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Posted By: Democrat on 2005-10-14
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TY! But I only post what I deeply feel, jeez, no one is even giving President O a chance, and rewri
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I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.
The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
Did you see the point of my post?
These "techniques" are used everywhere. I am sure we will also see them in the RNC this week. This son can go ahead and say this about anyone and we are just supposed to buy that it is all communist related? He could have other reasons for putting Obama's name in there, maybe he is just trying to stir up trouble, maybe Obama is a closeted communist - who knows. I just don't think he proved anything by this letter, because these are "techniques" I have seen in many different events.
And the point of your post is....(sm)
to show what a "good little christian" you are?  What? No Bible verses? No holier than thou sayings? No threats of he11?
You might want to get with your twin, Patty. I hear she has some reptiles ready for the handling. You need a tune up.
Please point out a confrontational post. sm
Every post I have made has been to try and bring harmony to this board. A sense of balance. One need not push the envelope very far with you or gt to have a hateful, venomous response. You might want to get some insight into your behavior.
your post proved my point
My post has turned out to be a right winger nothing to attack GT fall back on that post thingy, LOL, so funny. I love it. Anway, isnt hell and burning in hell where xtians say we all go when we commit crimes, break the ten commandments? Well, that is what I wish for this administration and Bush and his family. It is obvious that is where they are headed when standing in judgment for this war. But, hey, I get it, the old right wingy thingy, do as I say, not as I do. The xtians can spout all the time about burning in hell but if a liberal says it, oopphhss..the worst thing in the world. Right winger, Coulter can say liberals ought to be shot and publish plagerized books full of lies, but hey, she is a right winger, its okay, right winger, Robertson, can call for the assassination of a duly elected leader, but hey, he is a right winger, its okay. Right wingers equals a bunch of hypocrites... Anyway, your post to me proves my point of attacking and ranting and raving from the right wing. *BIG HUG to ya*.
Thank you for this post - loved it and to the point.
As a Deist myself I find you are right on!
I am so tired of arguing with the closed minded religious nutbags (my sister who newly turned mormon is the worst to talk to - she is so closed minded). The christians always have an answer for everything and they won't listen to the truth.
They also haven't researched who our founding fathers were and what they went through because of what they believed. I think Thomas Paine probably got it the worst. They were the most brilliant men in our history and I'm sure they are rolling over in their grave everytime they hear someone saying our founding fathers were christians or the country was founded on Christianity. Reminds me of when I was watching the O'Reilly factor (who is catholic) and he was trying to tell some Jewish guy that Catholics invented marriage. Luckily the Jewish guest called him on it.
You are absolutely right on - they were NOT christians. They were Deists. Beleiving in a creator does not make one a christian.
Thanks for the post!
You missed the point of the post
I don't care what happened back in June, July or whenever. You just confirmed what I had said in my post and it sounds like you want some "pay back" for whatever you think you want it for. Who knows, and I don't care. My point I was making was I'd like to see positive posts. I'd like to see true discussions about the candidate you favor and why you favor them or don't favor them (and facts to back up your approval or disapproval). Over the past week I've seen hateful posts not only to Sam but to others who don't agree (whether it's for Obama or McCain). All I'm asking is the board to go back to what it was originally meant for...not a "fight club".
actually, Sam dear, the point of this post
who would have voted for McCaine will despise her once they know what she actually stands for
I too don't understand the point of this post
I'm not sure if you are trying to insinuate if Obama had anything to do with this. Tragedies happen and whether you are for or aganst someone trying to link them because they went to the same church to me seems absurd. That would be about the same as trying to link Tom Cruise to the Heavens Gate murders. It's an awful tragedy that happened for whatever reason. There are a lot of people filled with hate these days. Even DH and I were saying last night about the little girl in Texas that was murdered, how can someone actually have the mind to do something horrendous like that. But if your trying to link Obama to this, even though I don't support him I think this is quite far fetched and sounds like your trying to stir up something that isn't there.
You could probably take every murder that occurred and tie it in to something. When it is just a horrible horrible tragedy.
Your post illustrates the point....and I don't know.....
where you were when all the hoohah about the Bush administration doing it was going on...the liberal left wing media (which includes virtually every news outlet in the world except Fox, but Fox covered it too) had a field day with it..."more lies, more deception" yada yada...it WAS a VERY big deal in the eyes of the liberal left. But now that their uuberliberal godhead is doing it...hey, its no big deal...Bush did it. Y'know, I got the impression during the campaign that the big O would rather eat DIRT than do ANYthing Bush had done. LOL...well...how the worm has turned. Orrrrr are you saying that in retrospect, since now that your hero has done it, maybe it wasn't sooooo bad when Bush did it? LOL. Priceless!!
true, your post has nothing inside it. Your point please?
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Good post. I think you made your point!
Go McCain/Palin 2008
You dont get her point? I do! Was a great post!
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you missed the point of the original post
The supreme court has not ordered him to produce the original; they are simply reviewing the lower court's ruling regarding Berg bringing the suit in the first place. There is no order to produce the document. This is simply a measure that Berg and the other attorneys requesting the writ are now hoping will bring pressure on the electors to force them to demand the document be presented. But at this point there is no order to produce.
Applauding! What a great post, to the point and well written.
I don't think some people realize the seriousness of the illegally invading a sovereign nation for what is truthfully nothing more than regime change, after being dishonest to the entire world about the true reasons for invading this country.
If/when it happens, they still won't get it. And if/when more Americans are killed by terrorists because this president was too stubborn to care about America first and refused to implement most suggestions of the 9/11 Commission, the ones who survive the next terror attack will still be kneeling down and kissing his boots because they are preprogrammed to believe this man can do nothing wrong.
Please point out one post on this board where a poster agreed with
as you claim, "examining the adoption records of Roberts, casting aspersions that his 4-year-old son is gay, that HE is gay (Roberts) because he didn't marry until he was 40."
Please. Just one poster who said on this board that they agree with that.
You've proven that you're not here to debate. You're here to keep the fighting going. You were asked by Democrat to introduce a topic to debate. But you're too obsessed on trashing liberal posters. That's the only topic you've ever mentioned on this board 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. Look at your posts. They're still here. That's the total extent of them, whining and complaining about the posts of liberals. There isn't ONE post on this board from you regarding an ISSUE.
Thank you for answering her post with a liberal talking point. :-) nm
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A racial post shooting the finger. Must be a conservative thing. Point this out.
I just read the thread and don't know what the heck you guys are talking about.
Sounds like you are all just trying to be disagreeable, no wait that's why you continue to post on the LIBERAL board. I see, that's the point. Excuse me.
Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
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Any chance you could get down here
next Sept. 20-21? If you could I promise you a position in the judge's tent for the Dutch oven cook-off judging. Each cook makes 3 D. O. dishes, bread, main dish and dessert. There are usually around 15 teams entered. You'd love it.
Any chance
the mother ship will come back and get them?
are you obsessed, per chance?
Are you obsessed with gt? This post must have been from a while ago, I don't remember reading it. To actually spend time to find it and repost it, I don't know about that. I guess my point is, do you really think your reposting is changing anything political-wise when it comes to ideology and trying to open other's minds or understand the opposite political spectrum? What is your purpose of reposting something from weeks ago other than to cause disruption and conflict on the board and to actually try to cause hate which, from what I have read, the liberals posting on this board have been doing a good job trying to keep harmony. Can I make a suggestion, let it go.
It probably has no chance of passing sm
and was just a symbolic parting shot, but some of us are grateful anyway. Rallies from coast to coast today are honoring and thanking Cynthia. Wonder what makes you think her party has disowned her.
My favorite clip of Cynthia vs Rumsfeld below:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU
Snowball's chance
I don't think Ron Paul has a snowball's chance of winning, but I wouldn't vote for him anyway.
There is a good chance....since we get most of our oil from...
foreign countries. However, if you inflate your tires properly, we could be of dependence on foreign oil pretty soon. Good chance your gas came from the same place. You a supporter of terrorism? Not hardly, any more than McCain is. Geez.
No chance of that happening...but
The last time we had a democrat president most of my family, freinds, and freinds family WERE homeless. Lost their jobs, lost their homes, lived in their cars, went to the soup kitchens once a day for a meal. The last democrat president implemented NAFTA (not sure implemented is the right word - but was responsible for the start of our jobs going overseas). Continued the deficit (not a surplus like he conned everyone he did). So luckily Bush is not running again so no chance of us being homeless. McCain and Palin gives us experience, loyalty, and a fresh face and ideas for the country. Obama and Biden gives us inexperience, lies, and false hopes. I don't want to end up homeless and broke so therefore I will NOT be voting for Obama. Obama is more of the same except with different packaging.
He reminds me of that commercial by Microsoft for the Mohave experiment. Its the same ol crappy Vista system only being hidden under the disguise called the Mohave experiment. And nobody knows its Vista until they are told.
If they did that, there's a good chance the
There would just continue to be excuse after excuse after excuse.
No more excuses, I want some ANSWERS.
Please give him a chance.
The press conference was 4 days after he was elected. As for who he picking for his staff, he said as soon as he decides who will fill these positions, he will make an annoucement. I, too, am glad he apologized to Nancy Reagan. I knew as soon as I heard those words, there was going to be stuff said. Also, you can blame the press for the question about the dog -- he doesn't have control over questions like that. We need to be patient and not be so nitpicky over such small things. I can't even imagine the pressure he is under right now, not to mention exhausted, and he probably hasn't even had the chance to mourn his grandmother.
He had another chance to do that and he failed
When he was just in Hawaii. A very simple trip to get his bc and prove to everyone he is legal would have solved everything, but he didn't do that.
He is basically saying to the country. I know I don't meet the legal qualifications, so what. There's nothing you can do about it.
Not a snowball's chance if
you think all you have to do is sit around taking pot shots at O for 4 years and turn zero focus on the implosion of the GOP, it's leadership deficit, the long dark shadow of W's scorched earth legacy and their need for a platform transplant. Yeah. Good luck in 2016.
At least give the guy a chance.
He needs some time but I can see that if someone disagrees with anything he says, they'll be called racist. That is completely unfair.
My personal opinion of freezing his staff salary is that is a little bit of nothing. It was just a show. If he wants to impress, he needs to freeze the salaries of all Washington politicians. That would impress me!
I am giving him a chance and I
know that this isn't a quick fix. I'm realistic enough to know Obama cannot wave a magic wand and make this all go away. I'm just saying that for a man who hasnt' been pres for a whole week......he has made a lot of promises already with 2 already broken. I'm not trying to get a lynching mob together. I just want to stay informed of what my president and the government is doing because I refuse to just assume they are making the right decisions. Holy crap people.....seriously! Xanax....try some.
EVERYONE! This your chance to do something about outsourcing
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevator-commercial.html
What can you do?
* Call President Obama at 202-456-1111 and ask him to ensure that all new jobs created under a stimulus package go to American citizens and authorized immigrants already here. Tell the person answering the phone that the administration should suspend most work visas and green cards until it can be determined that issuing them will not harm the chances of unemployed Americans.
* Send a fax to your Senators urging them to make sure that only American citizens and authorized immigrants already here get jobs created by whatever economic stimulus package eventually is adopted.
* Fax your House Member thanking him/her for ensuring that the stimulus bill kept jobs out of the hands of illegal foreign workers but urging that in negotiations with the Senate businesses and governments should also be prohibited from using stimulus money to import more foreign workers.
* Read NumbersUSA's fact sheet Putting Americans Back to Work.
* Forward this page to as many Americans as possible to educate them about the statistics the media and government don't want them to know -- and to warn them what may happen to their jobs if they don't join you in taking action.
* Post your comments about the ad and this campaign.
Well I just had a chance to listen
to this and you kinda misrepresented what he said. Surprise surprise.
He said he hated about 10 people out of the 3000 plus 911 victims' families who won't stop complaining, then he compared the people in New Orleans who were making it hard on everybody else there by not cooperating to those same type of people who are never satisfied no matter how much people are trying to help them.
I completely agree with everything he says on this. I never really felt sorry for the people in New Orleans who refused to leave when they knew way ahead of time that a disaster was looming.
Do you agree that Democrats had a chance...
to head this off in 2006 at John McCain's urging? That the situation we find ourselves in now was avoidable?
Actually Bill Clinton had the chance
To get Osama and he never did. This started long before GW ever got in the white house. You may not like GW - I can't stand him, but I'm not going to blame him for something that started in the Clinton administration.
Anyone over 40 years old has a very good chance
of having Down's syndrome child at birth.
I worry more about Biden being President and Pelosi being VP.
90 percent of Melanoma growths are curable. Lung cancer is bad. Smoking is bad.
I'm willing to give the man a fair chance...
...the exact same way I gave George W. Bush a fair chance even though I didn't vote for him. It was only after he was in office and I saw his contempt for the Constitution and for anyone who wasn't filthy rich that I formed my negative opinion of him. It was his very own actions that formed that opinion, not partisan hearsay.
If this issue is legitimate, why in the world aren't Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham and/or any of the other right-wing media screaming it from the rooftops?
If this issue is legitimate, why in the world didn't Hillary Clinton or John McCain scream it from the rooftops?
The SC will meet this coming Friday, in private (five days before the EC votes) to discuss whether or not they will hear this case.
If the SC goes against the will of the people in this nation and selects the US President again, then the mayhem that will result will make it very easy for George W. Bush to declare martial law (to control the "masses") and officially promote himself to "Dictator in Chief" for an indefinite period of time.
Perhaps that's the true goal of all of this.
If somehow, the will of the people is upheld, we need to be a country of AMERICANS that bond together. We are living in very dangerous and challenging economic times right now. This isn't Obama's fault. It's the fault of George W. Bush and the crippled America that Obama will inherit from Bush. Something tells me, though, that you'll find a way to blame Obama for the sins of Bush, regardless of what happens.
As for me, I'm sick of reading and responding to posts regarding this nonissue. I'm more concerned with legitimate problems facing this country, as they are extremely serious, real and potentially life threatening.
Have at it all you want. I won't be participating any more. I want to be a part of the America that supports its President, especially in these emergent times, not the small, bitter minority that will never give Obama a chance. He could wind up being the best President we've ever had, but sadly, some people will never even realize it.
I just hope he's given at least the chance to be inaugurated...
...before some right-wing home-grown terrorist (with or without the prior knowledge of the GOP) decides to enact "what is to come."
That truly is my biggest fear.
I just don't understand the absolute refusal of some to even give Obama a chance. These are the Americans who frighten me the most, the ones who seem to be the most angry and bitter.
I never voted for Bush, but when he was first installed in the White House, I never felt this bitter about him. In fact, I was starting to like him a little right after 9/11. It was HIS actions in the years to follow that absolutely disgusted me and the very first time in my life that I was afraid of my country's leader.
But I didn't flat-out hate him before he was even sworn in.
If Obama has the opportunity to survive a Presidential term and has actually been a GOOD President, would you even recognize it, or are you so firmly implanted in your crystal ball's readings of "what's to come" that that's all you can see?
In any event, I hope you and everyone else who visits this board has a happy, healthy and prosperous 2009 that is full of love. My health hasn't been all that great, and I need to surround myself with hope and optimism. 
thanks for the website, i'll look at it when i get a chance...
we can kindly agree to disagree; i am tired of the hate and negativity here! hope you have a good day!
Thought I'd take a chance last night
and watched Olbermann because I was bored and wanted to see what all the hoopla is about over him.
Turned the channel after 5 minutes. He just spews hate. He took pot shots at everyone not conforming to his thinking and tried to twist words of his guests.
JTBB: Did you get a chance to watch it? s/m
Let me know what you think.
I came across this because I was researching the Bilderberger Group. I had seen a documentary earlier today on IFC and so decided to see what I could find. Ran across a list of members and, interestingly enough, one of the American members just happens to be David Rockefeller.
As far as the OP's comments, I was wondering why the need to be so insulting to someone not even addressing them directly Pent-up aggression much?
Never miss a chance to slam the Dems, do you?
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By any chance, you catch Larry King?
To begin with, I was a pregnant teen and most definitively will be voting for Obama. The other unwed mother poster is voting for Obama too in case you hadn't noticed. Bully, fear and threat tactics are not effective.
His candidacy is alive and well and has nothing to do with this issue and how it is going to play out. Tonight, Larry King's panel were talking this subject up one side and down the other. Every single issue that was raised today in these posts on this board were touched upon....every single one. SP is in the political arena now. Unfortunately, she has put her daughter there too. The issues surrounding this will be politicized. You can't stop this train.
Have you by any chance researched Biden's temper?
just wondering.
Give peace a chance cuz we are broke now.
McCain graduated 5th from the last in a class of nearly 900 from the Naval Academy. He crashed 4 times before being shot down after being in the air for 20 hours. They accepted him for the family's legacy. He was obviously unqualified to be a Navy pilot.
And Sarah, pretty as she is (the news net works have her picture all over my screen as if she is a super model), would be a nightmare of a VP - and it has nothing to do with her stand on reproductive rights.
Did you watch 60 min?
Let's face it, he stands no chance of winning. However, with the
econmy in mind, he would definitely be the guy to fix this horrible situation we find ourselves in. My whole intention in giving my vote to Mr. Nader is this: I am not going to give up my right to vote, I will be at the polls and I will cast my vote. That being said, I am sick and tired of being lied to and manipulated. I am tired of having my intelligence insulted over and over again by politics as usual in Washington. I will cast a vote and send a message. I know that my tiny vote and its tiny message won't be heard, but I will have satisfaction in knowing that I followed my heart and I did not vote for any Washington liar. We need a change alright and neither McCain or Obama is going to bring it.
Frustrated, are you in a swing state by chance?
I've never had a single call, Republican or Democrat, in my decidedly red state. None of those controversial mailings, either.
I appreciate the link. Always a good thing to be given chance
when it comes to watching a smear campaign implode all over itself.
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