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Even if Hollywood were all democrat (which they arent),

Posted By: why do you give their vote any importance? on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Yeah, figures that Hollywood is almost all democrat - -dont live in the real world either.nm

Those people are such a small, small minority that what they think or how they might vote doesn't really matter.


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Yeah, figures that Hollywood is almost all democrat
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wow, youre out there arent ya?
who are u even talking to????
And arent the mormons. They should stay
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Not everyone in Hollywood......... sm

is all gah-gah over Obama.  Listen to what Jon Voight had to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXKOotf3B2k


All I can say is Hollywood would be proud...
Quite an acting job. I call it *cheerleading.* Trying to push people into an emotional frenzy. There are many that think pushing someone into an emotional frenzy will get them to make a decision for the Lord. Trouble is, that just confuses people and when the emotion wears off the *cheerleaders* are gone, the person who has made the *decision* is confused, does not know why all the emotion left and begin to question, and have no place to turn. I personally believe the choice for God is not made in the heat of an emotional moment but in a moment of quiet, clear clarity built on a solid base of faith. I do not mean to cast aspersions on anyone's choice of faith. It is just easier to get through the every day if you have that quiet, strong knowledge of faith and not expect to slide through life on an emotional freight train. That does not mean I do not have my emotional moments, because I do; usually associated with music because that is one of the ways God speaks to my heart. However, those who make an emotional decision not based on faith and knowledge of God's word get disenchanted when the *cheerleaders* are gone. That is why counselors are present at the Grahams' gatherings, so that people can talk quietly with someone and understand their decision before it is made. That way they have something concrete to hold onto when the emotion goes away. Just my two cents worth.

God bless!
Way too many get sucked into that Hollywood
Because those "rich" Hollywood folks that so many O lovers love and follow, those folks have so many loopholes for their money, they KNOW they will not be paying taxes out the butt. They can afford folks to help them figure out where to put all that cash to keep it safe from Obama, while they sing, dance, and play for Obama.


Money to Hollywood?

My husband mentioned something about part of the stimulus going to Hollywood.  Can anybody enlighten me on this?  Is this really going to help?  Call me clueless, but I don't get how all this money being given to these corporations is helping.  Makes me a little  in the stomache actually.


Money for hollywood....(sm)
How many people do you think it takes to make a movie -- go all the way down to the key grip?  Again, that's jobs.  Not all job creation is going to be the jobs you want them to be.  There are numerous industries in this country and not everyone can build a bridge.
sure as heck NOT hollywood either!!!
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I think maybe the far left and most of Hollywood are antigun. sm
But your average every day moderate Democrat, at least the ones I know, all own guns.
The poster probably believes what Hollywood says
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Can you distinguish the difference between Hollywood
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IMO, Hollywood shouldn't get a cent

of money from the government.  That is just wrong.  Of all people that deserve money.....it wouldn't be hollywood!


Another group I've heard complain are athletes.  They are complaining because sales of tickets are down.  Well.....I'm sorry but I think it is absolutely ridiculous that these athletes make as much as they do anyway.....maybe if they would take a pay cut and lower the ticket prices.....maybe more people could afford to go to games. 


I live in Indiana and I am a Colts fan but I am thoroughly ticked that they threatened to leave Indiana unless we built them a new stadium.  We built them a new stadium at the expense of the taxpayers and the Colts have sucked major butt since then.  I would have told them to pack up and leave and not let the door hit them in the butt on the way out.  They make WAY too much money to sit around and make demands like that.  They could have easily built their own dang stadium....jerks.  Just think about all those local people whose property taxes skyrocketed because the colts demanded a new stadium.  I wonder how many people in the Indianapolis area lost their homes because they couldn't afford their property tax?  Makes me sick. 


And why in the world are the Army and the Air Force, etc. sponsoring race cars?  They are pretty much taking taxpayer money to pay to sponsor vehicles that costs a butt load of money.  That really chaps my ars too.  ARGH!


tell the Hollywood crowd that...they always promise to leave, and never go....nm

It gets worse.. -Money for Hollywood movie
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I agree. Wish Obama would go join Hollywood
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I saw an ex Hollywood agent talking about this on Hannity and Colmes. sm
He said being a conservative in Hollywood is the mark of death. Most of the stars who are conservative just never mention it, although I did see Kelsey Grammar on H&C and he freely admitted he was a Republican and might even think of running for office.  Like you said, go figure. Still, I doubt seriously the MSM will care about BW. It just isn't newsworthy. I could be wrong.  No biggie.
Yeah, did Elvis come back to life? Is this hollywood?
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If he wasn't in the White House, though, Hollywood would drop him like yesterday's garbage.
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Thank you Democrat
you are right. I'm wasting my time here.
Well said, Democrat! Well said.

Applauding.


Thank you, Democrat
My fingers are crossed too, Democrat...I hope and pray for all of us that our country can repair itself..I have always been an optimist in life, until the last few years..Yes, I will think optimistically..with hope in my heart..Thank you for your post..you are so kind..
Same to you, Democrat!
Hope you had the best day ever! 
Thanks, Democrat.
I've been following this case and have written to the Governor in protest.  Someone has to care about America's children.  It's obvious this particular judge doesn't.
Thanks, Democrat.

He raises some very interesting points, doesn't he?  I'm glad, too, that he wasn't fired.  I wish somebody like him (or he) WOULD run for President because I'd vote for him, as well.  After our invasion of Iraq, how DO other countries know they won't be next, and why wouldn't they want to protect themselves from an unwanted, uncalled-for American invasion? 


We need someone who can straighten out America and make it a much better place and lead by example so other countries WANT to be like us, rather than having our form of *freedom* forced upon them.


No, actually that was DEMOCRAT.

You really need to stop obsessing on me, Nina.  You've made your hatred of me known, but it's starting to get spooky.  Please find another hobby.  You're beginning to resemble a stalker. 


At the very least, you might want to scan the board before accusing me of saying things I didn't.  It will only take you a second, and you will appear to at least have some common sense and credibility if you do so.  Right now, I seem to be your target, and your hateful obsession is quite transparent.


Have a lovely day, dear.


Thank you Democrat..
I have been trying to make 2 points about Churchill for 2 days but it is like free association here. I get everything and the kitchen sink back. As far as Coulter, I was just putting an article out there that I thought was humorous (intended only for liberals as it knew it would offend others and even the heading  I posted  was attacked) and somehow that morphed into I am attacking Coulter and defending Churchill. Talk about pretzel logic. Again, thanks for actually reading my posts and actually understanding what I said.
Thanks, Democrat.

I hadn't read the part where they included the US troops in the mix.  What I read was that the Iraqi Prime Minister wanted amnesty only for terrorists who killed American soldiers and NO amnesty for terrorists who killed Iraqis.  I felt this was a slap in the face to America, and that's the precise reason I'm so outraged over this.


It's interesting that you said that's what you *make of it.*  Every time I've read something on this issue, I walked away just kind of scratching my head because I was unable to grasp an understanding of most of it.  Even the bill itself that was voted on yesterday did nothing but express the *sense* of the Congress regarding this issue.  How can it be so important to take up Senate time, including the debate and vote, when the end result is that they are EXPRESSING THEIR SENSE?  Seems like a big waste of time to me and lends even more credibility to Harold Ford's view that it was nothing but a stunt.


What I don't understand is why 19 Republican senators would publicly place themselves in the position of voting their *sense* that they were in favor of letting terrorists off the hook when it comes to killing our soldiers, given that the majority of Iraqis think it's okay to kill Americans. 


I suppose some sense could be made of the reasoning behind it if we were dealing with terrorists/insurgents that could be trusted, but with 65% of the general Iraqi population thinking it's okay to kill Americans and 88% of the Sunni population believing so, I don't feel comfortable placing any trust in them.


Democrat
I do not and did not excuse Mark Foley. He was wrong. What I have a problem with, is the same people who ask for his head are the same people who excuse the same behavior in Democrats who have done the same thing. Barney Frank...male prostitution ring out of his apartment. Not sure all of them were of legal age. Representative Studd. Had a sexual relationship (not internet) with a 17-year-old page. Not only not apologized for it, but accused critics of gay bashing and that his relationship, with a 17-year-old, mind you...was consensual. These are Democrats, and Democrats did not ask for their heads. But they ask for Foley's head. I am not excusing ANY of them. I find it odd that Democrats do not recognize a pedophile when he is a Democrat, but recognize him when he is a Republican.

No, extramarital affairs are not illegal. PERJURY is. In all 50 states. I didn't hear any Democrat, NOT ONE, asking for HIS head.

I can say without a doubt that they were ALL wrong, all morally corrupt, and all should pay for it. Clinton didn't, Studd didn't, Frank didn't. Foley IS. There is another BIG difference.


Same to you, Democrat! sm
Merry Merry Christmas and God Bless.
I am sorry, Democrat...I just don't get it....
You guys jump to champion Teddy when she has attacked me over and over, just like you claim some conservatives have attacked you...but it is okay for her, keep up the good fight. I am sorry, but that only tends to reinforce the feelings of most conservatives that liberals walk in lock step and support each other right or wrong. Please explain to me how it is okay for Teddy to call me a fool, tell me she cannot talk to someone who is mentally ill, has no common sense, that I defecated upon her...to name a few. Why is that okay for her, and you come along rah rah Teddy, and then complain when conservatives post similar, but not nearly as hateful...posts? Can you please explain to me why that is okay? Because, actually, in looking at your posts, you seemed a reasonable person and not prone to attacking anyone. Is it that same old well, I wouldn't do it myself, but if she wants to do it, I will support her thing?
Thanks Democrat..
Good to have yet another point of view. I have been reading Rabbi Kushner's Book, Overcoming Life's Disappointments. He uses the Old Testament (obviously) and Moses. What I really love about this guy is his working knowledge of so many faiths other than his own and how he can find, quite easily, the similarities...anyway, one thing I found interesting was that he said (and I certainly did not know) the Torah has 613 commandments and more of these deal with the poor (spiritually, physically, financially poor) than any other issue. Then along comes Jesus and what does he say??? My gosh, I think it is the same thing!!! I wish that some of the really right religious people (Dobson, Falwell, etc. could team up with Rick Warren, Al Sharpton, TD Jakes, Pope Benedict, Rabbi Kushner et al) and look at the issues that the Bible addresses other than abortion and same-sex marriage. The most mentioned virtue, it would seem, would be humility and the willingness to serve God by serving others, especially the least among us, no questions asked. In the Old Testament taking care of those in need was an obligation, not charity.
Democrat here
I do check in to see what's going on here once in a while but to be honest all the republican propaganda and lies disgust me.  Thank God the majority of the country isn't buying into it.
I'm a democrat!!!!!!
And I am not one of the two that you say have posted here.  But I am proud to be a dem!
I'm a democrat

I havent attacked anyone on here.  I have no problem with the republicans.  It takes both parties to run this country.  I do feel that we have gotten off on the wrong track and I do feel that Bush has not done a great job.  I dont feel that way specifically because he is a republican but because I just dont feel that he was the best guy for the job. 


I will vote for Obama.  If I had more choices, maybe I wouldnt vote for him.  But McCain worries me and I feel that given my opinions of him, I have no choice but to vote for Obama. 


I am a democrat
I did not vote for Obama.  I have a question for those that did.  Do you read the articles from Reuters and other papers from other parts of the world?  Do you watch foreign news?  Because I do.  I have found that you cannot get the real picture just by relying on our news media and papers.  If you want to get a true overview of what is going on, you have to go outside of us.  Have you not read/heard the news on O?  He does want to make our kids join some sort of community service organization.  He stated that would be mandatory.  He did have associations with people of a sordid nature that goes contrary to US benefit.  And the minute that someone, anyone, posts something that they have read or heard about that man, people become angry and defensive.  I am sorry that you all voted for O.  Can you not see what is happening?  Hitler was elected into office during a democratic state.  I am not saying that O is Hitler, what I am saying is that someone with such extreme ideas has been elected to the highest power and there are many signs pointing to the fact that we are going to see some changes that even those that voted for him are not going to  like.  I think it will be subtle, until one day people are like, what happened to us?  Also, McCain and Palin did not win, so let them be!  I mean come on already, you guys won, let it die.  I have never seen one person have such a following and a following that is so mean spirited. 
Duh! Wow, a democrat is saying that?
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I am and have always been a democrat, but
I don't agree with this at all. I guess I agree more with Clinton's 'don't ask, don't tell' stance. I also don't like how the whole 'gay movement' has attached itself to the Democrats. We need Democrats in power to help get us out of this economic nightmare created by the republicans, and this is distracting & costs us votes every time.
You might want to recheck that Democrat. sm
gt wished death on George Bush far below and again above!  Not only that, she wished some pretty terrible things on Laura Bush and the daughters.  Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it isn't so.  The thing is, there are two boards.  Nan and AG don't come here.  Get the picture?
Hi, there, Democrat!!! Nice to see you again!

With respect to the 10% tax, I still think $9,000,000 of disposable income goes a lot farther than $9,000, and 10% of $10,000,000 is just a drop in the bucket, compared to 10% of $10,000.


Anyway, my understanding of the "Fair Tax" is that it isn't based on income.  It's based on "consumption." It's (my paraphrasing) a federal sales tax instead of a federal income tax.  And spending up to the poverty level is tax-free, with their "fair tax rebate."


So if someone can afford to buy that 2006 Ferrari, they can also afford to pay the tax.  If someone can only afford a $500 1989 Mitsubishi, they will probably not have to pay any tax if it is considered under the poverty level.


This only addresses federal government tax issues, though.  It doesn't even begin to touch state, county and local taxation.


And from what I've read, I haven't heard what percentage of tax they are proposing. 


So I'm still not sure which I'm leaning towards.  I'm actually sort of swaying between the 10% and the "fair tax."


Nice to see you here, thanks for the invitation, and I agree.  We should debate here.


Wow, Democrat. I expected more from you. SM
It gets personal because it's made personal.  How you can't see that, I am not quite sure.  As for your statement elsewhere that AG and I had left before, nope. Sorry, didn't happen.  I didn't say I wasn't coming back either.    Anyways, how much more personal can you get than wishing someone to die, and I am not talking about the president.  It happened but the posts are gone.  We all responded to the person who told Nan she was old and going to die and burn in hell.  So I guess that's not personal, huh?  Tell me how many times you have seen one of us do that.  As far as debate, we give as good as we get.  I thought you knew that, but guess I was wrong yet again.  Oh well, live and learn!
In all honesty, Democrat. SM

How can you castigate someone for being on the liberal board when you are on the conservative board.  Just pointing out a little pot-kettle scenario.   Like Brunson, I won't be posting on here anymore.  And like Brunson, hopefully you will return the favor.  Have a nice evening.


Now Democrat, you know that isn't true. sm
And again with the "lock step", an allusion to Hitler and Nazis.  Just can't help it, can you?  It was posted on this board the conservative board by at least two conservative posters what they did not agree with Bush on, plus I posted it myself above.  So not true.
That's yellow dog DEMOCRAT to you.
Yellow dog DEMOCRATS. Get it straight.
Democrat tried and true
LOLOLOLOLOLOL..I guess now Im being told by a conservative basically what I am, LOLOLOL..Oh, how sad..Sweetie pie, I know what I am and it is a living and breathing LIBERAL DEMORACT..and Im passing the word around the country (through the local democratic club) and I have so far converted two republicans to become democrats..So, geez, I guess Im your worse nightmare..YEEHHAAWW!!
Well, he was a Democrat. What would you expect?

Johnson didn't have a haves, have-more, elite base like Bush bragged about having.  He just cared about normal everyday people.  How I miss those days.


Oh pshaw Democrat
You and I both know that anything I had to say would be blasted right out of the water, I would be called a racist, A LIAR, my entire family would be wished to burn in hell, and the list goes on.  One simply cannot argue or reason with people on this board.
Very true, Democrat.
I predict though that Tillman and his entire family will be ripped to gossipy shreds by the Con pirhanas and his mom written off as a liar with a socialist agenda before the story is over with. That's how they operate, we've seen it over and over again. You can sort of set your watch by it.
Yes, Democrat, didn't you
on how many care packages you send? NOT! Your very patriotism is at stake here...possibly even your soul during the rapture! LOL! Can you say superficial? These people think that supporting the troops consists of sending them junk food and cigarettes and plastering *W* stickers on their 6-mile-a-gallon SUVs, while soldiers die on a daily basis so they can wave their little flags. Little minds that need to keep things so simple...just like their bubble-brained leader....waaaaaaaaaaaay too much cocaine, booze, and Kool-Aid.
Agree with you 100%, Democrat!
I haven't responded to some of the proposterous posts from the last couple of days because I have heard and responded to the same old worn-out shreiking arguments before. I do commend YOU, though, for your typically thoughtful, well-reasoned, logical replies. Thank you.

I agree entirely with you that in Iraq we have created a laboratory for even greater anti-American rage and don't see the threat going away if we continue on the same course. And what can one say for the following but be very afraid for this country, especially since Addington is one of the 2 who replaced Libby. May God forgive us.

Vice President for Torture
Wednesday, October 26, 2005; A18

VICE PRESIDENT Cheney is aggressively pursuing an initiative that may be unprecedented for an elected official of the executive branch: He is proposing that Congress legally authorize human rights abuses by Americans. Cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of prisoners is banned by an international treaty negotiated by the Reagan administration and ratified by the United States. The State Department annually issues a report criticizing other governments for violating it. Now Mr. Cheney is asking Congress to approve legal language that would allow the CIA to commit such abuses against foreign prisoners it is holding abroad. In other words, this vice president has become an open advocate of torture.

His position is not just some abstract defense of presidential power. The CIA is holding an unknown number of prisoners in secret detention centers abroad. In violation of the Geneva Conventions, it has refused to register those detainees with the International Red Cross or to allow visits by its inspectors. Its prisoners have disappeared, like the victims of some dictatorships. The Justice Department and the White House are known to have approved harsh interrogation techniques for some of these people, including waterboarding, or simulated drowning; mock execution; and the deliberate withholding of pain medication. CIA personnel have been implicated in the deaths during interrogation of at least four Afghan and Iraqi detainees. Official investigations have indicated that some aberrant practices by Army personnel in Iraq originated with the CIA. Yet no CIA personnel have been held accountable for this record, and there has never been a public report on the agency's performance.

It's not surprising that Mr. Cheney would be at the forefront of an attempt to ratify and legalize this shameful record. The vice president has been a prime mover behind the Bush administration's decision to violate the Geneva Conventions and the U.N. Convention Against Torture and to break with decades of past practice by the U.S. military. These decisions at the top have led to hundreds of documented cases of abuse, torture and homicide in Iraq and Afghanistan. Mr. Cheney's counsel, David S. Addington, was reportedly one of the principal authors of a legal memo justifying the torture of suspects. This summer Mr. Cheney told several Republican senators that President Bush would veto the annual defense spending bill if it contained language prohibiting the use of cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment by any U.S. personnel.

The senators ignored Mr. Cheney's threats, and the amendment, sponsored by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), passed this month by a vote of 90 to 9. So now Mr. Cheney is trying to persuade members of a House-Senate conference committee to adopt language that would not just nullify the McCain amendment but would formally adopt cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment as a legal instrument of U.S. policy. The Senate's earlier vote suggests that it will not allow such a betrayal of American values. As for Mr. Cheney: He will be remembered as the vice president who campaigned for torture.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
Maybe not, democrat, but the one below this by gt was aimed at vs.
and it was typical gt.