Ever heard the term lesser of all evils?
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-13
In Reply to: another point here - Sandy
That is why Gibson was chosen. He has a reputation for being less biased than others. Still, he staged the interview to be intimidating, he had the glasses on the end of his nose condescending thing going, and the Bush Doctrine question was a huge trap. When she asked him for clarification he refused to do it and left her dangling. That was orchestrated. I have heard Democratic commentators say that was unfair; that if you ask sitting senators about the Bush doctrine you will get all kinds of answers.
There is a reason Obama has refused until last week to sit down with an interviewer who was not going to to pander to him, and he has been doing this for 18 months. He still refuses to to participate in town hall meetings where it is not scripted. There is a reason for that also.
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I am still looking at the lesser of all evils on the....
Dem side. Can't believe I am saying this, but right now, at this point in time, for me it is Hillary.
John McCain is not my present choice among the Repubs, but I could swallow that much easier than Guiliani.
Very interesting developments all around in this race. I know the polls don't show Ron Paul doing squat, but anyone who can raise $6 mill on the internet in 24 hours has someone interested.
It is becoming VERY interesting.
I will not vote for the lesser of two evils...
...partly because I honestly do not know which of the government-approved candidates is the lesser.
I figure [Obama} is to {McCain] as [shoot me in the head, I die right away] is to [stab me in the gut, I am in great pain for awhile, then I die].
I am voting 3rd party again this year. I can only hope that enough people will do the same, and whoever wins does so knowing he has no "mandate."
I'm just voting for him because he is the lesser of the two evils who are running for presidency
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No TRANCE here, many of us voted for McCain as the lesser of two evils.
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Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. sm
The 2 main choices are horrible. They only offer a continuation of the status quo. Nothing on bringing the troops home (now not 5 years from now), no sound monetary policy, reinstating our civil liberties, etc. Third party candidates have better platforms. People should be voting principles over party, or you deserve whatever you get.
Ever heard of the term "full of it"
You most certainly are forcing your prayers and viewpoints on us. When my son comes home upset because the "church lady" came to his school and got all of his classmates rounded up to pray and be "saved" and then go out to the church van for cookies and juice, but only after they've "given their life to christ, blah, blah, blah". YES YOU ARE CRAMMING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINTS DOWN OUR THROATS. When he said we don't believe in that and all his classmates and friends made fun of him and laughed and the "church lady" not saying anything like "that's not nice to do" or "that's not what Jesus would do". Making fun of children so that they will pray and get juice and cookies just like their friends did, and now showing up at their school to pray regularly. When I called the office of the Principal and asked what was going on he said, "oh that's Mrs. --- from our local church, she comes to pray with the kids who aren't getting it at home. Then told me if he doesn't want to join in he can sit in the classroom while the others are out getting refreshments. When the teachers in the lunch room have all her students stand in a circle holding hands saying a prayer before they eat. When your church lady roams the stores and corners us in the produce section and says to us "do I know you, you both look familiar", and we say no, and she says "have you given your life to christ" and we don't answer and she grabs our hands and says let me pray with you, and then holds on while she prays out loud, and us not wanting to be rude just stand there and look around at the other customers watching us. Then we continue on shopping and we see her heading down the bread isle and she walks up to another couple and says to them "do I know you, you both look familiar to me", and they guy looks like he wants to escape and the girl doesn't want to be rude and there goes the church lady grabbing their hands and praying. Yeah, I would say you are forcing your religion and prayers on us and our children.
But you know what. Gay people are not forcing you to have a gay relationship. So what if a homosexual teacher is at the school teaching about the different lifestyles. If you don't agree with it, then talk to your kids and tell them what your viewpoints and feelings are. It's no different than having a black teacher talking about Martin Luther King, or a Hispanic teacher talking about some way of life in Mexico. I'd rather have a homosexual teacher anyday teaching my kids and have them come home and ask questions with me and my husband rather than some church goers coming in to force my children into praying, and telling them they are going to go to he!! if they don't change their ways and join their "club" - a perverted practice in itself.
So what if our kids have a day of silence. It is an act to protest the name-calling, bullying and harrassment of lesbian and gay students and their supporters. If your against that I guess you are all for harrassing and calling gays and lesbians names (which reading your posts below I understand you think that is an okay behavior). For Martin Luther King you get a whole day off. For Jesus Christ you get a whole week off. So what if there is a day of silence.
There is no double standard. The word God is used in our schools and all over the place. This lie that you can't even mutter the word God in school without getting expelled is complete rubbish. It's just not true. I go to the schools and see the kids praying together on the bleachers, before sports games, in the hallways, ALL the time. Kids in the hallways talking about what they did in church, etc, etc. I can't even go to my quilt guild without the clique of "church goers" talking about church and sunday school and what they learned. Then in the next breath they make snippy and nasty remarks about other people they don't like. One girl left the meeting crying (they said something about they don't think they would like her husband very much to which she replied well good thing your not married to him then because I love him). Then she picked up her stuff and left. Then they looked at each other and said what's her problem. I looked at them and said "Do they teach you in your church and sunday school how to be rude and hurt other's feelings like you just did?" I walked out and haven't been back.
You know, a gay teacher is not going to turn your child gay, but the church people coming to our schools to covert and pray with the students, and getting caught in every store I got to telling me if I don't go to their church I'm a sinner and I'm on the path to he!! is totally different. And it's always the haters of gays people that always use that as an excuse "oh you can't utter the word god or you'll be hauled off to prison". Sheesh! I'd say nice try but its just complete and utter lies.
Ever heard of the term "full of it"
You most certainly are forcing your prayers and viewpoints on us. When my son comes home upset because the "church lady" came to his school and got all of his classmates rounded up to pray and be "saved" and then go out to the church van for cookies and juice, but only after they've "given their life to christ, blah, blah, blah". YES YOU ARE CRAMMING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINTS DOWN OUR THROATS. When he said we don't believe in that and all his classmates and friends made fun of him and laughed and the "church lady" not saying anything like "that's not nice to do" or "that's not what Jesus would do". Making fun of children so that they will pray and get juice and cookies just like their friends did, and now showing up at their school to pray regularly. When I called the office of the Principal and asked what was going on he said, "oh that's Mrs. --- from our local church, she comes to pray with the kids who aren't getting it at home. Then told me if he doesn't want to join in he can sit in the classroom while the others are out getting refreshments. When the teachers in the lunch room have all her students stand in a circle holding hands saying a prayer before they eat. When your church lady roams the stores and corners us in the produce section and says to us "do I know you, you both look familiar", and we say no, and she says "have you given your life to christ" and we don't answer and she grabs our hands and says let me pray with you, and then holds on while she prays out loud, and us not wanting to be rude just stand there and look around at the other customers watching us. Then we continue on shopping and we see her heading down the bread isle and she walks up to another couple and says to them "do I know you, you both look familiar to me", and they guy looks like he wants to escape and the girl doesn't want to be rude and there goes the church lady grabbing their hands and praying. Yeah, I would say you are forcing your religion and prayers on us and our children.
But you know what. Gay people are not forcing you to have a gay relationship. So what if a homosexual teacher is at the school teaching about the different lifestyles. If you don't agree with it, then talk to your kids and tell them what your viewpoints and feelings are. It's no different than having a black teacher talking about Martin Luther King, or a Hispanic teacher talking about some way of life in Mexico. I'd rather have a homosexual teacher anyday teaching my kids and have them come home and ask questions with me and my husband rather than some church goers coming in to force my children into praying, and telling them they are going to go to he!! if they don't change their ways and join their "club" - a perverted practice in itself.
So what if our kids have a day of silence. It is an act to protest the name-calling, bullying and harrassment of lesbian and gay students and their supporters. If your against that I guess you are all for harrassing and calling gays and lesbians names (which reading your posts below I understand you think that is an okay behavior). For Martin Luther King you get a whole day off. For Jesus Christ you get a whole week off. So what if there is a day of silence.
There is no double standard. The word God is used in our schools and all over the place. This lie that you can't even mutter the word God in school without getting expelled is complete rubbish. It's just not true. I go to the schools and see the kids praying together on the bleachers, before sports games, in the hallways, ALL the time. Kids in the hallways talking about what they did in church, etc, etc. I can't even go to my quilt guild without the clique of "church goers" talking about church and sunday school and what they learned. Then in the next breath they make snippy and nasty remarks about other people they don't like. One girl left the meeting crying (they said something about they don't think they would like her husband very much to which she replied well good thing your not married to him then because I love him). Then she picked up her stuff and left. Then they looked at each other and said what's her problem. I looked at them and said "Do they teach you in your church and sunday school how to be rude and hurt other's feelings like you just did?" I walked out and haven't been back.
You know, a gay teacher is not going to turn your child gay, but the church people coming to our schools to covert and pray with the students, and getting caught in every store I got to telling me if I don't go to their church I'm a sinner and I'm on the path to he!! is totally different. And it's always the haters of gays people that always use that as an excuse "oh you can't utter the word god or you'll be hauled off to prison". Sheesh! I'd say nice try but its just complete and utter lies. My @sscream is right!
I know a lot of people think that, about lesser
I feel like I'm still voting for evil, so I'd much rather put the vote somewhere else entirely or not vote at all. That was kinda my point, if more people voted honestly rather than defensively or for the lesser of 2 evils, maybe collecctively we could make a difference. Like I stated, it's not likely, I know.
It is, unfortunately, about picking the lesser of the 2
and since McCain has chosen Palin, I am starting to swing the other way. Like you with Obama, I do not trust her and do not share a lot of her values. And before someone calls me a baby murderer, I do not believe in abortion. It is many of her other issues, and I really don't want to get into an abortion debate.
I'm voting McCain partly because he is the lesser
of two evils. I am not voting for Obama because I am completely pro-choice and completely against gay marriages. I know people who have had abortions and I know who people who are gay. I hold nothing against them, but I can't with a good consicence vote for someone who believes these 2 major things are okay. I am by no means judging anybody for their choice of lifestyle. I personally just think it's wrong. Also, being of the pentecostal faith, I am happy that Sarah Palin (also of the pentecostal faith) was chosen as his running mate. I'm simply voting with my conscience. 
I don't like to use that term.
to be referred to as that either, but then again if she's referring to herself as a pitbull, then maybe she does. 
First or second term
I wonder when they will make Obama's birthday a national holiday.
What term would you prefer? I am sure you have
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still doubtful he will win a second term.
That he'll only have 1 term....
If 2 terms equals 8 minutes, 1 term equals 4.
Late term...(sm)
If the infant is able to survive outside the womb, then it would fall on the physician to do whatever possible to save that life (even if that includes refusing to do an abortion), just like any other. I don't think you'll find too many docs who will actually do abortions that late because it's increasingly dangerous for the mother. I think most clinics only go up to about 15 or 16 weeks anyway. I do think that if you are going to have an abortion it should be done in a timely manner anyway for the mother's health. I also believe that if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy, a late-term abortion may be necessary. And then there's the money. I wonder how many people have to opt for late-term abortions because it takes them that long to get the money for the abortion. Yet another reason to add in abortion to family planning services.
We can't wait until the end of his term as you put it
People are underwater every day and more following. Trying to pass a budget before it's necessary is just another way of spending money and has nothing to do to help the economy, especially with the thousands of earmarks in it. The congress and senate are still on the so-called honeymoon and O thinks everything will go smooth for the first 100 days.
Well, it's not. It's not better than when Bush was office. The house and senate are still fighting and nothing O says helps. Of course, NP and her threats don't help. Bipartisanship my foot! NP wants to take over and she's doing a very good job of being "acting president."
The term 'fundamentalist'
has acquired a negative interpretation. But all it really means is adherence to the fundamentals of any given religion. Militance and intolerance are implied in the term Islamism. These are not just ''fundamentalist Muslims' but a whole step beyond that.
He did not start that term FYI!
He was quoting what others had nicknamed the man already. You just can't let crazy people be crazy people, can you? Instead you have to pick some conservative leaning person to blame everything on. The man who shot Tiller is to blame for this...no one else.
Or how about this....if Tiller had never aborted so many fetuses late term for questionable reasons, other than the mother's health, he never would have been under investigation and he would never have been publically exposed. So whose fault is this really? I personally feel that if Tiller had stayed within the guidelines on this, he never would have made nation wide news in the first place.
However, regardless of his actions and whether or not I find them to be disgusting, he still should not have been gunned down. The man who killed him is a crazy wacko. No one told him to do it. He took it upon himself to do it. He is to blame for his actions....not Bill O'Reilly. So how about you stop the spin, stop the blame game, and actually make people take responsibility for their own actions.
That is a big problem with our country today. Too many people pointing the finger at others and not enough people admitting their own faults and taking blame for what they have done. Much easier to point the finger and blame someone else.
The term *Christian Right* was given our by liberals
so, giving us the defination of Christian right is condeming us for the title your group gave us.
In 35 years, I have never known of an ectopic going to term. nm
You are still misusing the term Neocon. sm
Not that you will stop, but it is irritating.
That was in his Illinois senate term...
this one was in the US Senate. Yeah, he shows up for the important votes like against the Infant Born Alive Act...twice...and now we find out FOR the bridge to nowhere and AGAINST Katrina victims. Still makes me question his judgments and his priorities. Sorry, that is the way I see it.
Christian was actually a derogatory term
used to describe the followers of Christ. Christian means "little Christ" because TRUE Christians are supposed to strive to be like Jesus.
We are to beware of false prophets and those who go around claiming to be Christians. You will know them by the fruit that they bear. Jesus told the parable of the wheat and the tares. It is hard to discern them by looking at them, but in the end the tares will be cast into the fire. The tares are those who say "I am a Christian" but then go about killing, plundering, etc. You are not a true Christian if you do these things. The wheat are the Christians who strive to be like Christ. Although they fail everyday, they get up and try again. When they sin they ask forgiveness and try their darnest not to do it again. When we mess up we feel conviction and that leads us to ask for forgiveness. No true Christian will go out and sin without guilt or remorse. That is like slapping God in the face.
I am a Southern Baptist. Anything taught at our church comes straight from the Bible. We look at all verses IN CONTEXT. My pastor won't even paraphrase! We believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. We strive to do everything that is commanded of us by Christ. No, we do not follow OT rules, because when Christ came he brought a new law. When Peter was in Goppa he was told by God that all animals were fit for eating, therefore we are not required to not eat certain foods any longer. We are not required to offer sacrifice anymore since Christ was the ultimate sacrifice.
One of the biggest commandments Jesus gave us was The Great Commission - to go and tell the world of what He did and the saving grace of the cross. We are to care for "widows and orphans" and to help those in need. We are to love our neighbor, but we are to use the Word to rebuke and teach GENTLY. If another Christian is out of line, we are to remind them of what Christ told us. We are not to judge the sinner, as we are also sinners. But we are to hate the sin, and we are to worn others of the sins they commit. Why? Because that sin SEPARATES them from God and in the end will cause them to spend eternity in he11.
I believe on Judgment Day there will be many people who say "I did not know!" and Christ will say "you heard so many times and refused to believe!"
It's amazing at the ease of which people can be saved yet they refuse to accept it. Jesus did all the work for us. All that is required is to accept that He did that and give Him the glory for saving you.
If you are a parent with older children, I'm sure you remember a time when your child was a teen and the closeness you had when they were younger seemed to disappear. Hopefully as they got older you again became close. That is what God wants with us. He wants a close, personal relationship with each one of us. But because of our sin that cannot be achieved without accepting Christ. Christ is the tie between us and God.
it is a term that Michael Savage came up with. But then he may not be the only one. sm
Michael Savage uses the term in talking about people who follow in a group blindly, just like sheep in a flock. He uses it a lot when referring to people who don't think for themselves and just follow the crowd along repeating what the crowd wants them to. And he uses it as a bipartisan term.
SOS, justice lifetime term. nm
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I'd say at least wait until his term BEGINS. nm
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No, necessary evil is just a term used to excuse
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Does it really matter in the long term.......... sm
who is blamed if this goes into effect? It will still negatively impact healthcare for all Americans, but more especially those who are elderly and have multiple comorbid conditions or anyone whom the government deems "terminal." Again, we have an instance of the government taking over an area in which they have no expertise. What's next?
"Feminist" is a very outdated term.
The term *Islamist* was coined
There are no moderate Islamists, just as there are no moderate KKK members or moderate Black Panthers. However, there are moderate Muslims.
I used the term "lynch" loosely
meaning they would be "up in arms."
forget one term, wouldn't you like to see him sm
impeached and thrown out along with Biden and Pelosi too?
34 major scandals during bush's first term
34 Major Scandals during Bush's first term:
Child Rapist Gets 60 Day Jail Term
Please contact the governor of Vermont to let him know that his is WRONG. See link below for his contact information.
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January 7, 2006
By: So Cal Lawyer at 3:04 pm
Wcax reports:
Vermont Judge Edward Cashman is coming under fire for handing out a light sentence to a child rapist.The judge says did it because he no longer believes in punishment and he wants to speed the rapist’s entry into a rehabilitation program.
Judge Cashman’s short sentence for an admitted child molester triggered immediate public and political reaction with some lawmakers saying he should leave the bench.
Judge Edward Cashman’s light sentence was the talk of the town. Wednesday he sentenced child rapist Mark Hulett to 60 days in jail. Hulett admitted he raped a little girl countless times when she was between 7 and 10 years old.
As a reminder, in California you can access the online Megan’s Law database of sex offenders here and find out what sex offenders have registered in your neighborhood.
You have just defined the term unmitigated gall.
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Most on the left misuse the term neocon. sm
I think they just like the sound of it, especially the *con* part.
maybe if you're black... or the VP...he's not going to live out his term
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"income redistribution" is just a fancy term for
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What sitting president doesn't run for a second term? nm
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I'm curious about your use of the term 'Black Power'
You seem to think that just because someone's black they're instantly for Obama. And that if he loses we'll riot in the streets and there will be 'blood shed.' Why? Because you think we're a bunch of crazed malcontents who can't stand to have our way? Now your real prejudice comes out. Interesting.
You do understand the term, "closet" democrat, don't you???nm
agree whole-heartedly on term limits...
Two terms should be IT. And they should only get the second term if they performed in the first one. Unlike the Presidency, no electoral college there and the vote of the people DOES count. We should USE that power.
Calling someone a homo is a derogative term
I do not believe you have never called someone a "fag___" because your posts about this subject say otherwise. You have been very hurtful and offensive in your posts. Most of them I just read over and say what ignorance is shown on your part towards others and commenting on issues you know nothing about.
You know nothing about our lifestyle yet you feel compelled to spew your bigotry and hatred towards one group of people.
You claim that we can control who we choose to love. You are so totally out of your league. You have no idea what you are talking about and yet you continue to flap your gums (so to say). Now calling us homo's has gone too far.
I don't care what race is in your family. It doesn't give you an excuse to call us homo's or any other derogatory term.
I would highly consider you not posting anymore on something you know nothing about.
And please do not try to bu!!sh!it us with your viewpoint that we can control who we love and who we are attracted to. You don't know.
You might want to consider taking some courses in tolerance (or don't they teach you that in that biggoted so called church you attend). You need some classes in tolerance, love for your neighbor - which by the way it says "Love thy neighbor as thyself" - not love thy neighbor only if they are straight and slander all others and call them hurtful and offensive names and try to make them feel inferior to you. Here's a quote for you - and no, this is not a religious topic, it fits with this subject.
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke [reason with] thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.
-- Leviticus 19: 17-18 (KJV)
You need to give this whole topic a rest. I would advise you not post anymore. The more you post the more offensive you are becoming.
One thing I'll agree with you on - we disagree on this subject, but just like I don't take nobody calling me a nigger I'm not going to let anyone call me a homo or fag or lesbo either.
Keep your offensive posts to yourself.
A blaring example of the term, "blind faith".
"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
'Bout sums up your pinhole view of the world.
Yup - the term has acquired a filthy connotation.
But we have noticed this degenerate tendency on the far left before. Let's not fall into this practice ourselves.
Murdering near-term babies isn't violent?
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Oldtimer, it is used in late-term abortions. To get rid of babies.
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Bush wants to 'leave his mark' on his term in office.
He'll probably do his best to continue skrooing up this country right down to the very last seconds he is officially able to sign anything.
Really? You're so sure he'll be reelected for another four-year term?
Unless he does declare himself dictator, in which all bets are off, and like "m" said, he could be there for life.
Oh joy.
Compassion is one thing......long-term handouts
In the case of New Orleans, the majority of those do not want a help up,they want what they had known prior to Katrina, a monthly hand out!
When the greatest majority of those folks are STILL without jobs, it is because they do not want a job. They didn't have jobs before and they certainly do not feel they should find one now.
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