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Doesn't matter about religion and

Posted By: politics, it's the truth you on 2009-01-31
In Reply to: That needs to be rejected. (sm) - Just the big bad

cannot tolerate, so let's relate it to *religion & politics* for this issue. Same ole same ole.


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Yes, by all means, lets condemn the religious right or for that matter religion period but ...
let's continue murdering babies by the millions.  Prophecy is being fulfilled. 
Religion doesn't belong in politics, Church-lady.
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It doesn't matter when. sm
The bill is about when and not now, meaning NOW, prisoners taken in war are dealt with by us.  The bill is about when Iraq becomes a full democracy and has nothing to do with who cares most about the soldiers.  This just caught my eye on the menu because it is wrong headed. And, if it were true, the media would be headlining it.  They aren't. 
doesn't matter to me
I think my candidate could hold his own against either one of those, but everyone has to protect "poor Sarah." Frankly, I don't want a leader that has to be handled with kid gloves. Geez.
Doesn't matter. I will NOT be in ANY way...
responsible for putting Barack Obama in the White House. NO WAY. NO HOW.
No it really doesn't matter..
I tune in just about everyday just to hear her and Joy go at it. Joy is rude, typical New Yorker I can say that, I am from there, so no flaming.
i think that it doesn't really matter who won
We're in the economic crapper either way. Now the pubs will be able to blame the dems for the next 4 years.
doesn't matter

where I live or where you live.  A republican who tries to suppress voter turnout by declaring that registrations on a certain weight of paper are invalid is not a good guy. Notice he was voted out of office?  All youse defending Joe the Plumber and condemning a corrupt public official have your head screwed on backwards. The dems are in control now, so bleat on as you wish.  we will defend your right to opinion as well as own.  We're just that kinda folk.


 


 


Doesn't matter what you THINK you know
One of my best friends is an immigration lawyer and also does adoption from foreign countries. He knows the laws and says Indonesia does NOT have dual citizenship.....never has with the U.S. and the U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship with Indonesia.

Dealing with countries that do not recognize dual citizenship is not the same as say dealing with Great Britain.

Under Indonesian law, if a parent renounces a child's citizenship to another country, that is all that matters. That child no longer has U.S. citizenship......period!!! His stepfather renounced his citizenship to the U.S., whether you like it or not.

Now, if Obama wanted to renounce his citizenship to Indonesia, he could have done so at the appropriate age of adulthood, but he did not. Even then, it takes a lot more in Indonesia that just renouncing....a lot of mumbo jumbo and red tape to do that as well.


Indonesia does have a law starting in ག that supposedly would allow dual citizenship, but it still hasn't gotten roots yet and really no one has been able to even get dual citizenship with this supposed law, so like it or not, Obama is NOT a U.S. citizen.

Doesn't matter what name you use, we
out in the crowd, you always manage to make a point.
It doesn't matter how well he does
They will complain no matter what he does.

Tell me that's not prejudiced.
It doesn't matter to me (for the third time). I like him. NM
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Right gt race doesn't matter

I actually agree with that post.


Now can you quit calling us racists, because from what I can tell from posts nobody here is...



It doesn't matter who they are or what their politics are either. sm
Doctoring is just plain wrong, not matter the reason.
None to few but that doesn't matter to the left. sm
President Bush has always been held to a *higher standard*.   Excuse me while I barf.
It doesn't matter who or what you voted for -
in the past. If you voted for someone or something in the past election(s), and you feel it was a mistake, and then you vote for the same thing again, that would very likely make you a moron.
It doesn't have to matter to you...did not post it for you alone...
She is a member of the Democratic National Committee, for pete's sake. That is not just any committee as far as politics are concerned.

I understand YOU don't care. I get it. But I think others will. SHe is not just endorsing him, she is going to campaign for him for Pete's sake...lol.

It is virtually unheard of for a member of the national committee of either party to endorse the OTHER party's candidate. Especially a Democrat.

Obama really ticked some people off. As smart as he has been in other decisions, someone sure led him wrong on a big one.

Wow...this could be another game changer.
Doesn't matter. The message is still the same.

It really doesn't matter who moderates - sm
Because, no matter what, any misstep Palin makes will be magnified a thousand fold by the left wing, then mocked on SNL, then replayed ad infinitum on Leno and by the harpies on The View and by "I've-got-a-crush-on-Obama" Letterman.

And any blunder Biden makes will be laughed off as, "Oh, that whacky Joe."
Doesn't matter to me. I can look up the votes...
on regulation and deregulation. McCain was right about this crisis looming, Dems killed the bill in committee. What I saw was a 30-year product of what is wrong with Washington now and someone who is the antithesis of Washington politics. I am ready for REAL change.

To use your words, hey genius...its the Patriot Act. And it has already been used to foil plots within the US. We live in a different world now. Obama voted to extend the Patriot Act by the way. Just so you know.
Truly doesn't matter where she appears or what she does...sm
the left will always find a reason to find fault of some sort.


It's actually rather admirable for her to take this particular bull by the horns, and appear on SNL's "weekly Palin smear show."

Unfortunately, I hear they're also going to follow the Obama campaign and the media's lead and smear Joe the Plumber for asking a question, that gave the Obama answer, that has Obama's campaign scrambling to try to save themselves from ruin.

Obama's answer to Joe is the real big problem here....and was an election breaker and maker, and Obama knows it, and so do the American people.

Mark my words....Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber, have saved McCain in this election.



And Obama knows it and is running scared again.....
you know, it doesn't really matter what he says because somebody will always discount it as a lie
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Doesn't matter whether or not I care.
seems that all those calls are being ignored anyway since we are getting reports about a compromise measure on the stimulus plan that appears bound for passage. Whose got deaf ears now? Huh?
Doesn't matter how you get it - whether by check -SM
or by paying $600 less in taxes. $600 is $600. Even if that causes you to break even on taxes, not owing and not paying, if you didn't have to pay $600 in taxes, then you're at least not in the hole for it, either. I'll take it any way I can get it.
Doesn't matter what I would suggest,

no one in the upper echelon would listen anyway. Look how many people HAVE complained to the government and they went and did what they wanted to anyway.


First, home mortages/foreclosures should have been taken care of by way of being able to re-finance through banks (which probably will not happen), but in reality, should have been taken care of in the bank bailout. There should have been a lot of stipulations in the bank bailout that were not put in place but both dems and pubs voted for it. There should not have been government jobs/waste in the new stimulus plan; i.e., parks, high speed rail between Disneyland and Las Vegas, STD/sex stuff, and whoopdedo a $13 a week in our paycheck, but you know all that.


BTW, heard O state today that the $13 a week equals $65 a month. Do the math. He's going by a 5-week month, not 4. There are a couple months that have 5 weeks, but not many, so he's slightly wrong there.


There is so much wrong with this stimulus package. FYI, I'm not whining. I'm complaining but it seems to fall on deaf ears.


Doesn't matter what I would suggest,

no one in the upper echelon would listen anyway. Look how many people HAVE complained to the government and they went and did what they wanted to anyway.


First, home mortages/foreclosures should have been taken care of by way of being able to re-finance through banks (which probably will not happen), but in reality, should have been taken care of in the bank bailout. There should have been a lot of stipulations in the bank bailout that were not put in place but both dems and pubs voted for it. There should not have been government jobs/waste in the new stimulus plan; i.e., parks, high speed rail between Disneyland and Las Vegas, STD/sex stuff, and whoopdedo a $13 a week in our paycheck, but you know all that.


BTW, heard O state today that the $13 a week equals $65 a month. Do the math. He's going by a 5-week month, not 4. There are a couple months that have 5 weeks, but not many, so he's slightly wrong there.


There is so much wrong with this stimulus package. FYI, I'm not whining. I'm complaining but it seems to fall on deaf ears.


What's sad is it doesn't matter which party
The liberal dems wring their hands about the plight of these people and want to let them stay (and hand them the moon) for 'humanitarian' reasons.

The conservative reps support the corporate interests of a ready supply of cheap labor (and we know how well that's worked for MTs), appealing to the citizen's desire for inexpensive products.

Bottom line is that they're both seeking the vote of the millions of Hispanic immigrants, both legal and illegal*.

*: Anything can be bought. The same social security cards and driver's license that some use to get work are used to register to vote. It's harder to cash a check at my bank than it is to register to vote.
doesn't matter if you're conservative or liberal
if you stray away from the "hate Bush", "impeach Bush" or "the war is wrong" mantra they'll rip you up like a pack of wolves.   Most of these posters are extremists.
It doesn't matter, this post is unforgiveable. SM

Posted By: gt on 2005-07-16,
In Reply to: Just when I thought you couldn't post anything worse sm - Really?


Nah, terrorists are not nice guys who need a hug..but, yes Bush's two daughters are ugly alcoholic freaks who need to go to daddy's war.. As far as Laura?? The one who killed a childhood friend, yeah, she is a Stepford wife, a dumming down wife..and also a murderer who killed a friend years ago..If we will not forgive and forget Ted Kennedy, we most certainly cannot forgive or forget what dumn arse Laura did who rides the coat tails of the Bush family.  May Bush, Laura and the two alcoholic ugly daughters burn in Hell for eternity..


Doesn't matter.....she stuck her nose out first
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It doesn't matter who is in office. Taxes will go up. Do
 you remember Mr. READ MY LIPS who said NO NEW TAXES?
Doesn't matter.....poster never can falsify the
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Doesn't matter...the facts were there before the election
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Doesn't matter - my 401K is losing an average of $3K
per DAY. Not per week, per DAY. If the loss continues at this rate, it will hit a zero balance and I'll have nuthin' to lose. So I'm voting for Obama, cuz I sure as he11 don't want that old Republican prune taxing my HEALTH CARE next.
It doesn't matter how it started; it matters that it stops.
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It doesn't matter WHERE he was born. He was born to an American citizen so he is sm
a native American.
LOL. *Liberal Religion* = ANY religion that isn't YOURS.

You don't want EQUALITY in religion.  You want yours to be SUPERIOR to all others.  You want to force your narrow and specific religious beliefs down the throats of every single American.  You can't get them into your religion willingly so you'll FORCE them to fall in step with you via government if you have to.


You couldn't stop abortion by killing abortion doctors, so now you'll do it through the Supreme Court.  And your God on earth just happens to be a president who wants the same things that you do, and so he's willing to throw the Constitution out the window (in violation of his Presidential oath) in order to replace it, not just with the Christian Bible, but with his own personal clone who will legislate her own narrow evangelical Christian views that don't even agree with the less radical, quieter forms of the Christian religion.


Government, schools and universities don't fall into the same categories.


There already ARE religous schools and universities.  Isn't THAT enough for you?


And what about all those many, MANY buildings with crosses and other religious symbols on them throughout this nation where people of like-minded beliefs congregate to worship the God of their CHOICE?  I believe they're called CHURCHES.  Isn't THAT enough for you, either?


Nope.  You're not going to be happy until you can be *superior.*


The sad fact is that in a country with freedom of religion, you never WILL BE, whether you like it or not. You can put 9 THOUSAND justices on the Supreme Court, you still won't be SUPERIOR, and I believe God, who is all knowing, knows that as well!


Because the Muslim religion is the only religion that says.....
Convert or die.
Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm

In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.


He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.


Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man?  Unless he has the same view of America.


Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
Religion

Religion - ?riduculous?


I will tell you what is more riduculous - those who truly believe that there IS NO GOD (wonder how in the he## you got here in the first place)...scary..


In regards to religion
It was Barrack Obama who quoted scripture during his speech at that dinner they had last week.  I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine and complain because Sarah Palin is a believer.  Well....according to Barrack Obama....so is he!  Palin prayed for our country and people freaked out.  Obama's church preaches about him from the pulpit gaining control in a dominant white world and how they are oppressed by whitey, etc.....that should be more concerning than whether or not Sarah Palin prayed for our country especially since Obama attended that church full of hate for 20 YEARS!!!  Sheesh.
religion
I believe that O sees himself as a Christian with a Muslim father and biracial.

being gay is not a religion
Your talking about two different topics.
My religion is not
Since my sole aim as a Christian is to have a relationship with Christ, I have no religion. I brought up same-sex marriage because of the posts alleging that homosexuals are missing out on some perceived "right." Marriage is not a right in the first place. It is a privilege, like having a drivers license. Blind people shouldn't drive and couples who can't copulate in the way God intended should not be married. Your husband is as messed up as you are. ;-)
It may apply to your religion, but

it doesn't apply to the Constitution.


Are you suggesting that your religion should be the one that rules and that everyone else's spiritual/religious beliefs shouldn't count?


For example, I know some people who don't look at abortion as severely as you do because they believe that life doesn't end, that we merely pass on from one life to another, and that there really isn't any such thing as spiritual death, and that your body is just the "box" you come in but spirit lives on forever and continues to live in different "entities."


I know some people who don't believe in religion at all.


I know some religious people who believe that God gave us free will and technology to help us survive as best we can.


Not everyone is FORCED to believe the exact same religious beliefs that you do.  But the one document we all have in common and to which are are all bound is the Constitution.


I respect you enough as a person to respect and defend your personal religious beliefs. 


Please return the favor.


I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway

I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people.  It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything.  Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people.  These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families?  Of course not.


I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time.  I think he is an excellent candidate.  He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around.  We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job.  I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.


Forget his religion,
he was a total bomb as a governor. He said one thing to get elected governor, then changed his mind when he decided to run for president. Then he went around the country bashing Massachusetts. Now there is a story in the newspaper that there were illegal immigrants painting his house even after all the problems with his landscapers. Such a hypocrite.
Sorry....I do not ever "check" my religion...
it is not put on on Sunday (or Saturday, whatever day one chooses to observe) and taken off on Monday. It is part of the fabric of my life. It is a constant. And that is not a bad thing. Have you read the papers of the founding fathers, wise men of great vision? They did not check their "religion" at the door. It is part of parcel of our founding documents and heavily influenced their decisions. People came here from England for the express purpose of religious freedom. THat is what this country is based upon. And from that desire for religious freedom came all our other freedoms. Our base set of laws is based on the Ten Commandments. Basic moral principles. So I beg to disagree. Our founding fathers lived their beliefs. They did not check it when they walked into Independence Hall.

The establishment of a state religion is prohibited by our constitution. Prayer inside the white house is not prohibited. They pray in the senate and in the house. They prayed on the steps of the Capitol on 9-11. Nothing in the constitution prohibits prayer, in fact it says freedom of religion and the free expression thereof and certainly says nothing about keeping it in church.

The freedom of religion clause was for a specific reason...that no government would establish a state religion and compel the entire country to follow it. It expressly provides for the free expression of faith. And it should not be a basis for discrimination.

Yes indeed, wise men of great vision, our forefathers. If you are interested in how they felt and thought, at this site are their quotes.

http://www.eadshome.com/QuotesoftheFounders.htm


Please give an example where she put her religion above the...
needs of our country. She has certainly done fine by the state of Alaska. Higher approval ratings than either O or Joe.
using religion as a blunt
instrument to beat your opponent over the head with is a very cynical misappropriation of the teachings of the great religions.  It does more damage to the believers than it does to the nonbelievers.