I was just giving figures from what they said.
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Dont' burn me for that.
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Palin, the candidate that just keeps giving and giving...
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That figures. (sm)
So that means you have chosen to disrespect the moderator’s rules and come here (now suddenly on purpose) when you choose to, but you still post things such as: “Well, really, you ain’t supposed to be here and don’t tell me you’re a moderate conservative cause I ain’t buying it. <<<<<Liberal board's that way...if you can stay awake more than five minutes there” when a liberal visits your board? Figures. Fits perfectly in line with the rules only applying to some and not others.
I can’t believe you wrote *I understand that some of the terrorists may have worked or dealt with the UAE, but they did not carry out any attacks through them* and act as if that’s okay. The Kool-Aid must be especially tasty today.
Do I advocate racial profiling? I advocate historical profiling. Historically, they were tight with bin Laden before, and there is nothing to suggest they don’t have the capacity to be tight with him again.
In short, the REAL kind of profiling I would endorse is limiting this kind of deal countries who has NEVER had ties to terror in the past.
You may consider the below too long to read. I’ve bolded and underlined the important points in case you give up after the first 3 words. I truly feel that Dubya is selling out every American’s safety for money, and I don’t understand how you, as an American, can support or trust this. Of course, you do obviousy still trust and support Bush, so that explains a lot.
Considered an ally now, UAE backed bin Laden
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
February 23, 2006
The United Arab Emirates has become what the Bush administration calls a reliable partner in the war against Islamic terrorists, but its rulers maintained close ties to Osama bin Laden before September 11, and the cities of Abu Dhabi and Dubai have since served as operations and financial bases for al Qaeda terrorists.
But the United Arab Emirates, the most Western of Persian Gulf nations, also has become the United States' closest military ally in the region. Its ruling emirs permit Navy warships to dock in the bustling commercial center of Dubai on lengthy liberty calls. It also hosts U.S. Air Force warplanes, refueling jets and spy planes at the sprawling Al Dhafra air base near Abu Dhabi. The base sits across the gulf from U.S. adversary Iran.
During the Clinton administration, the United States even considered killing bin Laden when he was on a hunting expedition but did not because one of his hunting partners was one of the United Arab Emirates' emirs.
They have been helpful and supportive and a good partner in the fight against terrorism, said a U.S. counterterrorism official.
It is these two faces of the Arab nation -- a one-time sympathizer of al Qaeda, yet strong post-September 11 U.S. partner -- that Washington is considering in the debate over the Bush administration's proposal to let United Arab Emirates company Dubai Ports World run six large U.S. seaports.
The U.S. September 11 commission's report is replete with accounts of some of the 19 hijackers -- two of whom came from the United Arab Emirates -- using Dubai's permissive banking system and lax passport certification to gain entry into the United States and bankroll a mission that killed more than 3,000 people.
During bin Laden's stay in Afghanistan -- where he built terror training camps, a personal army and a financial network -- some of the United Arab Emirates' upper crust, known as emirs, visited him. The United Arab Emirates was one of only a handful of countries that recognized the harsh Taliban regime, bin Laden's protector.
In 1999, bin Laden spent time in the Afghan desert south of Kandahar near the Sheik Ali hunting camp. It was regularly used by visitors from the United Arab Emirates, according to the September 11 commission report. U.S. intelligence detected an official United Arab Emirates government airplane there on at least one occasion.
According to reporting from the tribals, bin Laden regularly went from his adjacent camp to the larger camp where he visited the Emiratis, according to the report.
In fact, the presence of the United Arab Emirates rulers at the camp gave the Clinton administration second thoughts about ordering an air strike to kill bin Laden, more than two years before the attack on the United States.
According to CIA and defense officials, policy-makers were concerned about the danger that a strike would kill an Emirati prince or other senior officials who might be with bin Laden or close by, the commission said. The Clinton administration was so concerned about the emirates' cozy ties to bin Laden that one official called a United Arab Emirates political leader to complain.
Weeks later, the camp was dismantled, and bin Laden disappeared. The implication was clear: Someone in the United Arab Emirates tipped off bin Laden, the United States' most-wanted fugitive, who then was planning the September 11 attacks.
The United Arab Emirates was becoming both a valued counterterrorism ally of the United States and a persistent counterterrorism problem the commission wrote. It said President Clinton personally pressed United Arab Emirates leaders to break financial and travel ties with the Taliban, but they refused.
Hamdan bin Zayid, United Arab Emirates foreign minister, told a U.S. diplomat that his country maintains relations with the Taliban to counterbalance Iranian dangers.
Those dangers are one reason that the United Arab Emirates stands as the United States' best military ally in the Gulf, opening key parts of its country for U.S. operations.
Its Mina Jebel Ali port, the largest man-made harbor in the world, hosts more U.S. warships than any other rest stop outside the United States. CIA and FBI agents collect intelligence there on militant Islam. The United Arab Emirates has cooperated with the U.S. Treasury Department in shutting down bank accounts linked to al Qaeda.
The United Arab Emirates is a country that's been an ally in the global war on terror, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said on the Michael Reagan radio show this week. We have a port there where they help us. They have an airfield. We share intelligence, and we have a partnership that has been very, very helpful to the things we do in that part of the world.
Figures, please? Thanks. nm
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Figures....nm
Figures.
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sorry where did you get those figures?
It cost 43.5 million for Bush's inauguration
reported yesterday in new stories
i will find the link if I must
Here's some figures
It doesn't take away from what you said of people voting for him because of his skin color and not qualifications, but doing some research I found these facts interesting and now I don't feel so bad (of course this is not down to the exact number but only what is on the statistics through the internet).
Population in USA 303,824,640
# people who voted for President Obama - 69,456,897
# people who voted for Sen. McCain - 59,934,814
# of people under the voting ages - 60,764,928
That means that 113,668,001 did not vote at all. So if you put the people who didn't vote, and the people who voted for McCain together that means that
# people who voted for Obama - 69,456,897
# of people who did not vote for Obama - 173,602,815
Kind of puts things in a better perspective.
With all due respect....way off on figures...
Abortion in the United States - Statistics
There have been over 48 million abortions since 1973.
The annual number of abortions went from 744,600 in the first year of legalization, to a high of over 1.6 million in 1990. In 2003, there were 1,287,000.
There were over 3,500 abortions per day in 2003, 146 per hour, about one every 25 seconds.
For every 1,000 live births, there were 312 abortions in 2003.
There were more than 148,000 second and third trimester abortions in 2003. (that is appalling)
In 2003, more children died from abortion than Americans died in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World Wars I and II, the Korean, Vietnam and Gulf Wars combined (This is a true statement, even if you go only by the CDC number of 853,000 plus (the million plus is the AGI numbers...contributed by all abortionists. The CDC readily admits their numbers are probably way off due to reporting mechanisms). The total number of Americans killed in all wars was 653,708. Add the 3192 killed in Iraq so far and you get roughly 657,000. So, in one year alone more babies died than all Americans in all wars. That 653,000 figure includes the Spanish-American war, indian wars, etc. ALL American wars.
A 2004 survey of women seeking abortions indicated that only about 7% of women cited typical “hard cases” (rape, incest, or some health concern with either the baby or the mother) as the primary reason they were seeking abortion.
An April 2004 Zogby Poll found that 56% of respondents support legal abortion in only three or fewer circumstances: when the pregnancy results from rape or incest, or when it threatens the life of the mother.
At an average cost of $372, the abortion business is a $400 million a year industry.
Nearly half of all abortions are obtained by women who have already had at least one abortion.
(The good news is that the number of abortions is going down. However, it will take several MORE wars to come close to the number of babies killed by abortion in this country.)
It was estimated back in 2003 that at that point over 48 million babies had been aborted in this country. How you can say you are okay with that and slam me because I say a country has a right to defend itself is beyond me. I have no more to do with the war thanyou do with abortions, yet you think it is inconsistent to be against abortion but for defense. By the same token, I think it is inconsistent to say you are against abortion but for giving the woman the right to kill the child. I frankly see no difference in your position than mine.
The Civil War...the bloodiest of all the wars...was that one worth fighting? WWI? WWII? The Revolutionary War? Surely that one was worth fighting...so is it some wars are worth fighting? Some aren't? I don't know what wars you feel are justified or if you feel none are justified....I don't know if you would feel fighting was worth it if we were attacked again like 9-11....of if you feel it is ok to fight in Afghanistan....or what you would have us do if they flew over and dropped bombs on NY? I just don't know. What I do know is that many more thousands of babies have died than Americans in wars, and as long as all abortion is legal we will continue as a country to kill babies at a horrifying rate, war or no war. And yes, the thought of that is sickening to me. No war...yet the numbers dying are HORRIFIC. Where is your outrage about that? Justified in the name of choice? Yep....I don't get it...and am glad I don't.
What I also know is that we have not had to fight any wars other than the Civil War on our own soil, and I believe that is because we have taken the fight to the enemy rather than wait for the enemy to come to us.
Don't want to fight with you, piglet...I still feel that someone needs to speak for the babies. You speak for the mothers. They have many to speak for them. Some of us believe we need to speak for the babies. And I will continue to do so.
Figures the people who are for Ono are for this
I received a message from an Obama supporter who tried to justify why its a good thing to vote early. Makes me wonder if it was going in favor of McCain would you all be in favor of this? No. This is an outrage to be able to register and vote at the same time. So if I want to do that, lets see, I'll go to my county and do that, then I'll drive to the next county, and the next and next and next and keep doing this so I can keep voting for McCain like some of the democrats will be doing. Oh no, that's not fair. Truth be known this has been the democrats operandi in the past. I have never seen such a big bunch of cheaters ever. They don't care if they cheat as long as their guy wins.
This is not right. If you can't vote in your state then you do an absentee ballot. Or will you be doing one of those also. America's election day is November 4th.
If you feel so strongly about voting you would find a way to legitimately vote on 11/4. Wonder how many other fraudulent votes will they find. At least the rupublicans are smart and are trying to verify how many of those new voter registers names and addresses are linked to the local cemeteries.
I agree! Here are some figures.
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
14 reasons why we need to get control of illegal immigration:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for welfare social services by the American taxpayers.
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries.
12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.”
It figures - a liberal station
Here are ALL the figures in case anyone is interested...
First---100% of southern Republicans...consisted of ONE senator. When one senator votes against something, yeah, that is 100%. Sheesh. Take a look at ALL the figures.
Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X at the United States Capitol on March 26, 1964. Both men had come to hear the Senate debate on the bill.Johnson, who wanted the bill passed as soon as possible, ensured that the bill would be quickly considered by the Senate. Normally, the bill would have been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator James O. Eastland, from Mississippi. Under Eastland's care, it seemed impossible that the bill would reach the Senate floor. Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield took a novel approach to prevent the bill from being relegated to Judiciary Committee limbo. Having initially waived a second reading of the bill, which would have led to it being immediately referred to Judiciary, Mansfield gave the bill a second reading on February 26, 1964, and then proposed, in the absence of precedent for instances when a second reading did not immediately follow the first, that the bill bypass the Judiciary Committee and immediately be sent to the Senate floor for debate. Although this parliamentary move led to a brief filibuster, the senators eventually let it pass, preferring to concentrate their resistance on passage of the bill itself. The bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964.
Shortly thereafter, the bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73-27, and quickly passed through the House-Senate conference committee, which adopted the Senate version of the bill. The conference bill was passed by both houses of Congress, and was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964. Legend has it that as he put down his pen Johnson told an aide, We have lost the South for a generation.[2]
[edit] Vote totals
Totals are in "Yes-No" format:
The original House version: 290-130 (69%-31%)
The Senate version: 73-27 (73%-27%)
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126 (70%-30%)
[edit] By party
The original House version:
Democratic Party: 153-96 (64%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
The Senate version:
Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)
[edit] By party and region
Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)
Yes, I agree that things change. And the Democratic party got interested in African Americans AFTER they got the vote. Coincidence? I think not.
Figures McCain would pull something like this
Well I guess he saw how well it worked with the HC supporters (most giving their opinion that we need a woman in there, we are voting cos its time for a woman, etc, etc and some only voting for her only because she's a woman). Guess he's so concerned with losing he'll stoop to anything. Talk about calling the kettle black. He proclaims Obama doesn't have the experience and he's young and new, and then he picks her? She's not ready to step in as President, she doesn't have any experience whatsoever. He's going to have a hard time explaining that one.
Again it goes to show McCain is not in touch with the American people. He picks a woman thinking that what all the women want, but luckily the women who supported Hillary are coming out saying we supported Hillary because of her position and viewpoints, not just because she was a women. I just believe he has just lost any chance to win.
She has no international experience, been governer less than 2 years and has no experience at anything. Guess he's making it perfectly clear he wants a running mate who will never question him. His ego is taking over and its going to sink him. He'll need the Swift Boat Veterans to fish him out of the water. Never mind her radical christian viewpoints. Everything he's been attacking Obama for being, he has just picked a running mate who is all that. How could he have gotten it so wrong? Any chance I had of electing him flew out the window with that pick.
Brother...he would have been better to choose Hillary as a running mate. Hello President Obama.
All you have to do is look at the figures and when they started declining....
and 20 months is about right. This democratically controlled congress sat on their hands even when Greenspan was telling them they needed to tighten up on Freddie and fannie. Instead they made their hold on the housing market even bigger.
They failed to act to do anything about rising cost of fuel, went on freaking vacation rather than vote on energy bill. Not only do we need to vote in McCain/Palin, we need to clean up that viper pit that is Congress and finally start acting like adults and work together to clean up that viper pit. Only one candidate is talking about that, and it isn't yours.
If you don't have any figures to back up your statement....
just say so. Of all the catholic priests in this country, I have no idea what percentage have turned out to be sexual predators, but I am unwilling, without figures, to say it is disproporinately high.
Now in this post you have amended your position from disproproportinately high to a "little bit fishy."
Big difference in disproportionately high and "a little bit fishy." I think blindness refers more to an attitude which wants to ssume "disproportionately high" without some proof of that statement.
That is all I am saying.
The figures taken were from the US Treasury's website
Whether you want to believe it or not this info comes directly from the US Treasury website. You can't make up the figures no matter what political party you belong to.
I know lots of people were in love with Clinton and thought him to be a good president. I too voted for him the first time (after 2 months realized his agenda and got the heck out of the democrat party), but figures don't lie. I guess you didn't finish reading it because you didn't like that it favored the Clinton.
I just go by the facts and I don't care who it favors. I am one of the very few who want to know truth and would like some decent politicians.
Unfortunately we don't have any decent politicians - not one, nada.
They are all liars and crooks and thieves. It's just how they all spin everything.
As for Global warming? If you believe in that I guess you still believe the world is flat. That has been debunked by top scientist. Don't people get that. Scientists...people who have degrees. People who have studied climatology. People who are educated. They all say the earth is in a cooling trend, not warming. AL Gore has not studied this. He wrote a book filled with lies and misinformation and everyone who felt he was cheated out of the president (which even though I was against Bush know this isn't true), but feel sorry for the guy fine, but don't buy into his fantasies (just like he invented the internet and he and Tipper were the role models for the guy who wrote Love Story). Al Gore is a megalomaniac. You know, just cos your ice cube melts faster in your drink doesn't mean this is global warming. If it's global warming tell me then can you dispute these news articles:
Headline: Arab world shivers in unusual cold snap
Jordan's airport shut down by ice, other nations shiver as well - see link below
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22782918/
Headline: Anectodotal cold weather news from around the world - There continues to be a number of reports of colder than normal weather and seasons from around the globe. Here are a few. - see link below
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/08/16/anecdotal-cold-weather-news-from-around-the-world/
Headline: Brrr! State braces for unusual cold - see link below
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/04/18/news/doc4808db9f73005670297734.txt
Headline: Unusual cold weather strains Argentina’s energy grid - see link below
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/12-07-2007/94848-cold_weather_argentina-0
Headline - Karachi shivers in unusual cold snap - see link below
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/970965-pakistan-degrees
Those are just a few. You have got to open your eyes and look at things objectively. Al Gore knows absolutely crapola about global warming. He has an agenda. He's becoming richer and richer off of the whole thing. He is benefitting from people buying "carbon credits". He invested big time in the company and gets kickbacks from all the suckers who believe it.
P.S. - I am certainly not going to take any advice telling me I have to cut back on energy when their driving around in SUVs, limos, fuel eating buses, and who knows how many planes.
All public figures are scrutinized, especially
presidents because they supposedly represent we, the people. It's not just O that is being scrutinized. Past presidents were too, along with movie stars, sports figures, you name it. If you have a big name, are in the public eye, you will have your life spread all over the media.
Do you have more recent figures, and what is this source, if you do not mind? and..
and again, if you will actually read my posts before attacking, I said we had more social programs than others...I would also like to know if they are comparing apples to apples...meaning countries the same size as ours with the same population as ours. You also quoted from 2001. I am sure the number of people in worst-off houses increased...they probably had more children. Does not make sense to me to have more children when you are already struggling to feed those you have. But that is what the welfare system in this country encourages. When you have second and third generation families on welfare, there is something WRONG with the system. Again...read what I actually post and then come with your rebuttal, and come with a rebuttal that has substance and not cut and paste from some old statistics (probably Wikipedia, right?).
Moores facts/figures from US info
This same old argument was brought up on Oprah when Moore, a lobbyiest for insurance companies and a professor who is for universal healthcare for all were on her show. In fact, they even invited CEOs/representatives from the top insurance companies but none would even talk to Lisa Ling. Moore stated, once again, that his figures/facts come directly from the US figures/facts and the facts used to argue against him come from insurance company facts. He stated to go to his web site and the information would be there.
I sit back and laugh..if a republican had thought up universal healthcare or was a pioneer on global warming, the right wing would be behind it 100% but since these are essentially positions hardworking thinking caring democrats back, the radical right wing is going to fight these issues no matter what.
I dont care if you call it socialized medicine, which is a knee jerk response..just what is socialized medicine? What the Congress has? Then give it to me. I most certainly would rather have a universal healthplan, backed by our government, than no insurance at all. To me it is a no brainer. I would rather have a little bit of medical care and medicines than no medical care and no medicines.
Your figures just further validate Taiga's post.
She said, "Actually the vote went by geography rather than party lines as is obvious below." Your figures support that statement.
Obviously you didn't read the whole article. Figures....sm
That's why I usually use non-Fox links, so the demmies will "try" to read with open mind....lol....or maybe not.....whatever.....ciao
Figures. Eventually, there's name calling from you. Twice. You must be proud. nm
Yeah, figures that Hollywood is almost all democrat
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O's plan is WELFARE, figures you dems want that
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Figures....if you can't address the problem...deflect.
What possible difference does what Bush did make? That was then, this is now. We are in a huge financial crisis (largely brought on by Democrats in congress blissfully ignoring the looming housing crisis and the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle...yet you want to trust them now that we are up to our eyeballs drowning in debt with more on the way). Bush did not spend a much in 8 years as Obama has spent in...oh wait...how many WEEKS? Good grief!!!!! Don't you even WONDER how he possibly hopes to recoup all this?
Gracious enough to grant him more time? To do WHAT? Triple my taxes about the time the economy straightens out? If you think taxing the "rich" will fix this...get out your calculator and try again.
Look...I don't want to fight with anyone, but I do not understand the total blindless being exhibited here, when the microscope was used to examine Bush. Take that same microscope and start examining Obama...if you can.
Well, I guess she figures if whichever cheating...
husband Republican used state funds to meet his mistress she could use federal funds to shop. I'm sure in the world of politics that seems fair tit for tat. LOL!! Sigh.
If we are going to investigate everybody why aren't we investigating John Edwards to see if he used campaign funds to meet his mistress? How do we know for sure Bill wasn't using tax funds...well heck, he WAS. We were paying him to run the country, not have leave stains on Monica's dress. Geeez!! lol.
Stomp and whine then stick your hand out.........figures.........nm
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Asked for proof, suddenly she's too busy. LOL. Figures. nm
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Not true. This is the latest poll, figures submitted just today. nm
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what are you giving up?
What are some things that you and/or your family are giving up due to the high price of gas and now the rise in food prices? My family - just me and my husband now - buy 2 large packs of water at Sam's every 2 weeks and drink this, sometimes getting some crystal light or something to put in it. We eat a meal once a week and that's it. Needless to say - we are both losing weight. But to fill up his truck - that's $100 a week - even though he only works 3 days a week now - and I work at home - so I only go out twice a month - to a dr. appointment and then the second time to get the water.
I'm giving up
It is so hard to have a positive outlook on society anymore. I think I should have been born about 100 years ago. This country has no more morals, all people care about is political correctness and not stepping on anyone's toes. The God of this nation has been pushed out, and people want to know why kids are shooting each other. We have become so pompous we think we can take care of ourselves. I want to live in a time when women respected their bodies and didn't just give it up to anyone. Where rapist were few and far between because they would be hanged if caught. They couldn't wiggle their way out of the judicial system on a technicality. Where we didn't need welfare because neighbor helped neighbor and everyone worked hard and worked together. Where there wasn't an obesity problem because kids played outside from after school until "the street lamp came on". Where people knew God and had a relationship with him. Where "love thy neighbor" was not just a commandment, but an action.
At 22 years old, I wonder if there will be an USA when I'm 40? Is it possible for our nation to survive at the rapid rate of decline we are experiencing for 18 more years? I used to pray to Jesus to wait to come, knowing it was selfish, because I knew so many people who didn't know his love and were not saved, including my own parents, and it killed me to think that we may be separated eternally because of that. Now I just can't help but to pray that He comes soon. All these movies about a post apocalyptic United States don't seem so far fetched now, minus all the zombies that is. We have to wake up. We need to fall to our knees and beg God for forgiveness and beg him to come back to our nation. If you don't believe in Him or want to scoff at me for saying this, I am so sorry. I am so sorry that you do not know the love of Christ. I just hope you get to know Him before it's to late.
God help us.
Not particularly.....just giving
the board a good lookover before I go lie down.
Too many with no b*lls giving in to a few who believe
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For all those that think O is giving you a tax cut.....what
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You are giving her credit for something
she will NEVER do. She will never unite the party. She will only go on and on and on until it is impossible for a democrat to win this year, making McCain the president. All she wants is to be president, and if Obama gets in there, she will have to wait until 2016 when she'll be going on age 68. She doesn't care about the country or the democratic party. All she cares about is power, not about anything but HER and Bill. Sad, but the truth.
Um, excuse me, since when did giving
intelligent, well thought-out replies and giving one's opinion constitute bullying?
Gimme a break. Sam has every right to be here and she brings a lot to this board. Maybe if those who bash follow her lead in effective posting, the atmosphere here would be shall I say more of a good debate than a circus?
No, he's just giving them HOPE. Something that
Get used to it. She's the story that just keeps on giving
there will be plenty more where that comes from.
Why are you being so mean to everyone giving the O in Obama a bad name!
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I am giving him a chance and I
know that this isn't a quick fix. I'm realistic enough to know Obama cannot wave a magic wand and make this all go away. I'm just saying that for a man who hasnt' been pres for a whole week......he has made a lot of promises already with 2 already broken. I'm not trying to get a lynching mob together. I just want to stay informed of what my president and the government is doing because I refuse to just assume they are making the right decisions. Holy crap people.....seriously! Xanax....try some.
You mean too many with brains giving in.
There is a big difference between intelligence and lack of cahones.
AIG - the gift that keeps on giving. sm
Beginning with the first bailout under the Bush administration, and accelerating apace (which one wouldn't have thought possible) under Obama, the ineptitude in dealing with every aspect of the current economic problems is simpy staggering.
This ineptitude includes both Presidents, both Treasury secretaries, the man who was/is Fed chairman under both Presidents(Bernanke), Congress, and regulatory agencies such as the SEC and FDIC.
Consider this interesting little fact: It has taken six months for the Ethics Committee to investigate some fairly simple charges of financial misconduct by Charlie Rangel, but Congress can pass three major bills, two of which were so large they couldn't be read by anyone, in a matter of a few days (and in the case of the third bill which unconstitutionally taxes AIG bonuses, in just one day).
My dear friends, this country is in trouble. The government is behaving impulsively and has, in my long life, never before been in such a state of disarray. Our response to the financial crisis is beginning to look like nothing so exquisitely as a Chinese fire drill.
We are apparently determined to prove to the world that we're going to make a pig's breakfast out of this crisis, but hey...at least we did it fast!
Impulsive and reckless government - THAT is what the American people (and the world) are seeing, and THAT is what I believe is beginning to frighten us even more than the economic crisis itself.
No, the administrator is not giving me any information, nor would I ask. sm
I made a rejoiner when you once again accused me of something I didn't do (see above posts). Have you got all the meat off this bone yet!
Very sad. Our soldiers are giving their lives....sm
and they are coming home severly injured to less than adequate medical care after excellent care in the field, no psychological counseling, no support for their families, deplorable living conditions, and on and on. I believe this war is wrong but support the troops 100%. Disgraceful!
Okay, now those of who make $50,000 are giving to those who won't work
Every year at tax time, I have to pay more taxes, more taxes, more taxes. Every year at tax time, my friends and family members who make less than me get back these huge checks of 3, 4, and 5 thousand dollars because of earned income - did they earn that money? No, it is coming out of our checks to give to them. Can't ya'll see that is the way it works now, but it is not just the people with a lot of money giving it? It is us - the middle class!
First of all, there is nothing wrong with giving money...sm
to an organization to get out the vote. The trouble is there was no oversight by ACORN to ensure that the registrations to vote were legit.
Not ignorant, just giving a truism. nm
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I don't agree with not giving them the bailout.
I think part of the problem is that now the foreign car makers who have plants here want a piece of the pie if the big 3 get it. I think that's what is turning them off.
They should never have started this bailout crap. I was against it from the start. But do our lawmakers listen to us? Nope. They should have held a special election and let the people vote on it.
I think we need to start throwing out the guys who are not listening to their constiuents. A good wake up call might just straighten these jerks up.
Sorry, I don't feel like giving him a break.
He has trampled the Constitution, declared himself to be the "decider," started a war in a country that did nothing to provoke it, run this country into the ground while making his good friends on Wall Street richer. And let's not forget his "boss," D*ck Cheney. (Well I'll be danged, I had to take the "i" out of his name as when I went to submit the post it said it was a bad word.) LOL Bush had his chance at a "break." I gave him 2 thumbs up after his speech following 9/11 and he blew it and that was just the beginning of his blowing everything that he came in contact with. Sorry...Bush has already had his break from me and he gets no more. I'd be happy to buy him a 1 way bus ticket back to Texas myself....assuming Texas wants him, which I seriously doubt.
Obama I will give a break and if he doesn't hold up to what he has said he will do I'll be all over him like ugly on an ape all over this board and any other one I can find.
So giving tax breaks & loopholes to the
ultra-wealthy top few percent & the corporations, and incentives to offshore, (the republican way), thereby putting us in the economic crisis that we're in right now & during the Great Depression is really a great plan that works so well... NOT. It took a Democrat to un-do the republican mess during the Great Depression, and it's going to take a Democrat now to un-do Bush's economic nightmare he's created for us. Time and time again, every republican creates a recession and/or depression, and we have a thriving economy under Democrats, and I can understand corporations and ultra-rich people voting republican, but I have no respect for any working person who votes republican because they're just not bothering to pay attention. And thanks a lot for the Bush nightmare by the way.
She should be giving interview and she is most certainly is not "whining"
I don't agree with you on this one. I just watched different news stations and all say pretty much the same thing. They are saying at least she is not playing the victim like HC did with her phony crying episodes and the poor me they're picking on me because blah, blah, blah.
Gov. Palin should be giving interviews (just like Kerry and Edwards did after the last election). The public also deserves the right to know how she was treated. Whether you like her or not the truth is she was treated most unfairly and disrespectfully. She's not whining about it. In fact time and time again she has said she has a tough skin and you don't make it in politics by having a thin skin. You take the rolls with the punches and you just keep going. She said it takes a lot more than what has been dealt to her to make her want to quit. You can't let yourself get beaten down. Did she do well during the Couric interview? No she did not. I heard a news reporter on MSNBC say afterward that to be totally fair you could see she was quite nervous. Were there questions she should have known the answer to, you bet there was, but in all fairness she should have never agreed to be interviewed by Katie Couric, who was most definitely one out to destroy her. There are plenty of reporters who are fair that could have treated her respectfully. Katie Couric did not and Katie Couric even admitted to meeting with someone to "bone up" on how to make an interviewee look bad. Did the news media treat her unfairly through the election. Most certainly. And they are still doing it. Did they treat the democrat woman (HC) differently than the republican woman (SP) you bet. I watched it every day. Is Caroline Kennedy being treated differently, My gosh do you even have to ask that question? Caroline Kennedy (whom the media is calling Princess Caroline) is being treated like royalty by the media. I don't know why because the Kennedy's are not royalty. But the media has always treated them that way. We all know that if Gov. Palin was running on the democrat ticket she would have been treated with grace and dignity. The media is in love with the democratic party and have wanted to destroy the republicans for a long time (Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, CNN, etc). They had their hay-day and had a blast doing it, while at the same time poo-pooing the poor me, everyone is picking on us routine. I think it's time America deserved the truth. I'm not saying the media lost the election for the republicans because they didn't. John McCain/GOP did that all by themselves himself (and without the help of Sarah Palin). But the media's love affair with Barack and the democrats were so blatanly obvious it was sickening. I watched the interviews. Never did I see Barack or Hillary get the kind of questions they gave to McCain and Palin and it was so obvious after awhile I just lost interest. Which by the way it was interesting to see the media never interviewed Biden or covered him the way they did Palin. The news media knew not to interview the next VP because he would certainly say something that would screw up their chances, but yet they went after the republican VP candidate. So once again another display of how unfairly the media treated certain people.
I will most definitely watch the interview. I think Sarah Palin is a fine person and I hope to see more of her, but in honesty after what the political rape of Sarah Palin and what the media and public has done to her and her family I wouldn't blame her not going through the witch hunt/inquisition again.
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