Brava, someone who actually has read a real history book about....sm
Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-22
In Reply to: Show me proof that it didn't work...... - Big Brother
the ENTIRE administration of FDR, the Great Depression, and the New Deal, there are sixteen long years of history that CANNOT be re-written, even by Faux or Bill O'Reilly, or any of the other self-righteous, loud morons on that station. IMHO
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history book??
Revelations?? Give me an enormous break. Even the stuff that is pseudo-historical is more like little kids playing telephone. Revelations works better as a sci-fi novel than as a history book. & anyway, since when are predictions anything like history? What, the "history" of a bunch of people guessing some stuff? Good grief. This is why I really despise Christianity. You have to embrace the concept of satan, evil, the anti-christ, all those hideous concepts, in order to be a true believer. It's fine to believe whatever you like, just make sure your right to believe stops at my right not to be infringed upon by some fairy tale.
no history book here
just internet babble. I can copy/paste too!
Real history....(sm)
Let's not count on history books, let's just go to the Constitution.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
For the first time in history? Get real and -
I'm so sick of the whining about 'for the first time in history...' And what, exactly was holding African-Americans back before, huh? Can you not think of any excellent Black role models? Cause I can think of heaps of them. There have been, and are currently, many, MANY high-successful, Black public figures. From the mega-successful music moguls to television icons to the halls of Congress and the President's Cabinet.
Just because there hasn't been a Black president before doesn't mean they were EXCLUDED from the race. There hasn't been a WOMAN president either. Or a BLIND president. Or a KOREAN-AMERICAN president. Or an openly GAY president.
Does that mean none of these other groups have had success? None of them have had a role model?
Give me a break, America!
You really should read a book about his...
career. And then you should read on his website what he proposes for this country. And then you should read up on socialism. Not saying that to be demeaning. I don't think he is a socialist...I KNOW he is a socialist.
Have you never read his book "Audacity of Hope"
I would have thought an O lover would be chomping at the bit to read that. He doesn't see the constitution as a "static" document but rather a living document that he should be able to change around at will to suit whatever seems to be going on in the country at the time. That is not the intention of the constitution. The originalists of the constitution put it in place as fixed and unwavering.....you know what that means? Probably not.
It means that the constutition does not promise "we will be rewarded and all good will flow." But this is exactly how Obama wants it...to have everyone believe they should have it good all the time and everything should be great and if not, change the constitution to suit your needs. That is not following the constitution. He believes it is just a piece of paper that should be changed at will whenever he chooses.
Our officials for certain will mess up plenty but the constitution gives them the right to at least influence them and/or replace them.
He doesn't like that...it doesn't suit him. How arrogant! It doesn't suit him?
This is what Justice Scalia said about the constitution which is why Obama doesn't like him. Scalia has put it, "the reality of the matter is that, generally speaking, devotees of The Living Constitution do not seek to facilitate social change but to prevent it."
In his book on the chapter under Constitution, he is so pompous, he says he feels he is "left with Lincoln" in his deluded thinking that they look at the constitution the same. I could go on and on but you obviously haven't taken the time to read his book and really know where this man is coming from. He has every intention of crapping all over YOUR constitution, because he thinks that it is his to change at will.
ANd I can guarantee that if elected, this man will place such immoral justices on the Supreme Court, even you will wonder what country you are living in. This is a man who will resort to sly deceptions to advance his agenda of liberal judicial activism.
No doubt this is all over your head and as usual, you will have another ridiculous comeback because you really have nothing intelligent to comment on in regards to your constitution.
And I won't even bother to address the abortion issue with you and his take on the constitution with that one. You probably don't care much about that either.
Great book everyone should read at this time... SM
'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes. Explains the recession of the 20s and the depression of the 30s and how it all happened. It wasn't the fault of pubs or dems - this had never happened before and no one knew what to do. What actually got us out of the depression wasn't stimulus or tax breaks or cuts in spending - It was WWII.
Read his book, friend....Obama is the one who said it, I was quoting HIM....
he has repeated it in numerous interviews. Thank you for the method of delivery lesson on crack and cocaine (by the way, crack IS cocaine and you can snort it). That being said, I don't think the method of delivery matters. He did cocaine (however he chose to do it, smoke or snort), he says so very openly in his book. He also drank quite heavily for awhile, he also admits drinking. I don't know how he avoided the legal consequences but that doesn't matter. He doesn't say whether he got hooked or not, or how he got un-hooked.
So please do your research before jumping on me.
That being said...I believe him when he says he doesn't do it anymore.
And I have never heard what you just posted about homosexual sex. That is a new one on me.
Stop watching TV or googling, and please pick up a REAL history text without bias, it is not a parti
even I bet George Bush is looking for authors to do so....perhaps he will get out his crayons and try it himself, after he masters "See spot run. See VP Cheney run with his Halliburton $$$$$$$."
Obviously you did not read the history...
I did try to get along...and got attacked wholesale for it. Which seems to be the liberal tack...based only on my experience on this board, mind you.
I do not apologize for finding "the wisdom of the Clinton Presidency" amusing. I know that people would like to think that is the way the Clinton Presidency will be remembered...but unfortunately that will be overshadowed and most people remember him as the President who jumped the intern, lied about it, and was almost removed from office for it.
I have a "fairly broad knowledge base" but pretty much founded 100% founded on those utterly awful right wing rags that make much of America cringe." Please to be specific. What have I said or posted from an utterly awful right wing rag? Please show the post and the right wing rag it came from, please and thank you. My SCHIP information came from the Library of Congress web site and the bill itself...unless you call those right wing rags. On that subject, what are you calling utterly awful right wing rags? Frankly, I think that verbiage would make much of America cringe. And come to that...what do you base THAT statement on?
So...first, what are the utterly awful right wing rags? And then suppor that with "most of America would cringe." Lets see some facts, and not from an utterly awful left wing rag, to use your colorful description. Though until you said that, I really had not viewed them that way. Thank you, really, for a new perspective.
So...let's start with your list of utterly awful right wing rags...and support with fact your assertion that said "rags" "make much of America cringe."
You guys might want to read up on history. sm
Hitler hated the Jews for several reasons, one of which was communism. Socialism and communism are bosom buddies. The left LOVES socialism. Thus anything a Nazi war criminal says that you use is pretty darned frightening and says a lot more about the left than they are willing to say about themselves. So glad you are keeping us informed.
You best read up on history a little more. GOT for one thing.
That's how I felt about her until I read about her history
Read about her on Wikipedia. I think that site is not for or against someone they just state what a person has done. I was a very very hard "Obama all the way supporter and defend him to the end". I'm not a republican in any way nor am I a democrat. I agree with some issues and disagree with others but that's on both sides.
This is what I was thinking and asking myself these questions. There is no doubt I cannot stand McCain. I think he is one of the worst choices ever and just a rotten person. Whether people want to believe it or not he is Bush continued.
However...I didn't know who she was so I read about her and what she stands for. She is not the usual "republican". She has worked for people and she does'nt (and won't) put up with any BS. She has done a lot for the state of Alaska and the people there. I read (don't know exact words to use) but I heard she gave every Alaska citizen I think it was $1200 and she took it out of the profits of the oil companies. She was a city council member for 4 years, then a mayor for 6 years, Chairperson for the Alaska Oil & Gas Conservation Commission for a year, and Governor of Alaska for 2 years. I also went to Wikipedia to read about Obama because I wanted to prove all those who say he doesn't have experience wrong. What I found is he was a member of the Illinos Senate for 7 years and has been a senator from Illinois for 3 years.
So she has 11 years experience and he has 10. Pretty close. One can argue that one job over the other gives you more experience (or not). To me it's not how many years each has been doing their job, it's been what have they accomplished doing their job.
No, Palin doesn't have any "Washington DC" experience but that is exactly what I like about her. I also like that she is pro-environment. She grew up in a family like mine (not wealthy) and like Barack she has worked for what she has.
She is really worth the time researching her. At first I was shocked on the pick, but I had to put the anger aside and look at her from a non-committed approach.
McCain - yes I can't stand him one iota. I can't trust him as far as I can throw him. I think he is as slimy as all the other Bush, Cheney, Rove and all the other "bad" republicans in DC. I cringe thinking about what it would be like if he wins. It literally makes me nautious. But if it does happen I have a mute button and don't have to listen to him or watch him. But Sarah Palin I like her a lot. I think she is a woman of principal and I do believe whe will be able to step in as president.
Also you cannot argue that she has no experience because neither did Bill Clinton and everyone says he was a good president (even thought I beg to differ).
Not saying I don't like Barack. I think he's okay. I do like Biden. I think he's a man of principal and a wealth of knowledge. But right now I think what Washington needs is someone who is not "Washington". This country needs a fresh face and someone who is not afraid to stand up for what is right for Americans and I believe she will. I'm tired of being "mowed over" by our government. Tired of big business and CEOs and oil companies becoming wealthier while the rest of us continue to become poorer.
Also who do you think was out meeting with "the people" who really run our country. Barack and Hillary. This is the group (name unmentioned) that hold secret meetings every year where no reporter is allowed near the facility and they have posted guards outside. Nobody is allowed in unless your in the group (which Obama and Hillary are and they tried to hide it) and they sit around and determine the fate of what will happen. You should ask yourself why didn't they want Americans to know they were at this meeting. If Obama gets in sure his ideas are great and inspiring, but he is still being controlled by others. Palin is not and not afraid to say "no".
Here's another thing I read about her. Not only are Pilosi and other democrats worried, but the best thing is Hillary has seen her dreams of ever becoming "First Woman President" go down the drain - which I am utterly and ecstatically thrilled about, but what is even better that helped cinch it for me. Two things... first JM was "told" to pick her. This was not his choice no matter what you want to believe. He was getting ready to announce Lieberman was his running mate, but he was told she was going to be the VP choice. That right there tells me that JM will not be making any serious decisions. The people who run him make the decisions and tell him what he will do. That is very important to me because I don't trust his decisions. But second and this is equally as important... Bush and Cheney are not happy she was picked. Hence we will finally have someone in there who is not a Neocon.
All I say is its going to be a very interesting rest of the campaign. I'm really interested to hear all the debates. I can't tell you whether I have a strong feeling that one will win over the other, so it will be interesting.
Read up on history: 1948
it were the Palestinians who were attacked and driven out of their homeland.
Attacks 'were launched against the Palestinians, not against Israel.'
There are thousands of websites and history itself that comfirm this as a fact.
All the fighting in Palestine and the Westbank, this since over 60 years, takes place because the Palestinians want their land back or at least a 2-state solution, side by side.
Rockets, suicide bombers etc....???
Nothing in comparison what Israel did Gaza during the invasion last year.
It's a fact of history. Read up on it. You might learn something.
I read plenty, thank you. History will prove your
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I read real slow.
I checked 47 websites regarding Snopes reliability. Excluding those websites with an obvious agenda, I have come to the conclusion that Snopes is reliable.
Thanks ever so much. :)
Get real, I read the entire article. Bush had NOTHING to do with it!
My gosh, the lengths you will go to. Shame on you! Obviously, German would not give him up, as Democrat says. Next you will post that Bush is responsible for orginal sin. And you would believe it, too! 
Did you read the article? It says the video was doctored and not real - nm
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No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
History is history and opinion is opinion. You need to learn the difference.
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or maybe a BOOK
try one. You might like.
Bible not bad book at all...
...and should have its basic tenets taught right alongside of those of the Qur'an and the holy books of all other major world religions. Students of any age who wish to read the Bible in my opinion should certainly be able to do so anytime they wish. Same for all other holy/religious writings. A person's education really isn't complete without a fundamental understanding of all of the religions that shape our world.
I would however sign any petition that forces anyone to do anything in the spirit of indoctrination or exclusion, or against any requirement that implies that THIS is the one true holy book and you WILL read it even if your negligent atheist going-to-hell-parents wouldn't force you to do it at home (and we're coming for them soon too - better join us if you know what's good for you). Unfortunately that is how this kind of requirement is perceived by many people in our current political climate - including me. And unfortunately, I believe this is exactly the attitude held by those who try to force such requirements into the public schools.
I don't think it qualifies as a "random act of kindness" - but rather as a deliberate act of religious supremacism.
I can see the title of her next book now...sm
*The Liberals Took My Voting Rights.* She's such a nutjob!
But every book she writes goes to #1. sm
She is unbelievably wealthy and she can always fall back on her law degree. I don't think she is hurting.
Woodward's book
Cannot wait to read Woodward's new book, however, most of us with eyes wide open have known this even before Bush's war.
YIPES! Foley..what were you thinking? Do as I say, not as I do?
Concerning Chavez's remarks. What better place to scream and holler than at the UN? There have been many heated debates and speeches over the years. Secondly, America, land of freedom and free speech, even for foreigners. I have no problems with what Chavez said, in fact, I agree with him. The democratic leaders who spoke out against Chavez and defended the president need to realize that if the shoe was on the other foot, do they actually think Bush, Cheney, Rove, Snow, Rice, Rumsfeld would defend them? Republicans play dirty, there is proof of that all around, Democrats try not to, however, it has gotten us no where. It is time to play as dirty as the other side. Chavez did not state lies, he stated the truth. If you do not agree, explain then our foreign policy for the last 50+ years, explain our presence in Iraq, even as most Iraqi's are wanting us out or dead. Bringing Democracy to Iraq, oh please. You cannot force an ideology on people with the barrel of a gun. When we do leave Iraq, whenever that is, it will not resemble any type of Democracy that we have ever seen. We have given a gift to Iran with our invasion of Iraq.
Book Proceeds
Yep, was just posting information. Funneling the money to the kids is a way to get the book published. I am sure there are under-the-counter things going on, and I figure the Brown and Goldman families will tie it up anyway as well they should. As to those poor kids...I don't know if there are anough couches in the US to fix them. And that sociopath father of theirs could not care less. If he cared one whit about those kids he would not have murdered their mother and left her mutilated body lying on the sidewalk for them to possibly find. Sick, sick puppy.
That is unsubstantiated....out of a book some...
guy wrote who said "three Arizona reports on condition of anonymity" told him they overheard it. Chalk this one up to unsubstantiated rumor in my books. If someone knows of a link where McCain admitted this, I would be interested in it. If it is true, she should have slapped the cr*p out of him. I am not so naive as to think that other Presidents have not called their wives foul names and vice versa. I can just imagine during the Clinton years.... lol ....remember all the unsubstantiated rumors about Hillary using the "F" word to the secret service people and calling them all kinds of names? I think that is what is happening here. Any time someone says they speak on condition of anonymity makes me suspicious out of the gate.
Book banning VP?
If SP tried to ban library books as mayor, what will she do if she becomes president, which is very likely since JM is not healthy. Isn't there something in the bill of rights about freedom of speech? I am a book lover and this really makes me angry.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html
Former Mayor John] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.
I would like to suggest a book.....
"People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck, MD - excellent book and he makes reference to several other books that are good reads. This book is about the true meaning of evil - from a scientific perspective. It is not about "possession" but he participated in a few exorcisms performed by many people of different faiths, he said (and don't quote me) that the basic requirement was just that the participants love the afflicted enough to want to help them. He states that "possession" is extremely rare, but he witnessed it up close and personal when the patient was thought to be mentally ill. I have owned this book for years and every time I lend out my copy and don't get it back, another one presents itself at a yard sale, library book sale, whatever.
book smart isn't everything
I've known a lot of educated people who don't know a thing about real life. Need some life experience and common sense to go anywhere.
The book has been widely
vetted. It is regarded as trash by all other than extreme right thinkers. The author made 8 corrections in the second print already. that was only weeks after publication. I have a great idea. Instead of insisting people wear flag pins let us change this country back to the democracy we can be proud off. The country is based on inspiring ideas. Internal change is much more legit than external. How you ask. I myself am working for my candidate in my community to spread the word. We are successfully awakening the spirit of the nation. We have gathered hundreds of young voters and driven them to the polling place to register and vote. The sleeping giant is stirring and a youthful new leader has emerged to restore us to the greatest nation in history. If you don't believe me, check out this morning's edition of Vast Variety, the newspaper of those in the know.
No, because she had not written a book about one of the...
participants and it is in her best book selling interest if he WINS. She makes no secret she supports him. A moderator is supposed to be NEUTRAL.
Perhaps because the book has only now come to light....
I didn't know about the book until now. The point being...it is known about now, she knew it then, she should not have taken the job. What if they had chosen Michelle Malkin or Ann Coulter? Would that be okay with you? Geez.
I must have missed that book
in the bible that calls for voting for McCain/Palin. I'll have to look again.
I believe Jesus was a radical, but I still don't see where he calls for a specific candidate.
The one who is going to write a book
for our country and how he kept our country safe for the last 7 years from terrorists. He could not state it while he was in office, but now he can write a whole book about him being in office. I felt much more secure with Bush than I will with O as he still scares me.
Pretty much the whole book..........sm
of Revelation. All those who stand against God will be destroyed in the battle of Armageddon. Revelation 21:10 describes the new Jerusalem as it will be after the battle and all is settled.
Ridiculous Book of the Year
OMG, even the republicans have to speak out against this..OMG, what is going on?
 Ridiculous Book of the Year
Saturday Funnies
You would think JohnFive in the noggin Gibson, a man who wished that Karl Rove received a medal for outing Valerie Plame and other idiotic takes on the world was going to write a book it would be about something a little more important than: The War on Christmas.
Jesus General wrote his Amazon review of the book here and found some hysterical Freeper reviews.
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Bittorrent-WMP Bittorrent-QT
Even O'Reilly made fun of him by saying that his title was Coultersque. John actually said there are children who don't know what a Christmas tree is. What's the number John-two? The horror. oh...Heaven help us!
The reviews are bad on Amazon for this book...sm
Here's one of the shorter reviews I found interesting.
*Gibson has managed to accomplish what many have tried but few have accomplished; namely, to redefine a commonly used word. In this case, Gibson has somehow managed to define oppression as lack of monopoly. According to Gibson, the continued existence of non-Christians during the winter holidays constitutes oppression of Christianity. Never mind, of course, that the Christian religion probably holds the all-time world record for being oppressed less than any other major religion; it had a remarkably easy road to hegemony. With this book, Gibson hopes to make any non-Christian terrified to express any religious sentiment other than that of the power base.*
Call Ann and see if she needs a book stockman..sm
You two should get along nicely.
The Democrats did not write this book.
A man who calls himself a **Christian conservative** did. He was I believe the #2 man on the **faith-based initiative program.** His name is David Kuo. He is a Republican. I think he will be on 60 minutes tonight. I have seen a couple of recognizable names from the Christian right denounce the white house after hearing some of the things Kuo writes. I am anxious to hear what Kuo himself says.
I am a Christian and I do not feel stiffled at all about voting.
From Obama's book..... pandering to who???
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."-Truth!
This is an accurate quote from the introduction to Dreams from My Father. The book chronicles Obama's experience as the son of an African father and an American mother.
It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."-Truth!
This one is also from Dreams from My Father. It is from a section when Obama was a college student and wrestling with his identity including as an African-American. The quote describes his observation of what was required among his fellow students.
"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."-Truth!
This is from Dreams from my Father. The more complete quote is, ""Yes, I’d seen weakness in other men— Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."
What if McCain wrote a book
And in his biography, he made statements like not ingratiating myself to blacks.
Showing loyalty to the white masses
Or made a statement saying I never emulate black or brown men.....
Do you think there would be any chance he'd be a presidential candidate right now?
If McCain wrote a book, this is what it would say sm
McCain's book would say this:
Chapter One:
I am an admiral's son. I was a POW for 5 years. My wife waited for me and I ditched her when I got home for Cindy. A month after my divorce, I married Cindy the botox queen who bobs her head and makes $100 million a year. I don't want to be her little houseboy so I'm trying to be president so she can be proud and I can help all her corporate friends.
I'm skanky and old and I follow what GW Bush says and does, although now that he tanked our country, I'm trying to backpedal on that until after the election. Right now we are trying to figure out how to steal votes in a less sleazy fashion than the past 2 elections. We have the power and we aren't giving it up easily.
My worst idea ever was getting Sarah Palin but I cannot admit mistakes so now I just go and defend her before anyone even opens their mouths. I say ISN'T SHE GREAT, while inside I'm kicking myself. She made me lose long time republicans. I know if I die after hopefully being elected the big bad repubs will impeach her butt in a heartbeat. Speaking of heartbeat, I'm sorry I slobbered and gasped so much during the debate last night. I don't want my supporters to think I'm sick...I was just trying to distract people who were listening to Obie. He is really stealing the show.
I don't know why the Hillary supporters don't like Palin. Do you suppose they aren't as dumb as I'd hoped? I was hoping they would be satisfied with those 2 having as little in common as labia majora and a a vijayjay. Oh well. Can't please everyone.
By the way, did you know Palin's husband belonged to a fringe group that tried to get Alaska to secede from the Union? That will be the grounds to impeach her if I kick the bucket. Oh heck yeah, we good ole boys have it all figured out.
Anyone have a clue why Jackson Brown, Survivor, Heart and all those other bands won't let me use their music? I sure can't ask the Dixie Chicks now can I?
Ain't it a shame how everyone came down on them girls for speaking against Bush when they were 100 percent right? Whoops, well I can say that now that I'm trying to distance myself from the C student whose daddy got him into Yale. But he is a rich boy and I only hang with rich boys.
Let's see now. One more thing. I was brilliant last night with my Joe the Plumber. Good thing nobody found out until after the debate that he was a republican plant. He was on talk radio, the right wing hater shows, even before the debate. Yeah, he was a plant, not just some random thing but haha fooled everyone for a night. Now if I can just fool them until the election.
Peace! I mean WAR. More war more war more war!
Obama's words in his own book
Not trashy words, unless you think his book is trash? It was a great way to sell out his own grandma, wasn't it?
Hillary can write another book
And her debt will be wiped clean or pretty near to it. She just is greedy and wants everyone to pay for her expenses. Her and Bill make enough money to wipe out their (or her) debt.
This is ridiculous that the DNC is asking people to give for them. We're already going to be paying a ton for the bail outs they gave a few weeks ago.
Another book about the Great Depression
The Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes. I'm about halfway through it now and it's amazing - it could have been written about the last several years instead of the 1920s.
At least O held the book right-side up......
He needs to buy a "tax guide" book for
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I heard that he had a book coming out. (sm)
Hopefully it will add more fuel to the fire and get the UN to go ahead and prosecute. They're already talking about trying Bush and Rumsfeld for torture. I think that would be our best bet, and then they could have Cheney too. That would keep Obama out of it, keep from tying up our courts and money in it, and it gets those criminals out of the country. 
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