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Be worried about blind loyalty, not learning from history....sm

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-21
In Reply to: Well, I am definitely worried! - nm

be worried about people who put party politics before the good of the country and its people, be worried about waging foreign wars we have NO RIGHT to fight (and by the way, what are we winning there, please remind me). And where do all you DOOMSDAY PROPHETS get all your future information, do you channel Nostradamus,have a crystal ball, or what???


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Blind loyalty, sad. You need to wake up.nm
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Faith and blind loyalty are two different things
You are looking down your nose at people who differ in their beliefs than you. If we have convictions based on our faith (many faiths including Jewish, Christian/Catholic & Muslim consider Israel to be holy territory) then who are you to belittle what we see happening such as fulfilling of propehcy etc.? Just because you don't believe what is happening there has any Biblical/Koranic basis does not make us wrong or loony or whatever. Your statements basically made fun of people of faith, and I don't think that is very tolerant of you.
Not hatred, outrage because of blind loyalty, and I am an Independent....sm
Democrat who thinks for herself and does not have to swallow party lies, or cling to bad loyalties. America means we can ,and SHOULD think for ourselves, I may carry a party affiliation, but I go with my gut, my own intelligence, my instincts, and all the information and education I can get.....you can follow a party,but not into a burning building, as the Bush supporters do....we can all be independent, that is why we have this country, time to get away from that "US OR THEM" theology and be AMERICAN, blind party loyalty is just mass insanity.
learning curve

We (the royal we) are still learning to post according to your requirements of what is important to post about.  Please be patient.


 


Learning to adapt...
I am now in school to earn an accounting degree and I am most definitely taking the Speaking Spanish In Business class as an elective because it is here people - like it or not. You are all going to have to wake up and see where our future is heading and prepare for it - what is the problem with learning another language anyway? I don't say make their language "THE" language - but we have to live together and we might as well be able to work together!
Learning a second language.

You raised some important points on which I would like to comment.  If you are an MT, some of this will already be familiar to you, since we all have gone through the process of acquiring advanced medical language skills.


 


My husband speaks 5 languages (Farsi (L), Armenian, Greek, German (L) and English (L),  and is literate (L) in 3.  We met in 1990 as pen pals, a hobby he had adopted to facilitate acquiring and refining his literacy in English.  From what he tells me and what I learned from this process, there seem to be certain distinct stages of learning and using another language.  


 




  • Formal classes or other types of instruction to learn basic vocabulary, phonetics, entymology, grammar/syntax, reading, writing and comprehension, both written and verbal. 



  • Practice, practice and practice some more.  Use it or lose it.  Typically, beyond the basics, the student will progress through the easiest to the most difficult skills in stages.  The first 4 basics (stage 1), followed by the next 2 (stage 2), then written/reading and verbal comprehension (stage 3). 



  • Verbal comprehension in and of itself is also a 2-stage process.  In that final stage, most often the student will understand the foreign language much more easily (and for a much longer period of time) when it is spoken to them or around them.  The most difficult stage of foreign language usage is the final stage of actually being able to produce coherent conversation with confidence. 

Most of us never really get beyond the classroom/instruction level.  It is a real challenge to find the time and the stage on which the remainder of the process can be played out.  Here are a few ideas on how to overcome that obstacle. 


 


·       Finding venues for Spanish acquisition is pretty easy.  Watch TV in that language.  Start out with children’s programs and advance according to your comfort level.


   


·       Rent movies.  The ones with subtitles are particularly helpful.


 


·       Listen to music and/or radio stations.


 


·       Read books.  Again, start with children’s and work your way up. 


 


·       Put yourself in environments where that language is being used.  Perhaps you could volunteer to tutor an ESL student who speaks your language of interest.  Church services, ethnic restaurants, public events, etc.  Speaking events, such as public political forums, where both languages may be spoken are particularly helpful. 


 


·       Find an on-line language partner.  See below. 


 


·       Make friends with someone who speaks that language. 


 


·       Find a pen pal. 


 


Here are a few resources: 


 



  • ESL Idea Generator.  Great ideas on how to teach English as a second language.  Find access to a language partner and you and your partner could try some of these suggestions.  It is really fun to do…kind of like a game of charades.


http://iteslj.org/Techniques/Houston-TeachingIdeas.html




  • Rosetta Stone Language Exchange Network.  Text and voice chat / language exchange partners

http://www.sharedtalk.com/index.aspx?SRC=GAds.SN.en.Language.Exchange&gclid=CIqy8JrcyZQCFSEragodImWSkw


 



  • TT 4 You On-Line Language Exchange.  Voice chat forum / enhance conversation skills.  Handy translation query text box

http://www.tt4you.com/


 


Most importantly, keep is casual and fun.   


I am learning too but interested in
even-sided with obama and dodd's names all over the place?
Their loyalty is so misguided though...
They think he will take care of their financial woes and lead them to the promised land, when all he will do is lead them to poverty. He is betting on those that will pay no attention to what he is really all about, all the issues he side steps and refuses to discuss, simply because the media doesn't go at him like McCain. They will be sorry they didn't.

Too many followers are just looking for a free ride or a free ride for someone they know...

Jesse Jackson for once told the truth. He told it like it was. Jesse Jr is a big buddy of Obama and even he didn't fall for O's promises until O promised him the world, so now he backs him. What crooks these folks are.


EXACTLY! He has no loyalty to THIS country
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Thank God your Obama has no loyalty to his
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"I am learning at the feet of the masters."

As I said, you seem to need to lace your posts with insults.  You've never answered how that comprises good debating technique.  You have only blamed other posters for your own behavior.


You continue to call me Teddy as some sort of taunt I suppose.  And I remember you accusing me of being other folks posting....heck we even invited you to email several of us in order to prove via email that we were different people but you declined to do so.  Apparently the belief that we were all the same person was somehow comforting in a world full of evil liberals!


I know I'm learning real fast here
I keep seeing posts about how awful the republicans are, blah, blah, blah. Then comes the lies and false statement without any facts. But the minute you put something out there about Obama with a link and reliable sources you get jumped on and called evil. I'll tell ya, makes me think Hitler is still alive and visits this board. HA HA. I've seen the attacks on Sam before so I guess I should have realized this. Guess it just shocked me.
Don't you wish ? Issue is character, trust, loyalty and
What about the rest of the list. Again, question is what does this kind of repeated behavior spanning ?many years say about a man's character, especially one who now implores a nation to admire his character, trust his judgment, believe he is loyal to his porported "cause" and that he respects women...the votes he now seeks
As a mom of 3, I think that is absolutely great, the gift of experience, fun adventure, and learning
There are many ways to "gift" a person!  I think they are very wise and caring parents, just from what I observe from the outside.
History is history and opinion is opinion. You need to learn the difference.
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Actually, I will be MUCH more worried about
nm
Is anyone else worried about

what all they put into this bailout bill?  I'm half scared to know what all kind of crap they put in there to entice some of these politicians to vote for it.  What was in it for them that they finally said "yea" to?


When Dodd gave a speech about the bill last night, I wanted to throw something at the TV.  He was all praising the people who are to blame for this and saying that they were such great help during these proceedings.  He is lucky I couldn't reach through the TV and choke him.


I'm not too worried about that. s/m

If necessary we will heat our home totally with fireplaces.  Plenty of wood and a good outdoor kitchen of Dutch ovens so we can feast without a speck of energy.  Might not like it too much but we could survive with kerosene lamps for light of which we have a number.  No internet but oh well......


Has anyone thought that just eating may be a problem?  Someone mentioned $10 loaf of bread.  We are among the fortunate who live on a farm.  We have farm animals and an abundance of wildlife.  We know how to raise a garden and how to roam over the hills and gather wild food that is etable.  If we enter the next GREAT DEPRESSION, we'll be fine....provided we can keep those who don't have a clue of how to survive from stealing from us.  Might be a good time to read up on the Foxfire series of books instead of spending so much time squabbling about who will be the best (WORST) president.


I'm more worried about you being..
able to vote on Nov. 4th.
worried about what is to come
I am worried about our country.  My friend is in the military and he said that people in his unit are split now over this election.  Not dem versus repub but black versus white.  It is bringing out the worst in people, fueling deeply hidden racism, on both sides,  and bringing it to the surface.  He said that it is getting so bad they are actually fighting, he said like ready to kill eachother.  They are forbidden to talk about politics.  Scary, this is just one unit in small part of America.  What is going to happen if he doesnt win.  What is going to happen if he does? 
Well, I am definitely worried!
nm
O comes across as if he is more worried about
nm
Worried about Rove?

 


 Am worried about Roe v Wade, but not about Rove. He is not worry-worthy - way too much effort. I AM concerned that nothing will happen to any of them that are involved in Plamegate unless it is some third-string low-on-the-totem-pole flunkie who will be completely blindsided when he gets blamed/fired/arrested. This shadow administration is far more evolved than the Nixon guys. I predict nothing will happen to them but what is worse, we have been lied to so often for the last 4+ years that most of us  won't even care. They are going to do what they are going to do...the end.  Here in Florida we voted last election for smaller class sizes and not to build a bullet-train between Tampa and Orlando. Jeb just changed both of those things. We are building the train set up and class sizes stay the same. I wonder why we vote on these amendments at all. What difference does it make? And so it is with D.C. It has not mattered for so long what a great number of us have felt about Iraq and all the lies surrounding it. They just do what they want. And before anyone says "we elected him" as a plausible argument, 51% is not a mandate. One half of this country is on the other side. Our country does not deserve the autocratic theocratic government that has been forced upon us.  When the shoe is inevitably on the other foot I suspect you won't like it either.


Well, Obama needs to be worried.

I wonder who is transcribing the medical notes of Senators Clinton and Obama.


I'm only saying this because a few years ago, I worked for a company that (I believe) didn't offshore, and on one of my jobs, the patient had the very same name as a prominent Washington politician who was considering running for President.


I kind of giggled and thought the patient must get teased a lot for having the same name.  I realized that, as lawmakers, certainly their medical information would be very secure.  I stopped giggling when I got to the "Social History" where the patient's occupation was revealed, and I realized that the patient was indeed that politician.


Fortunately, that politician's note was transcribed by an American transcriptionist, but it seemed to be by the luck of the draw, rather than by rule.


After 9/11, I can't believe this country is still so careless. 


I have always been worried about Russia
There was a great quote from 40 or 20 years ago, from a Russian professor, I'll have to search for it. But, basically it said something like, "We will bring them in with good will and kindness, and then we will crush them with our iron fist!"

However, the issue with Russia doesn't raise any concerns over Obama with me. Maybe he can use a little diplomacy instead of just trying to bomb everything off the map, lol!
Yes, I am worried about Russia.

I do not mean to sound churchy, but I have been brought up that it states in the Bible that Russia (known as another name in Bible, but shows it on a map where Russia is) to be very worried.  When the country Russia comes into play, need to worry about Amargeddon, The End Times.  Not the countries of Iran, North Korea, etc., but Russia.   Yes, I am concerned about Russia.


You should be more worried about Obama and
nm
but she did not say she is not - I am not worried - just interested - nm
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Pugmon: We were so worried about you after
you told us your story about your UTI, depicted as a really life-threatening situatuon, and we asked you to keep us updated immediately what happens to you and you just disappeared and posted only after 1 week!
Not nice!
We are blind.

We have become so successful that we have gotten a bit big for our britches here.  Until 9/11, we thought nothing would happen on our own shores.  Other countries hate us.  When we declared war in Iraq, almost everyone turned their backs on us.  Yet we continue to ship American jobs out of the country.  We continue to buy food and products from other countries that may not have the best regulations.  Here we have people's medical histories on our computer screens and the same information could very easily end up on someones computer screen in India to be typed.  The outsourcing of transcription, in my opinion, is one of the dumbest things we have ever done.  We are so arrogant that we often don't stop to see the big picture.


I love our country and I'm proud to be an American, but I am rather disappointed in how things are going in our country.  We are in deep crap here and I hope and pray that we will get some people in Washington who have a brain and can change things for the best....granted....nothing can be a quick fix and I can't imagine things changing for a few years at least.  I want a good change though.  I won't vote for change just because it is different.  What is the point of change if that change doesn't help in the long run?


You are so blind!

All you want to do is sit around and complain about things and point at one political party for the blame.  You list issues like the war, economy, etc.....and yet when someone actually responds with information, you simply ignore it and say it is nonsense.  What is nonsense is the fact that you never rebuttable with anything of significance.  For once, post something of substance.


I'm not blind.

He has addressed the issues that are important to me personally.


John McCain and his cronies, on the other hand, only recently discovered there IS a middle class in the USA, you know, the "whiners."


you are so blind nm

There are none so blind as......... sm
those who will not see.

Personally, and bash away if you want, I feel that Bush did as good of a job as he could have with the hand he was dealt. I daresay no one on this board could have done a better job. If you want to bash me for that, get out the hammer, but I will not get into a shouting match with anyone here. Last time I checked, this was a free country (how much longer I will be able to say that remains to be seen) and I am entitled to my opinions.

I particularly liked this passage from this article and feel it speaks volumes of the climate in America today, not just on a national front but right down to the smallest governmental divisions, like small towns and schools.

"Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them."
There Is None So Blind As He Who Will Not See
If you choose to live in ignorance, it's up to you.

Wallow in it for all I care. Apparently you enjoy your intellectural oblivion, like all the other obamazombies.

And, seriously, 'babycakes?'

What are you, 9? Does your mommy know you're on her computer, dearie?

There are non so blind as those who will not see.
Personally, I hope you guys keep this up indefinitely since (as some of the GOP leaders have pointed out) it undermines the party's credibility and makes them all look like a bunch of fools.
How blind.........
First of all, O'Reilly has never ever suggested the man deserved what he got or anything close. That has even been talked about on his show with others saying he never suggested violence against this man, so quit regurgitating garbage you hear on liberal hate mongering outlets.....

Let's remember 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.... the man who killed Dr. Tiller should be prosecuted just like anyone else who takes another's life like that; however, keep in mind, Dr. Tiller has been murdering also by the thousands for many decades. He too was a murdered.

Why should O'Reilly be accountable for anything? Remember FREE SPEECH? He can say whatever he pleases just like the liberals who love to back abortionists.

"Are anti-choice groups celebrating today? An abortion doctor is dead so women won't have unwanted pregnancies!

I personally never celebrate anyone being murdered, even this man, even though I find it hard to understand how he could even step foot in a church knowing he murders the very lives God put here. Very hypocritical to say the least. But that is now between him and God...

Too bad you're so worried about the anti-choice groups you BELIEVE to be celebrating this man's death but you show no compassion at all for the babies he murdered for decades! Where's your concern for those children?

How about the war on terror including people like this doctor who slaughtered near-term babies for decades.. what exactly would you call him?

You are so narrow minded that you don't even get that there are many people who are against abortion that do not consider themselves religious.... you seem to be stuck on the term "religious" for some reason...

What do you call groups that push for murder of these unborn children? They're not TERRORISTS?!! What a hypocrit!
Worried about $2,000 debit card? Oh please!
I was reading some posts on MTStars main board last night and OMG some people are wondering what will happen to the $2,000.00 debit card money the victims will get.  One posted she did not want her tax money going to alcohol or drugs!!  Would she be saying that if it had been a middle class white neighborhood or just because most of the victims are black, so she thinks they spend all their money on alcohol and drugs.  These people had jobs, they had lives, they had homes, they had animals..they now have NOTHING, due to not fault of their own, due to our governments inaction and criminal neglect.  So, until they can get their lives back on track (dont know if I ever could, sure hope they can..God help them all), our government is their employer and whatever money they get through the government, they can do with what they want.  My God, they have nothing, nothing.  I cannot imagine.  It blows my mind and each day I get sadder and more angry over the horror.  I gotta tell ya, if I went through what they did, when I got that $2,000.00, I probably would buy a bottle of wine along with finding a home to rent, clothing, food, getting my kids back in school and paying for transportation so I could find another job and then I would relax the first night in my new home with my kids and drink that darn bottle of wine..and thank the powers that be that I am still alive.. I am glad my tax dollars will help these unfortunate people.  
Worried about a recession?? Here's the solution s/m

With Recession Looming, Bush Tells America To ‘Go Shopping More’


Today, President Bush held a news conference where he discussed the “way forward” for the economy in 2007. Renowned Morgan Stanley economist Steven Roach says the the “odds of the U.S. economy tipping into recession are about 40 to 45 per cent.” New York Times columnist Paul Krugman notes that “the odds are very good — maybe 2 to 1,” that the U.S. will teeter toward a recession in 2007. Bush’s solution? “Go shopping more.”


Not too worried about losing Christian Right
nm
It ain't Russia I'm immediately worried about...
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I'm more worried about Obama hob-knobbing with
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Guns are not all the "pubs" are worried about....
but it is a legitimate concern. It is a guaranteed constitutional right. Why would you defend other constitutional rights and be so willing to give that one up?

Personally I think all the give me all the handouts you want to at the expense of others posts are getting pretty darned old.
Obama supporters worried, sorry

I'm less worried about the blame game....(sm)
and more worried about what she is saying now.  Just the other day she had the audacity to say that she would glad to help and support Obama and yet in the same interview reiiterated that she is still worried about his associations with terrorists.  She's not getting any smarter.  In fact, the more interviews she does, the worse she looks. 
I love fashion too, but right now, more worried about
nm
Well, if you're so worried about your money
you need to let your government know you are NOT paying for other countries to abort their children. If the other countries want to stop the rape that causes most of the unwanted pregnancies, then they can start castrating.....that should take care of the problem.
Ya shoulda worried about preserving....
the constitution 8 years ago..............Denmark is doing well - taken care of from the cradle to the grave. Really could use some good medical care........can't find it in this country or your insurance won't pay for it. So much for capitalism.
If you're so worried about your body........
and you think so much of YOUR bodyl, at what point do you think about the body of an unborn child? Shouldn't you be worried about YOUR body before you get pregnant?

What about the freedom and rights of a living being that just happens to be carried in a womb? If you don't want a baby, then how about NOT getting pregnant in the first place? And please don't give me the garbage about "it happens", blah, blah, blah.....there's always a way to make sure it doesn't happen.
Bush Bashing. Right now, I am more worried about
nm
Agree. Obama needs to be more worried about our
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