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I agree, Linda...time will tell. Polls kinda take a pulse...

Posted By: sam on 2008-08-30
In Reply to: Another Thought - Linda

they can change so quickly.

As far as Hillary supporters, the hard-line vote Democrat or die group will vote for Obama. It is the ones who are angry at the DNC and Howard Dean...those are the ones who might be persuaded. But even if they are not, those independents and undecideds seem to really like her.

We will see how it goes...but it IS exciting, isn't it? She is definitely not Washington politics as usual and that is SO refreshing!


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If you believe in polls good for you - The King of Polls said
So the polls only poll a few small areas with certain demographics. You trust that. Sure maybe they only poll Hollyweird and the other liberal cities. They also reflect all the phone voter registrations, so maybe to your cat and cartoon characters it matters that Obama is ahead. Me - I'll wait for election day to find out the truth about who is ahead in the race. I've said it before and I'll say it again (and glad to know Mr. Rassmusin backs me up on this one) - polls do not matter and do not reflect a real vision of who is ahead in the race.
The polls that supply that electoral map are just that....polls...sm
Polls mean less than nothing to me. Polls intimidate and mislead the voters, in my opinion. Thanks for asking.



Linda, try again, I just got in.
That is weird.
You can't be serious, Linda.
This is one of the all-time most absurd posts I have seen on any forum. You win first prize hands down!
To Linda:

Please, PLEASE visit Snopes, and you will see that this whole thing is false, false, false! 


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp


 


Linda, since I did not refer to you by name sm
I can only assume that you are including yourself in the group to which I referred, but I do think that those people know who they are, so as the old saying goes "if the shoe fits".  Personally, I don't feel any of your comments were hateful, so don't take it personally unless "the shoe fits". 
Linda: Fair enough. sm
I did not even realize that I "tagged" into your post.  I was just trying to defend someone who I have only witnessed being intelligent and trying to have vigorous discussions on very divisive subjects and MOST people on this forum do nothing but attack with derogatory comments instead of acting like rational adults.  By all means, I do apologize, as I did not intend to direct my post to you personally, otherwise I would have quoted some of your comments had I found them to be as equally offensive and ugly, although it did seem to me that you were in agreement with the others' assessment of JTBB.  Indeed, you seem to be one of those few "rational adults" and, again, please forgive my indignation towards those that are not.
To Marmann, Linda and others - see information
Please, PLEASE do not always think snopes is correct. They have been wrong on many occasions. Just type in "has snopes ever been wrong" in Google and many links come up to show they have been wrong. Snopes is run by Barbara and David Mikkelson, a California couple who met through an folklore urban newsgroup. And there is no credible sources whatsoever on snopes to prove that this is false. And being from California who are huge Obama supporters...well how convenient they just happen to have this website and can put up information without credible sources and everyone believes them???

To others - If there was "nothing" to this story, Barack would not have been ordered by one of the supreme court justices to submit his original birth certificate which he never did. The phony birth certificate that the Annenberg foundation (P.S. the Annenberg foundation is a staunch supporter of Obama) claims is his birth certificate has too many flaws on it.

I know a lot of Obama supporters are trying to push this under the carpet and pretend it never happened and try to debunk anyone trying to search for the truth.

The truth is that the actual birth certificate was never submitted. And like one of the posters said below "Obama has not shown it. He does not have it and the hospital has no record of birth certificate" the copy they have I do believe will prove he was born in Kenya. If he had it and it was valid he would show it, not have it legally hidden away so that NOBODY can view it. Brother! Talk about sending out red flags. Anyone with any sense can see there is something very wrong with this. If he was legal he would have shown the real certificate a long time ago and proved the "so called rumors" to be false. But because he hasn't anyone with any sense has got to wonder why. Why isn't he showing the true certificate? Why did the DNC give him a pass without checking it out? Who is backing him? Why was he legally allowed to secure the certificate? Too many why's.

But to have the supreme court involved. They don't take "bogus" cases, so there must be something valid to the claim that it will show he was born in Kenya to an American woman and African father and became an Indonesia citizen (and we don't know if he ever applied for US Citizenship).

We will soon find out (I hope). If he does not provide proof then everything he does as a president will mean nothing because it will all be invalid.
This time I agree it is sad

As Sam said, we need to hold Obama/Biden feet to the fire as I would have John McCain.  Whether we voted for him or not, (I did)  we are where we are and I always say if you get lemons make lemonaid.  I said yesterday that I would send a congratulatory email and I will try not to be too long-winded.  LOL   I will make my points as to why I supported them and that I EXPECT them to keep their promises and DELIVER.  I would urge everyone to do the same.  If you didn't vote for them I urge all of you to let them know that you didn't and why.  They will no doubt be seeking re-election in 4 years.  The best contact I could find, I am posting a link below.  I will continue to hold their feet to the fire and I know I can count on Sam to join me.  I think it is well for those of you with concerns to address them.  I will continue to keep updated and post any new information regarding contact and hopefully we'll all raise our voices STARTING RIGHT NOW.


http://answercenter.barackobama.com/cgi-bin/barackobama.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php


Linda C. - -- stop emailing me personally with posts...sm
You need to read my post again. I said....a person that commented on Obama's video...a person commenting on the Youtube site....said a nasty word about a different poster....I in no way said that Obama said that word.......you really need to read what people say before you reply.....

And STOP emailing me personally. It's a shame you accuse me of saying something false here, when you didn't even take the time to fully comprehend what I posted.



Linda's comment emailed to me:

This is probably the way things get started, falsely that is. I have watched the youtube you were speaking of and where in the world did he supposedly say something that was x-rated? It is a shame that any and all that people try to say about him just does not work, your's being 1 of those. Linda
Dear Linda C in George -- don't send me any more personal emails...sm
post your comments on the board, please. Maybe other want to see your comments. Thank you. By the way, my entire post was from an online newspaper; none of it was my personal thoughts on the subject, aside from the Subject line above.






Email from Linda C in George:

I think it is a good thing for the University to cancel- you have seen the hatred put forth by McCain supporters- unreal- with almost a gang like trend to them. Oh, just 1 question- you wrote in your post this invitation was extended several months ago, like in February- strange that the people who invited him at that time did not KNOW who he was, right, even as late as 02/2008- but I guess Obama knew when he served on the Republican based board with him. You make contradictions in your statements but I get the jest. There are plenty of other states (mine included, Georgia) that have turned blue and I am looking for a total landslide for Obama.
We have been saying this on the C board a long time. Agree. NM

...


I agree. I do not think any jail time was warranted. (nm)
nm
Hey JTBB - I agree with you for once in a long time - see message
Too many posts to reply to so I'll reply here - I read the article. This is not a once in awhile family gathering, BBQ or picnic. This is weekly business meeting. Yes, that's right - business. Religion is a business. If you just had a few people every once in awhile coming to your house that would be one thing, but the article stated they have regular meetings in the home. I think the person who wrote the article did a little bit of "fibbing" with saying they were asked if they say "praise the lord" and if they pray. Could have happened, but I highly doubt it (again that's JMO). The concern the county has is that the home is being used as a business without a business permit. What they are doing is something that should be held in churches - which by the way ALL churches should be taxed seeing as they are all businesses.

I do agree very much with your assessment that these are the same people trying to take away the rights of the LGBT community. It does seem to be a one-way avenue. For the most part all the communities I have lived in the Christians want their rights, but they are also the first to want to remove the rights of other groups if they don't coincide with their beliefs.

If religious people want to have a small gathering in their home that's fine, but bringing a congregation of people into your home is a business, especially if it is on a regular basis.

People have bible meetings all the time in their own homes, but they don't have them on a regular basis and they don't have large groups making them stand out. They should keep their religious assemblies where it belongs - in the churches - and because its a business it should be taxed.

One other note is that the article mentioned what about tupperware parties or baseball games. Well those are not regular business meeetings going on.

I am sick of the hypocracy they have. I'm tired of hearing about "poor us, we can't pray, we can't do this, we can't do that, their trying to take away our rights". Yet everytime when I hear what is really going on I find the story has been exagerated to fit the "poor us" philosophy. Good example is this story. It started out with "poor us, we can pray in our own homes", when the truth comes out they are holding regular business meetings with their congregation meeting at their home residence. Two entirely different things.
I agree, this fact was suspected long time before Adam admitted. to it,
and this might even have been - unjustified - the reason why Adam, by far the best singer in the group, came in 2nd place.
I agree with poster below. Don't even waste your time reading the post. - Sarcastic and utter no
Oh brother - get real.
I kinda think they would both
look out for themselves.  That's exactly what they're doing now, trying to win the prize, never mind if they have to whack their own mother...but that's just my opinion.
Well...that kinda clears it up...LOL. (nm)
nm
Kinda like US Weekly!

Who has lost thousands of subscriptions over that so-called piece about the sex and lies.  Both Megyn Kelly & Laura Ingraham made that loon look even more stupid than he was.  But it's so easy to do.  All one needs to do is take their words and hand them right back to them.  Gets 'em every time.


I don't give any party a free pass, tho.  I have more respect for my own self than that!


try "craps out"....kinda like...all the...nm
crap that spats out of you and others of your ilk on this board, towards the republications.


Your handle of TP fits

kinda on a different tangent but....sm
but my husband said to me the other day, that Biden is the gift that keeps on giving....to the other side that is, what with all his verbal gaffes in recent days.

There's a reason Biden never made it past the primaries in all the other times he tried to run for prez.....your articles included, and the fact that he keeps dissing his own side (unintentionally, of course, but I guess that's just Joe).


It might be kinda' cool!

I was just kinda shocked to see you

would campaign for a known unqualified person for the presidency.  I do imagine they wll get around that though one way or the other.  He is just what we need for president.  NOT. 


It should be interesting.  I just wonder what kind of deal was "really" made between Obama and Hillary.  Unless I miss my best guess she isn't going to play second fiddle to anyone. 


I was kinda wondering about that myself
Considering the veil of secrecy the previous administration operated under, I'm kinda stunned that they're making this an issue. I don't remember this outrage when Cheney held his secret covert meetings to form energy policy with the members of the oil cartels. That directly impacted each and every one of us as it served to guide policy, yet I don't recall this outrage from the right regarding that.

I'm an independent (the real kind, not like Bill O), but I'm just a bit amazed about the short memories some people seem to have if they Obama is raising the fear level.
Ok....I just thought it was in kinda bad taste.
But...whatever floats your boat. I did think I would never hear anything negative about the left leaning from him...and I never expected to hear him say that. Oh well...whatever floats your boat. Enjoy! :)
Does the behavior on this board not kinda...
support that?
kinda syrupy, but cute.

nm


 


This was kinda cute for Halloween....sm



http://www.comics.com/comics/jumpstart/index.html

(halloween political link.....)



Happy Halloween all.......going to splurge and get myself some candy, since living on a mountain we don't get any trick or treaters...unless you count the bears that aren't hibernating yet!!!


Dunno but I think it's kinda cute. n/m
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Well, crow is kinda tasty once you get used to it. LOL
x
You mean kinda sorta like some retired ex-MTs who do the same..
and paint gourds in their spare time?
Yeah, kinda sorta like those. LOL
x
Oh, I get it. Kinda like the bailed out banks
I feel so much better now.
Hey, what kinda pansies hold their
tea party indoors?  
I kinda like the puff, light, etc.

Saves some money and if I put them down, they go out instead of burning away. I had my first carton of 'em last week. Took 7 days for that carton. Sunday I started my second carton. I'm almost through that one today because it's not a "puff and light."


Some day....


It's gettin' kinda late, but you got me LMAO.
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Nahhh.....I just thoughtit was kinda cute. nm

I won't hide! It's kinda hard to give
posts any merit when the writer won't come forward. I don't like getting slammed, but what the heck--guess I deserve it sometimes.
Yeah...kinda like a 'whack-a-mole'...

And just who, pray tell, is Crackers? Sounds kinda
But, whatever makes the three of you happy...
Yeah, kinda laying claim to maverickism
nm
Kinda makes me rethink the whole stimulus package........
Evidently Pickens Plan was incorporated in there..........as much as it was allowed!
It's kinda fun to watch you playing mental bumper cars
NM
President Bush is kinda busy right now, you know, a little thing called a hurricaine. sm
Cities ruined, people dead and missing, flooding, looting, stuff like that.  Give it a rest.
Kinda sorta like all you peppy eppy upper dupper cheerleaders.
whatever. He can do no wrong in your eyes, ever.

whatever
Take a look at these polls.sm
Just to give you an idea, take Denver's Rocky Mountain News poll (the state is very conservative) below, and look at the results. Almost every poll I have seen shows large percentages of Americans think the same way as the theorists.

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/rockytalklive/archives/2006/08/the_government_and_911_2.html#more

Here is another one from Ed Schultz at Air America with a 50/50 split.

http://www.wegoted.com/index.asp
Polls
Make that alter-ego. Changing names according to post content = literary license. I'm sure you've heard of it before, being so intimately acquainted with the literary world and all. Makes things a bit more intriguing. Enables one to dial back rabid mad-dog rhetoric.

Case in point. You don't launch into your "5-paragraph volleys" unless you think you are talking to GT. As BW, I enjoy the luxury of not having to drag out an entire arsenal of put-downs just to make myself understood, since you can’t quite figure out who you are talking to. Usually I am pretty good about revealing the aliases eventually, but not always. That is another prerogative of free speech.

BTW, when you lift content and ideas from somebody else's post, it's customary to use quotes. Disciple? Shades of the gospel according to Saint Hannity. Another suggestion would be that when you plagiarize thought or content, at least be careful not to put it into responses addressed to the original author.

Yes, Congress has a lower rating than Bush. He wields a powerful weapon that empowers him to obstruct, stall and reverse any sort of viable legislative initiatives. It's called the veto pen. In this last session, he has used it 8 times but Congress has managed to override him on 4 of those vetoes. They at have at least shown more ability than Bush to cross the aisle and engage themselves in effective bipartisan initiatives and convince them to vote against their fearless leader.

You and the pubs make no excuses for being too inept at reaching consensus (a decidedly American concept). Obstruction, stalling and reversals are akin to dodges, deceive and deflections. They are the strategies used by petty dictators and their parties in a setting of “might makes right,” that divide and conquer approach, rather than taking the high road and exerting the effort or harboring the desire to create a representative government body. Bipartisanship has never been his forte anyway. No surprise there.

Polls are interesting, but not terribly reliable, given the problems that arise when you start to consider the source, sift through bias, skewing and the like. More than likely, the polls offer the most reliable reflection of public opinion would be the approval ratings of the candidates, not that status quo that is destined to be decimated come November. Most dems are just about as frustrated with the whole mess as you are. On that we can agree. But my take on approval ratings, at least in terms the current state of affairs in Congress and the executive branch, is that the low numbers reflect a much more deep-seated frustration and anger toward being lied to about the war and the incalculable costs in terms of human life as well as tax dollars, the state of the economy and the perception that nobody anywhere is doing anything, typical of a lame duck in a campaign year. The nation as a whole is in a really bad mood, to be sure. They simply don't approve of anything, at the moment.

More than likely, this will play itself with a major overhaul on both sides of the aisle. Who comes out on top in Congress in terms of numbers is anybody’s guess.

Polls are even at 42%
per a CBS poll taken on Wednesday, so this does not include Palin's speech or McCain's acceptance speech. 
Polls & More

Remember, this is the party that prides itself on being "tolerant."  Yeah, sure.  How tolerant have they been of anything a conservative has to say?  This why they lie in wait here, so the few times I even bother to take the time (more like waste it) to post something, I try to make the subject line not stand out as a "right-winger" view.


This board is no better than DailyKos, HuffingtonPost, etc.  Go to those sites and see how well the libs behave. I look at this forum very seldom now after seeing what the bulk of my industry thinks and how totally nasty they behave.  They make having a cat fight look like a tea party.


While polls mean almost nothing to me, Rasmussen is a very reputable one.  Below is from Media Resarch Center (excellent; Bret Bozell, Libertarian).  Included in the article are links for a great deal of info for anyone interested.  Nasty posts, etc. mean nothing to me, so do as you please.  I've made my pitstop here for the day (or week), and see that each time I look here it's only gotten more nasty.


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language when they referred to Obama’s experience as a
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A closer look reveals the "best political team on television"
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the claim that the Republicans are shying away from the issue.
In fact, in true parrot form, CNN repeated the charge at least
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Moms Say Palin Is Role Model for All Women

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Chavez Hails End of ‘Yankee Hegemony’ As Russian Bombers Arrive

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Palin Stars at Virginia Rally, Then Heads Home

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Biden's Bishop Seeks Prayers to Help Biden Become Pro-Life

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Democrat Leader Raises Specter of Government Shutdown over Oil Drilling

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Matthews: Obama's 'Pig' Not Sexist, 'Community Organizer' Racist

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CNN Labels Palin's Environmental Stances 'Outside the Mainstream'

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'Non-Partisan' Liberal Group's Critique of Palin Cited by CNN

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ABC's Brian Ross Highlights Angry Librarians Opposed to Palin

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MSNBC Hosts Mock and Distort Prayer Request by Sarah Palin

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CBS Highlights Dem's Anti-Palin Plea: 'We've Got to Go After Her'

http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?U=10850&RID=16855646

NYT's Herbert: "Arch-Conservative" Clarence Thomas' "Self-Hatred"

http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?U=10851&RID=16855646

Couric Uses sex Scandal to Show Bush Admin 'Close' to Big Oil

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***Culture and Media Institute

Newsweek's Female Columnists Pile on Palin

http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?U=10853&RID=16855646

The Cost of Killing Palinzilla

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Palin Heat Threatens Planet

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Crude MTV Award Host Mocks Palin, Purity

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Stop the Presses! Palin's Church Holds to Bible's Teaching on
Homosexuality!

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***TimesWatch.org

Public Editor Says Palin Coverage Fair, Parenting Angle "Legitimate"

http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?U=10858&RID=16855646

Obama's Terrorist Colleague Bill Ayers Makes Cameo in Story on Education

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Rev. Jeremiah Wright Compares Obama to Virgin Mary -- Times Doesn't Blink

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Seelye Shrugs Off Dem. Ed Rendell's "Big Lie" Smear of McCain

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Bob Herbert Unleashed: "Arch-Conservative" Clarence Thomas's "Self-Hatred"

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CNN Parrots Dems on Republicans and Economy

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Greenspan: Recession Still ཮ Percent or More' Likely

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Media Error Causes Steep Loss for United Airlines

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ABC: Manmade Global Warming Causing Worse Allergies

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How much do you believe polls?
Yahoo had some info on the Rasumussen Polls and I went to their website to check it out: www.rasmussenreports.com

They have an electoral college page that shows the current "vote" at 248-163 in favor of Obama. I'm going to have to do some research and see how accurate polls were in previous presidential elections. They have it broken down by state and it is pretty interesting, if numbers are your thing!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update
For all who believe in polls

I don't believe in polls but a lot of posters like to use them to try to make some sort of point....


Today's Gallup poll (one of the most trusted) - Obama 49, McCain 47 -


Like I say....way to close to predict a winner.  I also heard some students after last nights debate that said they were still undecided said if they had to vote right now they'd choose McCain.  Goes to show not every single person/young person voting Obama.