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Gotcha. Reject candidates who promise what we know they can't deliver.

Posted By: TechSupport on 2009-05-26
In Reply to: Definitely! And insightful, as usual. - A.Nonymous

...although that does raise the little problem of who, then, we could possibly vote for?

I read an interesting statement over the weekend and can't find it now, but basically it was this: When we scream at our politicians we're really screaming at the electorate that put them in office. And at bottom, that really is the problem. The politicians are exactly what our electorate has chosen. And frankly, I don't see the electorate changing for the better - especially younger voters - for which I think we can thank at least one generation of parents who didn't parent, and teachers who didn't teach.


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NBC has the freedom to reject the ad!
The Catholic church has the freedom to produce the ad, NBC has the freedom to reject the ad, and everyone in this country has the freedom to choose whether or not they watch NBC. That is how it should be, freedom for everyone!
Alaksa Women Reject Palin sm

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/


click above


Yes, God deliver us from the evil Kool-Aid

Gotcha now. sm
Must be the soy, or a priest from their childhood, or alcoholism, or liberals made them do it, something.

These two evangelical leaders are the only 2 we know about. I'm still shaking my head about Haggard. I'm not even ready to speak on him, and his *spiritual* advice to the president.
gotcha
I actually agree with some fo the anti smoking laws. I think that smoking in restaraunts should be prohibited, but I grew up in California, where that was passed when I was a small child. Some are stupid--smoking in bars should be up to the owner of the bar (in my opinion, anyway.) I have an interesting mix of feelings on this. At any rate--thanks for the interesting read. I was unaware of this, as well.
Gotcha,
It's a lot like telling a little kid in January, 'Touch your tongue to the pump handle.  Honest, it's really fun.  It won't hurt!'
Gotcha!
You're so typical. People like you always vomit out the same remarks when someone challenges you. You're a laugh riot, and you just made my day. Obviously, I've gotten under your skin.

I only hope you have half as much fun and laughs as I do in my life. Though you so desperately want to believe I have a "hellish, miserable world." Sorry to disappiont you, sister. I love every single day.

I got a hoot out of your message board karma/bad juju warning. I guess you ARE that gullible. Lol!!!!!



"FYI, in school I was the cute popular girl..."
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha - uh, riiiiiiiiight.
No, she'll deliver another baby after a secret pregnancy. nm
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You Betcha, and we Gotcha!
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Either side can fail to deliver on promises. My only hope and prayer is that
I'm honestly not 100% sure either one of these candidates can do it so where do people like me fit into the picture? I'm not even sure I will be able to vote for either one, and that's based on my personal values. I don't feel Barack is the man, like many seem to, but I don't feel McCain is, either. I know I'm not alone. I don't believe socialized insurance is the answer, I believe in going after insurance companies that dictate what patients can have done and set premiums too high for people to afford and pharmaceutical companies that pay people off to push their drugs, whether it be doctors, groups, etc. I'd like to see all with tax cuts, not just big companies. Wonderful if they get a break for keeping jobs in the US, but that should be just one of many tax cuts for all, starting with taxes paid at the pump. What about public education? We pay fees and still have to buy extra books and other supplies for our kids' education, yet many children are less educated now out of public high school than ever before because they are too focused on the proficiency tests to actually teach a well-rounded fund of knowledge, so what are the proposals to fix that mess?

No matter who gets elected, they've got quite a job on their hands, and I sincerely doubt either will be able to live up to their promises. And no, I don't necessarily blame Bush for all the problems in this country, but rather I blame all presidents and congress, past and present. Somewhere along the way, it stopped being for the people, that's for sure, and more for their pocketbooks (both Dems AND Repubs). Since so many seem to see Barack as the second coming, I certainly pray that you are right, but I really doubt it. He's had zero experience so who is to say he won't buckle under the load once he realizes what he's gotten into? And McCain isn't my idea of perfection, either, so don't reply by bashing Republicans. I want to hear facts that aren't based on party views but honest-to-goodness facts on who has the best plan in line for these things. And how do you know who is being sincere and who is just making empty campaign promises?
Do you promise?.....nm
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You will, I promise you! nm
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I promise you
that no matter how many drugs are floating around out there, I'm still not going to use any. It doesn't mean I approve of other people's use of them. Homosexuals can sodomize themselves silly. It doesn't mean I'm going to feel all warm and cozy for them and tell my children, "Look isn't that special?" Approval of sin makes a mockery of God.
He can promise the world now....
just like Clinton did. Then he will sit down with advisors who will tell him in a kind way what are you, nuts, there is no money. And he will have to come on TV and blame it all on the Republicans and that is why you won't get your tax cuts. Then he will turn right around and increase taxes on the wealthy who aren't near as wealthy anymore since the crash happened, more jobs will be lost, and we will go from recession to depression.

I don't think he will mean to cripple the country...but it will be crippled nonetheless.

I promise you, you will not wear us down.
Many may change their minds if you settle down somewhat and work, until the next vote, to present your argument.

However, you will not wear down or exhaust the will of those who are as passionate about upholding their values as you do yours.

Once again....another broken promise by the big O.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/


 


So much for the change Obama promised to bring.  Sounds to me like it is the same old political bullcrap of the rules not applying to certain people.  Why bother saying stuff when you know you can't or won't do it?


Only if you actually PART this time, as you promise to do.

But then again, you've repeatedly proven your fondness for the truth, so I think it's safe to say that you're not going anywhere.  Out of all your posts, though, this one was just too precious to ignore.


As far as lumping me in the same category as GT and Observer, pardon me while I get all misty-eyed because this is probably the nicest thing you've ever said to me.  By telling me that, you're telling me that I'm a person who sees things clearly and realistically.  You're telling me that I have compassion for people who are in dire need of compassion these days.  You're telling me that I don't worship a false idol like you do.  You're telling me that I can see through the soulless, heartless, brainless moron whose boots you would gladly lick as you kneel to worship him.  You're telling me that I support our troops because I value their lives and only feel their lives should be placed in jeopardy when absolutely necessary to defend this country and not for a war borne out of lies and deceit by a president who most likely packed away his plans to attack Iraq in the box marked Personal and brought them with him when he relocated to the White House.  You're telling me that I have the insight, wisdom and intelligence to recognize when I'm being lied to and that I have the courage to vocally object to it, rather than make excuses for a man who only truly cares about rich people. 


Best of all, you're lumping me with two other posters whose views I thoroughly respect and am always eager to read, people with brains and consciences and hearts. 


So right when I become all misty-eyed at the wonderful compliment you've paid me, you say you're going to leave.


I suppose I can take solace in knowing that it's just another of your many, many lies, that you're probably just one of the many voices in MT's head, and I hope she doesn't kill you when she finds out you've complimented me, although I thoroughly understand the mounting panic and frustration those of your ilk must be feeling.


I hope you have a delightful evening, and once again, thank you so much for the wonderful compliment. 


 


I promise if you learn to spell. nm

How can he break a promise when he is not POTUS yet? nm
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He's not a promise keeper yet. Don't jump the gun.

These press conferences are to let everyone know who's going to be in his cabinet and to reiterate that he had no contact with Blago. Why does he keep saying this? He supposedly is going to release documents "next week" that will prove it. So, I will wait until next week.


I just read an article by Morton Kondracke in the local newspaper where his health plan cost may top $3 TRILLION. That's almost as bad as the bailout plus. Where does he think this money is going to come from? THAT's the question I want answered.


All his other lofty promises, too. All will cost money. Who's going to pay?  He can't tax the businesses as they are the key to jobs and, if he does that, the jobs will be gone. He can't tax the working people because, if he does that, he's backing out on his promise plus the working people can't take any more taxes.


With unemployment at such high rates and more every day, how long do you think unemployment benefits will last? Already Michigan and another state have 0 balances in their unemployment benefit chest. The governor of PA (Rendell) stated he only has enough employment benefits in the coffer to last 6 months IF there are no more people opening a claim. Without people working, they aren't paying taxes. Without tax money, the government can't provide benefits. Even SS is at risk to run out before the stated time mentioned a year or 2 ago.


So tell me, will he wave a magic wand and the money will appear? Probably, which will lower our dollar purchasing power and put us more into debt.


It's time for people to wake up. The depression is here. The reason the O read about FDR is to try and figure out what to do, but FDR didn't have a crisis such as this. This is above and beyond anything that ever happened. 


 


That was McCain's campaign promise...
McCain promised "line-by-line", Obama promised "reform." Also, it is against the constitution (via Supreme Court) for the president to "line-by-line" - they can only sign or veto - that's it.
No dog? ANOTHER campaign promise broken?
I guess we shouldn't be too surprised that the "tax cuts for 95% of Americans" will "not likely survive a budget battle with Democrats on Capitol Hill".

That's good, Obama. Some leadership! And blame it on the legislature. That's your MO, isn't it,Obama? Blame everything on everyone else.

You love to have your cake and eat it too, don't you, you pathetic L O S E R.
Yet another campaign promise broken..... sm



This originally included pictures, but apparently they would not post here.

 

A Boeing 757 and a fleet of armored cars for Michelle’s sight seeing tour!



Michelle One




On Sunday, President Obama flew back to the United States on Air Force One. His wife, two daughters and her mother did a bit of shopping in Paris before taking their own Boeing 757 (C-32) over to London to do some sight seeing.



We all remember Obama’s admonishment to corporate CEO’s in February:



“You can’t get corporate jets, you can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers dime.”



Apparently that doesn’t apply to his wife.



The London Times opened it’s description of Michelle’s visit this way:




Motorcycle outriders, armoured Chevrolets and bullet-headed men in raincoats criss-crossed London yesterday as Michelle Obama and her daughters spent a second day on an unofficial visit to the capital.



The Times went on to describe that when Michelle and the girls arrived at Westminster Abbey, the building was closed to tourists with people already in told to “wait against the wall.” An American visiting the Abbey said “Right then I knew it was probably someone from our ‘royal family’.”

 




Michelle’s motorcade shut down the London street above as the First Lady of the World and her children go for Fish and Chips at a pub in Mayfair . The entourage inside the restaurant was 15 people while dozens more wait outside. Include the dozens of Air Force personnel to fly and service the plane, embassy personnel and other staff and we are talking about a serious expenditure of tax payer dollars.



Meanwhile, millions of Americans have lost their jobs and won’t be able to take their family on a summer holiday. Despite their circumstances they’ll still be expected to fork over the tax dollars to pay for Michelle’s trip!




 

tell the Hollywood crowd that...they always promise to leave, and never go....nm

More like Clinton's broken promise to cut our taxes

That little campaign platform that he would cut our taxes (middle income) when elected.  Within days after being elected he raised our taxes to the highest ever in record history.


Also, according the to U.S. Treasury website that tracks the national debt, there was never a surplus because the debt rose every year.  I know a lot of people don't like to hear that, but that is just the facts in black and white


During Clinton the National Debt was:






















































Fiscal
Year
Year
Ending
National Debt Deficit
FY1993  09/30/1993  $4.411488 trillion  
FY1994  09/30/1994  $4.692749 trillion  $281.26 billion
FY1995  09/29/1995  $4.973982 trillion  $281.23 billion
FY1996  09/30/1996  $5.224810 trillion  $250.83 billion
FY1997  09/30/1997  $5.413146 trillion  $188.34 billion
FY1998  09/30/1998  $5.526193 trillion  $113.05 billion
FY1999  09/30/1999  $5.656270 trillion  $130.08 billion
FY2000  09/29/2000  $5.674178 trillion  $17.91 billion
FY2001  09/28/2001  $5.807463 trillion  $133.29 billion


As you can clearly see, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a budget surplus that he subsequently turned into a deficit.  Its true the budget was "almost" balanced in 2000, but it never reached zero, let alone a positive number.  Also, the growing deficit started in the Clinton budget, not the first year of the Bush admin.


To understand what happened requires understanding two concepts of what makes up the national debt.  Therefore I will attach a link that explains this.


I do know a lot of people really liked Bill Clinton as a President.  No doubt about that.  He had charisma and was very mesmerizing to listen to him speak, but you just can't toss out facts.


http://www.letxa.com/articles/16


P.S., this article states you can access the US Treasury website to see for yourself.


Obama already trying to back out of his promise of change.

By Tim Reid, The Times of London


Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.


The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.


One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."


The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.


And what about the promise Bush gave, I think about capturing him?
Well, we saw how far that went. By-by Bush.
Here we go again....another campaign promise bites the dust...

Obama Not Closing Door on Possible Health Tax


Referring to proposals to tax workers who get expensive insurance policies, Obama, who campaigned against the tax last year, said, "I don't want to prejudge what they're doing."


The unions are going to flip over that one...taxing of benefits.  Benefits are the backbones of unions and their power over their members.  Has it finally sunk in people...you cannot believe a word this man says.  He lies as easily as the rest of us breathe.  And the amazing thing is....it works for him.  Blinded by the obamalight.  lol.


Bush Breaks Nation's Promise to Veterans

This isn’t new (it’s from May), but it’s the first I saw it. I found it interesting but not surprising.  Our Veterans deserve much better.


The source is: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.aspx?c=klLWJcP7H&b=727693&printmode=1


VETERANS
Bush Breaks Nation's Promise to Veterans


Appearing yesterday at the Arlington National Cemetery to honor generations of sacrifices by American servicemen and women, President Bush said, "At our national cemetery, we take comfort from knowing that the men and women who are serving freedom's cause understand their purpose and its price." Yet the reality has been that the administration that most recently has sent those men and women to fight for freedom's cause has failed for live up to government's age-old promise to "care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan."


BUSH'S 2006 VA BUDGET HITS VETERANS HARD: President Bush's 2006 budget proposal included legislation that would raise veterans' premiums more than 100 percent on prescription drugs and add an annual $250 enrollment fee for veterans who want care for conditions not directly caused by military service and who generally earn more than $25,000 a year. The administration has recommended these same proposals in each of the past few years, only to have them beaten back by Congress each time. The user fee would increase costs for nearly 2 million veterans nationwide.


WAR VETERANS EXCLUDED FROM COST OF WAR ON TERROR: Conservatives in Congress rebuffed an effort to include $2 billion in emergency money for veterans' health care in the recently passed $82 billion Iraq war supplemental. The president's request increased the VA budget a mere 2.7 percent (including the increased co-pays and enrollment fees), hardly sufficient to deal with an expected influx of Afghanistan and Iraq war veterans in the coming years. Nearly 28,000 soldiers who served in Iraq and were discharged have already sought care at a VA facility. Of the nearly 245,000 veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan already discharged from service, 12,422 have been in VA counseling centers for readjustment problems and symptoms associated with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. VA Secretary Jim Nicholson has said the budget circumstances are not "dire," yet Senate Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Larry Craig (R-ID) was forced to increase the 2006 budget request by $1 billion. Dave Autry, a spokesman for the Disabled American Veterans, said, "Vets are owed a debt and the government has said they are eligible for health care. The government needs to pay for it. It's a continuing cost of our national defense."


BUSH WANTS TO SHUT DOWN VETERANS HOSPITAL IN HIS OWN BACKYARD: Veterans in Bush's backyard, near his ranch in Crawford, Texas, are protesting his administration's decision to close a VA hospital in their town. "It would be, in my opinion, a tragic mistake to shut down our hospital, especially during a time of war when tomorrow's veterans are in harm's way today," said U.S. Rep. Chet Edwards (D-Waco). In May 2004, then-VA Secretary Anthony Principi announced he would be closing three veterans hospitals nationwide and partially closing eight others. For his work, Principi was rewarded with an appointment to the chairmanship of the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) commission.


VETERANS GROUPS SLAM BUSH BUDGET: More than 300,000 veterans' claims are pending before the VA, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, and the number of claims pending for more than six months rose from 47,000 in 2003 to 75,000 at the end of March 2005. The deteriorating condition of VA health care has elicited plenty of criticism. The American Legion called Bush's budget "the wrong message at the wrong time to the wrong constituency." The Vietnam Veterans of America said the budget did a "disservice to those of us who donned the uniform to defend the rights, principles, and freedoms that we hold dear." And the Veterans of Foreign Wars decried Bush's decision as "especially shameful during a time of war."


McPalin new FL stump promise: Will SHARE THE WEALTH of
McSocialist: Drill baby drill, my friends, my friends, my friends, my friends. Alternative nuclear energy safety: Blah, blah,, blah, blah!. Yeah, baby!
McCain: " I Can't Promise to Endorse Sarah Palin"

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/12/14/mccain-wont-endorse-palin-for-2012/


 


'Bout time, too! This science shows such great promise in
N/M
candidates
I think they will both be true in the future to who they are now (as well as they can be with having to work with Congress to get things done), but "what you see" depends on where you're looking and who's doing the talking.
Candidates

Why not let felons vote?  No different than providing amnesty to millions of illegals to get their vote, which is going to happen whether we like it or not.


Obama certainly talks the talk. I have a couple of problems with him.  One his pastor.  He might also consider running as an AMERICAN, not an African-American.  It matters not that he happens to be a black AMERICAN. Let's be done with racism on BOTH sides.  Sometimes I think the only way we, who happen to be Caucasian,  can ever satisfy the African-American community is to become slaves for a few hundred years.  Let it go already.  There is not one person alive today who ever was a slave or ever owned a slave.  Let's move on.


McCain.........while I honor his service to this country, if I hear about his POW years one more time I think I'll vomit.  I saw him on a talk show where he was asked about how many houses he owns and he immediately launched into his "years as a POW where he didn't even have a table much less a house". 


God save this country, neither candidate is going to help Him.


Yes...too bad the candidates don't
talk to real Americans, not the CEOs, the Hollywood elite (why anyone take any political advice from a so-called movie star is beyond me) when cameras aren't around. Most candidates perceive us as being sheeple, say some pretty things and we will follow, no matter how high the cliff is you're brining us over. I don't care how many houses you own, what faith your father was, if you had an affair or if you wear a flag pin. Get to some frickin' issues when you debate each other, don't give us the run around and jab each other. Neither one of you are stellar candidates. You both have faults, you both have good points, but for cripe's sake, talk about something that matters to us!
candidates

instead of obama or mccain, any other candidates you may vote for?


http://www.votesmart.org/election_president.php


 


I hope each one of these candidates
wins!  They've been there, done that, and in my opinion, should have the strongest voices.  I just hope it isn't too late for this country by next election day!
then again, they ALL scare me - all the candidates
       
Presidential candidates

I think MTs should run the country!!!


Candidates cars
This was fun to read

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160091
Do either of the candidates have a plan
for this financial crisis that does not involve the taxpayers bailing out the US? 
Independent candidates have to
have at least 15% in opinion polls in order to participate in the presidential debates.  Right now....the only candidates eligible to participate in the debate are, of course, McCain and Obama.  To me....that says that no independent has enough backing to do any good except for take votes from the other two.  There is nothing wrong with voting for an independent though.  If you feel Ron Paul is a better candidate, you have the right to vote for him.  However, some say it would be throwing your vote away since the likelihood of him actually win is slim.  You never know though.  Do what you feel is best and go with your gut.  If you truly believe in Ron Paul, vote for him.  No one can knock you for that.
If one of the candidates was not Obama I would be...
tempted. However, in my view, it is way too important for the future of this country to doa protest vote. same reason I am voting a straight republican ticket. The thought of Obama as president and a majority in congress...makes it way too important for a protest vote this cycle...at least for me.
Here are some other parties and their candidates.

The Libertarian Party has nominated former Congressman Bob Barr, the Constitution Party has nominated pastor and radio talk show host Chuck Baldwin, and the Green Party has nominated former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Ralph Nader declined to seek the Green Party nomination and is running as an independent candidate.  That is in addition to the Ron Paul fans as well as McCain and Obama.


What did we get out of the debate last night?  That same ole crap Obama and McCain have been throwing around since the get go.  Imagine what that would be like with all these other people thrown in the debate as well. 


They only cover 2 candidates because
we don't demand that they do otherwise.  Power to the people!!!!
I wish there was a rule that the candidates HAVE TO
avoid them and go off in a direction of their own choosing. Especially when it's something they already said before. This second debate had me yawning.
here are a few if my candidates lose -
1. Get up Wed. AM, after election, turn on TV. See my faves didn't win. My reaction: 'Oh, cr@p!'

2. my actions: Eat cereal and drink coffee.

3. Where to go from thERE?
BACK TO BED!

4. What will I flee? My low-paying MT job, which most likely will never get any better.
Now I know how the candidates feel!
Say one thing and everyone wants to dissect your every move! LOL

sbMT for President! who wants to be my running mate???

HAHA J/K
Anyone interested in the candidates houses? SM

On the www.apartmentherapy website, they feature the candidates homes.  I love that site.  Anway...spoiler alert, if anyone cares.


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What I found interesting is Mitt Romney lives in a comptemporary home on the water, which is pictured next to Barack Obama's conservative georgian style home.  


OK, not of vital interest, I just love looking at homes.


Scary that you would support either of those candidates.
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and now they've found out all 3 candidates'
Reminds me a lot of LA hospital employees getting fired for snooping in Britney Spears' medical records. I don't know what exactly there is to snoop in passport records, but it's still a privacy breach.