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I'm watching C-SPAN.(nm)

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-02-06
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If you had an attention span, you'd know.

On C-Span, they just put on what McCain's

amendment would cost...$420B. It replaces the 600-some pages of the old bill but still includes tax cuts, entitlements, housing assistance, decreasing the tax rate from 35% to 25% so businesses can survive on their own, tax custs for us, and job creation. I still have not found it in writing. Maybe tomorrow.


Amendment 364 is McCain's amendment. They will be voting on it in a couple minutes....unless they get more objections and/or debates that, hopefully, they are all done.


Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) Georgia. "Here we are once again raising the debt ceiling raise by almost a trillion dollars (the package now up for a vote). When is the spending going to stop?"


Are you saying C-Span is garbage now?

I don't think so. It's not a news channel, it's the house and senate bull sessions themselves. Maybe you don't like it because it's real and factual. Is that it?


 


From what I've seen on C-Span

the dems aren't much better. Take Dodd, Pelosi, Frank, Reid, and my favorite (not!)-Schumer. They don't give a dang about the people, either. Otherwise, they would have listened when the people spoke during the bailouts and stimulus packages.


They would have tried to work with the pubs to pass legislation and be bipartisan. But no, they wanted it their way and their way only.


I watched Schumer make state that the people don't care about the pork in all the packages they passed.  Where has he been?


I've watched Dodd lie. I've watched Pelosi think she's the president and to heck with everyone. She wants this and she will get it no matter what she has to do. I've watched Frank sputter and try to fight his way out of lies he was caught in.


I could go on and on, but I'm hopeful that people wise up and when their term for re-election comes up, I hope the people in their state take them down. They have caused most of the problems for this country.


I, for one, will no longer vote of Spector and I told him so. To change in the middle of his term does not sit well with me. He could have waited until it was time to campaign.  I feel like he betrayed his constiuents who voted for him. The worse part of the whole deal is that he figured he could not get re-elected without changing parties. Well, he may have just sealed his own fate come re-election.


 


Short attention span?

Short memory span?

Is there a reason why you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over again?  Rehashing the same ridiculous complaints over and over and over and over and over and over again? 


Why don't you post the butt in a chair thing a few more times?  You guys have called us more or less drugged out hippies with references to what we must be smoking, what we must have been doing in the 60s and our hookahs.  You ain't exactly perfect.  Now if I post this paragraph about ten more times you might get the idea, right?


What I learned today on C-span

(I hope the spacing comes out okay, apologies if not).  From C-span here are a couple comments.  One by a republican and one by a democrat.  It’s good to know that there are people (democrats & republicans alike) who realize this is a bad deal and are looking out for our best interest and not their own.


 


Rep. Michael Burgess – R. Texas 26th district


Speaker, I come to the floor today to talk about this 700 billion dollar bill that is in front of us.  I use the term bill advisedly because we have seen no bill.  We are here debating talking points on perhaps one of the largest fundamental change in our nation’s financial system in its history.  And house republicans have been cut out of the process.  Not only have we been cut out of the process, we have also been derided by the leadership of the democratic party and called unpatriotic for not participating.  Mr.  Speaker I have been thrown out of more meetings in this capital in the past 24 hours than I ever thought possible as a duly elected representative of 820,000 citizens of North Texas.  Mr. Speaker, politics is a full contact sport and I understand that, but it is a full contact sport in the light of day in the public arena.  Since we didn’t have hearings, since we didn’t have markups, lets at least put this legislation up on the internet for 24 hours.  That’s what Thomas was made for.  Lets do that and let the American people see what we have done in the dark of night.  After all, I have not gotten any more mail, any more emails on any other subject other than this one that is before us today.  Mr. Speaker I understand we are under martial law as declared by the speaker last night.  I think its ironic house republicans have not been needed for a single thing in this house to assure passage for the last 22 months.  And today we are going to be asked to vote for a bill for political cover because democrats are too weak to stand up to their speaker.  I yield back.


 


Rep. Marcy Kaptur – D. Ohio 9th District


Mr. Speaker, my message to the American people, don’t let congress seal this wall street deal.  High financial crimes have been committed.  Now congress is being asked to bail out the culprits and to do so at the expense of those who elected us to guard their interest the people of our country.  The normal legislative process that should accompany review of a monumental proposal to bail out wall street has been shelved, yes shelved.  Only a few insiders are doing the dealing.  Sounds like insider trading to me.  These criminals have so much political power they can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body in this land.  All the committees that should be scanning every word of what is being negotiated are benched, and that means the American people are benched too.  We are constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this republic against ALL enemies foreign and domestic, and my friends there are enemies.  We are told we will have a trillion dollar bill to review soon and have less than 24 hours with no regular hearings to try to vote on this tar baby.  The people pushing this deal are the very same ones who are responsible for the implosion on wall street.  They were fraudulent then and they are fraudelent now.  We should say no to this deal.  I ask my colleagues to join us at 2:00 at HC8 of the capital to meet with some real experts who have done financial resolutions without putting financial burdeon on the taxpayer.  Please join us HC8 at 2 p.m.


 


94 democrats voted against this bill today.  That is more than half the democrats, yet they get in front of the camera and give their little speeches about how all democrats are for this and its all the republicans fault this didn’t pass.  Hello folks, do the math. 


Pelosi has shown how truly inexperienced, divisive and uncaring she.  She gets up there and her mouth just flaps with nothing of substance being said.  She is incompetent and should be fired.  All that came out of her flapping gums today was more bashing of the republicans and accusing them of what democrats have been doing for over 2 years now.  Why in the world would you give a speech putting all the blame on people and bash the other political side before a vote is even held.  Chalk it up to one more of the numerous reasons she is incompetent and needs to step down.  And if she doesn’t step down she should be physically removed.  Even the Deputy Minority Whip held up a copy of Pelosi’s floor speech at a press conference and said she had “failed to listen and lead” on the issue.


Then I heard Barney Frank talk.  He should be renamed Barney Baloney.  He stands and mocks the people who voted against the bill making fun of them.  As someone said he may be a funny and clever guy, but there is nothing funny about this situation.


Did anyone even notice today that every time Pelosi and Franks spoke the market dived.  When they stopped talking the market started going up.  They’d get in front of the camera again and the market started tanking again big time.  This happened about 3 or 4 times (I was watching it on a split screen).  At that point you would have thought the President would have called over and told them to shut up because they were tanking the market.


Kucinich (democrat) said the ones who caused this are the one who are giving us a line (Pelosi, Franks, Kerry, Dodd).   


Truth is this $700B is not enough.  This is a small part of what is needed.  Many people are saying it's more like close to a trillion.  After this they’ll say well we need this much more, then that much more, and before we know it we’re going to be paying more than just $10,500.


There are economists and educated people who are asking for a decent bill.  But do they consult them.  They are the ones with the knowledge and ideas to get us out of the mess.  No who do they get – Pelosi, Franks, Dodd, etc – the people who did this in the first place).


 


All I can see is both candidates are more interested in getting themselves elected than what is happening with the economy so don’t even try to say one is worse than the other.  I cannot say what Obama is saying because I’m not hearing anything from him except that he keeps saying it needs to be fixed, but I’m not hearing his specific viewpoints on the bill itself (and I'm not hearing McCain's specifics either).  Specifics would be good if I'm suppose to vote for one or the other in November.


Auto Bailout is on C-Span. If you

want to watch it tonight, it will be on at 8 p.m. In the meantime, the plans of GM and Ford are online.


I feel sorry for the Chryler guy. He seems to be the most honest and wants the least amount of money. Sen. Corker - TN told him right out he doubts Chrysler is going to make it even with the money and they should just be bought out by someone and leave the company go.


He was also tough on the UAW Gettlefinger (or whatever his name is). I don't blame him there. The guy was squirming but he kept talking about all the concessions hurting the workers; i.e., not willing to make concessions.


Hope the link works.


Right now on C-Span, they are holding hearings
for the auto bailout. It's just starting.
C-Span is airing the Geithner nomination now.

I am sure he is going to get the job. Some reps are not happy with his tax debaucle, but we cannot afford to drag this out for weeks to try and find someone who would be a better fit.


I'm not happy with this choice at all. Sure wish I would've known about his failure to pay taxes before he was nominated by O, then we could all use the excuse that we forgot to pay our taxes, too.  I wonder how many people ARE going to use this excuse at tax time.


C-Span had a rerun of the senate yesterday on AIG

According to Schumer and Klobuchar, they are sending a letter to AIG Liddy (sp) to tell them to renegotiate the bonuses or give the bonus money back, or else they will draft a LAW and take immediate steps to impose a tax as high as 91% on these bonuses.


I don't know how they can do that, although I would like to see it happen. But if they can break the contracts for AIG, then they can break any contract at will. That's a bit scary.


Short attention span explains alliance with Bush.
Now it's all starting to make sense.  See article.  Don't bother to read article.  Form knee-jerk negative opinion based on prejudice against liberals rather than facts.  Refuse to read/accepts facts (too time consuming).  Ignore all gray areas in life; deal in only black and white. Vote for Bush. When things get worse, vote for him again because neocons are never wrong.
Yes - a bean-counter will decide that the cost-benefit ratio over the expected remaining life span..
...isn't worth it, and you'll be denied that hip replacement or whatever. So much less expensive to prop you up in a wheelchair and shove you in a corner. They'll poke you tomorrow morning to see if you're dead yet.

And, folks, I'm not kidding.
What's even more amusing is watching
your political ideology die a slow painful death.

I didn't post the original article not that you would believe me. As far as the rest of your rant I don't give a flip...and that's putting mildly.
like watching bullies get theirs
I kind of like to watch bullies get theirs and Delay's history for the past 21 years in DC is that of a bully..the *hammer* as his nickname is.  Kind of like karma..what goes around comes around eventually. Same thing with Rove, well known to spread lies and participating in extremely dirty politics..he just might get his now with the leak investigation.
If you think the government isn't watching you...think again.
Pay too much and you could raise the alarm

By BOB KERR
The Providence Journal
28-FEB-06

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Walter Soehnge is a retired Texas schoolteacher who traveled north with his wife, Deana, saw summer change to fall in Rhode Island and decided this was a place to stay for a while.

So the Soehnges live in Scituate now and Walter sometimes has breakfast at the Gentleman Farmer in Scituate Village, where he has passed the test and become a regular despite an accent that is definitely not local.

And it was there, at his usual table last week, that he told me that he was madder than a panther with kerosene on his tail.

He says things like that. Texas does leave its mark on a man.

What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that everything changed after 9/11 thing.

But not Walter.

We're a product of the '60s, he said. We believe government should be way away from us in that regard.

He was referring to the recent decision by him and his wife to be responsible, to do the kind of thing that just about anyone would say makes good, solid financial sense.

They paid down some debt. The balance on their JCPenney Platinum MasterCard had gotten to an unhealthy level. So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.

And an alarm went off. A red flag went up. The Soehnges' behavior was found questionable.

And all they did was pay down their debt. They didn't call a suspected terrorist on their cell phone. They didn't try to sneak a machine gun through customs.

They just paid a hefty chunk of their credit card balance. And they learned how frighteningly wide the net of suspicion has been cast.

After sending in the check, they checked online to see if their account had been duly credited. They learned that the check had arrived, but the amount available for credit on their account hadn't changed.

So Deana Soehnge called the credit-card company. Then Walter called.

When you mess with my money, I want to know why, he said.

They both learned the same astounding piece of information about the little things that can set the threat sensors to beeping and blinking.

They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.

Walter called television stations, the American Civil Liberties Union and me. And he went on the Internet to see what he could learn. He learned about changes in something called the Bank Privacy Act.

The more I'm on, the scarier it gets, he said. It's scary how easily someone in Homeland Security can get permission to spy.

Eventually, his and his wife's money was freed up. The Soehnges were apparently found not to be promoting global terrorism under the guise of paying a credit-card bill. They never did learn how a large credit card payment can pose a security threat.

But the experience has been a reminder that a small piece of privacy has been surrendered. Walter Soehnge, who says he holds solid, middle-of-the-road American beliefs, worries about rights being lost.

If it can happen to me, it can happen to others, he said.

(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr@projo.com.)

(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.shns.com.)

I think you have been watching too may movies,
they don't have to kill anyone to get those.
Unlike you, I have been watching Fox along with CNN...
so I have seen the good things happening along with the bad. The surge is exactly what scaled down the violence in Baghdad. Anyone with half a brain knows that...unless you think it was miraculously coincidental that the surge and decline in violence happened at the same time. Now who is trying to oversimplify?

You totally disregarding the glaring point here. Knowing Murtha's history, knowing the outlandish and horrifying things he has said over and over about the soldiers and the war, that the words "surge is working" would even pass his lips should be indicative, because it must be a BIG difference between the time he was there before and this time or he would not have said anything. What on earth could he possibly have to gain by lying about it? The main has a military background; he should certainly be able to tell the difference. Yes, I find that encouraging, but I have been watching the news and where we used to hear about a roadside bombing every day we don't anymore. Where we used to hear about car bombs every day we don't anymore, even on CNN, because they can't report them if they aren't happening, even they are not that deviant. Things HAVE changed, whether you want to admit it or not.

The intent of my post was to show that there are some Democrats (even the most left ones as Murtha is) who are having to admit that it is working. To quote you again, anyone with half a brain would see that it is. And if you would watch Fox once in awhile, you would see the troops being interviewed, you would see Iraqis being interviewed, and you would see that there is light at the end of the tunnel. But, of course, you probably think you would go blind if you turned on that channel (or they are doing it with actors on a sound stage in Burbank...LOL).

Again, we agree to disagree. I prefer the optimistic view, you prefer the pessimistic. I believe what I saw this morning with people moving freely again, talking positively about the future again (Iraqis), thanking soldiers for help and protection and inviting them into their homes for meals...to me that is a very positive sign.

By the way, I read another article regarding Murtha and he is still for pulling the troops out immediately, even though the surge is working. But he also admitted that he had visited with the many Pennsylvania-based soldiers there (his constituents) and that they believed in their mission and that they felt the surge was working. Not that you believe a word he says or that I say. I prefer to believe them. They are over there. We are not.
Did anybody think they were watching an episode

was speaking?


Seriously they should make an episode from that.  It would be HILlarious


and you really think by watching the mainstream..
media, MSNC (Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann), Air America and the like YOU are getting the whole picture? Admit it, you just want to hear what agrees with your point of view and nothing else. At least admit the bias.

I do watch CNN, I watch MSNBC until Matthews and Olbermann come on because all you get to hear with those two is what THEY think and they don't even attempt to hide their bias. Laughable really. At least Fox does have a Dem and a Repub at the same time, which is more than I can say for most of the others. And I don't watch Fox exclusively and have heard Limbaugh maybe once or twice, because he is almost as obnoxious as Olbermann sometimes. Can't stand that ego thing on EITHER side. Trouble is...I can see that. Those folks with a Fox and Limbaugh fixation can't see the same problems on the Dem side...namely Matthews and Olbermann. Wonder why that is??
It should be about the people. Watching
the different speakers last night, I was really proud of Barney Smith. Barney said he wanted a candidate that would put "Barney Smith first, not Smith Barney." He brought down the house. It's time for the American people to get the consideration we deserve from our government. The Bush administration owes us an apology. I absolutely refuse to have more of the same. It is time for a President who cares about the people.
come on..have you been watching the news?
to vote for Obama just because Hillary won. This is just one more reason for them to vote for her. Ignorant voters in large numbers are dangerous, just look at what the last 8 years has gotten us...
I have been watching closely, too.
The whole MSNBC crew was out of sorts on the night Barack gave his speech. It was like they were star struck. The night before I couldn't help but notice the MSNBC camera man all over the place, zooming in on the oddest thing; it was so bad, I switched to CNN and Wolfe. Read later that a rumor about drugs was going around. Maybe someone drugged their drinks. I have watched these guys for years and this is the strangest I have seen them. They looked unfrazzled and were disagreeable with each other. With regard to Maher, I like noncomformists -he is a smart guy and so far, what he has been alluding to has all come true with regard to GOP, as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
If you are watching the coverage you know much is being done...
okay, you don't believe in prayer. Couldn't you at least say you hope they will be okay? There is only so much men can do...we are talking a huge storm on a town below sea level.

What a nasty attitude.
Good, I think we should all be watching. It is in ,,sm
our best interest to do so. I am in constant contact with my senators and respresentives and express how I feel. We all need to be proactive.
Must have been watching a different interview than the...

Watching the Maverick's

campaign fall down around his knees this week has been amusing.  His VP selection has been judged as a political choice only by 79% of the nation. Her poll numbers have dropped 10 points.  He thinks Spain is in this hemisphere.  He was against the bailout of AIG and then 24 hours later for it.  He now claims, after 24 years, that he is FOR regulation after innumerable remarks about being against it.  The great joy that his supporters professed at Lady deRothchild's defection was erased when she made that redneck remark. It's over.  He just looks like a desperate fool now.


 


I'm watching a few minutes behind
They really are blasting Mccain aren't they?

It sounds like he (Reid) is trying to be the hero...


Were you watching the debate?
He said he would strike inside Pakistan with or without the permission of the Pakistani government if he had "good intelligence" that there were "high value targets." By the time he has 6 meetings with his 300 foreign policy advisors any high value targets would be long gone...and he would end up with a surgical strike on an aspirin factory ala Bill Clinton. All I can say is if he gets elected, he better put Biden on speed dial or give him the next room in the white house for that 3:00 call. Or the 300 foreign policy advisors. I guess they could have cots in the Red Room...?
TINA FEY, WERE YOU WATCHING?

Because there was some great material tonight in Palin's performance! 


Not to say she bombed, because she didn't.  She did a great job of winking, smirking, smiling, and looking sharp! 


She did NOT do a great job convincing me or "thinking" Americans that a continuation of BUSH'S failed policies is the direction this country should take via MCBUSH.  Sorry not buying - no matter how cutesy she is... 


I *would* like to know where she got that suit though!  She'd be a HIT on sex in the City - she could give Carrie a run for her money LOL.  But be a heartbeat away from the presidency?  Not on your life!


 


You won't ever find out by watching
know what planet they came from!
Besides Bush, he's the next man that everyone is watching
Whether he was invited or not was not the point. The point was he deliberately made sure he was seen in public to let people know he wasn't listening to the president's farewell speech. This was no surprise b'day dinner they claimed it was. This was plain and simple rude! They could have stayed in their suite and made love for all I care while the speech is going on, but for crying out loud to be out in public to make sure everyone sees him - he has no class whatsoever!!!
I'm watching it live.
I'm so disappointed in him. Someone asked when he was bringing jobs back from offshore. He said he's not. He's just trying to push his agenda, pretty much the same speech he gave the other night. What a waste of time.
You and I must be watching different stations
I think possibly Fox might have Obama's ratings dropping but just heard yesterday both independents and Democrats totally behind him with ratings up in the 80s. I did not even hear about the tea party until that very day so actually was not that huge from what I saw or read. As far as Alaska, she gets props for having a balanced budget. When you've got one of the lowest populations (4th least populated state) and a metric crap-ton of oil running through your state via the pipeline, Marion Berry, Kwame Kilpatrick, Bill Ford and George W. Bush could balance the budget--. Each Alaskan resident gets an annual check from the pipeline revenues. How can you NOT have a balanced budget?!?!?! Want to impress me? Balance California or Michigan's budget. The rainbow in Alaska is not as bright as several years ago. Read the Alaska newspapers. People there don’t even like her. You will not have your wish of a change of parties next election- the repubs are in a shamble and everyone knows that.

Last night I was watching

....are you ready....Fox News....OMG. 


Anyway, they were talking about the vicious and personal attacks on Miss CA.  One guy said that she used to be a man and had to have breast implants and cut her penis off to be in the pageant.  Just crude and horrible things.  So they brought on this feminist to see what she thought about the cruelty and the vicious personal attacks on Miss CA.  This feminists who is supposed to be for women's rights said that Miss CA should have opted for a heart transplant instead of breast implants. 


OMG....a feminist cutting down a woman because she was outspoken and voiced her honest opinion.  I'm so sick and tired of hearing how people who don't agree with same sex marriage are heartless people full of hate.  I don't hate gay people.  Just because I don't agree with something doesn't give others the right to cut me down for it.  I don't cut down gay couples even though I don't agree with it. 


I just don't understand why all these so-called liberal open minded groups are so open minded unless someone has a difference of opinion.  You cannot call them names or cut them down but if you disagree with them, you are fair game and they will cut you down brutally anywhere and in any way they can.  Talk about a double standard here.


Any feminist should be outraged by the treatment of Miss CA.  So she believes in traditional marriage....so what.  That doesn't make her a bad person and I don't see her going around cutting down other people who disagree with her but she has had one vicious attack after another and it is just a shame. 


I don't much care about pageants and all that jazz and I was really tired of hearing about how she lost because of her answer but these attacks on her are just insane.  If these leftist groups are all about compassion......where is it?


They keep talking about equality for all but yet you can't have an opinion that is different.  How is that equality when you bash people who don't agree with you?  Aren't we all entitled to our opinions without viciously and personally attacking those who don't agree with us?


Oh, then those people watching
Olbermann must be sickos and those watching Maddow must be all lesbians, right?

On second thought, that's probably correct... Maddow spews more hate than anyone I know, next to Olbermann of course!!!
Me watching Fox is not big news...(sm)

I've stated all along that I occasionally watch Fox.  I also watch MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Democracy Now, etc.....basically anything and everything I can get.  Contrary to popular beliefs on this board, I like to hear all sides and then form an opinion.


And yes, I would say that the majority of money for Acorn comes from govt grants.  However, other organizations have the same opportunities as they do to get those grants.  They also take donations.  I think what has happened is that pubs typically count on large donations from businesses, etc.  I think they underestimate the power of getting smaller donations, but from regular people like me.  This is what happened with Obama's campaign.  While he had some heavy weights with large donations, he also had tons of people like me who would donate on a regular basis.  I think the same thing is happening with Acorn.  I think the whole thing is that pubs have underestimated their ability to raise money.  I kind of understand this because for years pubs have been much better at this than dems.....we just went about it a different way.


This is not to say that everything is on the up and up.  Again, I don't think I'm qualified to decide that without all the facts.


I highly recommend watching

Hardball on MSNBC tonight if you can.  (It's on at 7:00 and 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast.)


In the last 10-15 minutes of the show, a woman by the name of Cindy Sheehan speaks about her son, who was killed in Iraq.  She founded "Gold Star Families for Peace."  I was in tears after hearing her speak about all of Bush's lies and have even less respect for this so-called president than I had before.  I hope you can see her interview.  It is very moving.


I did a little research and found this link to an interview with her:


http://www.lewrockwell.com/org/orig6/zeese2.html


In my opinion, she's very, VERY a credible, compelling person.


 


 


I'm going to have to start watching his show...nm

It gets a bit tiresome watching them gang up on you...
...I think you're great. You're one of the reasons I started to come to this board more often.

You're a breath of fresh air in here....


Moderator is watching but you are incorrect.
The OP is not advocating but entertaining a valid thought about a past medical condition.

Moderator
Yeah - that would be worth watching.

How much time did you spend watching
the video and confirming every fact? I care about all this and read what I can, but that sounds borderline obsessive. JMHO of course.
This is what you want? It's like watching a horror movie

This is enough the scare the you know what out of me.  If Obama wins you can expect more rallies like this.  BTW - Farrakhan calls Obama the messiah.  Warning - very creepy (almost like someting I'd see in a horror movie)


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE


 


Keep watching your CNN -The Clinton News
nm
Thanks for the head's up. Look forward to watching
bury this one in the trash right where it belongs...under the rotting fish.
Same here. Watching these people in interviews is
nm
I take no joy whatsoever in watching W's mouthpiece
make a mockery of human decency and insult the intelligence of the American public. However, I do find your weak effort to dodge these issues by focusing on the future versus the acting SOS fairly comical and pretty transparent.

Israel violated the Gaza cease fire on November 4, 2008, US election day, when it sent a raid into the Gaza Strip, killing 6 Hamas, a small detail omitted from US mainstream media reports and admininstration press releases. One has to wonder what lit that fire, after a near-5-month lull in the hostilities. This incident initiated the deterioration of the truce that led to this most recent round of Israeli attacks on Gaza.

This morning Condeleeza Rice said that Bush and Olmert were "on the same page" and reiterated that phrase of "lasting and durable" cease fire which was repeated numerous times by W's spokesperson a few days back in a brief press conference. In the same breath, we are hearing about how Bush supports the the continuation of the attacks unabated and that a ceasefire must "not allow a re-establishment of status quo ante" for continued rocket launches by Hamas out of Gaza. This begs the question, what are the objectives of these air strikes and threatened ground invasion?

Here is what seems to be a fairly even-handed and interesting analysis.
http://www.alternet.org/audits/115951/what_is_israel's_'mission'_in_gaza/

Basically, what we have here is an attempt to overturn the results of a legitimate election, Israeli party politics, restoring the tarnished reputation of the IDF butcher brigades after Lebanon and trying to keep a puppet president who has stated his desire to step down in office long enough to figure out how to further manipulate Palestinian political parties into submission via the divide-and-conquer route.

I guess some might think those are really good reasons to sacrifice a few Israeli soldiers, even a civilian or two along the way, and hundreds of their Palestinian counterparts in a 100:1 Palestinian/Israeli fatality ratio (bound to increase 10-fold with a ground invasion) in the name of democracy and Israel's national security.

Dude, where's my diplomacy?
Watching press release
Could our president be double-standard? Reporters are asking really good tough questions. No confidence in this new administration whatsoever.
So far in watching the news today
there is one person who wants this stimulus to pass. I agree.

So, look out for a depression coming soon or is it almost here. I think there are pockets in our Nation already in a depression. I do not see it getting better, just being realistic, but still hoping that government know what the he** they are doing. I wonder what it would be like for some of our representatives were "layed-off" for awhile with no pay and no health care benefits like some of the other 4.8 million who gave money to the bailout that was supposed to be used to buy up bad assets, but instead gave the money to banks who used it for vacations and bonus packages. Uncle Sam seems like a mean, backstabbing, evil dude.
Isnt he terrible? I tried watching too and he comes
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