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Don't hold your breath. I think the

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2008-12-13
In Reply to: Enter the elephant in the room not beind discussed - sm

next 4 years is going to be a sink or swim economy, and I don't think many people or companies can swim anymore. Too many are at the end of the rope and about to drown.


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I wouldn't hold my breath. n/m

I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Don't hold your breath waiting.
He already said that he can't do everything at once. "It may take a year, it may take 2 years, it may even take the first term to do it all, but it will be done".
I wouldn't hold your breath
He has no plans whatsoever to bring the troops home in 60-90 days. He is already saying they need to stay another 5 years. Not to mention all the other dangerous areas he plans to send them too once out of Iraq. Then once he gets the Civilian National Security up and running and the kids in college, etc trained they can be diverted too. Maybe he'll bring home the troops for a short LOA (leave of absence), but they will go right back.

Why do people think he needs to be president to break promises. He's already making decisions and he already has broken promises he made on his campaign trail (just to get the votes).

Broken promise #1. I will bring the troops home. - He's already said they will be there for at least the next five years. I read another article that said it won't happen until 2011, and that is from an agreement that Bush signed. So in 2011 even then Obama will not have brought them home, it will be because of Bush. If people had their minds and eyes open during the campaign they would have seen this as a clear trick to get the people to vote for him).

Broken promise 2. I will tax the rich. - He now is coming out and saying he will not tax the rich.

Broken promise 3. I will bring change to Washington. - And just how is he suppose to do that when his entire cabinet is being filled with old Clintonians. People are sick of the Bush's and Clinton's and he goes and drags back these #$%(* we were so happy to get rid of.

Broken promise 4. I will not have lobbyists in my administration. - Uh hellooooooo. There are at least 15 people in his cabinet who are lobbyists.

So, there are just 4 of his campaign promises he has broken. Has has picked his cabinet, and revealed his (no taxes for the rich) plan already and also the fact that he is not going to be bringing the troops home. Seeing as this is on camera and in writing you can say that he has broken his promises. Unless for some reason you think that on the day of his inaugeration he's going to tell all these people that he picked for his cabinet that it was only a joke and instead he's going to hire more capable people.

People are really questioning his ability to lead (and this is in other countries too), which clearly by his choices and decisions he has already made he is showing that he cannot. I just thank god Biden is in there.
Don't hold your breath waiting for the fanatics
They're probably holding a blog conference on how to discredit/over-rule the Supreme Court.
Rahm shouldn't hold his breath. sm
Want us to understand what it is like to be an American. Now that is funny - more like NWO slaves.
If you would hold your Dem Congress as responsible as you hold me...
THAT would be progress. lol.
Breath of fresh air
I'm new to these boards and I just have to let all of you know that your posts are a breath of fresh air to me. I'm being suffocated by rampant conservatism here in the buckle of the bible belt. So many of your sentiments echo my own, and it feels good to know that I'm not alone.
So now you are rationalizing...in the same breath...nm

For me, I won't waste my breath saying anything to you, Sam, since you are always right!!!!!
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But we don't actually GETthem until we take a breath?
Then what happens to that soul if the someone who was supposed to get doesn't make it past the knife?
I'm not holding my breath......sm
I'll believe Obama gives me a tax cut when it happens, as well as help out with my health insurance. Can't tell from his website how "exactly" that's going to happen. His website if filled with a whole lot of words that are meaningless to me. Sounds good, but I don't see a lot of substance there, just like when he was campaigning.

Not holding my breath, but I'll come back and tell you if either of those things happen.



Not a Republican even though I leaned towards McCain over Obama, since he's such an unknown (and still is), and I actually decided I couldn't vote for McCain either....so my vote went to neither of them.


Don't waste your breath explaining it to them
They will only interpret everything you say as bashing. All logic is lost on some people.

I agree Obama is a breath

of fresh air and I love that he inspires people. However, I would encourage all Democrats, Independents, et al, to consider Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico. On the Democratic side, he has by far the best resume. He is a superior negotiator, served as head of the Department of Energy, sat at the UN, was an ambassador. Here is a link to his web site. It is quite lengthy, but you can scan over it and just look at the positions he has held and the things he has done.


http://www.governor.state.nm.us/governor.php


You are also a breath of fresh air. Agree 100%.
that kind of respectful standing in the world will be taken on November 4th and we will begin that journey in earnest the day after Obama's inauguration. You can take that to the bank.
the world is holding their breath
After 9/11 would the United States really elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama?
You are wasting your breath on these pathetic
people.  They have no life, or such miserable lives that they have all the time in the world to scour the Internet for more garbage to spout, so now this is what consumes their lives.  How sad -- NOT!  The people have spoken.  If you're not happy with the outcome, then MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY.  Maybe you can start a revolution somewhere else. 
You're wasting your breath
The word Palin sends them into attack mode.
Most bigots deny it til their last breath. I think that they really don't know
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Save your breath. People that believe
worldnutdaily are not the type of folks who trust reputable sources.
oooh - I like poopie-breath, can I use it? LOL
You instantly brought me back to my childhood. Gave me a laugh.
I agree it's outrageous that guy is still drawing breath
He should've been tried years ago, and if found guilty should have assumed ground temperature many years ago. However, it looks like four subsequent administrations share the blame for this not just the Bush administration, but yes, more should've been done especially by the Bush administration to be sure justice was served in this case..
We're not holding our breath. Owning up
nm
Amanda, you've wasted your breath. s/m
There is not a rational thought in any of these people's heads.  They don't care about hope or the possibility of change for the better.  The ironic thing about this is that if and when Jesus Christ were to return, these kind of people would be the ones who would crucify him all over again because of the narrow-minded prejudice that seems to feed them.  More's the pity.
I guess they know it is a waste of breath rehash...sm
the same old things over and over. I think most of the dems are probably on another board discussing real issues instead of some fantasy world. I see a pattern of poisonous pablum being fed and swallowed whole.
Amanda, sad to say, your're wasting your breath.

There is just no getting through to these narrow-minded people.  They don't want to give him a chance, because their tiny brains have been filled with the BS that has been fed to them by the publicity-seeking egomaniacs that they worship (Lamebaugh, Coultergeist, Beck who I think is a closet Nazi, O'Reilly).  Dittoheads -- what a great name for them -- they are incapable of having an original thought of their own.  One poster on here has the nerve to say "he has had his chance".  Give me a break -- that shows nothing but ignorance.  The man has been in office less than 3 months!! 


You cannot have a reasonable conversation with these types of people.  Thank you for trying, though.  You had to know you would get flamed on this one, just as I'm sure I will.  C'est LA vie.


Not just mistakes, he is being criticized for every breath he takes!!! nm
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Wrongo, just-the-bad-breath. I've seen it and I do know a bunch of
We have no time to be wasting on these ridiculous notions.

And this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. It has to do with whether or not you have one iota of common sense, and it's becoming more evident by the day that you don't.
I wait with bated breath to hear him repeat

how the US and Israel should be wiped off the face of the world.  You must be rejoicing! 


Don't waste your breath. No one with a modicum of sense can honestly
believe these things. Some folks just like to stir the pot. Besides, look how the conservatives have cannibalized themselves in the elections past and have attempted to do so this year (claims in South Carolina of McCain being a traitor, etc.).

Some people will only ever see what they want to see. Unfortunately, they are victimized by those that play into their prejudices and fears.
Unclench butt cheeks, take a deep breath, and
nm
Very well said. I agree. You and Sam bring a breath of fresh air to this board. sm
I am learning more when I research courtesy of Sam and the more I dig, the more scared I get of Obama. He hasn't said one word about how he is going to fund universal health care for one. I could go on, but won't as the libs flame away at anybody who does not agree with their views and I just don't feel like dealing with it tonight. The last I knew, this was a free country and we are all entitled to our opinions.
We're just trying to catch our breath after laughing over some of the blind right posts (and W. i
nm
Yes, we can always hold
more people see through the BS. Bush & Co. certainly are out in full force *catapulting the propaganda* and swiftboating anyone who disagrees, so who knows? Hopefully fewer people will buy it this time.

I'm sure your grandchild is the cutest and smartest!


You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

If you hold with J, that should be enough. nm
nm
We should not have to hold him up. He should hold
nm
Well hold onto your hat.....(sm)
because I know of 3 pub senators who are planning to say yea (despite threats from the GOP).  LOL.
Whoa...hold on there.

This is/was a good board with some good folks.  PERHAPS she just hadn't seen these posts.....maybe....hope that's the case.


Otherwise, I agree that it's probably time to boycott this board. I have long been aware of the definite bias of the powers that be.  But I still hold out hope for fairness in the long run.   And I was banned on the conservative board for calling someone stupid!!!!  (which I shouldn't have, I admit).


Oh, just hold that thought.

This is great - can we hold em to it? sm
First Rummy, then we will work on the rest. I think they are starting to realize they are getting backed up to the wall.

Boxer quote: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. Love it.
who they hold responsible for what?
nm
hold on to your hats

The bottom is starting to drop out of this thing.  I am positive the media (who are angry already about the phony "bias" attack by McCain) will NOT let SP's silence go unnoted. 


 


ifin' they did I would hold them

up as shiny examples of Moral Magnificance, same as Palin's daughter.


 


I''ve got a tux on hold

and a vacation day scheduled . . . just in case.


 


Someone needs to hold them accountable.
Obviously their own party is not going to. Glad to pile on Bush and the Republicans for every wrong they think they did, but accept no responsibility or ask accountability of their own party who let us ALL down.
Oldtimer, I do not understand that. No way, no how.
Nah, we have to hold our mouth in a
different position in that case. Must have been something else.
Whoa and hold on!!!

First and foremost, please express my personal appreciation to your husband for his service to this country.  By no means would I EVER  ridicule a military person.  They have served and DIED for the freedom we have and they continue to do so.  I say the war in Iraq is ridiculous and that is my personal opinion.  I think it was wrong from the getgo and I think it is WRONG to put our service men and woman in harm's way with many of them sacrificing their lives needlessly.  There has never been peace in the middle east and there never will be (IMO) all the way back to biblical times.


Bush's "excuse" for the war was to capture or kill bin Laden wasn't it?  So why has that not been done?  Because, again in my opinion, the war is not against terrorism but about the wealthy oil barons.


AND, I pray for you and your husband.  You too are making a great sacrifice and, again, your husband is serving his country and for that he deserves and gets from me the utmost respect whether or not I happen to agree with the politicians who sent him to war.  May he be safe and soon return to you.


Whoh! Hold on there.

CLINTON put a lot of those people in government spots. I think he called it Affirmative Action. 


 I worked for a patent attorney back then and after Clinton got in, half the patent office were, (how can I say it without being branded a racist?) Indian, Pakistani, and a mix of other races. My attorney would be furious when they would return a patent for an error, and he would have to do a 15 page brief on why there was NO error.


Why are all the gas stations and motels now owned, or mostly owned, by other races?  Where does the money come from?


There is a large VRAJ temple (sic) a few miles from my house. No one could afford to buy the property when it went up for sale because they wanted close to $1M for it. People from all over the world come there, yet a white person is not allowed to step 1 foot on their property or they will be arrested.


What's up with that?


I hold government as a whole
responsible and that includes all parties.  They are all greedy liars who just want to keep their seat and will say and do anything to draw followers in to get elected.  So this promise of change is not change at all.  It is the same political game that has been played since the very beginning.  They all suck.  I say we storm Washington with our pitch forks and torches and get all new people in office.  What say you?  LOL!
I don't hold much with "studies" but
all I know is my parents, who lived through the Great Depression credit FDR for saving the country.  I'll take the word of someone who has BTDT over any "study" any day.
I will hold to the tenants of one
one of the oldest, continuing faiths in the world. I don't see a quandry at all.