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MS Ergonomic Natural 4000...

Posted By: MTBlab on 2006-08-15
In Reply to: RE: Anyone know of a real light touch keyboard that is a reasonable price? - Kristie

I admit, it took me a few days to get used to where the keys are, but I bought it for my wrists.  Two things:  My wrists have quit burning and the keys are very soft touch.  I love it.  I got mine at an office store for 59 dollars.  I guess not cheap, but it was worth it for me since I plan to type until my little fingers won't work anymore.  


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Anyone use the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
keyboard?  Lately my wrists have been hurting and I've been having to take too many breaks.  Of course, can't afford to do that.  I was hoping if someone has the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 keyboard they could give advice on whether they think it helps their wrists as compared to a regular keyboard. 

 

I can't afford to buy it if it doesn't work YET I can't afford the loss in production from this wrist pain.  Funny, it's always been my ankles that got sore, now it's my wrists instead. 

 

 They do have the keyboard above on sale at Best Buy right now for only $50, but even that is too much IF it doesn't help with the wrist pain. 

 

IAny advice would be much appreciated.... Thanks So Much

Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
is the keyboard I use, and I like it.  I don't have a problem with the shift keys, but now that you mention it, I usually only use the one on the left side.  I never noticed that, wow.  Using the right one would probably help me out.  I like my keyboard because the keys are smooth to press, it is raised in the middle, and it has a bunch of cool features like a zoom bar, favorites keys, and other helpful shortcut keys. 
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000

Has anyone had a chance to try this new keyboard out yet?

I saw it at Best Buy yesterday and had a chance to give it a little hands-on feel. Very interesting. Started a little research and the reviews seem to be fairly positive (7/10 to 8/10).

But, I'm more trustworthy of feedback from people like MTs who really give keyboards a good "workout" on a daily basis.


Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
I have a brand new one still in the box that I'll sell for a fraction of the retail cost. Just email me at rinny1987@yahoo.com.
Ergonomic 4000
I bought one this weekend, as a matter of fact. I wasn't a fan of the so-called multimedia/internet keyboards before, but I have to say I do like these shortcut button thingies. Circuit City has a web-only sale on it and it qualifies for free shipping I believe.
Microsoft Natural 4000
I tried the new Microsoft Natural ergo and actually perform my old (Elite) model. I do 400 lph and did not feel that the Microsoft Natural 400 felt nearly fast enough on the demo.
I love my MS Natural 4000 sm
The 4000 has a much lighter action than previous models. They make a standard keyboard with the same action. I go to the office supply store, try them out, and then buy them on e-bay for much less than at the store. Hope this helps.
4000 Ergonomic Keyboard
I just purchased and using the Microsoft 4000 ergonomic keyboard and love it.  It took a couple of days to get used to the keys.  I have used other ergonomic keyboards, but this one is the best. 
Microsoft 4000 ergonomic one...
Wonderful keyboard! I give it a 9/10.
MIcrosoft Natural Ergonomic

Best one I ever had.  It has all the programmable shortcut buttons at the top for programs and/or webpages and is extremely comfortable.  I used to have problems with my hands hurting a lot after a full day of working and now it is gone.  It took about a week for me to get used to the feel of the split board, but now I can't stand using a regular one.  I even take this one when I travel to my in-laws.


I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic.
I got it on sale at Staples for around $60. When I used to work in a hospital, I had one for home and bought one to use at the hospital. They are not all that expensive and well worth it.
I also use Microsoft Natural Ergonomic and ...

just purchased a store-return new backup keyboard through Amazon for around $25 dollars ..


New, at my local CompUSA they were close to $60 regularly and went down to around $40 on special ... that store closed and I'm not sure where I would buy one now (most places do not carry them) ...the time and angst spent replacing a keyboard in a hurry is REAL and well worth preparing for (also keyboards keep getting  redesigned which is really annoying when you're typing all day and have to switch in a hurry -- so it's great to have an "old model" on standby -- I last had to replace my keyboard when I popped off a key that was sticking and it went flying and I have NEVER found it ... it was an N) 


I've found this particular model to be comfy and durable --- I didn't think I would like it and I really do -- it's quiet and has good key play.


My next purchase is going to be QuickLook Drug book on DISK since it can do wildcard searches of partial lookup -- my old web site for that "changed" and is not helpful and there are SO many bad Google entries.


Anything that makes you more comfortable with less fighting your desk also helps --- a decent chair and glare protection, a foot rest .


and SAMPLES when I start a new account I save almost every report I type, even if they are full of blanks -- which I fill in when I review my QA  -- invaluable for saving time figuring out H&P mumbles and  particularly op note


I use RED NOTEBOOK from Horus development (link below) ... I am not aware of anything comparable ... it's searchable. You can, for instance, upload a hospital medical staff roster  if saved in TXT, edit and print out lists,  just fabulous for new accounts with new terms / medications/ names for things.


Good luck.


microsoft Natural keyboard 4000
It is an ergo keyboard... Really you would love it if you would give it a try. It definately takes a little to get used to, but now I wouldn't be without it....And this new model is FANTASTIC! It has a built in reverse angle to avoid wrist pain, built in wrist pad, quiet keys that require light touch. I don't use other features like the built in hot buttons, but they are there also. All around great keyboard for about 50.00.
Help with new Microsoft 4000 natural keyboard

Any tips on how to get used to this keyboard?  i think it might relieve my neck pain but I keep hitting the wrong keys.  it took me a long time just to type this message!



Thanks,


Microsoft Natural 4000 Ergnomic Keyboard
I have been using this keyboard for two years now and I will be needing a new one in the next week or two (the cord is getting frayed).  I'm interested in one of the Microsoft wireless keyboards, but I'm concerned that the touch won't be as light as it is with the 4000.  Does anybody have any experience with these wireless keyboards and is there one that somebody would recommend? 
I just bought a Microsoft Natural Ergo 4000 from Officemax
for about $60 (not exactly cheap).

I can't attest to how long this one is going to last, but I do really like it. However, when I bought it, I was given an option of buying a 2-year extended warranty for like an additional $12. They said they would replace the keyboard for any reason in that time period. I declined, but maybe not a bad investment for people like us who can go through keyboards.
Microsoft ergonomic 4000 with enhanced curve. Love it!

The keys are very soft to touch, keys are easy to hit and the wrist pad is a very comfortable soft, leather-like material.  It only has a USB plug-in but you can get an adapter. I paid $60.00 for it at OfficeMax.  It was well worth it. I will never use another keyboard!


$4000
I think it is very possible. My goal is $1200 a week and if there is work available I generally make it. I do work about 3 hours sat. and 3 hours on sunday. I work for a small company and make 11 cents a line.
Microsoft 4000
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$3800-4000
Gross, employee status, 40 hours.  I also make another $500 or so a month with a small account as a subcontractor (between 5 and 10 hours a week)  
4000 keyboard
Do you still have this? I would be interested.
I have Microsoft 4000 too...sm
I've had mine for about a month now.  It took some getting used to, but I love it.  I've had several ergonomic split keyboards in the past, but this one is just more comfortable for me... not sure why!  I got mine at Office Depot on sale with rebate for around $25.  BTW, My husband also got one at BestBuy; they honored the Office Depot sale price with no rebate to send in.
Same Here; Microsoft 4000
I LOVE it and don't know what I'd do without it.  Best thing I bought for work.  It took me about a week to get used to it and my speed back up to normal.  It sure was worth it, though!
microsoft 4000 Yes!

I use the Microsoft 4000 and it is the only keyboard that I don't have pain with.  My wrist pain was so bad that I thought I would have to give this line of work up.  I have tried many many keyboards including Goldtouch, the other microsoft ergonomics (2000 and Elite), Belkin, Typematrix, Logitech split, Kensington comfort type, etc. ergonomic this and ergonomic that.  Wasted a lot of money looking for the right one.  But the the Microsoft 4000 was the one.   No more pain. 


The one thing that I do is use a mouse bridge over the number pad to bring the mouse in closer and I also got an ergonomic mouse.  The investment was well worth it because it increased my comfort.


I got 2 of the MS4000 keyboards on ebay for about 12 bucks with 10 bucks shipping.  It was worth 25 dollars.  If you are willing to buy from there you don't need to pay 50 dollars and can probably get with shipping under 25 or so.  Good luck.


Microsoft 4000
By jobs, do you mean reports or the whole enchilada? If it's the latter, that's horrible!!! I tried to explain to a former boss when I was having this problem with my keyboard, and she seemed to think I was making it up, but she didn't fire me. I even had access to another identical keyboard and found it had the same fits. That's just awful! You have no control over when it happens. Wonder if Microsoft is aware of this little problem?
question about MS 4000
It looks as though this has one of those wrist resting spots. Is it a problem to use without resting them there (I like to keep them up)? I am looking for a new keyboard but they all look scary! :)

Any further details appreciated.
natural estrogen
Estroven, mexican yam (in the supplement section of WalMart and health food stores), Black Cohost (also in supplement section), soy products.  There are also estrogen creams, over-the-counter, that you apply topically. 
natural disaster
well, if Mt. Rainier even erupts or sends a lahar through the Puyallup Valley, thousands of people will be buried alive in 30 feet of 300 mile per mud and rocks the size of dump trucks. But unlike New Orleans, we have drills, and evacuate routes already set up. Incompetent planning is all it is.
the natural order in the would does not
nm
Try using a more natural makeup

I hear mineral-based makeup is the best for your skin as it contains no harsh chemicals or ingredients. its also supposed to be great for sensitive skin and/or acne-proned skin.


I used Mineralles by Shaklee & i love it!! It doesnt even compare to my old makeup (I used Lancome before)


Its more expensive than drug-store brands but less expensive (or the same) to the department store brands.


I like the MS natural multimedia
with its 'split' (but intact) keyboard, and esp like the down-slope of the wrist rest and the slight hump in the middle, which lends to a more natural position of the arms. Plus you can easily 'program'many keys to either do different functions or take you directly to certain websites. Cost is also very reasonable, comparatively.
Dealsonic has the MS natural
Not sure if it's the multimedia or not but it's only around $16. I had the 4000 and took it back to Circuit City -- some of the letter keys didn't always work.
no such thing as all natural...
everything that is natural is made of chemicals...combinations of hydrogen and carbon. Everything. Including carrots, tomatoes, meat, spaghetti-o's, synthetic insulin, your bones and blood...all chemicals.
It's just a natural thang....




Been using a Natural for 6 yrs and LOVE it!
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natural keyboard
It will take you a couple of days to get used to but then you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Good for the wrists and lets your arms and hands sit more naturally. I'm all thumbs when it comes to regular keyboards now.
Natural disasters everywhere

The upheavals in regular routines would cause changes in work flow.  There would be more emergency room and less clinic.  More orthopaedic and possibly more Infectious Disease, but less preventive maintenance and well care checkups. 


you don't want ergonomic, but
if you would take the time to adjust, the Kinesis Classic is great. AND you can reprogram keys. just the difference in location of keys and key-depth has already helped my CTS a lot!
Only 4000 entries? hmm, I have 14,000 and use about 8000/day
guess I just don't know what I'm doing wrong with my acute care job. A good day to me is 1700 lines. My average day is 1300.

Yes, DOS was the ideal setting for production. Your "what planet are you on" comment made me think about several Pink Floyd songs!
4000-5000 I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this again. SM

This is gross pay with two different places. It is not full time. Yes, I use expanders, no, I don't do the same two doctors every day.


Yes, I am very lucky. Yes, I am very fast. No, I am not lying, and I am sorry if you are not in as good a position as mine.


4000 LPD??? They think y'all are machines?..

listen - it's a RARE MT who could do 4000 LPD..

microsoft 4000 keyboard
I have this awsome keyboard too.  But i can't figure out when the cap lock is on until I go to type.  I can't find anything in the tiny book that came with it.  Did anyone get a booklet with theirs explaining the functions on the keyboard?  Thank you so much! 
Microsoft 4000 keyboard

I wanted to share a neat trick I recently figured out that I can do with my Microsoft USB Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (IntelliType Pro).  I recently posted a query asking if there was a way to turn numbering off and on without using the mouse (which I hate), and I've discovered that there is with this particular keyboard.  To turn the numbering feature on (for a list of current meds, for example), you hold down the Shift key, Ctrl key, and the key to the left of the Ctrl key that is the lower right of your keyboard (the key that looks like it has a picture of a page with an arrow on it).  This brings up a drop-down menu and you can select numbering or bullets from there.  the first time I did this, I discovered it made funky changes to my font, so I had to go in and set the font (by selecting the customize button in the lower right corner on the numbering option), and once I had it all tweaked to the way I wanted it, it appeared to have reset my default to the way to my preference.  I apologize if this is confusing, but if you have this keyboard, and you have any questions about my instructions, feel free to ask, and I'd be glad to try to help!


Microsoft 4000 keyboard
Hey, I've realized you don't even have to do the key combination. Just pushing the one key with the picture on it brings up the numbering menu option.
Microsoft 4000 keyboard
You're right! I didn't realize that either. I suppose that button functions the same way on other keyboards as well. I just learned this 'trick,' and I was really excited. Too bad I hadn't realized this all along!
The New Microsoft 4000 Keyboard
Yes, I have a suggestion, TAKE THE BLAMED THING BACK AND GET THE OTHER TYPE OF KEYBOARD.  I beta tested this thing for Microsoft and gave it an entire week to try to position my left hand differently and it just wouldn't happen.  The sad part of it is that once I returned it and got one like I have used for years, I couldn't use it successfully for several days either because my fingers had tried very hard to retrain themselves.  This keyboard is for an Internet junky and NOT for someone who uses a keyboard to earn a living transcribing.  That is the conclusion I drew.  I don't really know why Microsoft thought they needed to reinvent the wheel, so to speak.  I was hoping that no one else would have the experience I had with this but looks like there may be several.  Have a nice day!!!
Microsoft 4000 keyboard

Does anyone ever experience problems with their Microsoft 4000 keyboard where it will suddenly appear as if the Caps lock has been pushed, and your punctuation marks come out wrong and words are suddenly filling in with all caps and no matter what you do, it continues to happen? 


 


I’ve worked in ChartScript and DocQScribe (currently working in the latter program) and had this happen.  It’s as if my keyboard and the software are having compatibility issues or something totally out of the blue.  Oftentimes, it will remedy itself, but if I do not want to wait that indeterminate amount of time, my experience has been that the only way to fix it is to totally shut down the computer and reboot, but that doesn’t always fix it.  It doesn’t only happen in ChartScript and DocQscribe.  I can open Word and type in there, and it does the same sort of squirrelly thing!


 


It’s so frustrating and wreaks havoc on productivity!!!


Microsoft 4000 v1.0 Keyboard
Is there any way to program my Microsoft 4000 v1.0 keyboard without the CD?  I can't find it, and none of my extra buttons are working
microsoft wireless 4000

Another keyboard in this same curved group is the microsoft wireless 4000.  You can access 5 "favorites" with the push of a button (I have Mtstars as #3, so don't have to go to Internet, type the Mtstars in the address box), and 5 other buttons on the side of the keyboard you can program to whatever you want also.  Definitely is a time saver when trying to find something.  And the slight curve is definitely a saver on the wrists and not such a change like some ergonomic keyboards to try get used to.  It is a little more expensive, but definitely worth it, as long as we have to be on the keyboards as many hours as we are.


4000+ lines a day is literally not possible.
The MT companies are ripping MTs off with VR. It takes nearly as long, and in some cases longer, to edit and correct VR reports as it does to straight type them, and to pay half (or some horrible companies pay only a third!) of the line rate is completely unfair and unethical.