? 


And if there is nothing to what she says as your husband suggests and that she is just trying to "stir up trouble" then why did he feel he needed to warn you? 


Sounds to me like he's covering his bases.  Personally, I think you husband has a lot of explaining to do and this advice of "keep quiet and take notes" is bunk.  Don't be the victim.  Listen to what your gut is telling you.  Something smells in your situation and I bet it's coming from hubbie.


Trust me when I say, men can look their wives in the eye and lie without batting an eye and when caught in a lie, they will practically hurt themselves trying to rationalize and justify.  Whatever is going on with your husband, you cannot deny that there are rumors out there that your husband feels he needs to squelch.  That's troublesome by itself.  Why would someone make up rumors about him?


Don't excuse him, don't treat him with kid gloves.  Confront him and find the truth.  You'll know it when you hear it.


My husband and I both smoke!

This January we have decided will be it.  It is no longer socially acceptable.  My excuse has always been that I am afraid to gain a lot of weight. 


My brother quit after 15 years (early 30s) and he used Chantix.  He was a 3-pack a day smoker.  Let me tell you, he is so much better.  No coughing.  After 6 years of trying to have a baby and failing in vitro; they have just had a baby this November.  They both smoked/him worse.  They are now both nonsmokers for over a year, have gained weight, but have such a blessing.  He swears it was the smoking that caused the infertility.  This pregnancy was the natural way and she's beautiful/such a blessing for them.  We are all elated. 


I am especially proud of him and feel like such a wimp to continue to smoke knowing it is killing me.  It makes me feel inferior to others.  Thank God my brother is an encouraging soul and not one of those horrible ex-smokers who just won't let up or are worse than just plain nonsmokers.


To the OP:  These poster above is absolutely correct.  My brother will vouge that everything in life is better now that he is a nonsmoker (i'm assuming including the sex since they now have the baby).  He says the Chantix worked and he is by no means a pill-taker at all. 


To the OP again:  If you'd like to quit when I do in January, e-mail me, and we can support one another.  You are worth it!  You can still smoke the first week on Chantix, but then the cravings will disappear.  Believe me, I also enjoy the cigarette especially after eating but smoke a lot more when I'm stressed to the point that I wheeze.  I'm only 38 and have 2 kids.  I hate the habit, but I love the cigarettes.  See what I mean?  It's a hard habit to break, but I think together we can do it!  Whaddya say?  E-mail me! 


To the Poster Above:  Thank you for your kind comments as you've also just made me decide that quitting is the best and only option at this point.


I had an aunt that died of ovarian cancer and never smoked or drank a day in her life.  She was thin, always health conscious.  Not all cancers including lung come from smoking.  Keep that in mind as you strive to quit. 


Your choice is to walk through the smoke.

People are made to smoke outside the store, can't smoke inside.  Smoking is not against the law.  I think people with body odor/bad breath smell way worse than people smoking. 


don't have a *choice* to walk through smoke--sm
if you want to get out of or into the store. If someone HAS to smoke...go to your own car where it does not infringe upon someone else's right to not have to breathe it in and contract lung cancer. Body odor and bad breath do not inflict death and are easily taken care of with personal hygiene. Second hand smoke is just plain inconsiderate of others' health, but then why would you care about that. right?
Juliet said that she knew about the smoke
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all LV hotels that have casino have the smoke

even in Florida - the casinos you can smoke at - at least in certain areas like the bingo.........not the dealer tables at the Seminoles but at every other casino locally in S. Florida, there is smoking allowed.....Hard Rock Resort and Casino - smoking allowed.


In Las Vegas, if there are casinos in the hotel - you will be dealing with smoke.


However, there are plenty of smokeless, casino-less places......enjoy!


Is there a way to remove cigarette smoke - sm

from something without washing it?  I have a baby blanket my mom crocheted that is for a friend of mine who's expecting.  Like everything in my mom's house, it has a bit of a cigarette smell, and I don't think a new mother would want to use a blanket that smells of cigarettes for a new baby!  So far I've just hung it up on a hanger in the hallway at my place.  (I don't smoke.)  Any ideas?  I thought about something like "Febreze", but that might not be good for a new baby to breathe, either.........


 


My mom used to smoke the "roll your owns"
If you buy your tobacco product in a can or bag you can put it in the freezer for a time and it will still be good - if you haven't opened it yet.

My DH puts his carton in the door of the freezer by the way because of the same reason.

I heard about the prices going up, but nothing has really been said about it here where I am. There are many smokers here in my part of the country. In fact, they only just passed the ban on not smoking in restaurants about a year ago here in town and are just now considering it for state wide.
machine to remove cigarette smoke?
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followup on machine to remove cig smoke

First, thanks again to those who tried to be helpful/supportive.  Secondly, i may (!)have made a breakthrough this morning, Praise God!!  Sparing the details, after another fit of mine over trying to eat in a 'cloud', i put it to him this way:  Saying, "i've been looking into air cleaners to remove the smoke smell from the house, and they will cost from $700 to $1000.  So which is it going to be -- will you quit smoking, smoke outside the house or do we invest in these expensive air cleaners?  I just can't tolerate it like i used to."


I let him ponder awhile and asked again for the answer.  I about fell off my feet when he said he'd try harder to quit smoking and that he might start smoking outside the house, and might even consider a prescription to help...Good Golly Miss Molly!! 


Wonders truly never cease!! 


I used to smoke and NEVER smoked inside the house. nm
No message.
Smoke 'sickers' through the AC, the cracks, up the pipes...
she can smell it in her apartment! It affects her also, second-hand smoke and it 'stinks!'

But:

This LL does not have a no-smoking policy.
Did you move in knowing this?
Then you cannot do anything.
You accepted the apartment 'as is.'

You can only hope that the smoking lady moves out or you move out.



Learned to smoke, drink, cut classes
Graduated in the 70s. Took dancing lessons and big big big into disco. Almost entered in the show Disco Fever. I was a little overweight, certainly not popular in the "cliques". Had friends from grammar school, scouts & 4H I hung around with (those are still my friends today). I was shy and stuttered when having to speak in front of groups (still do). I wasn't a "studier" - received mostly Cs (failed science, gym & history - or barely passed). No boyfriends. Pretty boring overall, but I'd trade everything in now and do it all again.
Anyone know how to get cigarette smoke smell out of books? I bought several
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looks brand new and smells like my own home now. It was really bad with smoke. Same with books. It just takes time. It will eventually go away. Unfortunately, nothing I know works for that without ruining the books.
Yes this is getting out of hand....
it is getting out of hand by some of the posters who are disagreeing with others. I am the OP and I was only looking for opinion's from others. No fights, no trash talking...just honest opinions. I have received lots of comments and I have thanked everyone for their comments. Each and every comment gave me new insght to consider. It is really sad how posts from others makes me look like I am looking for a fight here! I have said in an earlier post that I appreciate all the comments and I am just going to write this one off as an extra-personable customer service experience! I do have a sense of humor, ya know! I am not looking to sue anyone! I was simply asking for input from others as to whether or not this was a big deal or not! I got mixed answers, but I am shocked at how out of hand that this has gotten! Please read all of the posts from the OP only if you would like to make an assumption on what my intentions are, which I think that you will see that I was only looking for opinions.

Thanks for your input.
On the Other Hand

If you never let up and the pictures don't work, she will do anything in her power to hide it from you.  My mom has nagged me since the day she found out and that made me go to great lengths to keep it from her.  My brother's wife did the same thing to him and he would smoke at work and not at home.  Then, when he came to visit, he would take me to the store so he could smoke on the way there. 


I know she is only 16, but if she doesn't want to hear what you have to say about it, she'll just keep hiding it and keep smoking unless you two come to an agreement.


Good luck.  I do hope she quits.


Off hand
I can only think of Susan Lucci, Barbara Walters, Suzanne Sommers ... many who are getting up there have better looking arms than I would expect. Of course, they probably have other tricks too.

I think the surgeries are a bit touchy ... it seems often certain things will look better because of it and others worse. I had my nose done (for instance), and my profile looks better, but I liked my old nose from the frontal view.

Another thing that scares me is it seems there are so many infections from hospitals nowadays. I think one has to really think it over for sure.

Thanks for the info! : )
raising my hand too..sm
and personally, due to the amount of money involved in ALL professional sports, I cannot help but think that most of it is one big set up and the public is being ripped off by feeding in to it, sort of like the professional wrestling teams. that is just a thought though, and not meant to stir up any one's irrational emotions about sports. I also think they are TOO competitive and families are pushing their youngsters into sports WAY too young, just to bring in the big bucks later in life. Part of my work is for a pediatric orthopedist and a youngster of 3 years old suffering sports injuries, in my opinion, is WAY too young!
I have to hand it to Lee C. Bollinger,
President of Columbia University. I listened to his speech and particularly liked:

 

“Let's, then, be clear at the beginning, Mr. President you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator.”

 

And his ending:

 

I am only a professor, who is also a university president, and today I feel all the weight of the modern civilized world yearning to express the revulsion at what you stand for.  I only wish I could do better.

 

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Bollinger's introductory remarks insulting,  (Well, duh!)  What, did he expect....to be handed flowers and a key to NYC?

 

      

hand quilt
A baby quilt is not too large, so I would hand quilt. If this is your first, do a very simple pattern such as a window pane about 3-4 inches apart top to bottom, then side to side, or quilt around design. Get a good beginner's quilting book. It will really help you learn. Happy quilting!
Thanks to all. I think I will try hand quilting. Seems
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T hand signal
Wow, way back when I was in high school, if a student was doing this, he was probably on a basketball court and wanted a time-out called. What's next....
Hand claps. sm
I had a dog that went deaf.  Bless her heart, it took me almost a year to realize she had gone deaf.  She would respond to hand claps - I don't know if it was the vibration or what, but she would alert at hand claps when dummy me finally realized she had gone deaf.
The phone is yours, don't hand it in.
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Are you going to hold his hand on the subway, too?nm
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Do you know that about Cuba from first-hand experience?
I traveled through much of Cuba a few years back and unlike the other countries mentioned, there are no luxuries that fund education or health care...but, having said that, and stating that the country is very poor, many things that are in place today are much better than before Castro. The education system is quite extraordinary for those who excel in school and wish to take advantage of it and are true to the communist idealism.

The economy is now mostly based on its tourism industry, and still it is a bargain to visit there. This will probably change soon, though, as the government is investing heavily in building new hotels and resorts. They are working hard to build relationships with countries outside the US influence and are just beginning to tap those potential benefits.

Having experienced healthcare services while in Cuba, I must say that everything was top notch. I did have to pay for it. The clinics for non-Cubans are not free, but it is exceedingly affordable. What amounted to an emergency room visit and observation here in the US was handle with an ocean-side view room with cable TV, my own private doctor, private nurse and private pharmacist and including a week's worth of Cipro was less than $177 US.

Yes, there is a lot of poverty and third world hardships (my personal belief is there is no longer a reason to have the embargo and I am against it), but the people are wonderfully interprising, hardworking, long suffering, happy, friendly and very pround about how their lives are so much better now than under the previous dictatorship.

They have come a long way under Castro's rule (I'm not debating I think he is perfect, but he is very loyal to his country and ideals).
I am so sorry to hear that. If you re-think things you have it on hand. SM
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Second-hand and generic items
I am shopping for second-hand items at resale shops and buying only sale and generic items at the grocery store. I don't drive as much or as far as I used to to shop. I am working more hours, although for less pay as an MT.

I think the the crooks (politicians) who put the American public in this position should be prosecuted.
Would rather have someone hand it than e-mail cards sm
I only use these on occasions they don't usually make cards for. I send one to my bro for Vets day with Flag and music, he loves it but not for Christmas, please!
I do both ways, wash by hand and also
clean out food particles and wash in the dishwasher. I have no reservations about doing that. The only thing I don't like are family plates set on floor and animals eating out of those and reusing. Yuck.
Agree, you need a helping hand

When my sister had her first baby, she became overwhelmed quickly. You sound similar to how she was feeling.  So my mom and I started helping her out here and there, going over and staying with my nephew so she could leave the house for a couple hours, even if it was to grocery shop or run errands, just so she could get out alone.  Or we'd go get him and take him to our house for a couple hours, with instructions to her to TAKE A NAP or read a book, or something relaxing.  If you have family or friends willing to help out, take them up on it.  They wouldn't volunteer if they didn't want to do it.  


My sister's husband was helping out too, but he worked a lot of hours, 6 days a week.  In my sister's case, she was very independent and used to doing what she wanted when she wanted before the baby and I think that was part of what overwhelmed her, the feeling that she couldn't just pick up her purse and go somewhere as easily as before.  Good luck.  This will pass, don't be so hard on yourself.


 


Agree, you need a helping hand

When my sister had her first baby, she became overwhelmed quickly. You sound similar to how she was feeling.  So my mom and I started helping her out here and there, going over and staying with my nephew so she could leave the house for a couple hours, even if it was to grocery shop or run errands, just so she could get out alone.  Or we'd go get him and take him to our house for a couple hours, with instructions to her to TAKE A NAP or read a book, or something relaxing.  If you have family or friends willing to help out, take them up on it.  They wouldn't volunteer if they didn't want to do it.  


My sister's husband was helping out too, but he worked a lot of hours, 6 days a week.  In my sister's case, she was very independent and used to doing what she wanted when she wanted before the baby and I think that was part of what overwhelmed her, the feeling that she couldn't just pick up her purse and go somewhere as easily as before.  Good luck.  This will pass, don't be so hard on yourself.


 


Agree, you need a helping hand

When my sister had her first baby, she became overwhelmed quickly. You sound similar to how she was feeling.  So my mom and I started helping her out here and there, going over and staying with my nephew so she could leave the house for a couple hours, even if it was to grocery shop or run errands, just so she could get out alone.  Or we'd go get him and take him to our house for a couple hours, with instructions to her to TAKE A NAP or read a book, or something relaxing.  If you have family or friends willing to help out, take them up on it.  They wouldn't volunteer if they didn't want to do it.  


My sister's husband was helping out too, but he worked a lot of hours, 6 days a week.  In my sister's case, she was very independent and used to doing what she wanted when she wanted before the baby and I think that was part of what overwhelmed her, the feeling that she couldn't just pick up her purse and go somewhere as easily as before.  Good luck.  This will pass, don't be so hard on yourself.


 


I gave my daughter a hand mixer and...
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lol, you're posts are getting a little out of hand with the duh post below and this one.

in a kinder tone. The topic is not the concern to me, it's the tone of your posts. Thank you.


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Can't even imagine how Anna N. mother could walk on her daughter's freshly dug grave, never heard of such a thing.

There was a reason A.N. Smith was like she was and her mother may have been big part of it. That she had a multimillionaire daughter who didn't share the loot with her must probably made the woman insulted. Unevenly distributed wealth distorts close family relationships like nothing else can.
Anybody use a hand-held steamer for your ironing? sm
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Gently hand wash it in the sink and let air dry outside. nm
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glad you chose to hand quilt...sm

I've always felt that machine quilting was cheating...I like nana's idea of the yarn ties...that was the first one my grandma taught me how to do.  Mommy also quilted and we'd hit the quilt shows where you have to wear white gloves before touching any quilt. 


Recently went to the Museum of the American Quilter's Society in Paducah, KY (couldn't touch....it took all my willpower, believe you me).....The unique artistry and craftsmanship of each piece was breathtaking....a lot of applique and embroidery was employed as well...painting with thread and material...whoa!  My friend and I split up and studied those quilts for about 1-1/2 hours and then we asked each other "Which one would you choose to take home?"    Cat


 


 


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Is it tacky to hand someone a Christmas card...
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Hand him a bottle of sleeping pills and say
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Talking on the cell phone requires one hand to --sm
be on the phone and not on the wheel, unless of course they use a headset, which most do not! They have less control of their vehicle.

Besides, it is hard to ignore people at other tables who are talking on their cell phones, when they have to talk so LOUD to be heard over the background noise, that you cannot help but hear their conversation. I personally do not care what they are talking about, nor do I want to hear it, but cannot help it. Personally, I think people who take their phones with them into restaurants and public places, and have them constantly ringing and talking loudly about private stuff, are just doing it for attention, and to TRY to annoy other people. There is such a thing as cell phone etiquette too, you know, one of which is to leave your cell phone off while in public.
I agree. Hand him the headphones to have a listen. And stress how
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