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Bible verses would be freedom of speech - common sense!

Posted By: Amanda on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: Then why did they - sbMT

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No, that just has to do with some common sense
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No, but I do have common sense.
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Exactly! Thanks for being common sense
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Well, for those with common sense
it's no secret that MORE money will have to be printed to pay for all those ridiculous programs and trillions of dollars in junk stuff. The dollar is worth nadda right now, so it will be worth nil afterwards. How much lower can you go?

Anyone with half a brain knows even if we weren't paying for a wars, that wouldn't even touch the money needed to cover the trillion dollar screwover job he's doing to the American people. He can cut this and cut that and call it duplicate programs, blah, blah, blah, but what good is that when he turns around and ADDS and ADDS more and more trillions of dollars in spending programs?

Government has never and WILL NEVER be the ones who know how to spend your money. All you Obama lovers need to stop pointing fingers at the republicans. Republicans AND Democrats spend too much; that's why it continues to this day. Doesn't matter who is in office. BUT, this is one president who has absolutely gone crazy with spending..........and we thought Jimmy Carter was a nut!!
Common sense would say

that prices may go down a tad bit, but don't be looking to get a car for free. Dealerships still have to at least break even on vehicles to survive.  They can't just give a car away for nothing.  Dealerships are hurting big time right now and people have the common misconception that they will sell something really cheap because they are hurting.  Well selling something and taking a huge loss isn't going to help that dealership so why would they do it?  These salesmen work on commission and they are starving here.  What is the point of working if they can't make anything off of a car to feed their family? 


If I were you....I'd just kind of shop around but I highly doubt that prices are going to drop dramatically.  Even if Chrysler files bankruptcy.....that doesn't mean dealerships selling them will file too.  It certainly won't help sales but it doesn't automatically mean they are going under too.  They still have a product to sell and to make money off of to survive.


Did your common sense tell you...(sm)
that I wasn't talking to you?  
Common sense...
some have it...some don't...
Freedom of speech, LOL
Freedom of speech?  To get up there and state you believe A WHOLE SOCIETY OF PEOPLE, A WHOLE ETHNICITY OF PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABORTED?  Yet, you people jump all over Cindy Sheehan when she rags on Bush, LOL..You jump all over anti war people when we scream..STOP THIS WAR..But NOW you are stating freedom of speech..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..Better to shut up now about Bennett, cause you sure are looking silly..
Ah, yes. Freedom of speech.

I remember it well. 


It was a cute joke.  In case any of you missed it before it was removed from the board, one of the many places it can be found is http://www.justpetehere.com/2004/11/george_bush_pas.html.


Better do it quickly, though, because this post is sure to be removed as soon as the Cons start whining again.


freedom of speech

 Check out the St. Pete Times, Sunday, 11/13/05, The Perspective, article by Robin Blummer. Sorry I don't have the link but it is easy to find. Talk about scary. By the way, I see that there are a number of comments to posts listed on the board but they are not available to see. Is this a new policy...we know people read or responded but we can't see what the response is?


do you or do you not believe in freedom of speech....
and do you or do you not believe in the right of people to have opinions different from those and voice them? Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts? You might be more comfortable in Russia where it is the policy of the counry to control thought that does not agree with the party line.
Freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is freedom to all.

When watching TV if there is something I don't like I change the channel. I would suggest you do the same on this board instead of trying to silence those you don't agree with.

Keep on postin sam - you must be hitting home if there are those who want to silence you.
So is freedom of speech.
If the lady wants to talk about religion, so what? It's not like she's gonna get into office and make us all abide by her religion - Pa-leeeze!!!
Freedom of Speech? Think Again.

See 2nd link. 


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  • freedom of speech
    Hillary said that Bill always was a hard dog to keep on the porch. So what. At least we weren't embroiled in an unjustified war, we had a SURPLUS in the treasury and the whole country wasn't going to the dogs. I believe in the 1st amendment - she can say whatever she wants. Take some cojones to talk about propriety................look at dubya and turd blossom.
    Lack of common sense

    An 83-year-old woman is too old, most likely, to be of much assistance in Iraq.  Not ruling it out totally, but most likely this is the case.  I have gleaned from the posts I have read that the rah-rah-war conservatives doing most of the posting are fairly able-bodied, some in their 30s, some in their 50s and some older.  I am 52 and if I truly truly believed in this war I feel I would be over there doing what I could to support that effort (especially since many over there do NOT want to be there and have serious qualms about our involvement).  But go ahead, call me names and make even more ENDLESS excuses why you won't go.  Maybe even mention a 95-year-old or a 5-year-old that supports the war as examples of folks who aren't over there. 


    In the meantime I read more and more that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda continue to grow and operate at ease and at will in a large area of Afghanistan near Pakistan. 


    It common sense - if we can afford one
    Simple as that.  You can twist it around as much as you want, but the truth is the money is there, and it is just about priorities.  I am not trying to personally attack you.  I have not resorted to childish name calling or anything like that, I just think your view is warped, and you obviously think my view is wrong, and we will obviously never agree on this issue.
    There is also such a thing as common sense.
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    You would say that. Common sense is lost to the
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    Common sense and ethics

    seems to become less and less around these days.  I  agree with your post.  The b/c issue is so the least of my worries and I simply don't understand exactly what it is the supporters of same want to accomplish.


    I fear we haven't seen anything yet.  Heard on CNN (which of course some will say is  not credible) that the unemployment rate could reach 20% within the next few months.  I should think with MTs not having enough work now, that would keep them sufficiently busy worrying.  I don't know what Obama will do.  All I know to do is pray.  I think it is entirely possible that Bush AND the congress have put us so far in the tank there may not be any way out economically.  My guess is that we will be taken over by one of our creditor nations and there goes what's left of our freedom, certainly the freedom to get on the internet and state our thoughts.  But then Bush has bought himself a ranch in Argentina isn't it?  So if his residence in Big D doesn't suit him along with the condition he has left this country in, he has an escape.  Unfortunately most of us can't afford that luxury so we'll be left to deal with the mess he and the idiot congress have left us along with a massive debt in proportions I cannot begin to comprehend.


    Yes, there are many more things at this point that are far more important than the b/c issue.  Wouldn't surprise me if these lawsuits are being filed to dupe people who believe everything they hear.  As I've said before, I do not believe that those who are keeping this b/c thing rolling posting the same thing over and over and over are actually MTs.  I think they are promoting a political agenda.  I have said this before and I notice no one has posted challenging my thoughts.


    I had a great holiday.  Thanks for asking.  I hope you had a great time too.


    No, some of us have values and common sense.
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    It is just common sense that the economy has to ...sm
    come first before any big changes are made. When change is made it needs to be slow and deliberate.
    thought u would have enough common sense

    when I posted my original post FOCA I was responding to some people below, if you do not like my posts or are sick of hearing about the video, then common sense tells you, dont read my posts.  A blah blah blah post or I'm sick of hearing it post, really doesn't have anything constructive to offer to the conversation.  If you are sick of hearing it, move on already.  No one asked you to comment.  And what the heck is a diest anyway?  My what they come up with these days. 


    Agree. You'd think it would be common sense.
    Tax breaks for the top 2% and corporations, or tax breaks and programs to get the economy going again for working people. I don't understand why so many working-class republicans fight against their own interests.
    Ron Paul's common sense
    never fails to restore my faith in the democratic process. His ideas are rooted in thoughtful, down-to-earth analysis and free of partisan affiliation and agendas. It makes me proud when an elected official has the guts to stand up and speak against US involvement in the Middle East, call it exactly what it is and in the next breath expouse the wisdom of centrism when speaking on the economy and the bail outs. I hope he's around for many years to come.
    What we need is a common-sense quotient.
    ;)
    That is the ONLY common sense thing he
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    That one just takes a little common sense...(sm)
    and a little fact checking.  You might want to try it sometime.
    not negativity, just common sense sm
    that whether the president is "hot" or not shouldn't even be an issue. He is in Washington to run the country (that is a joke) not to play beach model!
    Taking a course on common sense
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    Why can't some people just use common sense?

    Obama is going to try to "force" those who want healthcare to be unionized..... which is illegal, but you hide and watch........which will, of course, kill small businesses.    Ron Paul does have it right..........


     


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG8MHYNY4Xs


    Who's denying her freedom of speech.sm
    What you guys want is for her freedom of speech to go unanswered. Since she is an army mom then we should worship her and allow her to dump on us because of our beliefs.

    If she wants praise and high-fives she should be posting on the conservative board.
    Its called freedom of speech
    Hey, neocons, its called freedom of speech..part of our Constitution. Dont like it, dont read the posts, dont come on the liberal board to cause trouble..stay where you are safe on your own board..
    Right on...freedom of speech...how dare we have that right
    you included, of course.
    Called freedom of speech....
    both sides here have posted letters and blogs from private citizens. There are a lot of true things in the letter as well. Just to be fair.
    Good for you - freedom speech
    That's what I say! I'm not wild about Rush, and I can only take so much of Sean, but I do like a lot of conservatives who tell it like it is. Absolutely love Michael Savage (even though he is independent). I will also listen to Alan Colmes, Keith Olberman, and Rachel Maddow. I listen to them all and make my own decisions based on what I hear. I don't go with the party line telling me what I'm supposed to think and how I'm supposed to vote.
    It's called Freedom of Speech. sm
    and if you don't care what she has to say, then don't waste YOUR time responding.  Enjoy your popcorn!!
    it is called freedom of speech - nm
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    It is not slander. It is freedom of speech

    Generally speaking, defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation.Typically, the elements of a cause of action for defamation include:



    1. A false and defamatory statement concerning another;
    2. The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);
    3. If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and
    4. Damage to the plaintiff.

    A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true


    Example:  A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". If the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.


    Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. For example, Ariel Sharon sued Time Magazine over allegations of his conduct relating to the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Although the jury concluded that the Time story included false allegations, they found that Time had not acted with "actual malice" and did not award any damages.


    I.E., what the poster stated was freedom of speech, not slander, libel or defamation of character. It is a known fact that O hung around with not-so-nice people until he ran for President. Is that slander? Nope.


    The poster was giving an opinion. That is freedom of speech. If it was slander, O would have be having a lot of lawsuits on his hands towards all the people who have ever stated anything against him, which would probably be around 250,000,000....including me...out of 300,000,000 people living in the USA.


    Excellent, common sense post!
    Great points!
    Great common sense post! nm
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    Right, nothing psychotic, simply common sense.
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    how about legal!!/common sense test...
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    Perhaps you'd like to give a common sense response to
    Would be interested to hear your spin on that.
    Semantics versus common sense...
    As I mentioned previously, the phrase I mentioned was "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," which is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constititution. I never mentioned citizens at all, and neither did that phrase.

    What I did say is that the law of this land - and any country I am aware of - protects human life, and I'm pretty sure there is little argument that a pregnant woman is always pregnant with a human life...not a gopher, a lampshade, or a pickle. There has never been a human pregnancy that produced anything other than a human being. We (human beings) have laws to protect other human beings. I just don't understand why some people don't think unborn human beings should be included in that protection. Hiding behind religious differences, constitutional "technicalities," and "live and let live" rhetoric doesn't negate the fact that human beings give birth to human beings, and if you kill that human being - any human being, either in the womb or out, it is wrong, ethically, morally, by all human standards and all human laws in all countries of which I am aware.


    Gourdpainter, I love your common sense
    viewpoint of all of this.  We just have to consider ourselves fortunate to be blessed with the intelligence and clear-minded thinking that seems to be so lacking in many of these posts.
    seems like rabid democrat common sense to me.....

    Conservatives that I meet are common sense
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    Most common sense people know it's welfare!!
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    Common sense does not exist with the dems
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    This will be lost on you.....but common sense MADE
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