Hmm, pictures I saw showed her children there with her.
Posted By: How do you know again? sm on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: if she is on the TV screen - BDayes
There are people who travel for business and take their families with them, but they don't bring the family to their business meetings. DUH? What grade are you in? If you're going to get into a battle of wits, please at least come armed.
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MORE FAMILY PICTURES OF THE NEW FIRST FAMILY??
PLEASE READ THE FINE PRINT AND FORWARD TO OTHERS.
How come we haven't seen or known about some of these....?
Barack Obama's grandmother, Sarah Hussein Onyango Obama
U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama's
uncle has been a prisoner in his own home,
trapped by post election violence that has left
more than 600 Kenyans dead. 'If Barack Obama
were elected, he would improve relations between
Africa and America because he had his roots in
Africa', his uncle said.
Malik Obama, older brother to Barack Obama, holds an undated picture of
Barak, left, and himself, middle, and an unidentified friend in his shop in eastern Kenya .
Luo dancers from the Senator
Barack Obama Primary School
Barack has stated his support for Luo Raila Odinga (Opposition Leader in
Kenya who signed a 'Shariah pact' with Muslims and claims to be Obama's
cousin) and is married to Ida Odinga. They have four children - two sons and
two daughters. His oldest son, Fidel, is named after Fidel Castro.
Barack's father, Muslim, hard-drinker, was married three times, attended
Harvard and returned to Kenya . Obama claims he was an atheist,
but he was raised Muslim and was given a Muslim burial at Barack's
family's request.
With mother Stanley Ann Dunham. In his own autobiography Obama writes,
'How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars
that I have never quite had the courage to explore.' (His father was still
married to his first wife Kezia in Kenya at the time.)
His father's only visit while Obama was in Hawaii
Mother's 2nd husband Lolo Soetoro (Indonesian Muslim),
their daughter Maya, and Obama.
Abandoned by his father and shipped off by his
mother to his white grandparents, Barry Sotero
becomes Barack Hussein Obama. Obama would
describe his grandparents as 'white folk.'
(Yeah, 'white folk' that would NOT abandon
you, their grandchild. Shame on you Obama.)
Barack stands behind Kezia (stepmother) in a Kenyan family shot.
(Including brother Abongo ' Roy ' Obama who is a Luo activist and
a 'Militant Muslim' who argues that the black man must 'liberate
himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.' )
'Abongo's new lifestyle has left him lean and clear-eyed, and at
the wedding, he looked so dignified in his black African gown
with white trim and matching cap that some of our guests
mistook him for my father,' Obama wrote in Dreams
From My Father
The pictures say it all.
The only arrogance I see is the arrogance oozing from Barrack Obama.......and oozing from Pelosi.
Pictures removed.
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Oh you've seen pictures!!!
Well, there's the proof then!!!!
I think Lamont won a primary in a state where if I'm not mistaken tends to be a blue state. I think there's still and election to be held. He'll probably win, because as you stated above. If a state tends to go Democrat or Republican they will tend to go that way again. I believe the polarization has reached such a point that the liberal states will become even more left, and the right states will become more right. There were a few pesky little states in the presidential election that went to republicans that usually go to democrats, but presidential elections are not always cut and dry like Senate and House elections tend to be.
Yes, I scrolled through the pictures...
quite articulate, those protestors, and sooo fond of the 4-letter words. Can't figure out how the *Stop Racism* got in the peace rally though. As to the picture of Jane Fonda hanging in effigy...I don't agree with either side hanging anyone in effigy although I can't count the number of times I have seen Bush hung or burned in effigy That being said...Fonda should have been tried for treason for North Viet Nam visit. She should be in jail.
Yes, if you look at the pictures of the rally.....
that sign WAS pretty prominent...along with others with various other epithets. What, pray tell, does that have to do with a *peace* rally? What does vandalizing govt property have to do with a *peace* rally? In my opinion, it seriously undermines the credibility of said *peace* rally.
I'm saying CNN reported showed it rt b4
Still looking, but since CNN repeats their stuff so much, you can probably catch the report later this p.m.
Not sure the link showed up.
http://www.culturejamforlife.com/nobama2008/
They just showed last night on the
news a house in Houston that is used for polling, about 100 people show up to vote there. The husband is a precinct official and his wife makes the coffee, etc.
Postings and pictures. (sm)
I have just removed and banned a poster over tasteless, and obviously altered, pictures of the President-elect.
We are not going to engage in that kind of posting here about any official. If you have any questions or issues with this, you can discuss it with me via email.
Moderator
They Sure Showed That Obama
By FRANK RICH
Published: February 14, 2009
AM I crazy, or wasn’t the Obama presidency pronounced dead just days ago? Obama had “all but lost control of the agenda in Washington,” declared Newsweek on Feb. 4 as it wondered whether he might even get a stimulus package through Congress. “Obama Losing Stimulus Message War” was the headline at Politico a day later. At the mostly liberal MSNBC, the morning host, Joe Scarborough, started preparing the final rites. Obama couldn’t possibly eke out a victory because the stimulus package was “a steaming pile of garbage.”
Less than a month into Obama’s term, we don’t (and can’t) know how he’ll fare as president. The compromised stimulus package, while hardly garbage, may well be inadequate. Timothy Geithner’s uninspiring and opaque stab at a bank rescue is at best a place holder and at worst a rearrangement of the deck chairs on the TARP-Titanic, where he served as Hank Paulson’s first mate.
But we do know this much. Just as in the presidential campaign, Obama has once again outwitted the punditocracy and the opposition. The same crowd that said he was a wimpy hope-monger who could never beat Hillary or get white votes was played for fools again.
On Wednesday, as a stimulus deal became a certainty on Capitol Hill, I asked David Axelrod for his take on this Groundhog Day relationship between Obama and the political culture.
“It’s why our campaign was not based in Washington but in Chicago,” he said. “We were somewhat insulated from the echo chamber. In the summer of ’07, the conventional wisdom was that Obama was a shooting star; his campaign was irretrievably lost; it was a ludicrous strategy to focus on Iowa; and we were falling further and further behind in the national polls.” But even after the Iowa victory, this same syndrome kept repeating itself. When Obama came out against the gas-tax holiday supported by both McCain and Clinton last spring, Axelrod recalled, “everyone in D.C. thought we were committing suicide.”
The stimulus battle was more of the same. “This town talks to itself and whips itself into a frenzy with its own theories that are completely at odds with what the rest of America is thinking,” he says. Once the frenzy got going, it didn’t matter that most polls showed support for Obama and his economic package: “If you watched cable TV, you’d see our support was plummeting, we were in trouble. It was almost like living in a parallel universe.”
For Axelrod, the moral is “not just that Washington is too insular but that the American people are a lot smarter than people in Washington think.”
Here’s a third moral: Overdosing on this culture can be fatal. Because Republicans are isolated in that parallel universe and believe all the noise in its echo chamber, they are now as out of touch with reality as the “inevitable” Clinton campaign was before it got clobbered in Iowa. The G.O.P. doesn’t recognize that it emerged from the stimulus battle even worse off than when it started. That obliviousness gives the president the opening to win more ambitious policy victories than last week’s. Having checked the box on attempted bipartisanship, Obama can now move in for the kill.
A useful template for the current political dynamic can be found in one of the McCain campaign’s more memorable pratfalls. Last fall, it was the Beltway mantra that Obama was doomed with all those working-class Rust Belt Democrats who’d flocked to Hillary in the primaries. The beefy, beer-drinking, deer-hunting white guys — incessantly interviewed in bars and diners — would never buy the skinny black intellectual. Nor would the “dead-ender” Hillary women. The McCain camp not only bought into this received wisdom, but bet the bank on it, pouring resources into states like Michigan and Wisconsin before abandoning them and doubling down on Pennsylvania in the stretch. The sucker-punched McCain lost all three states by percentages in the double digits.
The stimulus opponents, egged on by all the media murmurings about Obama “losing control,” also thought they had a sure thing. Their TV advantage added to their complacency. As the liberal blog ThinkProgress reported, G.O.P. members of Congress wildly outnumbered Democrats as guests on all cable news networks, not just Fox News, in the three days of intense debate about the House stimulus bill. They started pounding in their slogans relentlessly. The bill was not a stimulus package but an orgy of pork spending. The ensuing deficit would amount to “generational theft.” F.D.R.’s New Deal had been an abject failure.
This barrage did shave a few points off the stimulus’s popularity in polls, but its approval rating still remained above 50 percent in all (Gallup, CNN, Pew, CBS) but one of them (Rasmussen, the sole poll the G.O.P. cites). Perhaps the stimulus held its own because the public, in defiance of Washington’s condescending assumption, was smart enough to figure out that the government can’t create jobs without spending and that Bush-era Republicans have no moral authority to lecture about deficits. Some Americans may even have ancestors saved from penury by the New Deal.
In any event, the final score was unambiguous. The stimulus package arrived with the price tag and on roughly the schedule Obama had set for it. The president’s job approval percentage now ranges from the mid 60s (Gallup, Pew) to mid 70s (CNN) — not bad for a guy who won the presidency with 52.9 percent of the vote. While 48 percent of Americans told CBS, Gallup and Pew that they approve of Congressional Democrats, only 31 (Gallup), 32 (CBS) and 34 (Pew) percent could say the same of their G.O.P. counterparts.
At least some media hands are chagrined. After the stimulus prevailed, Scarborough speculated on MSNBC that “perhaps we’ve overanalyzed it, we don’t know what we’re talking about.” But the Republicans are busy high-fiving themselves and celebrating “victory.” Even in defeat, they are still echoing the 24/7 cable mantra about the stimulus’s unpopularity. This self-congratulatory mood is summed up by a Wall Street Journal columnist who wrote that “the House Republicans’ zero votes for the Obama presidency’s stimulus ‘package’ is looking like the luckiest thing to happen to the G.O.P.’s political fortunes since Ronald Reagan switched parties.” There hasn’t been this much delusional giddiness in these ranks since Monica Lewinsky promised a surefire Republican sweep in the 1998 midterms.
Not all Republicans are so clueless, whether in Congress or beyond. Charlie Crist, the moderate Florida governor who appeared with the president in his Fort Myers, Fla., town-hall meeting last week, has Obama-like approval ratings in the 70s. Naturally, the party’s hard-liners in Washington loathe him. Their idea of a good public face for the G.O.P. is a sound-bite dispenser like the new chairman, Michael Steele, a former Maryland lieutenant governor. Steele’s argument against the stimulus package is that “in the history of mankind” no “federal, state or local” government has ever “created one job.” As it happens, among the millions of jobs created by the government are the federal investigators now pursuing Steele for alleged financial improprieties in his failed 2006 Senate campaign.
This G.O.P., a largely white Southern male party with talking points instead of ideas and talking heads instead of leaders, is not unlike those “zombie banks” that we’re being asked to bail out. It is in too much denial to acknowledge its own insolvency and toxic assets. Given the mess the country is in, it would be helpful to have an adult opposition that could pull its weight, but that’s not the hand America has been dealt.
As Judd Gregg flakes out and Lindsey Graham throws made-for-YouTube hissy fits on the Senate floor, Obama should stay focused on the big picture in governing as he did in campaigning. That’s the steady course he upheld when much of the political establishment was either second-guessing or ridiculing it, and there’s no reason to change it now. The stimulus victory showed that even as president Obama can ambush Washington’s conventional wisdom as if he were still an insurgent.
But, as he said in Fort Myers last week, he will ultimately be judged by his results. If the economy isn’t turned around, he told the crowd, then “you’ll have a new president.” The stimulus bill is only a first step on that arduous path. The biggest mistake he can make now is to be too timid. This country wants a New Deal, including on energy and health care, not a New Deal lite. Far from depleting Obama’s clout, the stimulus battle instead reaffirmed that he has the political capital to pursue the agenda of change he campaigned on.
Republicans will also be judged by the voters. If they want to obstruct and filibuster while the economy is in free fall, the president should call their bluff and let them go at it. In the first four years after F.D.R. took over from Hoover, the already decimated ranks of Republicans in Congress fell from 36 to 16 in the Senate and from 117 to 88 in the House. The G.O.P. is so insistent that the New Deal was a mirage it may well have convinced itself that its own sorry record back then didn’t happen either.
Those are good pictures.
One job I would hate to have is the photographer who has to follow the president around and take those photos. Taking some of those pictures would seem almost intrusive sometimes - like the one with his kids sitting on his lap and Michelle kissing him. Kind of like the proverbial third wheel, you know?
Anyway, they are nice pictures.
yes, I agree, it is said that the pictures
that are not yet published are much worse than those published and everybody is aware of this. So, why publicize them? The every day Muslims would react in horror, but silence, pacified by the promises of O. I think that even the extremists will restrain themselves.
You are right, times and cicumstances have changed, people mellowed down, let's keep it that way and let people listen what O has to say.
I hope that Ahmedinejad will be the loser and Mosavi the winner. The elections were today.
well actually 15 of the hate filled showed up from the sm
church from Kansas carrying signs reading, "God hates America," "Thank God for dead soldiers." It was ridiculous. The police had blocked them off a section and in front of them were a group holding the US flag so as to block them out of site from the family and friends.
Sir Percy showed up on the C-board Y-day
and said this:
*The real terrorists are in the WhiteHouse.
And his murder will only spawn a replacement.
Do you think for one second they are going to roll over for the imperialist invaders?
How soon do you think WE in America would stop fighting an invader?
Please - try to crack open your mind, just a sliver.*
Sounds like. S.P. is a little hopeful he will be replaced. I mean, S.P. thinks the real terrorists are in the White House, so he or she obviously is on the terrorists side.
You know there are extreme leftists in this country, and some occasionally show up on these boards hoping that someone takes the country down. You know it. You can deny it all day, but it's true.
I am surprised they showed the signs sm
They actually showed them several times. A lot of people agree with that particular message. I don't agree totally with it, but do find many aspects of the official story suspicious and some of it downright stupid. Usually when there is one lie, there are others so the families request for a new investigation is valid.
The song was a little corny, but like the message. They are definitely right about the manure. I heard a lot of conservatives were there.
"present", meaning he showed up, but could not
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You are right, Sam. I live in OH, just 1 poll showed
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I have pictures of O being brought up in Kenya
where he went to school and going to school there costs a lot of money. I am talking about K-8 grade, not in America and that is during his younger years.
We showed plenty of patriotism..(sm)
last Nov 4. Now THAT was a grass roots movement. Maybe you guys just didn't have the right kind of leadership for this thing. Maybe next time you should look into getting a community organizer.....
I saw a lot of pictures and to me it looked just like the convention,
Republican, all old and white. I saw no black faces in the crowd, just white. I think veiled attempt (at first) as an anti-Obama rally. Just talking with husband tonight. I am old and have never seen anything like what is being spouted now days, very dangerous situation for Obama, I think. Just heard man asking radio station today about concentration camps in America. What? Why is everyone running scared? What in the h. is going on? I think people are hysterical and the insanity has gone too far.
Yes, but it was not going to be discussed and your pictures posted on the internet...
for the entire country to see and discuss. Her privacy, which she is entitled to as a 16-year-old, has been invaded in a very nasty way. Sorry, that is the way I feel about it. I think it was terribly wrong for dailykrap to post it and terribly wrong for someone to spread it even further here. But that is just me.
A few signs in the audience showed that some people
abcdefg
Our local news showed some people
who waited outside for 5-6 hours in freezing temps just to save maybe $50. Lord have mercy. I guess I'm thankful I don't need or want anything enough to do that!!
You're right about the me-me-me and it makes me sick. People will kill each other for a dollar!!
They are nice boys. Learn how to post pictures. nm
Next time, make the effort to remove the pictures. SM
They don't come out. Also, the colors obscure the names of the people who made the quotes making them worthless. How is one to argue about who said the quote if you can't read it.
Gary Muchler - hope the pictures post
Gary Muchler
And finally, they're a dwindling number and may soon be extinct, so let's take a quick look at the conservative counter-protestors who have been voicing their support for the war. You've already met memorial vandal Larry Northern, but now I'm proud to present ardent Bush supporter Gary Muchler. Here he is in Wilkes-Barre PA, trying to snatch a sign at a rally for Cindy Sheehan:
Just a thought, but instead of assaulting peaceful protestors perhaps Gary could sign up for the military. He loves the war, he's already got the camo pants (which the Army would be delighted to show him how to belt properly), and he'd get into shape right quick. C'mon Gary, sign up today!
Gary joins the elite ranks of the Pro-War Rogues' Gallery, which features previous honorees The Unknown Patriot:
...and of course, Morans Guy:
I agree that Sam's and Gourdpainter's posts showed the differences (sm)
between the two candidates but I think you are absolutely clueless when it comes to your judgement. Sam's posts are always backed by facts. No one is her "follower." We who are voting for McCain are often grateful that she takes the time to find these facts and post them for all to see. While I can appreciate your admiration for Gourdpainter, your insults to Sam are completely unfounded and uncalled for. You Obama-backers are always looking for proof---show me some proof that Sam's posts are garbage. Proof please?
That reminded me of Putin's staged pictures with the tigers.
Sorry, I do not want to see Obama shirtless. He has no personal dignity, and thinks he's incoming royalty.
And George showed SO MUCH experience and wisdom when he first took office, right?????....sm
He got in on Daddy's coat tails and by and large had Daddy's former administration aides and cabinet members calling the shots and try to cover his idiocy. When is everyone coming out of denial about this past administration?
Like you showed Bush? ROFL. Gimme a break.
Respect is EARNED, my friend, not given.
PIx didn't come through - pictures were all of guys waving large guns around...
Guns, guns, guns and threats, threats, threats.
to see McCain's pictures click on the red cross marks, disregard the 1st...nm
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Good thing Cheney showed up on camera with his dire pronouncements
Fearmonger? Yep, every other day it was a red or an orange or something.........Cry wolf one too many times and no one believes you anymore.
When Obama said we can't give up our ideals for safety... they showed Bush's embarrassed face
His lame patriot act was being referred to.
Bush was sort of in national guard but never showed for the physical... that counts? Cheney was nev
duh?? ya'll?
We are all God's children. nm
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My children.
My children are grown now, well into their 40s. I have four wonderful grandchildren, whom I adore, the oldest just turned 18. Our nuclear family puts God first and we follow his teachings. Abortion would never be something any one of us would contemplate for even the slightest bit of time. My children and grandchildren do not do this out of fear of reaction from the family but out of love for God and his creations. We consider abortion murder. It isn't something we would ever do. I know that the left spins this daily as being fear of retribution. It's too bad that they have lost the ability to see that there are those of us who grieve for the loss of human life, no matter what stage it is in when it ends.
i certainly would. I f you do that to children then you s/m
should have NO rights at all.
do you have children?
christians are not perfect. I don't know of one who claims to be. Yes, things do start at home but that does not mean that adults and children don't make poor choices. I've not heard anyone in the McCain campaign say they are "very religious." Besides, being "religious" doesn't necessarily mean Christian and being a Christian does not mean perfect.
Also, I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, far from it actually, but I have worked for what I have. I don't expect someone to provide my health insurance or pay my mortgage. I'm supporting McCain.
Tell me what do YOU consider a WONDERFUL FAMILY?
so how do you think that children
have abortions without the parents ever finding out, if they receive a bill in the mail? It has to be paid for by someone other than the parents, or else they would know about it. perhaps not your particular clinic, but it happens.
Wow, children, get over it already...
it's a cartoon, plain and simple. You are the ones making something out of nothing. Find something else to rant and rave over.
Most had their children taken...
away from them and were shot when they tried to escape......it was a horrific event without a doubt. Some couldn't bear to watch their children die so the opted to die to. BUT, I refuse to have someone tell me what I can say and what I can't say because it offends them.
May I ask how many children do you have?..nm
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Neither can little children, and look how many have
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I actually have 2 children....
And I happen to believe that there is alot more to a relationship than sex.
What about the children
who have been killed by homosexuals and they get very little press? You feel this way because of your son. As a Christian we are to speak out against this, even if it is our children doing it. My children understood when they were young that this was wrong and it was their choice if they did do it. I would NEVER support that choice. This has nothing to do with my head in the sand. It has to do with reality and doing the right thing. Most people who have family members who commit this sin choose to have their head in the sand and ignore what Christ tells us. I won't be one of them.
So you are actually saying that children are not autonomous. sm
That's absurd. And of course, we hear so many cries for Johnson's daughters to join when we were in Vietnam. Not. Because Republicans don't do things like that. Liberals do. That entire thread is one big joke.
They are his children, grown or not. sm
It is their choice and I don't think they should sign up because of the security reasons, just my opinion. And, yes I think he would talk them out of it.
Abuse of children and the right
Hold on just a minute....from your post you are making it sound like conservatives and the right condone molestation of children. If that is what you were implying you are absolutely wrong. Please, please, please do not categorize all Christians and conservatives with the wacko extreme cults that dare do these things to children. I believe a few weeks ago there was a long thread on the C-board about child molestation. Personally, I think anyone who hurts a child should die...period. If it's sexual molestation the very least that should happen to a male offender is castration...I'd prefer the death penalty...
Again, this implied generalization that all conservatives are racists, homophobes, and child molesters is absolutely wrong.
actually what you name your children speaks
What about the lady that named her daughter Emer Gency because that's the sign she saw going into the hospital? Sure this may be folklore but if you are an MT you know like I do people make really poor choices when it comes to naming thier kids and I would never elect one of those braniacs VP!!!
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