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Kinesis Keyboard or Microsoft

Posted By: Hjs on 2007-06-26
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I have been working on Kinesis Keyboards for 10 years and mine finally started to die.  Has anybody went from Kinesis to the Microsoft Ergonomatic keyboard? I am trying to save cash but I am not sure if it would be worth the trade. Does anybody have any experience with this?


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kinesis vs microsoft ergo keyboards

is the touch really noticeably softer?  Can you just plug it in and go, without any retraining self to speak of? 


thanks.


Kinesis Keyboard and keyboard tray

Okay, any lefties use this keyboard? How long did it take to get used to? I use my left thumb for the space bar and I notice on a diagram of the keys that I would always be hitting the backspace key.


I'm really interested in getting a better keyboard. I destroyed my left hand and wrist the other week when I fell because I'm becoming a real klutz.


I bought the Soft Flex gloves, but they only help a little bit. My production is down because of it and it's driving me crazy. I can only type an hour without stopping and then have to rest the hand for some time.


I did buy a Microsoft 2000 keyboard but have yet to recieve it. Is this a good one?


Do you use a keyboard tray with it or just set it on the desk? Do you think a kayboard tray would be the least expensive item right now that would help with a straight keyboard?


Any info you can provide to help me in making any decision would be greatfully appreciated.


'Scuse me for being old school, but I've only ever used a straight keyboard.


 


KINESIS KEYBOARD
Can those of you who use this keyboard please let me know how you like them?  How long of an adjustment period is there?  Are they worth the price????
Kinesis Keyboard

I have been using the Professional Kinesis for maybe eight or nine years and it is the best.  I would not even consider going back no matter what the cost.  When I look at my son's regular keyboard, I think how did I ever work on a keyboard like this.  I tried all the other keyboards Microsoft Natural, etc. but the Kinesis is worth every penny.  My hands and wrists used to kill me and since getting this keyboard I have had almost no problems. Of couse, now and then your hands will still hurt but I probably would have had to quit typing years ago if not for this keyboard.  It takes a little getting used to, may a couple days or week or so but not very long.  Good Luck


Kinesis keyboard - sm
I use the Kinesis Maxim, and have for years. I've tried different keyboards, like the Goldtouch, but the Goldtouch doesn't have the attached wrist rests that I need/use. Otherwise, they are very similar keyboards. I have a Goldtouch in the closet I used for one day, and that was it. I have another keyboard in the closet that is in three parts, you arrange them as you like, can't think of the name offhand (it was expensive - in the $300 range), but couldn't get the hang of that one and it didn't fit under my desk in the keyboard tray. AND, I've tried numerous other ones, but always go back to the Kinesis Maxim. Good luck with your search.
to those who use a Kinesis keyboard
i just got a classic -- used it for 3 days and now i get up and go to start working, and the keyboard does not work at all -- not one key (the first one sent to me had one key malfunctioning, so had to return that).  After retraining my brain to the new key locations, this is killing me to go back to a standard layout, not to mention the touch on my old MS now feels like i'm working on a manual keyboard... have you had trouble with yours? 
Kinesis Keyboard-how to get used to it

Just bought one. It came with an exercise booklet and I am trying to do those exercises. It states not to wrist your hands on the wrist rests. Then why have them?


Does anyone think the keys are too noisy and "claky"? I thought they would be a really soft touch and quiet.


I found that I cannot keep my left hand on the home keys. How can I train my left hand to do that? Am I sitting wrong or do I have the keyboard situated wrong? I have it sitting straight on the top of the desk. Should I angle it a bit? 


I truly thought it would take me forever to get used to using the space bar (or should I say key?) but had no trouble at all.


Is there a place I can get more info on using the function keys and other keys at the top of the keyboard? I didn't find much on the website. So far, I like my Microsoft Ergo 200 better.


Thanks for any information you can provide.


I worked with someone once who used the Kinesis keyboard.
She absolutely loved it. Didn't take long to get used to it and her carpal tunnel syndrome was much, much better. Now she can't type on a regular keyboard. Her productivity increased, too.
Kinesis Classic Keyboard

It took me several days I believe to get use to the Kinesis. I just started out slow and when I became frustrated trying to use it I went back to the regular keyboard but soon found I was having more trouble typing on a regular keyboard so stuck with the Kinesis only and I would say it may have taken me two weeks to get back to speed but it has been well worth it to me.


I had OT come out to my house and they suggested I put something under the edge of my keyboard, the edge closest to me, so it would be basically neutral. I found a long wrist rest under that edge puts the keyboard at a perfect height for a neutral position. It is just one of those cheap foam ones like you find at Walmart but it works great.


It is the softest touch keyboard I have ever used which really ended finger fatigue for me. It also helped with my fingers aching and some of my hand pain. I had to change to an Evoluent mouse (as I posted below) and my right hand  hand/arm pain stopped.


Now, if only I could just find a way to stop my chronic back pain. :D


Let us know what you decide on and how it works for you, ok?


KINESIS ERGO KEYBOARD

Kinesis Ergonomic Keyboard.  Newest technology, a MTs dream.  Feels like a cadillac when compared with other keyboards.  Purchased 10/2006, excellent condition.  Paid $350, will sell for $290--like new.  Adaptation exercise book.  Retired as MT.   Follow this link to review benefits:


http://www.kinesis-org.com/benefits.htm.


Anyone use Kinesis contoured keyboard?

I'm on day 8 of slathering Ben-Gay all over my piddies and right shoulder for worsening pain that must be either tendonitis and/or bursitis.  It's totally frigging up my line counts and will to live. 


I've been wearing my SmartGloves and doing everything else "right" as far as stretching, taking breaks, and even getting up and doing "the hustle."  ;-)


The only 2 things I can think of needing replacing here are my chair and my keyboard.  I've been eyeballing that Kinesis contoured and it looks both sweet and scary at the same time.  I checked a YouTube video of it and it makes that little clicky noise I love, which means the keys snap back and are quick...love that.  I hate mushy keys. 


So, does anyone here use this particular keyboard and if so, would you recommend it?  I mean like HIGHLY recommend it?!  Sure is a steep price tag, and I am tight with a dollar, so be honest.  Thank you!


Oh--the link for the keyboard I'm fancyin' is:
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/    
It's the contoured one...fugly one farthest on the left.


 


Anyone use the Kinesis Advantage keyboard? see msg....
I would really appreciate any kind of feedback on this keyboard.  It's expensive but my hands/wrists/fingers are killing me.  Since I do VR mostly, I'm wondering where the arrow keys are.  Can't tell by the pics on the Kinesis site.  Also, are the keys really low-force and do you think that helps reduce pain and discomfort when typing?  Anything you could tell me, good or bad, before I spend this much money would be so appreciated.

 

Thanks!

Anyone use the Kinesis Freestyle keyboard?
That one that separates with a cord?  There are accessories such as an incline platform that look interesting.  I was hoping someone has this or has used one in the past....

 

What I really need to know is if they keys are considered low-impact.  I think that is what is killing my hands/wrists....pounding away on my microsoft keyboard. 

 

Any replies would be greatly appreciated.    Thanks in Advance!

 

 

 

Have you ever tried the Kinesis contoured keyboard, with the little "wells"? sm

They tout it as the "most productive and comfortable ergonomic keyboard available."  There's no place to try one out, and at $299, I'm not sure I'm ready to part with the cash, even though they have a moneyback guarantee.  Even on eBay, when I have seen them, they are pretty pricey, and that would be even more risky, since you can't usually return things on eBay.  


 


Just wondering if you had any experience with it ........ thanks!   


Kinesis Contoured Ergonomic Keyboard

Has anyone used this keyboard?  (It is the weird shaped one).  How comfortable are the hard plastic wrist rests?


Is anyone brave enough to try the Kinesis Contoured keyboard? sm
www.kinesis.com My sister is looking at one - almost every review she has read - people love it! It sure is funny looking.
The Kinesis Classic Keyboard is the softest touch I have used. (nm)
:)
Keyboard Opinions - Avant versus Kinesis

I am faced with a decision between these 2 keyboards, both with pros and cons.  I would like to take a survey to see what everyone's opinion would be.   I strongly prefer a programmable keyboard, as I would like to change some of the keys around to suit me,  but will I regret not having an ergo keyboard in the long run?  Will I like the IBM clicky type keys? 


KINESIS FREESTYLE KEYBOARD
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/freestyle-solo_690x375.jpg
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/solo-v3-10-blk_690x306.jpg
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/solo_us_legend.jpg


It splits and tents.
Delete key is on left side (which I love)
All other function keys are in the wrong place for me.
Quiet low-force tactile membrane switch
10 function keys on left
Keypad separate purchase
2 year warranty
60-day money back guarantee
Price:  $124.15 with the options I chose


AVANT STELLAR KEYBOARD
http://www.lonestarkeyboards.com/Avant-Stellar-Programmable-Keyboard/productinfo/KB%2D00%2D1001/
(click on additional images for close up)
I actually went to the manufacturer website (http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/stellar.htm) but they didn’t have any large photos so I went to a reseller for larger images. 


Straight keyboard
Can program any key to another function. 
Mechanical click/tactile key switches like the old IBM keyboards
12 function keys on left that can be reprogrammed
Keypad built in
2 year warranty
30-day money back guarantee
Price:  $189.00
Macro programming features
PS/2 interface but can buy PS to USB cord (I find this a little odd)
Programming software not compatible with Vista but can be programmed through the keyboard


This is from the sales rep I spoke to this week:
Have you ever heard of Northgate OmniKey keyboards?  We purchased the rights to the keyboards when they went out of business.  It is like typing on an old IBM keyboard.  It is a loud click, you know when you hit a key.  A lot of customers say they make fewer errors and I personally agree.  I have had my Avant for a little over 10 years and I type all day long.  I also have one at home.  It might help for you to listen to this review on our website: http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/menu.htm
Click on HEAR OUR INTERVIEW ON Lets talk Computers. Avant is VERY reliable.  We sell to a lot of medical transcriptionists, writers, gamers, call center operators, etc.  People that type 8 hours a day 5+ days per week.  Our keyboards can really take a beating.  


What'cha think?


Please Help - anyone who uses the Kinesis Freestyle Solo split keyboard....
 am considering buying one.  However, I noticed you have to buy a keypad separately.  I use the numbers at the top so I don't need a keypad.  Or so I thought, until I realized I use the plus and minus key on the keypad when we are in the ADT screen to move the date back.
 

So, my question is:  Do I have to also buy that separate keypad or is there a plus/minus key (that you don't have to use SHIFT to use) on the keyboard?

 

Thanks!

Morency board and Kinesis keyboard along with comfortable chair
Hi, I have been doing transcription for 14 years and about 4 years ago purchased a Kinesis keyboard and Morency arm rest board and they have been a lifesaver.  The key to a comfortable chair is one you can adjust the height, back, seat, etc and once you get it comfortable make sure no one changes it ! Some chairs have arm rests if you don't get a Morency board and help out.
I have the microsoft, and I like the keyboard, but
I don't like the built-in wrist rest. It's too hard, and I still have to put my gel pad on top of that. other than that, I like it. It took some getting used to for a couple of days.
Microsoft keyboard
I just got mine, but I really like it. It took about a week for me to get used to it. You have to get used to having your hands a little farther apart. I love the space bar and the favorites keys at the back. I suggest just giving it some time and keep typing on it. Good luck. You can customize a little by going to My Computer.
Microsoft keyboard
Try this. Press Shift/Ctrl, left and right side of keyboard at the same time, and hold for a second.
What was the Microsoft keyboard someone was talking about the other day
nm
Try Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard

Hi, try Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000.  I don't know about the wireless ergo keyboard but I do know they are expensive than the wired ones.  You could contact your local Microsoft hardware dealer. 


microsoft 4000 keyboard
I have this awsome keyboard too.  But i can't figure out when the cap lock is on until I go to type.  I can't find anything in the tiny book that came with it.  Did anyone get a booklet with theirs explaining the functions on the keyboard?  Thank you so much! 
Microsoft 4000 keyboard

I wanted to share a neat trick I recently figured out that I can do with my Microsoft USB Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (IntelliType Pro).  I recently posted a query asking if there was a way to turn numbering off and on without using the mouse (which I hate), and I've discovered that there is with this particular keyboard.  To turn the numbering feature on (for a list of current meds, for example), you hold down the Shift key, Ctrl key, and the key to the left of the Ctrl key that is the lower right of your keyboard (the key that looks like it has a picture of a page with an arrow on it).  This brings up a drop-down menu and you can select numbering or bullets from there.  the first time I did this, I discovered it made funky changes to my font, so I had to go in and set the font (by selecting the customize button in the lower right corner on the numbering option), and once I had it all tweaked to the way I wanted it, it appeared to have reset my default to the way to my preference.  I apologize if this is confusing, but if you have this keyboard, and you have any questions about my instructions, feel free to ask, and I'd be glad to try to help!


Microsoft 4000 keyboard
Hey, I've realized you don't even have to do the key combination. Just pushing the one key with the picture on it brings up the numbering menu option.
Microsoft 4000 keyboard
You're right! I didn't realize that either. I suppose that button functions the same way on other keyboards as well. I just learned this 'trick,' and I was really excited. Too bad I hadn't realized this all along!
The New Microsoft 4000 Keyboard
Yes, I have a suggestion, TAKE THE BLAMED THING BACK AND GET THE OTHER TYPE OF KEYBOARD.  I beta tested this thing for Microsoft and gave it an entire week to try to position my left hand differently and it just wouldn't happen.  The sad part of it is that once I returned it and got one like I have used for years, I couldn't use it successfully for several days either because my fingers had tried very hard to retrain themselves.  This keyboard is for an Internet junky and NOT for someone who uses a keyboard to earn a living transcribing.  That is the conclusion I drew.  I don't really know why Microsoft thought they needed to reinvent the wheel, so to speak.  I was hoping that no one else would have the experience I had with this but looks like there may be several.  Have a nice day!!!
I use the microsoft wave keyboard
I'm sorry I didn't go to that link but it sounds like my MS keyboard. I went to a wireless one a few months back b/c it was on sale and had bonus wireless mouse so I thought I would try it. I do like it; I tend to prefer a clacky keyboard (showin' my age!) and it clicks and clacks just enough to keep me happy without being too "hard." The positioning of the keys works for me. It's not as split as my old ergo keyboard, but those are hard to find in the stores anymore so I "made do."
Microsoft 4000 keyboard

Does anyone ever experience problems with their Microsoft 4000 keyboard where it will suddenly appear as if the Caps lock has been pushed, and your punctuation marks come out wrong and words are suddenly filling in with all caps and no matter what you do, it continues to happen? 


 


I’ve worked in ChartScript and DocQScribe (currently working in the latter program) and had this happen.  It’s as if my keyboard and the software are having compatibility issues or something totally out of the blue.  Oftentimes, it will remedy itself, but if I do not want to wait that indeterminate amount of time, my experience has been that the only way to fix it is to totally shut down the computer and reboot, but that doesn’t always fix it.  It doesn’t only happen in ChartScript and DocQscribe.  I can open Word and type in there, and it does the same sort of squirrelly thing!


 


It’s so frustrating and wreaks havoc on productivity!!!


Microsoft 4000 v1.0 Keyboard
Is there any way to program my Microsoft 4000 v1.0 keyboard without the CD?  I can't find it, and none of my extra buttons are working
Microsoft 4000 split keyboard.

Does anyone use this keyboard?  I just got one thinking it would help my hands from hurting, but I am having a bit of a hard time adjusting to the keyboard.  Did anyone else have this problem?  If so, did you catch on, or did you have to return it?  I went from the plain keyboard to this, but It has  slowed me down tremendously.  I wonder if I should get an ergonomic keyboard without the split?  Any suggestions?


 


Thanks in advance for your suggestions!


Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite
My Elite died on me (don't try to take them apart for cleaning).  I tried the 4000 and hated it. I bought it in a pinch because stores don't sell the Elite anymore. You really had the hit the space bar pretty hard and I just did not care for the touch of it.  I returned it. I finally found a store that sold the Elite and bought 2 of them, otherwise you have to buy them online.
Do you have Microsoft 4000 keyboard? (see inside)
If so, find the "F Lock" key and see if it is on.
microsoft Natural keyboard 4000
It is an ergo keyboard... Really you would love it if you would give it a try. It definately takes a little to get used to, but now I wouldn't be without it....And this new model is FANTASTIC! It has a built in reverse angle to avoid wrist pain, built in wrist pad, quiet keys that require light touch. I don't use other features like the built in hot buttons, but they are there also. All around great keyboard for about 50.00.
I got a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard - sm
at Office Depot... not very expensive, (maybe $39?), and it has a great feature... a little lever off on the left side of the keyboard that if you want the letters to appear larger, you push it up, and smaller, you push it down. Only takes 1 finger. I LOVE it! :)
Help with new Microsoft 4000 natural keyboard

Any tips on how to get used to this keyboard?  i think it might relieve my neck pain but I keep hitting the wrong keys.  it took me a long time just to type this message!



Thanks,


Microsoft® Wireless Comfort Keyboard 1.0A...sm
Model 1027.  Lots of added bonus keys if you are an avid gamer.
I use the Microsoft Natural Multimedia keyboard
I LOVE IT
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000

Has anyone had a chance to try this new keyboard out yet?

I saw it at Best Buy yesterday and had a chance to give it a little hands-on feel. Very interesting. Started a little research and the reviews seem to be fairly positive (7/10 to 8/10).

But, I'm more trustworthy of feedback from people like MTs who really give keyboards a good "workout" on a daily basis.


Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
I have a brand new one still in the box that I'll sell for a fraction of the retail cost. Just email me at rinny1987@yahoo.com.
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
I read where some MTs were enjoying this keyboard, and they are quite inexpensive, so DH picked one up for me at Tiger Direct. Whoever recommended it is right; it has an quick touch for me and you can switch from a straight keyboard and it won't slow you down like most of the ergonomic keyboards. I usually like a very clicky touch, and this isn't like that. But the key action is quick and you barely have to touch them to activate the keys. The backspace is double-wide too. Since there is no space in the middle like so many ergonomic keyboards, there is no issue about reaching the 6 with your preferred hand, either.
Microsoft Symbols short cut Keyboard Sheet
Hi. Does anyone have or know where I can find a Microsoft Symbols Keyboard short cut list for various symbols including degree, Greek letters, etc. I know how to do it the slow way but I know they make keyboard shortcut lists. Any help would be appreciated.
Microsoft Natural 4000 Ergnomic Keyboard
I have been using this keyboard for two years now and I will be needing a new one in the next week or two (the cord is getting frayed).  I'm interested in one of the Microsoft wireless keyboards, but I'm concerned that the touch won't be as light as it is with the 4000.  Does anybody have any experience with these wireless keyboards and is there one that somebody would recommend? 
I have the exact same problem with my microsoft keyboard - thought it was me doing something!
I usually just delete the last 4 or 5 words and start from there and it corrects the problem.
The Microsoft Wireless optical keyboard has greatly eased SM
The Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 1000 keyboard (came packaged with wireless mouse at Staples), box says "standard keyboard + optical mouse) has greatly, greatly relieved symptoms on my elbows and wrists.

My elbows just stung before I got this keyboard. If I relax and kind of let it do what it wants, kind of get used to its touch, I really like it. It has greatly helped my elbow symptoms in particular.
Try a microsoft elite, cheap on ebay and a great keyboard. nm
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You want the Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard. Google it. nm
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You might try wireless keyboard and mouse--mine by Microsoft made it better to type faster. SM
You might try wireless keyboard and mouse--mine by Microsoft made it better and I was typing faster.

Just keep the wireless "thing" that both the mouse and keyboard transmit to (and the part that is connected to the computer) out in the open, not covered up by papers, books, etc.

I tried to go back to my other keyboard, the one that plugs in, and could hardly type on it. The wireless keyboard was a lot faster and so it is less work.

Hope this helps.