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I've got a question for the lefties. How are we supposed to elicit valuable, possibly life-savin

Posted By: Lu on 2009-04-30
In Reply to: Religulous torture....(sm) - Just the big bad

information from a terrorist if we don't use enhanced interrogation techniques?  What do you suggest?  We serve them a buffet and politely ask what their next target is?  And when they refuse to talk, we just say well, thanks anyway, go with Allah?


Enhanced interrogation techniques or torture, if you will, is a necessary evil in this perpetually dark and dangerous world we live in. 




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A CIA agent who needs to have her identity remain anonymous in order to possibly save her life. And
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My, what a lively life you've had but
my family wasn't privileged. We did for ourselves and never felt we were better than others as your family did. We didn't use others to do our work for us. My father, mother, grandfather and grandmother worked side by side with blacks, doing the same jobs they did in factories, in the fields, you name it. I was never raised to believe I was better than others as you were. You obviusly didn't despise your family's racism too much. You still used your nanny, maids, whatever you want to call them and I'm sure you didn't wait on yourself hand and foot. So please don't sit there and sound all sanctimonious about your life. I actually lived life growing up and knew what it was to not be raised to think I was better than everyone else. I never looked at black people as someone who should "do our work" for us as you did. Perhaps you would know best about prejudice, bigotry and racism, since you were so established in a family that did. What I do know is the black people that lived close to us, and there were many, worked side by side with my family members, all being paid the same and all sweating through the summer sun working until dark to plant crops and harvest them together. My family picked cotton out in the blazing summer heat side by side with blacks as well. Did yours? Of course not.

So, until YOU'VE actually lived and worked for REAL with those you want to keep down and feel so sorry for, you need to learn to keep your mouth shut.

Nobody needs your kind trying to sound so self righteous when all you're really trying to do is ease your mind and your guilt.

Don't make that my issue.


Thank you for your valuable contribution to the Liberal Board.

Resounding failure to elicit response to Sambo's slop.
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So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


This is so typical of you lefties. sm

Cut and run. It's your mantra.  For all your crying about the innocent civilians killed in Iraq, that is NOTHING compared to what will happen when we leave.  But you never mention that.  Just like Vietnam.  Well, at least your are consistent.


That's the problem with lefties.
They decide what is worthy of being called 'truth' and what is not.

Like a cockroach hiding from the light.
I fall in to the you lefties are evil

A question for everyone...righties, lefties, and in between!
I just want to pose this question...

If you were followed around night and day, every little thing you said or mumbled recorded and written down, how many of you would be torn to shreds if the media decided they wanted to say something about you? I know I would!

It seems like "we the people" want to pick at every little thing ever said by these people. They are still humans! Did anyone of them know that they were going to be running for president 20 years ago? Probably not. Maybe some dreamed, but heck when I was a little girl I dreamed of being the first female president! But even at 21 if I ran for it now (I know technically I can't because I'm not old enough) if they started digging into some of the dumb things I've done I'd be thrown to the wolves! (no pun intended)

We really need to get off of their backs on some things. Seriously. Don't just take what you hear on the news or read on here and use it as your judgment. Research and find out the full context. Find out if Palin was just making a passing comment about Russia as her neighbor, or if Obama was just using an old American saying "lipstick on a pig" and on and on.

It scares me to think how many people in this nation are going to vote based on hearsay.

Of course I'm sure that no matter who gets in office if they don't wave their magic wand and make everything better there will still be plenty of complainers. The truth of the matter is until EVERYONE can work together (not just the government) we will never get things in order.

Just some thoughts.
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So, do all lefties not believe in free speech then?
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I would quit trying to talk to these lefties.
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They said this about the lefties when Bush was President. sm
If you weren't with Bush, you were with the terrorists, or the Clintons with their vast right wing conspiracy. People who shot their mouths off about Bush are in the DHS database too.
You lefties are so fair....the fairness is staggering...
attack him for not paying attention to hurricane and then attack him for paying attention to hurricane. Just proves that all you want to do is attack, attack, attack.
No, shallow Sally. Repubs are smart, but lefties
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I guess we lefties will hafta give the right a break
Why doesn't the right give the new government a break, and try to work with it instead of undermining any attempts at fixing our country's myriad of problems?

(Because they CAN'T, I guess).
time for the lefties to pile on and yuk it with your poor attempt at humor.nm

You lefties are so naive. Obama has plans for worse for our nation.

Palin really seems to scare the loony lefties and mainstream media
One has to wonder why they continue to expend so much time and effort on trying to villify, ridicule and harass this woman - who isn't running for any office at the moment.

Personally, I think it's highly unlikely that Palin would be nominated or run in 2012, but why are the Democrats already worrying about the next presidential race? Hmmmm? Passing strange, if you ask me, considering what we've got on our plate to deal with right now.


You loonie lefties must be simply dancing with rage today, eh?
Oh yeah - and by the way, another little bit of advice: Be careful what you wish for. And I do mean VERY careful. It's been simply amazing watching the radical left fashioning for themselves a two-edged sword on which they themselves will undoubtedly be impaled.
How can you possibly know that?!

I am amazed by your psychic abilites!  No one thought Bush would take us down like a rock and how quickly it could be done! 


Quite possibly. But I am sure there would be one...
who could perform just as well who does not have a commercial stake in the outcome of the election.
Possibly s/m
He went over to the "dark side" whatever that means because he uses his head for something besides a hat rack.  Did you happen to notice that he donated the maximum of $2300 to the McCain campaign in the beginning?  Personally I have great respect for Colin Powell and would have voted for him if he were running for the office.  You die hard republicans need to get over yourself and wake up and smell the coffee.  McCain/Palin are NOT good for America.
Possibly
but I have a feeling if this guy is out mugging people he may just be unintelligent enough to think a backwards B is correct...plus I'm sure if he was on drugs or something he wasn't to concerned about being alphabetically correct.


or possibly
(not saying he is, just an idea) if he is a radical muslim (let us remember not all muslims are radicals!) he was planted in the church for 20 years so everyone would argue that he is a Christian.

Just my conspiracy theory for you :)

I don't know if he is or if he isn't. All I do know is most Christians don't mock the Bible, and if you check out the video on the faith board he does just that. If he had made fun of the Koran or any other religion like that he would have been in BBBIIIGGGG trouble! But it's not hate if it's against Christians!


Just possibly...........
studying pig poop is not such a bad idea when you consider what the methane gas will do to this world once the permafrost melts (which is ongoing) and releases enough methane gas to destroy our planet........scribble it all down to a few sound bytes and it all sounds ridiculous. Keep beating your drum, it served you well in the past election. And who gives a rats about Rush......except maybe you since he is the unofficial leader of the pub party.
Just possibly...........
studying pig poop is not such a bad idea when you consider what the methane gas will do to this world once the permafrost melts (which is ongoing) and releases enough methane gas to destroy our planet........scribble it all down to a few sound bytes and it all sounds ridiculous. Keep beating your drum, it served you well in the past election. And who gives a rats about Rush......except maybe you since he is the unofficial leader of the pub party.
Oh please....how sexist can you possibly be???
She governed when she was pregnant with the child and she was back at work soon after. If you had watched her speech, you see she has a wonderful support system in her husband and her older daughter. Are you really saying a woman is incapable of taking care of her family and running the country and a man is? Simply by virtue of their sex?

Alaska is not a small state. It is more than twice the size of Texas.

If McCain keeled over two days after they took office (God forbid!), we would still have a President with more experience in executive office than we will have Obama is elected on day 1.

That is simply the fact. He will need multiple advisors, she would need multiple advisors. There is nothing in his resume that says he is more qualified to lead, and govern, than she is.

And she is not running for the #1...he is.
You cannot possibly be that ignorant.....
Teenagers have been raising babies since the beginning of time. Only until the last few decades has it been scoffed at that a teenager should have a baby and NO, I don't encourage any young person to go that route before they finish school and hopefully go on to college or at least, find a spouse first and then have a child. In an ideal world, that is the route I would wish for them all.

But in Bristol's case, my point was, and you know it, that I doubt very seriously I will have to support her and her child. Do I want 12-even 17 year olds having babies? No, but I can GUARANTEE you because I see it in my community EVERYDAY, that if they are working to raise their own child and I mean truly out there WORKING and not sitting on their behinds letting me pay for their child, they more than likely will have learned a very valuable lesson in life about raising a child and will in all likelihood not be so fast to have another one.

But, when those teenagers who take no responsibility continue to have one child after another and they are ALL on the taxpayer's payroll, you better believe they have no business with a baby.

What business is it of yours if a teenager has a baby if you're not having to pay for it womb to whenever??

Strong, possibly. But was I saw most was

I could not possibly agree with you more
about rewarding laziness.  However, if you REALLY listen, that is NOT what Obama is proposing.  He is proposing to tax those with more wealth (seems fair to me) in order to take some of the burden off the middle class....which is probably you, I know it is ME.  Not a word have I  heard him speak about rewarding laziness.  I expect he worked pretty hard to get where he is so I can't imagine why he would want to give what he worked for himself to other people who are too lazy to put forth any effort.  Makes absolutely no sense to me.
And it couldn't possibly have anything to do...(sm)

with the fact that we've lost around 3 million jobs this year, and the rate of job losses is not slowing down?  Do yourself a favor.  When you get that check in the mail from the government that you so disagree with, why don't you just send it back with a note saying *Thanks, but no thanks.  I prefer to wait for the trickle.*  I'm sure you'll feel much better about yourself then.


I really find it hard to understand why people like yourself fight so hard against policies that would benefit you.  In case you haven't noticed, the stimulus plan he is proposing IS the middle class bailout.  How many times on this board did pubs say *where's my bailout* during the first bailout?  And now those same people are turning their noses up and trying to act like they are above it simply because a pub isn't the one who is trying to fix this mess.


It's not the economy that's killing this nation.  It's people like you who would rather divide the country than accept the reality that the other side might actually have a good idea.  Nixon would be so proud.


You cannot possibly watch FOX and say that.
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This is possibly the most disorganized
ramble I've ever read on this board.  I truly cannot figure out what you are trying to say. 
Could you possibly be any more bitter and hateful? sm
I see your posts all over.  You just posted on the conservative board but didn't have the nerve to put your usual "gt" signature.  I have never seen someone so totally consumed with bitterness, rage and, well, just plain ugliness. 
Oh, for Heaven's sakes.....you can't possibly
There are a LOT of good parents whose son/daughter couldn't control their hormones at age 17 and YOUNGER. When my children were teenagers, I couldn't follow them around all day and night. They heard me talk year after year about the consequences of having sex too early, even if they thought they had it under control. That's all I could do. I would ask where they would be, who with, and give them a time I expected them home or ELSE, but look sister, we all know things can get heated up very fast and it doesn't take but ONE time and a couple of minutes to get pregnant. I am relieved my daughter didn't find herself in that situation and I hope and pray my 20 something son won't either. He knows our feelings and we hope he acts responsibly.

Do you have children or teenagers and if so, do you follow them around all day, every minute of the day, even when you think they are where they say they are? I doubt it.

The young lady will have to deal with her decision and hopefully, her younger sisters will also learn from this.....don't go this route. That certainly doesn't mean I would give up on the mother. I do know good mothers whose daughters got pregnant and it did come as a shock, but I didn't automatically think, wow, what a terrible mother.
Possibly, but I certainly have not heard McCain
say one word reprimanding these people - which in essence says a lot.
No, but I am aware of possibly 1000s
of democrats being registered to vote who do not have the legal right to vote, people who don't even exist. Suppression, are you kidding?
What can he possibly hope to gain by
showcasing his own hypocrisy? This will not be the last time we will see obstructive partisan tactics from sore losers whose eyes stay trained on the next election cycle. These types strive to undermine any progress that can be made on behalf of the voters to further their own self-serving interests.

If there is no provision in election protocol to account for this specific circumstance, then the logical step would be to create one for next time, not to filibuster in an attempt to strip Minnesota voters of representation for some undetermined period of time. This is probably not the best of strategies for a party who lost 7 (and probably 8) senate seats, and will be sitting with 58 or 59 dems and 2 independents who have tendencies to lean toward the dems.

Being from Texas, I can tell you that sucking up will not come easy for John Cornyn, but I say let him show his true colors. He'll ultimately end up cutting off his nose to spite his own face.
I am not in your life....I am in the life of the baby...
and will continue to speak for the baby. Again, my right.
She cannot possibly raise that child and utilize her master's, though,
Certainly you'd never encourage your daughter to spend time working on a MASTER'S while trying to also raise a child!! You've just bashed another mother for doing something similar, so I don't get it. Or is okay if you only have ONE child or what? Please fill me in on the double standard you uphold.
Pure entertainment (or possibly not) see link inside...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,415441,00.html
She's going to talk to police and possibly make public statment tmrw
Will be interesting. I'm sure we'll know soon enough if this story is true.
And I was supposed to know this how exactly?
You assume I know this by what means? Osmosis.  Of course, this is a tragedy.  I have know tragedy.  Again, I ask, what makes you think we cannot relate?   Your gross overreaction is disturbing to the extreme.  How, in fact, does one extend condolences without knowing the circumstances?  And why do you and Carla assume no one else has tragedy?  Who owes who an apology? 
They are supposed to be. nm
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And I am supposed to take ....sm
"Just the big bad" to be a reliable source? You are anonymous, why should I trust you? But, I will do a little more checking around and see what I can find.

FWIW, I don't believe I have ever mentioned the LA Times before this prior post as I really do believe that a journalist has the right to not divulge their source. HOWEVER, I do not believe that any politician has the right to squelch potentially incriminating evidence from the public. This, in my opinion, is government getting bigger by the minute.
You are supposed to be an MT
and supposed to know how to spell
So, exactly how is anyone supposed...(sm)

to distinguish you in particular as not being a pub when you use no moniker? 


Well how else was he supposed to

pay for all the spending his administration is doing?  I hope this is the final nail in his coffin so to speak.  Remember when Bush #1 said read my lips...no new taxes and he went back on the promise and wasn't re-elected.  Well....let us hope that the 95% of Americans that he professed to not have ANY kind of taxes raised on them will get p!ssed and we can say goodbye to Mr. Obama in 2012. 


Sorry. This was supposed to be in response to LOL
Someone should actually read an article before saying untrue things about it.  But that doesn't surprise me.  It's in line with the way this administration lies about everything.
Was supposed to say didn't see any
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Yes, and I thought they were supposed to be