A little sugar makes lemonade....waiting patiently for
Posted By: 2012. on 2009-01-23
In Reply to: People sucking lemons hate Obama. - Happy Camper
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To be fair, I am waitING and watchING, I have not made up my mind at all about who is the best candidate. Joe says, "talkin", "What am I talkin about?" Spirited debate about "real" issues coming up. One has to have a professional presence at all times. I want the best person representing America who is educated, honest, with a breadth and depth of experience. Why she would ever use "Joe six-pack" to represent the working people or avoid important issues, I don't know. She certainly should know better if she is going to represent my country and its future dialect with the rest of the world. Why does anyone have to go to "debate camp" to make it? Rambling idiot(s)and/or barracudas may show up tonight -- we shall see!! I hope God is in the room! I hope He is also in this room, as a high level of respect expected here as well for all of us. Our future is in His hands, and there is only ONE of Him, may we find him now.
am waiting patiently for the
bamaknockers to make reference to Barack's planned mode of transportation -- come on now, haters, getting lazy? is it the s-o-u-l train with Don Cornelius at the stick?
Republicans will rise from the ashes of the Obama years....waiting patiently.
What the sugar daddy giveth, the sugar daddy can taketh away.
Israel could NEVER carry out any of this without the constant infusion of US tax dollars that has been shipped to them ever since 1949. Rense seems to think it amounts to about 3 trillion dollars.
nine times..waiting..waiting..sigh..waiting
Still waiting for the NINE OTHER TIMES I HAVE CALLED YOU A BIGOT..Please post them..Otherwise you are a liar.
Lemonade out of
I didn't say he was ENTIRELY responsible. However, when analyzing the situation, I start with a very basic question...who stood to gain and who lost from the meltdown? More importantly, who is left standing in its aftermath? As it stands now, CEOs and the offending, unregulated corporations and institutions are making out like bandits and we are footing the bill. I want somebody to DO something about that and to take measures to prevent it from happening again.
The first 75% of that administration was controlled by pubs. 75 vs 25 is easy math...and as you have pointed out, since it is shared by both parties, then that 25 is split fairly evenly between the 2 parties. AT least, that seems to be the way that current voters are calclating this one. FM/FM is only a symptom of a far deeper problems and let me put it to you this way....pubs are not terribly notorious on regulation and control of lending institutions, banks, the stock markets, CEOs, corporations and the like. I am aware of FM/FM and am not blind, but pubs seem to overlook the regulation vs deregulation elephant in the room that stems from a fundamentally flawed concept that is a cornerstone of their party platform.
The balance has to do with contrasting Obama with Bush's assault on the judiciary, his runaway veto pen and flagrant disregard for congressional and Senate checks that don't suit him. You can make no such claims about Obama, seeing has how he has not abused power in such a blatant, well documented fashion. Obama promotes restoring the judicial discretion that Bush attempted to decimate.
Here's another thing to consider. IF the dems get a supermajority and the presidency....it will be by popular mandate...and a reflection of our democratic process that allows us to achieve REVOLUTION within a legal and organized context. Should that happen, the dems will AUTOMATICALLY be in a position to exercise moderation under the leadership of a president who is all about unity and bipartisanship. If they do not make good on these basic campaign promises, they will be in big trouble in 2012...something that Obama supporters are keenly aware of. There is no absolute control. There is, however, a 3-branch constitutional government that is designed to be representative of the people who vote their leaders into office.
So what part of guns in schools do you think is a good idea? Securing the safety of school children threatens your 2nd Amendment rights, how? Guns don't belong in schools...in the hands of children OR teachers. Guns are currently barred in federal buildings. Don't notice any hoo-ha over that....only Obama's audacity to suggest that we should protect our children at least as much as we do our federal employees. Your argument about gun control is absurd. Like I said, it would take a constitutional amendment to take that away from you....and with everything else he has to say grace over, I seriously doubt that a President Obama would be making a constitutional challenge his first priority.
He patiently sat with O'Reilly
I don;t think he should have done that. To pretend that Fox is actually a news outlet does the voters a disservice. But hey, that;s the kind of guy he is.
Obama = Sugar
Try adding a little respect for Obama to your lemons, and you may just have lemonade!
Well sugar, it becomes anti-Semitic the minute
you use Hitler to illustrate your point. This "occupation" you speak if simply a myth created and perpetuated by the Palestinians. Aside from the history I posted below, allow me to post more on the subject of "occupation."
The Jewish perspective on Palestine was that with proper development there would be room for all. Many of the early settlers were Labor Zionists and they identified with the poor Arab fellahin. In 1920, David Ben Gurion (who would later declare the State of Israel and become its first Prime Minister) stated: "under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them... Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price."
Thus the focus was on the purchase of uncultivated lands, often swamps or barren sand dunes, and with no tenants (e.g. the Hula valley, Tel Aviv).
In 1930, John Hope Simpson (chair of the Hope Simpson Commission) noted that Jews "paid high prices for land, and in addition they paid to certain occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay." (P. 51, Hope Simpson report)
The next year, after Arab cries about being dispossessed from their land, Lewis French led a British effort to provide land to Arabs that had been displaced. Of the 3,000 applications received, 80% were determined to be invalid. Ultimately, only about 100 landless Arabs were offered alternative plots. (from French's Supplementary Report submitted to the Palestine Royal Commission.)
In 1936 the Peel Commission arrived on the scene. From its PRC report (p. 242): "much of the land now carrying orange groves were sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased.... there was at the time... little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land."
The vast majority of Jewish owned lands had been uncultivated, often thought to be uncultivatable. Jews, who comprised roughly a third of the population, only held 11% of the land that was defined as "arable." The Peel Commission found that any land shortage was "due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population."
This increase far exceeded population increases in neighboring countries and, not surprisingly, took place in areas where development by Jews was at work. While Jewish immigration was regulated, restricted, and at times totally forbidden by the British, scores of thousands of Arabs crossed into Palestine from miles and miles of poorly patrolled land borders.
So this was the glorious country of Palestine that the Palestinians (most of them great, great grandchildren of those who live there now) talk about. Most of their ancestors were immigrants, brought to Palestine between WWI and II by the British at the request of the other Arab countries who promised them cheap oil if they helped. They did. In the meantime, Jews had started settling there and building up the land.
The myth that the area was thriving prior to Jewish development is false. It had its moments, but alternated between desert and malaria infested swamps. So much for the claim that the land had been held, or at least worked if not owned by a family, for "generations." Plots were changed "annually."
Thus, while most people who don't know the history of Israel, think Jews stole the land, they are very much mistaken. It was purchased. Israeli land was developed into orange groves from swamps, from sand dunes into cities. And now, the Palestinians who hadn't the least interest in that land until the Jews developed it. wanted it. While the Israeli population increased slowly, the Arab population increased ten-fold both from immigration and very large families huddled into poor neighborhoods. Instead of building infrastructure, US aid was pocketed by Arafat and other Palestinian leaders to increase their bank accounts and to wage wars.
Arafat himself was no Palestinian. Like most Palestinians he was also an immigrant; an Egyptian. After the UN partitioned Palestine, and declared Israel a state, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, armed to the teeth, declared war on Israel. Though Israel had few weapons, and no help from any other country, they won the 1948 War of Independence. The Arabs have waged 5 wars on Israel, and lost all of them. In addition there have been many multi-terrorist attacks. Though won in bloody battles, Israel was forced to return the West Bank, most of Jerusalem, the Sinai and other territories which they gained with their lives in wars that the Arabs started.
That's the story. Most of you know the rest. The Intifada, the suicide bombers, the constant attacks of Arabs on Israeli settlements, the canons from the Golan Heights, which, rained down on Jewish kibbutzes, (farms) and the theft of all the money supplied by the US to Palestine which enriched Arafat's pockets and is now in the hands of his young late wife and a Swiss bank. To blind the people as to what he was doing (stealing American money) Arafat ( a terrorist himself who in his younger days blew up Jewish children's school buses) encouraged Arab Palestinians to terrorize the Israelis. Arafat continued his terrorism from Jordan and Lebanon (two Arab countries), and was kicked out of both for causing anarchy and chaos. He returned to Palestine, and more terrorist groups formed and developed, most under his directive.
Palestinian groups that support and carry out acts of political violence include Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, - General Command, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Abu Nidal Organization, all of which are officially listed as terrorist organizations by the United States and the European Union. Until 1993, the PLO was also listed as a terrorist group, but in 1988 Arafat renounced violence. (duh) Didn't happen. The PLO Charter's full text of this infamous document negates Israel's right to exist and calls for its destruction through violence. Peace Watch has explained, the PLO's vote on April 24, 1996 did not satisfy its legal obligation to amend the charter.
Terrorism was picked up by other Arab countries. Now it goes on around the Arab world.
No problem, sugar. Vote him into office. I'm sure the nation will
I highly doubt this man will make any difference. He's certainly eloquent and able to hypnotize the masses with his line of BS though. If only words solved problems.
Speak patiently, answer their questions, teach nm
They've already spoken about TAXING sugar, which means.....
ANYTHING with sugar in it (which is tons) will automatically see a price increase!! Now, for all those that think Obama is NOT gonna tax them, just you hide and watch. We told you you weren't gonna get a free ride with Obama...that you too would be taxed to death! It's always those led blindly that think Obama wouldn't dare tax them, they don't make $250K a year!
How foolish they are!
Where are the posts..SM..still waiting....and waiting...
Still waiting.....SM..when have I ever called you a bigot..Show the proof..Bigot is not a word I throw around easily or frequently, so if there are posts here with my handle stating bigotry, I WANT TO SEE THEM..Still waiting............and waiting..........and waiting.........and waiting.........where are the posts? Show them or forever been labeled a neocon liar..
The waiting
Waiting
Still waiting...
but you said Michelle Obama does not talk like a black woman? Again, how do black women talk?
waiting for it.....waiting....waiting...
when is this supposed to break for all of us to know about?
Sure and I'm waiting for it just like you.
Problem is, it ain't gonna happen. There's no magic wand. There are too many things in a heckofamess and nobody can fix it. It will take years and as long as the government keeps in-fighting, it will be the same old, same old, just like it's been for the past 20 years or so.
Still waiting...........
I'm stll waiting for all those Obama lovers who said yes, Obama WOULD make all those wonderful tax cuts for us, to stand up and admit he's a joke! He LIED, plain and simple. Of course, we told them he would not make these tax cuts but oh no, their precious Obama would NEVER lie. Now, they'll say it's the economy. He knew the economy was slowing when he kept making those promises. Sorry, you can't use the economy as an excuse. Of course, Obama knows if he DID make those tax cuts for those he promised it to, he would then be a REPUBLICAN! ROFL!
I'm waiting..... sm
Okay, I do agree with you on some points. This is what I see...
I used to be a democrat and I used to be a republican and I used to be an independent, and I used to be a green party/constitutional party. What I see is this...the whole thing is a mess, all over. Plenty of blame to go around. What I see is, Obama inherited one big huge fat mess. No way to disprove that. Its fact (IMHO). I'm not blaming Obama for any of this and I believe he wants to do what is best and try and pull the country up. With that said....he doesn't "run the country". He is not the grand pubah in charge making decisions, he just gets to tell the American people in a nice and calming way "your screwed". He has a way about him that he can say your screwed and the country will be fine with it. Just the way it is and I am thankful we have a leader who is a calming reassurance to the people. However, with that said...congress/house (don't know which it is), just all those politicians that stand up and make decisions and vote on issues. Those are the people I blame, and last I knew we have had a democratic congress for that last two years. I will no way blame everything on just the dems because the pubs had a fair share in it too. But it's time to stop blaming everything on the pubs because they were not in charge of making all the decisions. They were not in charge of the FM/FM crisis. How long has Pelosi been in? Reid? Dodd? Franks? Conyers? and yes I can think of pubs too but those are the first ones that come to mind and who are on the top of the decision making tree. I take offense (well not really offense, but it is unfair and one-sided) for people to post obviously far left or far right media-wh@re articles blaming all those rich white ugly republicans when they don't take any of the blame themselves. There's enough blame to go around and for every far left article theres a far right one too.
I will stand by what I say...the republicans don't need anything to bring down the dems. They are doing a fine job of it and approval ratings are falling like a lead weight.
Waiting must be something
that happens on the coasts in really high-population areas. Here in 'flyover country' (the midwest) I've never waited more than a week for a mammo appointment and 3 days for the followup ultrasound when the mammo found a cyst. And I've gone through the followup ultrasound routine three times now.
I keep waiting and waiting for
the free stuff to start flowing to me, but I am simply not being stimulated by any of this. Is there an application I can fill out...or something?
I keep waiting and waiting for
the free stuff to start flowing to me, but I am simply not being stimulated by any of this. Still got a house payment. Still buying my own gasoline. Grocery store still charging me the regular rate for food. Is there an application I have to fill out for all the freebies...or something?
I'm waiting on the answer to this one too. sm
That's the problem with SOME bible thumpers. They make things up as they go.
Still waiting..where is the post?
Still waiting....tick-tock..tick-tock..still waiting..where, pray tell, is the post where I said ALL republicans are liars? Still waiting..sigh..
Still waiting, Carla. ???
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They are waiting in the wind for the day...sm
to bring the Lords of the Talking Loud and Saying Nothing back full swing.
This was a good read.
Won't be waiting around for your standard
nm
How many reporters were waiting for
Iraq/Afghanistan? How many liberal reporters followed O around Europe, putting him on a pedestal for the whole world? Biased reporting, not even a doubt. JM & SP still rising above it. Maybe there is something to this Christianity thing after all. I suspect that a lot of us uneducated, unscientific, believers in creationism, simple-minded people who know what our future holds, are praying for them daily.
What is it that you're waiting for him to say?
nm
I am waiting for your answer...
Here is the question again.
Keith Olbermann is a graduate of Cornell University...and you are a graduate of what?
Why are you afraid to answer this question?
We are still waiting for one pub to articulate
nm
We are still waiting for that source
nm
I'm waiting........big talker
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I was waiting for this question
Sorry I couldn't get back on sooner - swamped with work.
Okay who I think he should have picked.....
1. Anyone other than HRC.
2. Gov. Bill Richardson.
3. Sen. John Kerry.
4. Hundreds of other qualified people - NOT HRC.
Anybody but her- A-N-Y O-N-E BUT HER!!!!! We've got a country of how many million people. Shirley there was someone else.
She is a deceitful, lying, kniving, disrespectful, dishonest, sneaky, revenge-seeking, immoral humanoid. She does not respect Obama and she will undermine him any chance she gets. I heard people say she couldn't even negotiate peace within her own campaign staff. She is too decisive and bullheaded to lead the Dept of State. She will undermine him at any chance she is given trying to make him fail so she can just waltz in and take over. Anyone who goes against them (Bill & Hillary) they turn on them in a mean and nasty way and tries to ruin their careers (remember what they did to Gov. Richardson when he didn't support Hillary - they tried to destroy him politically).
I am so very disappointed and upset. This just sucks! First he fills the WH with Clinton hang-overs and now he rubs salt in the wound and picks her!!!!!
Gov. Richardson would be my first choice. Richardson and Obama have a good relationship together. They work well together. The only one billary works for is herself. You really think she's going to take orders from Obama. Heck no!!!! She wants to be the almighty empowered one. If Obama directs her to do something he's going to have to look over his shouler all the time (remember the threats she talked about during the primaries). My god!!! what is the man thinking.
Obama is showing himself to be weak and a liar with every day that passes. Change????? Tell me where the heck is the change he promised us all. It's all Clinton people and now Clintons!!!!!! You know for a fact they had some deal worked out. Maybe because she didn't push the birth certificate issue he promised her a high office position. Is he really that stupid??????? I guess so!
This has raised the doubts in so many people's minds about his ability to lead.
You know for once forget Bush (not you personally and by no means am I aiming this at you because I know you just asked who I thought would be a good choice - I'm just throwing this out in the air), so forget Bush, he will be out of there but for 16 years we have not had a decent president (20 if you count Bush Sr.). Obama came along and promised everyone "change". Change? Bull-ogney. He is not making any changes. He's bring back the old stooges. "Hope". He is giving us nothing to hope for. He hasn't even taken office and by the people he's picking this administration is going to be on a downward spiral very very quickly. There is no change and no hope. And he doesn't care. He's in, now he can break all his campaign promises as fast as Bill Clinton did as soon as he took office.
There are so many many people who are qualified for the SoS job. NOT HER!!!!!!
We've had 16+ years of crap and now we've got another 4 to "look forward to". From now on I will hear the news off of the internet or come here, but from now on the TV is staying off!!
I'm still hopefully the birth certificate issue will not allow him to pass. DH told me today that the Kenyan president is saying Obama was born in the hospital in Kenya, and because his mother was under age, he was not registered as an American. He's still a foreign citizen. And they are creating a statue there in Kenya to honor him with. Imagine that. The United States will have the first Kenyan man to be President. But if anyone with their right mind stops this, maybe then Biden will then become president and he can pick some decent people to fill the white house with.
You know I don't hate Barack by all means (I voted for him in the primaries), but I have become so disgusted with the whole situation and what he is doing. The WH is going to earn the same disgusting reputation it got when Clinton was in office and when Bush continued on. Personally there is no difference. Different faces but same policies.
I don't mean to dump, but I am so highly disgusted and disappointed with the whole situation that my blood pressure rises. Funny how someone can be proud enough to serve in the Armed Forces and 20 years later be totally ashamed to tell anyone I an American.
Man do I hate politics!!!
Waiting for true debate
personal attacks continue, but debate eludes you.
Tick tock. I'm waiting, too.
Still waiting for that bounce from the perky one.
nm
you will be waiting for a long time
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I'm still waiting for ONE Obama supporter on this
The news that he intentionally hid the 800K plus he donated to ACORN. His camp has admitted to it but said it was an "oversight".....yea, right! Obama knew what ACORN is mostly all about and he's all for that........ya know, voter fraud?!!! I'm still waiting for someone to post a fact to refute that statement made by his own spokesperson. Where is it? So many underhanded, deviant, illegal characters he has contact with......this is a dem that will NOT be voting for him.
Still waiting for that source. In the meantime,
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
They're waiting for those freebies.....
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Still waiting for those O lovers to refute any of this
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No, I'm still waiting for your answer - see message
You acused me of making racist statements way before I posted the message you are talking about. Try again. I'm still waiting to know what posts you were referring to where I made racist statements you accused me of. As far as Michelle Obama...she's one classy lady. That's all I have to say about her!
Stardust - still waiting for your apology.
It's been close to a day. After my challenge to you I waited a few hours and nothing. You couldn't find one of my posts where you acused me of racist comments. I knew you wouldn't find one because it's not in my nature and I'm sure by now you know I am a black woman. So after a few hours I re-posted and within the half hour you came back and said see, there your comment about Michelle Obama.
My answer to you was that you accused me before I made that comment. Besides there was nothing racist about the comment I made about Michelle Obama and the way you stereotype how you think us black folk should talk and therefore assumed I was white.
So you know you were wrong yet no apology. That just goes to show me you are a racist yourself. I have no more time for this.
Don't hold your breath waiting.
He already said that he can't do everything at once. "It may take a year, it may take 2 years, it may even take the first term to do it all, but it will be done".
I'm waiting for any alternatives....what do you suggest?...
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I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about s/m
about where poster got those grossly inflated statistics. But, as usual, you're just more interested in deflecting the truth by attacking a Canadian news article. Not surprised -- par for the course for you people.
So you're actually waiting to see what kind of job he
What a quaint idea! Maybe others on this board will try it. (NOT!)
Waiting to get blown up...from a soldiers mouth..sm
BAGHDAD, July 26 Army Staff Sgt. Jose Sixtos considered the simple question about morale for more than an hour. But not until his convoy of armored Humvees had finally rumbled back into the Baghdad military base, and the soldiers emptied the ammunition from their machine guns, and passed off the bomb-detecting robot to another patrol, did he turn around in his seat and give his answer.
Think of what you hate most about your job. Then think of doing what you hate most for five straight hours, every single day, sometimes twice a day, in 120-degree heat, he said. Then ask how morale is.
Frustrated? You have no idea, he said.
As President Bush plans to deploy more troops in Baghdad, U.S. soldiers who have been patrolling the capital for months describe a deadly and infuriating mission in which the enemy is elusive and success hard to find. Each day, convoys of Humvees and Bradley Fighting Vehicles leave Forward Operating Base Falcon in southern Baghdad with the goal of stopping violence between warring Iraqi religious sects, training the Iraqi army and police to take over the duty, and reporting back on the availability of basic services for Iraqi civilians.
But some soldiers in the 2nd Battalion, 6th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division -- interviewed over four days on base and on patrols -- say they have grown increasingly disillusioned about their ability to quell the violence and their reason for fighting. The battalion of more than 750 people arrived in Baghdad from Kuwait in March, and since then, six soldiers have been killed and 21 wounded.
It sucks. Honestly, it just feels like we're driving around waiting to get blown up. That's the most honest answer I could give you, said Spec. Tim Ivey, 28, of San Antonio, a muscular former backup fullback for Baylor University. You lose a couple friends and it gets hard.
No one wants to be here, you know, no one is truly enthused about what we do, said Sgt. Christopher Dugger, the squad leader. We were excited, but then it just wears on you -- there's only so much you can take. Like me, personally, I want to fight in a war like World War II. I want to fight an enemy. And this, out here, he said, motioning around the scorched sand-and-gravel base, the rows of Humvees and barracks, toward the trash-strewn streets of Baghdad outside, there is no enemy, it's a faceless enemy. He's out there, but he's hiding.
We're trained as an Army to fight and destroy the enemy and then take over, added Dugger, 26, of
Reno, Nev. But I don't think we're trained enough to push along a country, and that's what we're actually doing out here.
It's frustrating, but we are definitely a help to these people, he said. I'm out here with the guys that I know so well, and I couldn't picture myself being anywhere else.
'Never-Ending Battle'
After a five-hour patrol on Saturday through southern Baghdad neighborhoods, soldiers from the 1st Platoon sat on wooden benches in an enclosed porch outside their barracks. Faces flushed and dirty from the grit and a beating sun, they smoked cigarettes and tossed them at a rusted can that said Butts.
The commanders in Baghdad and the Pentagon are looking at the big picture all the time, but for us, we don't see no big picture, it's just always another bomb out here, said Spec. Joshua Steffey, 24, of Asheville, N.C. The company's commanding officer, Capt. Douglas A. DiCenzo of Plymouth, N.H., and his gunner, Spec. Robert E. Blair of Ocala, Fla., were killed by a roadside bomb in May.
Steffey said he wished somebody would explain to us, 'Hey, this is what we're working for.' With a stream of expletives, he said he could not care less if Iraq's free or if they're a democracy.
I mean, if you compare the casualty count from this war to, say, World War II, you know obviously it doesn't even compare, Fulcher said. But World War II, the big picture was clear -- you know you're fighting because somebody was trying to take over the world, basically. This is like, what did we invade here for?
How did it become, 'Well, now we have to rebuild this place from the ground up'? Fulcher asked.
He kept talking. They say we're here and we've given them freedom, but really what is that? You know, what is freedom? You've got kids here who can't go to school. You've got people here who don't have jobs anymore. You've got people here who don't have power, he said. You know, so yeah, they've got freedom now, but when they didn't have freedom, everybody had a job.
Steffey got up to leave the porch and go to bed.
You know, the point is we've lost too many Americans here already, we're committed now. So whatever the [expletive] end-state is, whatever it is, we need to achieve it -- that way they didn't die for nothing, he said. We're far too deep in this now....
Hmmm....I am waiting to see who McCain chooses as VP...
because, all politics aside...he is not looking good (McCain). I mean, besides the fact that he is an older person, he just looks unhealthy to me. Does anyone know what happens if after he officially gets the nomination and names a VP...if for health reasons or something he could not continue...does the VP move to the top spot to run for Prez and name another VP? God forbid anything happens to him...don't wish that on ANYONE, but just curious.
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