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How lost an individual you are....

Posted By: lamb to the slaughter!! sm on 2009-06-26
In Reply to: Treason!!! Get behind our President, you Judas! - Kathy Pudenda

I am not a republican and it doesn't take much for one to now see that this president has NO loyalty to this country. NOTHING AT ALL!! He has an agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with this country but control!! You need to wake up!

Treason? 'a more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation'...

How very sad for you that you don't even realize that in a "free country" one is allowed to speak out against their president. THAT IS NOT TREASON!!! that is what sickos in Iran call treason.... do you akin yourself with the likes of those sick tyrannical leaders?

That is exactly what Obama is doing. Speaking out against our president is our constitutional right...to keep things in check and NOT allow government too much power or control into our lives.

So sorry for you. You are truly the very kind Obama longs for.... he needs to take care of you don't ya know? You are obviously too ignorant to do it for yourself!


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    My husband's father told him back in the 50s that we would experience something like what is happening today and stated it would be worse than the ཙ crash. It is sure starting to look that way, but we will survive some way, I hope.


    We need to pray for the people on SS now that cannot survive. I, for one, would love to help them, but can't help ourselves at this moment.


     


    Then let each individual
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    we. we, we....is there an individual among you?
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    an individual wrote this and -
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    I personally think that we have him now as POTUS and we should stand behind the man and show respect for the office he is holding and give him a chance to do something before we continue to tear him down.

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    On individual incomes exceeding $250,000.
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    i don't care what the individual income is
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    Individual liberty? Why allow the Government
    nm
    I was asking what individual people who identify themselves as liberals....
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    We'll just call this your quota of "straw man" logical fallacies for the week, shall we? You may not post another one until next week.
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    Where is it going to end?  What happened to all the taxes people have been paying in for years anyway?  Why was it not being used for those things all along?  And why should I in Georgia have to pay to give people in other states money to fix things?  Alaskans are not giving me part of that money they get every year from their oil...  Maybe that is selfish - but if they continue to take and take from me, then what I am supposed to do? 


    BTW, I'm not lost

    I'm posting a response on a public board.  Is that a problem?


    Oh all is lost! All is lost!!! What are we going to do?
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    I don't believe that. You are a lost cause.
    nm
    You lost me there
    nm
    ? you lost me
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    You seem to have lost your way.
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    but probably at the swimsuit competition! ROFL!!!!!
    I would have lost also...
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    Wait, that's not quite what I wanted to say, is it?
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    In my opinion, everyone lost...
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    You seemed to be lost as to what a government
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    Government is and will always be the most corrupt thing in this society. You want a corrupt government taking YOUR money and purportedly giving it to the "needy"? Like I trust them with one red dime of my money!

    I feel sorry for you that you don't know how to be civilized without government interference in your life.


    i was lost for a minute. thank you
    x
    I realize this is probably lost on those who don't
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    Redskins lost
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    Election's over. You lost.
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    Ho hum, lost me after second paragraph
    x
    Lost in the shuffle here seems to be
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    Considering what we lost in the last 8 years
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    Hmmm...it lost, get over it. One day
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    nothing has been lost until the SC decides
    nm
    Hubby and I both lost $5K. Not much

    if it would have been 6-digits, but it wasn't. We moved our money to the Money Market IRAs. That stopped the fall, and I've been hoping to get back into something soon, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.


    We knew we didn't have enough to retire on, but were hoping it would be higher than it is now. Mine was doing great until November. His was really a flat line and I was planning on rolling his over to the company I am with last September.


    Some people are destined to make money, others are destined to work their butts off to survive.  I know friends that....everything they touch, turns into money, while we work twice as hard and everything we touch, turns to dust.  Oh, well.  That's the breaks.


    Jealous over what?! You lost me there. nm
    X
    You don't have an opinion..... you had a lost
    xx
    They lost any credibility with me
    when NOW and other 'institutional' feminists refused to condemn Bill Clinton's anti-female shenanigans.  Any feminists think he should not be having sex with interns and/or forcing himself on female campaign workers?  Anybody?  Hello?   cricket..cricket......cricket...cricket
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    Administrator: I am at a lost as to your statement...sm
    And realize I am only trying to understand what is going on here. Both boards have had their fair share of attacks, but there is rarely a day that goes by that it does not happen on this board.

    That said, when you say no *slurs* against the president that leaves a lot unsaid. Are you instructing us not to speak unfavorable to the president on forumatrix?

    If this is a pro-Bush forum then I would be wasting my energy to come here. I missed the posts that got this started so again realize I am trying to understand what is going on here.
    OJ lost his mind years ago.

    I dunno why anyone would give him airtime to discuss this book. 


    She lost my vote with that proposal :-(
    nm
    umm.. she was being sarcastic - guess that was lost
    x
    I hope you don't stay lost

    for an unncessarily lengthy period of time.