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Dream on........zzzzzzzzzz nm.

Posted By: mystery man on 2008-09-21
In Reply to: Yeah, and a large number of those new voters are - dee




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oh, dream on...
Silly, maybe.  Burned out on all of it, you bet!
I, too, Have a Dream......

We have just lived through a commander-in-chief presidency whose oppressive power and overwhelming hubris would undoubtedly have left our first early presidents in shock, if not armed revolt. They would have seen George Bush's world - in which strength was the byword of power and weakness an anathema - as the scion of European autocracy. These were, after all, men wary of armies and military power, who had sacrificed the very idea of executive strength to a tripartite form of government that would, they hoped, have the advantages of resiliency and responsibility. They understood - and embraced - certain limits that Americans may only be waking up to now.


Of course, given these last years of a government gone dark and ominous, it's not surprising that we generally don't. Facing the imperial, never-apologize, don't-listen-to-a-word-you-say, Caesarian, unitary-executive, commander-in-chief years of disarray, we Americans have - despite some online liveliness - largely suffered a failure of the imagination.


Have we ever had a president who told more countries what they "must" do? - I'd like to hear our next president speaking more like one of us and less like the ruler of the universe, more like the president of these imperiled United States and less like the autocrat of the planet.


    Of course, Americans, especially younger ones, have long been alienated from their government - aka "the bureaucracy" - and a national capital that projects the oppressive look of a Green Zone. That's where an eloquent black president, an improbable crosser of all sorts of boundaries, standing before us next Tuesday to express his -- and our - dreams and fears, offers an immediate ray of hope. In his very words that first day, he can potentially begin airing out the most secretive (and inefficient) government in national memory. He can remind us of our better selves and let the sun shine in.


    If we want to have a government we care about, we had better start exercising those imaginative powers fast. After all, if you don't use it, you lose it. Voting isn't faintly enough. Supporting Barack Obama isn't faintly enough. Either we start acting like we, the people, can set a few agendas of our own, write a few speeches of our own, or we might as well forget it.


I think that would be a dream ticket
but I don't know if they could get along after all of the nasty things they said about each other. Or at least, what Bill has said about Obama
So much for the American dream.

The more you work, the more they take away.  It will be the middle class people to suffer from this.  The rich will survive.  The low-income and no income people will be the ones to benefit from this.  This just encourages people to not work hard.  The more money you make by working hard.....you will be penalized and that hard earned money of yours will be given to someone who doesn't work.  This will be a huge snow ball that will eventually crush us entirely as more and more people work less and then the middle class and the rich will have even more people to support.  Like I've said before.....it sickens me.


What ever happened to accountability and self-reliance?  What ever happened to hard working Americans who were too proud to receive a hand out.  Now it seems that is all I hear....people screaming about not getting handouts and playing the victim.  Give me give me give me.  Instead of encouraging them to get a good education and work hard.....we are enabling them to remain "victims" while we foot the bill. 


Why should hard working Americans suffer?  Shouldn't they be rewarded for their hard work instead of penalized?  I guess that doesn't matter to Obamanation as he is rich and this won't hurt him....so why should he care.  As long as he is taking care of his low-income homies...I guess it is all good, huh?


Dream on, lady.
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Sorry, but that is just a dream. Obama is just
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One man's nightmare is another man's dream
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This is the story of one American's dream...sm
about to be shattered by Obama's spread the wealth plan, should he be elected.


That's all there is to this story.


This everyday guy, Joe American, has aspirations to better himself, much the same way most of us do.


I think most Americans completely understand his story. It strikes a chord with us, all aspects of it.

That even includes all the supposedly negative stuff that was dug up today about him, which does not detract one iota from what this story is really about.



question about a dream/obama

I heard something about Obama saying he had a dream of some sorts that lead him to believe he would be a leader or something along those lines?  Or is this just some gossip?


As Clinton said, the Obama dream is a
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that's called the American Dream -
don't we all want that? Is that not what everybody is fussing about - that we should all have the right to make as much money as we want to and keep as much money as we want to?

His life has been interesting, his story has been bought, so of course he is making the money.

Do you fuss about Oprah, Dr. Phil, Ellen... the list goes on and on - they don't share their wealth and I do not see you complaining about them.
My American Dream went down the toilet

last year when my retirement account was cut in half, and there has not been much work lately for DH or I, so there's no way to offset the loss and no way to put money back into it.


I don't gripe about anyone making money, but...and this is a large but....I believe this was just another piece of campaign propaganda. After all, it came out while he was running for president. What better timing?


Do you think if he wrote the book before running for prez, it would have sold as well?


Did you hear how much he gave to charities? I haven't. If you have a source of that info, please enlighten me.


It's the anniversary of MLK's "I've got a dream" speech....
....as I would imagine the DNC and Sen. Obama planned it this way.

I thought it was a very simple, well stated, congratulations, give by McCain. He was very sincere to me and meant every word.
You're living in a dream world
You think the thugs are targeting the poor neighborhoods where they assume there's nothing there to steal. No, they target those they think have something they feel "entitled" to. My neighbor up the street last February drove into his garage, got out of his car, and had a gun pointed to his head forcing him back into his car, where he was made drive to a local ATM. When he got out to go the ATM, he just sad the h@ll with it and starting running next door to a pharmacy. Why guns? Protection from what? Are you looney? Guns in a purse that the robber isn't betting on could mean his head blown off instead of yours.

The lady sitting in her living room a few weeks ago watching TV, when a couple of jackasses broke through her plate glass window and came after her with a gun. You think if I were in another part of the house, heard this, and could get my hands on a gun or a baseball bat, I would choose a baseball bat? I'd blown their freaking brains out.

What you gonna tell them? Wait a minute, please get close enough where I can get a good aim with this here baseball bat.

Violence is out of control in places it did not used to be. I have known several in our neighborhood whose homes have been broken into around Christmas time. They were just lucky not to be at home. And believe me, they have guns and would have been judge and jury real quick. It's their life or the the thieves.

It just hasn't happened to you. This isn't the same world I grew up in where we left our doors unlocked more times than not. I do live in a neighborhood where I would hope might be safer but that's exactly where all the low lifes come to...like I said they're not going to the poor neighborhoods. To steal what?
NO dream world here, Bush is one step better than Al Qaeda
He and Cheney are crooks. AL Qaeda are the bad guys but guess what, they aren't in Iraq? We were tricked into supporting a bogus self centered war for bush and cheney to make MONEY.

Hey, that's the American dream - I'm all for sitting on my butt and making $$$
Hurrah!!
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