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Careful, that reactionary streak is showing.

Posted By: Zauber on 2005-09-29
In Reply to: Okay, let's penalize.... - SM

Now,where did anyone say anything about stripping the rich of their money? Nobody said that and nobody meant it either. That's a grossly paranoid and reactionary tack to take when we were only talking about the rich paying their due share back to society. There are plenty of ways that revenue gets used, such as roads that we all use, upkeep of public lands, payments on national debt, etc. Why SHOULDN'T they pay a fair share for the privilege of living here like the rest of us?

And stop being so all-fired snobby about service industry workers. We NEED people doing those jobs. You talk like they're on welfare when clearly they are NOT - not that they don't NEED to be. Sure they can get more education or find different jobs if they want to - Duh! We all can. What are you so high-falutin' about - you're a transcriptionist?? For your information the rich in the industry consider you an overpaid secretary and are working as hard as they can to scrub you off the board with the help of a president who feels there's just too darned much writin' goin'on in the medical industry and if we could just get rid of all that paperwork it would be great!

And for your additional enlightenment, you ought to be aware that the biggest, baddest welfare bloodsuckers in this nation ARE the huge corporations who receive billions of our tax money each year in the form of incentives, government bonuses, relocation grants, production quotas, bankruptcy bailouts etc - all things that none of us taxpayers would ever qualify for. AND, 60% of major US corporations pay as much tax as your BK employee - absolutely *ZERO*. Now you could argue that the govt. handouts to corps. are necessary to stimulate the economy (even though you'd be wrong considering the amount of flimflammery that goes on at the corporate pig trough)but I would say right back at ya that earned income credit is absolutely VITAL to the welfare of American children. I can't think of any tax break that is more important than one that helps parents raise their kids in better conditions.




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GIVE ME A BREAK.

Careful. (SM)
Wishing Happy Thanksgiving isn't causing trouble. It isn't bringing political views into question.

Moderator
Be careful
Please be careful about generalizing people into categories. I am a Republican and I agree that gay marriage should not be a political issue, as well as many others that seem to be these days. I'm not offended by your remark, just wish more people would get the facts straight before making a comment like that - maybe then the two parties could actually work together to get this country straightened out.
Careful GP
Eloquent speeches...

But, I'll bite my tongue. I'm waiting to see him walk the talk.

BTW...if I'm right...I'm allergic to shellfish, so how about a big juicy steak? :)
Careful what you wish for. We may not have any
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better be careful
they will call you a liar because they dont agree with you.  If it goes against what they think, they will not CONSIDER it or PONDER that it COULD be true, it is just a lie.  You cant speak badly about Os ideas because they will have a tantrum and stop talking to you after they first tell you you arent allowed to have an opinion.
Be careful.
I tried that tack earlier and got bashed in return. Apparently some people just don't want to try to get along.
Wow..... Be careful.......... sm
lest that ivory tower that you are perched upon tumbles. I don't think I have ever read anything so condescending in my entire life.


Careful now.
Bottom feeders often get stuck in the mud and stay buried under the debris and excrement of thier own kind.
Careful................ sm
If it is that easy to grow and the government legalizes, they might just subsidize it!! ROFL!!!
Careful, yes....
verbatim/scripted, no.  Mechanical, no....genuine, heartfelt, yes.  Sorry, I just can't shake the impression somebody has their hand up the back of his shirt making the mouth work.  'tsall right?  'tsall right! 
be careful of what you wish for...
You might just get it, and then we will all be sorry. NO UNION.
Be very, very careful with what you wish for. I wish you luck with all your
I doubt very much anyone with any true intelligence will truly like the way we are about to go, should Obama win the white house
Nothing new all lies. Be careful what YOU believe. nm
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Careful gourdpainter -- you may soon

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Be careful, you are getting too close to
proving your point. Some folks on here don't want to see you do that! Not if it disagrees with their infatuations, even when they know deep inside it is the truth. This dude wrote this junk before the election and Obama loved it! Enough so that he had the man's wife, Beyonce (sp), peform at the inauguration! and Jay-Z was in the guest of honors spectators seats. Racism? Heck NO!
Be careful where you go with that logic
Does that mean that we can safely assume that anyone who believed in Swaggart, Baker, Haggart, or any one of the legion of other evangelical ministers are guilty of not having a true Christian belief or guilty of the same 'crimes' that their ministry leaders were? Guilt by association, while easy, doesn't seem like a very Christian assumption.
Be very careful what you say, Patty. As
the mother of 3 young men, the oldest now 41, who were raised in church being taught the Bible is God's inspired Holy Word. Being their mom, I consider them "good boys." Let me tell you, over 41 years, I have had a pretty healthy diet of words. Unless you have walked in someone else's shoes you have no right to tell that person what you would or would not do because you have no idea what you would do. I'm sure MTTL has shed many tears and prayed many prayers over this. She is no more responsible for her son's sins as an adult as I am for my sons' sins as adults. This does not mean we stop loving them, that would be unnatural love. Please rethink your post.
Careful what you say, God's children might be listening!

The religious right's version of freedom of speech.  Scary, huh?


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/06/tech/printable1099028.shtml
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Criminal Twist In Evolution Debate


LAWRENCE, Kansas, Dec. 6, 2005


(AP) A Kansas professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he sent e-mails deriding Christian conservatives was taken to the hospital Monday following what he said was a beating.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki told the Lawrence Journal-World that two men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be offered for the first time this coming spring. Originally called Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies, the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's request.

The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.

I didn't know them, Mirecki said of his alleged assailants, but I'm sure they knew me.

One recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization referred to religious conservatives as fundies, and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a nice slap in their big fat face. Mirecki has apologized for those comments.

Lt. Kari Wempe, a spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriff's Department, said a deputy was dispatched to Lawrence Memorial Hospital after receiving a call around 7 a.m. regarding a battery.

She said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. in rural Douglas County south of Lawrence. Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind, he said. They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.

He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object.

Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital.

Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his injuries included a broken tooth.

I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots, he told the Journal-World.

Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30 and 40 years of age. One of the men was described as wearing a red visor-like ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup truck.

Wempe said the department will investigate every aspect, but couldn't discuss specifics.

Andrew Stangl, president of the Society for Open Minded Atheists and Agnostics at the university, described the attack as bizarre and terrifying. He said Mirecki, who is the group's faculty adviser, is adamant that the alleged beating is related to the recently canceled course.

That absolutely shocked me, he said, because people don't do that in a civilized society.

Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their politics.

I have zero tolerance for thugs, she said. There is never an excuse to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an excuse.


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Sorry, Moderator...I will be more careful in the future.
Thank you for deleting it, thereby letting me know it was inappropriate. Again, I apologize.
Be careful Shelly, we might actually agree on something...LOL (nm)
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Yeah, JTBB. Be careful what you and the
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Careful Barack? you're kidding.
He wasn't too careful with his asssociations was he? He may APPEAR thoughtful and careful, but it is a facade. He doesn't have near as much on the ball as McCain/Palin and definitely not the judgment i want in a leader.
Better be careful or they'll call you racist
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Careful. Your extremism and religious hatred
nm
Careful! Some neocon troll might twist your post into a threat!!!

The pic isn't showing up for me so I am not
sure what one you are referring to, but I have seen video and pics of him saying the allegiance with his hand over his heart. There is a big snopes.com article about the whole thing and follows in line with with Chele said.

www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
I think that showing them would....(sm)

definitely make it more dangerous for our troops in the middle east.  I'm not sure how the rest of the world would look at it though.  Here's the problem I see.  If the photos are very damning, then it would again bring to the forefront pressure (from the public as well as other countries) to do prosecutions.  I'm not so sure Obama wants to deal with that pressure since he hasn't been too excited about prosecutions anyway. 


I personally wish they would go ahead and get it all over with (prosecutions, that is).  If we lose a couple dems in the process, well, then so be it.  If they were in on it, then they need to go anyway.


I think that showing them would....(sm)

definitely make it more dangerous for our troops in the middle east.  I'm not sure how the rest of the world would look at it though.  Here's the problem I see.  If the photos are very damning, then it would again bring to the forefront pressure (from the public as well as other countries) to do prosecutions.  I'm not so sure Obama wants to deal with that pressure since he hasn't been too excited about prosecutions anyway. 


I personally wish they would go ahead and get it all over with (prosecutions, that is).  If we lose a couple dems in the process, well, then so be it.  If they were in on it, then they need to go anyway.


your ignorance is showing...

Your ignorance is showing...

Your paranoia is showing again. sm
Some things never change.
Once again, your naivete is showing

There are many, many, many, many roles for non-military folks to assist in Iraq.  I can provide you with the information if you are interested. 


But once again, perhaps your far-far-far right-wing propanda doesn't mention that.


Please refrain from speculating about what I would or would not do....it makes you look very naive and child-like and simplistic in your understanding of the motives and personalities of people you bash on a forum.  You have no knowledge of me, don't know why you pretend that you do.


 


That is how most of the media is showing it....
McCain speaks at every rally also. Same with Obama and Biden. Biden speaks first, then Obama. That is the way they have done it for years. The VP candidate speaks first, then the Pres. candidate when they are at the same venue.
Sounds like he is just showing how
much of a pig he really is.
my ignorance is showing!
Can you tell me what is ACORN? And what are the voter fraud issues with it? Sorry, but I just don't know this stuff and trying to get informed. I found some conflicting info while trying to do some research and alot of stuff I didn't understand so can someone break it down to simple terms for me? Thanks.
Just above your level of showing your
stupidity for trying so hard to appear to be intelligent.
The desperation of the right is TRULY showing now.....sm
but after all that denial and false justification of the Bush years, all the excuses why Bush could not do a darn thing to stop this crisis, WOULD NOT, well, the shame is hard to swallow.
she's showing off the guns...
which do look amazing, probably larger than his!
LOL. Is my defensiveness showing that good...nm

Excuse me but where I live they are showing ...
the RNC. They are giving it as much airtime here on CBS, NBC and ABC as they did the DNC. I'm not paying much attention to either the DNC or RNC (too much like a pep rally but no real substance IMO) but they are showing it at the same times as they DNC was last week.
Not deflecting....just showing your hypocrisy.
Acceptable in a Democrat, does not affect his ability to be President...but a Republican is a poon dog.

Takes the air out of the criticism somewhat doncha think?
YOur ignorance and racism is showing
OBAMAJAD? Could your side please give the "he's a Muslim" chant a rest?

Or do you enjoy looking stupid?
I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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Well, Stardust, YOUR hatred is showing. You think
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Of course they did. But at issue here is showing voters
I did not call you an imbecile. I said your posts are imbecilic. Being a hot-headed Obama supporter, according to the red camp, I have no character to degrade, so evidently I have nothing to lose by calling it like I see it. BTW, I've probably done all the growing I'm gonna do by age 64.
Your Ignorance Of History Is Showing
Please go back and look at the societal accolades Hitler used to make himself the prince of the German people.

You, my dear, are guilty of ignorance of history. And claiming that I have shown "extreme ignorance of history" leads me to believe that you are more into histrionic bashing than actual fact-checking.

Go away and do a bit of research.

You may not like what you see, but at least your lack of education on the subject matter might diminish a bit.
Your the one showing how little you understand about the situation
What part of Hamas and Israel at war don't you understand.

What part of Hamas terrorizing Israel don't you understand.

What part of Hamas slaughtering and killing innocent citizens, women and children don't you understand.

To me it looks like you don't understand any of what is going on over there, therefore should keep your comments to yourself.

I just say thank goodness our incoming President understands it very well.

What was that quote I read that Ben Franklin said "Better to keep one's mouth closed ...".
Showing your true colors?
You are one of the people on this forum who complain the loudest about democrats who voted for President Obama looking for handouts, and here you are looking for a handout. You have got a lot of nerve!
Showing your true colors?
You are one of the people on this forum who complain the loudest about democrats who voted for President Obama looking for handouts, and here you are looking for a handout. You have got a lot of nerve!