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Question about voice recorders

Posted By: Rad MT on 2007-08-10
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I am going to visit some family members in a couple of months and I would like to record some family stories and family history. Any suggestions on a type/brand of voice recorder that willl pick up sound very well but not require that it be right next to the person who is speaking? There are likely to be two or three people talking, and also I don't want to make people self-conscious about being recorded, so I would prefere to be able to place it somewhere unobtrusive.


TIA.




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Recorders

Hello


My doctors use Olympus recorders.  One doctor does well with the DS-10.  The other uses the DS-330 (No longer in production).  The DS-330 has the advantage of overwriting.  For instance, if the doctor makes a mistake, he can back up and record over what he has already taped; however, this was a disadvantage for my other doctor, who taped over his entire morning of dictation by accident by hitting a wrong button.  It depends on the doctor.  With the DS-10, you cannot tape over anything.  I know with both of them the software provided will automatically put it on the computer once plugged in if you set it to do so, but if you are sending the audio files over e-mail, you should consider first encrypting the file for confidentiality reasons before sending.  I use e-mail, because it is free, and it was easiest to train the office staff to use.  When getting a handheld, you want to consider the types of files also.  A .dss file is much smaller than a .wav file or a mp3 file.  That is also why I went to Olympus recorders, because they record in .dss format, which makes for much faster upload and download times.  If you have other questions, please e-mail me.


Lynn


 


digital recorders

Anyone familiar with the digital recorders?  One of my docs wants to get a recorder and send me his voice files via email, he's not worried about being encryped or anything like that.  I think he is looking, of course, to get the cheepest one out there.  Is there anything specific that I need to tell him that these recorders need to have??  Is the docking station that come with some just for convenience or is that the only way to send the files via email?


Thanks ya'all!


digital recorders - duh!
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Digital Recorders
I currently have a client who uses the old tapes. I have heard a little about 'digital' but don't know where to start. Can someone please explain to me how the process works after the doc has dictated using a digital recorder?
Digital recorders ? help plz
Hi, for those of you who use digital recorders with your clients, do you purchase them yourself and then give them to the client?  Do you tell the client they have to purchase their own?  Or do you purchase it yourself and then rent/lease it to the client?  Any input would be appreciated.  Thanks!!
digital recorders
My client keeps recording over his records on his Olympus digital recorder. Does anyone know of a recorder that will not record over something unless it is actually manually erased or one with some mechanism that will prevent this from happening? Thanks!!
digital recorders

I thought I posted this message, but I do not see it.


THis is for anyone that can help with digital recorders that they would recommend.  Thanks for all the help with the digital information, which I have researched FTP sites and so on.  I now know how it works and what I need to do. I now need help on the best digital recorders that you have experience with. I have a few Olympus DS4000, they seem expensive, and I will need 3 for each office, so I need cheap, but of good quality.  DS2 sounds good since you cannot edit, which a few state is not a good thing to have as Docs have problems with this. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Thanks Again  


What kind of recorders do the docs use?
Some of the manufacturers have proprietary software that can be used with the recorders that are optimal. For example, Olympus recorders have a transcription kit that contains software designed to work best with Olympus .dss sound files. You might check Novuscript.com. They have transcription kits/software for various recorders and they are really good about helping you figure out what will work best for your particular needs.
Buy handheld digital recorders.

Don't go cheap on those for several reasons. One, they higher-end recorders will be easier for the docs to backup and edit their recording. Also, they are better built and the sound quality is better.


Your basic needs are recorders, playback software, foot pedal to control playback and a secure, HIPAA-compliant method of transmitting files. There is so much information out there. Your best bet is to first get educated on how digital works. Try a Google search and also search this site since there have been many requests for the same information you're seeking.


If you want someone who will outline the steps, do set up and/or training, etc., you would do well to hire a consultant.


Question about digital recorders

I am just curious how this works.  Does the doc dictate on the digital recorder and then just plug into the computer and upload the dictation via e-mail to be downloaded by the MT?  I have been wanting to switch to digital for a LONG time but just haven't taken the time to research this.  Presently, I have several doctors that I transcribe for but they dictate on microcassettes.  Some of them don't want to change -- just stuck in their ways, but I think it would be easier for them and me and would save me a lot of $$$ on gas. 


Is there a lot involved in getting this set up? I mean, besides purchasing the recorders?


Any help is GREATLY appreciated!!


Which company is best to purchase digital recorders from?
I want to be sure I get good tech support along with my purchase and the original software that should come with the recorders I purchase.  (I have "heard" that some company may send their own software with the recorders they sell.)
Hand-held digital recorders. sm
Does anyone have anything to say about any particular model?  I am thinking along the lines of Olympus or Philips.  Thinking a docking device best.   Any comments?  Thanks!
No use Olympus recorders and post to ftp site-- all automatically
very little investment required in equipment. Just recorder and software. Why duplicate the Internet when it is free?
Should be voice to voice (talking), not transcribing. nm
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Radiology dictation....do any of your radiologists use handheld recorders anymore?
Or is it mainly phone and through the PC?  Thanks!
VDI call-in system sounds much better than digital recorders and easier tracking with redundant hard
You can hear a pin drop on this system. The sound is that clear. The system has a redundant hard drive and auditing capabilities. It has the capability to do everything but transcribe it. The better the sound file, the faster you can transcribe. I purchased a call-in system that used digital recorders, and the sound was so bad that I ordered this one the same day. I wasted $1200 on that system. Get the analog that uses a VDI SuperStation or C-phone (the C-phone is more clear). Even though the technology is not as new as the digital recorders, in this case it is better. Good luck!
I am not asking for a service, I AM the service looking for recorders
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Thank you: We need a voice...(nm)

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voice rec

Hi,


  I use it for my docs who get real wordy in history and physicals......it is accurate to a point, but you have to really proof it. 


Cindi


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Voice recognition
There's an ad on Mtjobs.com for editors for a voice recognition account. The company is called Focus Infomatics.

Voice recognition?
Hello, new to these boards and I have a question.

Is there a voice recognition software that will work for medical reports? I'm not sure how it would work, if it would actually translate the speech directly from the dictation you are listening to on your computer, or if you'd have to listen and speak it at the same time for the software to translate it?

I've been doing MT for about 3 years now and I'm developing hand/wrist pain, and I'm afraid my time in this profession may be running out. I really love this work and I'm hoping to find a way to make it work.

Dee

Voice recognition
Naturally Speaking v.8 works great if,

The digital voice recorder can deliver at 44.1 khz. However, these are .wma files and are HUGE!

The user takes the time to teach the software the nuances of his/her voice. This takes weeks.

The user knows how to punctuate. There are a lot of smart people that don't know where the hypen goes.

The user uses standard dictation commands ie. full stop, new paragraph ect.

If not, you end up with a blob if inaccurate info that's going to the MT for clean up.

If so, you end up with a relatively accurate doc that still should go to a MT for proofing.

IMHO, there's a lot of speech recognition software on shelves all around the world.

Brad
That too has now gone to voice recognition
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Does anyone use voice recognition to help them do their job?

Voice Recognition

After hearing about it for years, I finally did my first VR work a few days ago.  My fellow MTs, I think we have nothing to fear from this technology.  It will take years, probably a generation, before it is perfected enough to replace us.   I actually found it rather entertaining to edit - it just prints out exactly what it hears phonetically, including the instructions - "Go back up and add...."  


I think they should show some Voc Rec printouts and transcribed reports of the same dictations at all Medical Staff Meetings so  dictators can see just what we do in our job. 


Voice recognition
...I agree with your post Desertflour, but for a different reason. Medical language specialists should keep statistical analysis of what VR types and present it to administrators to show how much they are foolishly throwing their money away! By the time the MLS edits and corrects, it is almost like retying. Where's the savings?
Voice Recognition

I've done voice recognition in the Radiology department for a hospital for two years. I wasn't there when they first started using it, but I'm told the goal was for them to have only one Transcriptionist (editor). We're fully staffed now (actually today was my last day there - I'm working at MQ now) and let me tell you, those docs are not even close to being ready to solve their own problems and self correct. There is only one doc out of 17 that self corrects, and his reports don't look good at all.


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voice recognition
Could somebody tell me about voice recognition as far as transcriptionists using it?  How does that work?  I'm really interested.  I know that several years ago it was the talk, but I think everybody found out it was not very good or easy to train.  Are transcriptionists now using it to transcribe dictation? and how do they do this?
Voice Recognition
Voice Recognition (VR) software does require some change in discipline for the dictator. However, today's VR programs are much more intelligent than in years past (and not too past, either).

The key to successful VR is the "training" of the software for a particular user. Once that's done, the software can do a 95%+ job in accuracy. And, after correcting any errors, the software gets even more accurate.

I'm a speaker this weekend at the San Diego AAMT chapter meeting. I'm giving a talk on how VR can be used to make MT's more efficient. I think it's time more MT's took a serious look at letting VR help them get more work done more quickly. I have 3 MT's in my family, so it's not just the salesman in me speaking - I truly think you could get ahead of the game and negate your doctor's switching on their own ("Hey, Doc, I'm already using VR, so you don't have to go through the hassle"). And Dr.'s don't have time to be fooling around with software, training, corrections, etc.

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Voice Recognition
We're moving to use Packet8 VoIP service. We've been studying VoIP solutions for some time now, and I think they have the best program (we'll see when we begin testing it soon). Their calls use less bandwidth than Vonage, which we like. As for back-up phone lines, you can configure the Packet8 system to route calls to your cell phone (or another land line) if your Internet connection goes down. We like that feature particularly. We're on a fixed-price LD plan with SBC right now, so the LD savings aren't much, but for our toll-free line, we stand to save a bundle!
It is voice recognition...probably 2.5 cpl.
You edit what the system/computer puts out which could sometimes be nearly the entire thing for that amount per line! No fun!
Voice Recog
If anyone has a VRS would you let me know if it's worth the money and time? I had Dragon a year or two after it came out and was not too happy with it. I just wonder if there have been improvements. I probably won't use it for med trans but have an idea to use it for data entry which I also do. Thanks!
Yes, it was bad, but they can take an every horrible voice
and make it better in a recording. She does not have a horrible voice, just not the strong voice that she THINKS she has. It will be a lot better when released on a DVD, just watch and see.

TAYLOR ALL THE WAY TO WIN!!!
voice recognition just got

Some people have asked if it was possible to install Dragon on their system and then play the physician's dictation into the microphone. (wouldn't that be nice?) Well, things have moved that much closer to this happening.


There is a product called TranscriptionAID, which is sold by TranscriptionGear (click on link below). It is used in conjunction with DNS. I think the article is fairly self-explanatory.


Voice recognition
I tried it years ago and it was a joke.  I'm sure the technology has improved so I would like to know too.  I may have to look at it again.
EHR and voice recognition

I don't know about the EHR part, but I know the voice recognition part is not true.  Many doctors still do not like voice recognition from previous years when it was introduced, and many will never be able to use it.  Dictating so that it is understood by a computer program is a skill that many doctors will never have (or take the time to develop). 


Also, even if everyone did go to voice recognition, the work would still need to be edited.  I have used voice recognition in my work, and it takes a long time to train, and even then it gets confused because it cannot 'think.'  It also makes many errors that are hard to catch without very diligent proofreading.


 


Voice Recognition
Has anyone worked for a company that does voice recognition? Is it easy to get used to the software.  I have a job offer and would like some input.
Voice Recognition
I worked at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville and they had a pilot program for voice recognition.   Two transcriptionists spent their day editing and proofreading for a couple of doctors who had been hand picked for their clear English.   Around the time I left, the program was being scrapped due to too many bugs in the system, too time consuming for the transcriptionists and just not cost effective.   It's going to be a long time before they figure out how to make it work - thanks to foreign-speaking doctors
voice files
Yes, mine are emailed too.  They are usually .dvf or .wav files..  Call GearPlayer from that website I posted and ask if this is compatible for you.  If so then purchase it and call them back to be walked through downloading to your computer (I download to a folder named "Work to be Typed" by "Saving Target As." ) 
Voice Recognition & EMR
I am starting to be concerned about EMR and voice recognition taking our jobs.  I wonder if they will even need us in 5 years.  I know most hospitals tell everyone they will still need them as editors, but surely it will eliminate many jobs or they would not be willing to incur the expense of the new systems.  What do you think?
voice recognition
I think you will find this article interesting:

http://www.healthmgttech.com/archives/0205/0205is_speech.htm
VOICE RECOGNITION...
CHECK IT OUT! HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL MEAN A LITTLE MORE JOB SECURITY!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ

LOL!!!!


another voice in agreement with yours...
I've been doing this 13 years, some of it as a QA Editor (the only time I've ever heard of being promoted to a "higher position" yet making significantly less money...)and I agree with all of the above. My favorite is when you put in for a raise and get ignored, time and again, even though you are called a high producer and put on difficult accounts because you "do so well on them". Also, voice recognition is going to destroy this profession entirely probably sooner than later. It's all changing completely. I finally decided I'd had enough and went back to college a couple years ago to change professions entirely. In a year and a half, I'll have my new degree and be done with MT forever and it will probably be the happiest day of my life.
Voice Recognition

What can anyone tell me about VR? I have never used it, but I am about to start working for a company that does.  Thx!


voice recognition, if you know of any (sm)
companies who just do ERs please share. Thanks!!
You can also tell from the name on the voice file. sm
The files are named sequentially, lowest to highest. That should also help you to detemine which ones are the "oldest".
Voice recognition
Am I the only one out here that feels VR is cheating us out of money for the same skills? I'm ENRAGED!
As in voice recog?
My company uses this and my hands LOVE ME.  We get paid editing rate for VR jobs or basically 1 line VR=1/2 line MT.  BUT I make more money here than I did at old job.  If you can read fast and are good at editing it's great.  Today for example in 8 hours I edited over 2450 lines plus did 200 MT lines which equals 1427 lines at MT pay.  Plus as we all know, typing all day hurts the fingers and editing VR once the docs get up and running is so much easier on them.  Good luck!
D/l them onto zip file and take with you. Voice
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