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See hurricane board for ways to help N.O.area animals. NM

Posted By: Ollie Woo on 2005-09-19
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Any medical centers in hurricane area need help?

How can we find out and how can we help?


PA - Pittsburgh area is one locale, Philadelphia area also.
TriState area - PA, NJ, DE.
Hurricane Wilma

We were in Cancun when Wilma hit.  Cancun will be quite some time before it is what it was pre Wilma.  Currently, the Myan Riveria is in pretty good shape.  Word is Cancun has 2/3 of the rooms open and beaches are still being worked on and dredging the ocean for sand to replace and of course, the major loss of greenery in plants and forest.  Cozemel still does not have beachs, pools, or much else for that matter even now.


You can view some pix pre, during and after Wilma here:  http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLandingSignin.jsp?Uc=6ater84.xr3iv10&Uy=62dqnx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0


Squirrels Benefits from hurricane
As I type this morning, I have been watching, fascinated, two little squirrels in my garden.  I have two pecan trees which were full and heavy before Hurricane Rita.  Before the storm I watched them precariously edge on thin heavy branches to get to the pecans and then scamper from tree to tree back to their nest, where ever that may be (beyond my vision into the trees).  Today, it is just as funny to watch them try to gather all the fallen pecans.  They dash from spot to spot gathering and burying these nuts.  They don't even seem worried about my cat and dog as they usually are.  What a joy to work at home and be able to enjoy something like this.
Bringing up hurricane discussion

Just for some other information.  When Hurricane Rita hit in Texas, i.e. Jasper, Beaumont area, these people were not prepared.  They were not prepared because hurricanes do not come in that far inland.  The Jasper area is one of the areas where most hurricane victims evacuate too.  There are people in that area that are still without power including elderly people and children.  Most of the surrounding areas (Pineland, Rosevine, Hemphill) are retirement areas.  These are also low income areas as well.  These people definitely would not have expected the hurricane to effect them in the way that it did, but it did.


 


Also, people in Lufkin and Nacogdoches, Texas were effected from it as well.  Again, a hurricane never has come close to these areas and these areas are also where evacuees come.  During the time we had evacuees from Galveston, Beaumont, Houston, and still the ones we had from Louisiana drained the resources that we did have here (not saying anything negative by this – just a statement).  None of the businesses could get trucks in to deliver gas, food, ice, water, etc.  When we did get gas delivered, the lines were so long that people were waiting 9-10 hours to get gas and of course by the time most got up there, it was gone again.  This went on for several days.  Even the Wal-Mart here and in Nacogdoches was only able to be open a few hours a day and for the first few days after the hurricane because of the amount of extra people in these areas, they finally had to limit the number of people they were allowing in the store at a time.


 


Some of you say, people should be prepared.  I do agree and especially more so if you live in a coastal area.  However, these people affected in the areas I mentioned above do not live on the coast; however, were heavily impacted by this natural disaster.  You are saying these people don't deserver help?!  Well let me tell you this.  When we had a lot of LA evacuees here, FEMA stepped in and for a lot (not all of course) they received $2000.00 for help with housing, another $600.00 for food, and there $400.00 for something else (honestly do not remember what it was).


 


However, my mother and father-in-law who are elderly went 14 days without power, lost everything in the freezer and refrigerator, and they are also raising 2 of their grandchildren (both young teenagers).  They were unable to get FEMA to help with anything. 


 


I guess the point is this.  Before spouting off about who needs to do what or who the government does or does not need to help (or where you tax monies go), you might want to think about the fact that this was a natural disaster and therefore, no one can ever really be prepared for one.  I hope none of you ever have to deal with anything like this.  It is not a pretty site in this area right now.  Clean up is still going on.  There are still trees down on houses and cars.  How would you feel if this were you? 


 


By the way, yes I do feel that my family was very lucky to come through it unscathed; however, some were not so lucky.


 


Just my 2 cents.


Height of hurricane season is Aug-Oct. (SM)
A friend booked a FL vacation during September. Told her don't do it.  She still did.  She had to cancel the entire vacation and "could not believe a hurricane hit."  I always told family/friends to never go anywhere in the Atlantic, Gulf, FL, islands during hurricane season but they book it anyway because it's cheaper, then they complain about hurricanes ruined their plans.  DUH!
Oreck!! The BEST! & Hurricane Katrina
They are a company in New Orleans, I believe, and in chatting with their reps, they said how much their company was flattened by Katrina. I ordered mine right after the hurricane - had to wait a bit, but SO worth it. I have since learned that most hotels use Orecks for cleaning - they are AMAZING. Only wish I had one years ago...And yes, the little one is awesome, too!! I look forward to vacuuming - sick, huh?!
No, unless a hurricane is on its way, the Olympics are on, or news like today's. nm
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Just stay away from Florida during hurricane season. nm
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http://www.gonzalescofc.com/hurricane.html
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thinking of going to Cancun. Did the hurricane hit it too hard?

1 hurricane in 30 years or every year. I'd take Texas :)
Just kidding with u but I have been to Florida..... Talk about illegals! woweee. Not saying all over, just where I have been. See...... generalizations help no one. If you don't live there, you do not know so please consider your response. And, yes I was actually raised in Pasadena/Houston TX area and NO WAY would I want to live there again. :)
The trees are the main concern in a hurricane (sm)
the lake didn't even get close to the house during that supposed "100-year flood" in 1993 (not allison, the other one).  We went to the other side of Houston for Rita, came back the next day.  It was a mess with limbs all over but no trees down on our property.  Next-door neighbor had 3 down.  We've decided for the next one, we will stay in the garage and hope no trees fall on the house.
Is Hurricane Dennis affecting anyone's work today?
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Figure out a way to stop a freakin' category 5 hurricane?
This was a NATURAL disaster, hello! How do you stop a 175 mph powerhouse? You don't..you just get out of the way.
Hurricane Rita just upgraded to Category 5 with winds of 165 mph
I hope everyone from TX stays safe. Learn from Katrina.
People die and lose everything on a daily basis, not just hurricane
victims. I wish people would stop insinuating that everyone in the country who is getting on with their own lives is selfish or uncaring.
The political people knew what could happen if a hurricane hit New Orleans. sm
after 9/11 they diverted the money for the war.  One should not take money from one project to do another.  This tragedy didn't make any sense and there are some people on the political board that says its the mayor fault.  What a joke.
Alaskan Malamute like 2nd child - "Cane" - short for Hurricane.
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For all the animals out there
Suffering, with this video they showed us what they're going through.  I feel it won't be long before this information becomes mainstream and I think the majority of people who see it won't stand for it, people who have more power than us who can take strong action.  I'm glad there are so many of us out there who care this much here on  this board! 
Different for animals?
Is ophthalmology different for animals? How many Veterinary Ophthalmogists are there around? Do dogs wear contacts? Just curious.
If you are a visitor wanting to turn the Hurricane Katrina disaster into politics, take it to the
Politics forums.  Do not post on the Main board.  Administrator
Tryin to book a vacation. Does anyone know when hurricane seasons starts and ends? Nm
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heat and animals
Thank you for keeping your animals inside.  I do too.  I have three dogs, four cats and two birds and they are right by my side. I do take the dogs out in the morning and hose them down, then they come into the house (what a mess..no biggie, I can clean it up, ya know?). 
Animals need help in New Orleans
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Anybody want to help the animals in New Orleans, just go to the below link and check out what you can do, many many displaced animals there that need your help.

https://www.bestfriends.org/donate/index.cfm
Leave the animals alone

And what would happen if man wasnt on the earth to keep the population of animals under control?  Nature would take care of itself..Man puts its hands into things and screws up time and time again..Leave the animals alone, they will handle the population.  There is enough meat in every grocery store..more than enough..leave the living, breathing, beautiful animals alone..They were not put here for us to kill or amuse ourselves with..they are sharing the earth with us.they want to live just like we want to live..Leave the animals alone.


LEAVE THE ANIMALS ALONE
Very well said, abc, I totally agree with you. Leave the animals alone.
NO !! they do NOT test on animals.
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please read if you care about animals....

A friend of mine gave me a video about 4 years ago about factory farming and the fur trade and where our meat supply comes from. Please to to Farm Sanctuary on the web for videos, books, more info. But that video turned me into a vegetarian that moment! I have always loved animals, but some reason never made the connection. They feel pain like we do. They are thinking beings as well and know when they are going to slaughter. Each vegetarian saves 80 ANIMALS A YEAR. It is appalling the way these animals are treated not to mention the chemicals and food they are fattened up with during their short lives... this is going into YOUR food chain. Sorry to get on my soap box... but I feel very passionately about this cause. If you are interested, please  research it further. The videos are extremely hard to watch, but that's the point --- it wakes you up! Harm no thing. Thanks for reading. Please don't bother blasting me if you disagree. It is my opinion. It will not change. You do not have to agree.


Shoot, my animals are all cute.

My dog will jump on her hind legs and "box" with you by smacking your hands with her front paws.


My cat likes to go berserk inside cardboard boxes.  He also perches on my desk and dips his paws in my betta bowl.  Then he climbs all the way up the screen door and yowls if I'm outside.  Typical cat behavior, I guess, but this is my first kitty so it's funny.  He's a loverboy, too.  He crawls up on me, sticks his head under my hair, chews my hair, bites my neck, purrs and goes to sleep.


I cannot use Mary Kay because they test on animals - sm
But I do use Estee Lauder and Oil of Olay. I consulted three dermatologists on getting Botox and they all said no way for me because I have no WRINKLES around my eyes or forehead ... at 39 years of age!
Animals have more rights than babies do!
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Feeling a little sad for you "as they are about animals"

Instead of at least quietly agreeing (or disagreeing) that this action was awful you chose to attack the poster.  Don't understand why you felt you had to do it.  I too am sickened by abortion, child abuse and neglect.  I am also saddened that man's best friend could by the thousands be killed like that.  I am not saying that it rates up there with abortion in my mind, but gosh, that was an undeniably cruel thing and it certainly causes me to give pause. 


Feeling a little sad for you "as they are about animals"

Instead of at least quietly agreeing (or disagreeing) that this action was awful you chose to attack the poster.  Don't understand why you felt you had to do it.  I too am sickened by abortion, child abuse and neglect.  I am also saddened that man's best friend could by the thousands be killed like that.  I am not saying that it rates up there with abortion in my mind, but gosh, that was an undeniably cruel thing and it certainly causes me to give pause. 


I think keeping animals caged
or "boxed in" and this includes, birds, snakes, turtles, and yes, keeping cats inside a house for their entire life cheats them of being able to live in their natural environment and doing what comes naturally to their species. Their exercise is greatly reduced and so is their instinctive behavior to feed, hunt or whatever it is they do. How would you like to live inside a box for your entire life? Just my opinion, you are entitled to yours.
Yes, they're all indoor animals...sm
The 4 cats they brought when we got married stay downstairs in the basement and my stepdaughter's room down there, and the rest of the animals are upstairs. Needless to say, we'll be looking for a larger house soon!
General liabilty and E&O are two different animals.
I used to sell insurance. General liability protects your companies assets when something you do causes harm to either a person or property. E&O, aka professional liability, aka Errors & Omissions comes into play when you make a mistake and/or omit something and thereby cause financial harm to your client. I can't see the need for an independent MT to carry either of these - unless you're like the one who has the government contracts. You can get a small GL only policy from Hartford for about $400 a year and they are the only ones who will write those. The E&O is closer to the $5k a year range (or more) and there is no need to do that - not when all of our work is sent through the MTSO's QA people. The MTSO holds the burden for that.
Oh my Gosh - WEGMANS has cruelty to animals??
That is the only place I will do my grocery shopping - I haven't seen the video yet, but please say it isn't soooo. There are only a few Wegmans - Where will I goooooo??!!!?!?
anyone have animals cute/quirky habits?
I live next to a manufactured lake, and there are dozens of ducks and birds hanging around there.  My dog usually likes to go up to them or chase them.  He also loves people, runs up to them too, very friendly and can be generally laid back.  Although, when he comes across a stray feather lying on the ground, he will literally approach it like a mouse would a mouse trap, and then jump back about two or three feet, and then veer as far away around it as possible.  This has been going on for a couple months, no idea why.  Today, I picked up a feather and set him on my lap and brought it close to him and said "its okay" and right when I touched him with it, he squirmed, almost flipped completely in the air, and tore himself loose from his collar and ran far away from me (never does that anytime, sticks to me like glue), so now he walks around the lake like its a mine field, jumps and wimpers even if he touches a feather.  The strangest thing in the world to me. 
And where exactly do you think that the meat in the grocery store comes from?? ANIMALS!
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One of my daughter's soft stuffed animals....
when she's not looking!! It's a soft little pink elephant, not scratchy at all.
I already do pray. But why not spirits? Animals are more sensitive, you know
nm
Being a mother, I couldn't tolerate animals
walking around infected with rabies that would be a threat to my family, because as much as I love animals, my family is still my priority. On the other hand though, no they shouldn't be clubbed to death and killed even if not infected. This is China though, and they have no respect for most people...much less animals. It's sad, but unfortunately the way it is. :(
God gave us dominion over animals for beginners. sm
Good or bad snake, if it's in my house, it's a goner. If you don't like it, then sue me lady. Your statements are foolish and uneducated. And you're the one who probably believes that snakes have feelings. Give me a break. Good Lord!
just an observation about this "as they are about animals" poster
She uses "thang" and "ya" just like Kikki. Just wondering if she's baaaaack . . .
no, kill animals that are carrying the epidemic
to save the humans. Sorry if you don't agree with that.
Shock collars are cruel on animals.
You can teach dogs not to bark without using shock treatments.


People (& animals, too) will work harder to get
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I heard you get lung cancer by eating animals.
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I don't watch fear factor. They abuse animals. I also have better
stuff to do with my time then watch someone eat pig intestines.
sorry, you are assigning human logic/emotions to animals...
seal mothers do not go nearly insane with fear and pain as they watch their babies being clubbed to death in front of them. - you've got to be kidding. Animals are incapable of the complexities of logic and emotion to get to that conclusion. If you want something to be frantic about, go to Africa and see the abandoned newborn infants piled in chicken wire crates in the hospital. Let's get priorities in order and no, a boy is not a dog or a pig or a rat.