I have a friend whose husband is Muslim - she told me (sm)
Posted By: MeMT on 2008-11-19
In Reply to: Don't beat yourself up too much GP sm - m
2 years ago that she and her husband believed O would be our next president. She told me about him back when I had never heard of him.
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My husband told me he heard that the other day
I say drill now too. Be truly energy independent. Explore and develop other energies, wind, solar, clean coal, etc. Why are all the oil sheiks so rich? Our hard-earned dollars are pocket change for them. I dont have $5,000 to heat my house this winter, and today it's snowing already.
I would rather support American businesses than foreign. Drill here, drill now!
He is Muslim, born Muslim, raised Muslim
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He was born to a Muslim father and raised Muslim
for a time. You don't get to choose to drop out of that religion. Doesn't matter if you were born into it and didn't choose it to begin with. Leaving earns you a death sentence, especially such a public conversion to another religion. Why does he get to be a Christian now and nobody in radical Islam is calling for his head on pike? Unless.......
Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim
And point of fact is that it was 2 years in Catholic school, 2 years in a "Muslim" school. He was living in Indonesia. He had to attend school in Indonesia. His mother, doing what mothers do, wanted him to get the best education available. She tried 2 years at the Catholic school and then determined at that point that the quality of education provided was better at the Muslim school. There was some teaching of Muslim philosophy but this more emphasis was paid to standard educational requirements, what's referred to as the 3 Rs (Reading, wRiting, 'Rithmetic).
Attending a school with some affiliation does not automatically confer the same status on you. Jews can go to Catholics without converting. Whites can go to those schools thought of as primary African-American without becoming black. Sometimes, folks, a school is just a school, and 2 years in an extremely secular school at the ages of 8-10 does not turn him into a radical Muslim.
Frankly, his education and family life seems like it makes him almost the perfect president to be able to understand and empathize with a much wider range of American citizens than any president before him.
Why is it racist to call a Muslim a Muslim?
A Christian doesn't mind being called a Christian.
Your phony indignation just proves how oversensitive people are to perceived slights these days.
Same to you, my friend!!
Knowing this is late, I hope you had the best day ever! 
OK. You are right. I am not. My friend
is not. Don't know why she would bring that up as we drove by gas stations in St. Pete, but obviously she was having a senior moment, was in an altered mental state or just flat-out lying...that is what it probably was, flat-out lying. I know it is important for the right to be right so I acquiesce. You are right and I am not.
He has a Muslim name and comes from
stretch, really, and the fact that Dems want to completely disown that are just as asinine as the Repubs that keep harping on it. He has Muslim in his background and went to a Muslim school, this is fact. He might not be a practicing Muslim NOW, but he was taught Muslim beliefs at an impressionable age. Hard to say if any of it stuck, and of course he'd never say if it did. Muslims planned attacks against us for YEARS, right under our nose in our own country. It's beyond me how anyone can ignore the idea that they also might be capable of taking a young man, shaping him and his background to one day become POTUS, thereby accomplishing precisely what they continually threaten: To destroy us from within. They probably laugh at how quickly Americans embraced someone with Muslim name and former Muslim ties, and even if Obama's not their man, now they know how easy it would be.
MY FRIEND
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I don't believe that every Muslim
is a terrorist. I believe that there are good people and bad people....just like every other race, religion, etc. However, when it comes to Jihadists who can come over to our country and blend in with good muslims who reside in our country and are willing to kill themself as long as they take out as many "infidels" as they can.....that is what gives us all fear. You can't look at Muslims and pick out the ones who would willingly befriend you and the one who would much rather blow you up. It has made many of us scared of ALL muslims and not just the ones responsible for these horrible acts.
Not a Muslim
He's not a Muslim. Think about it - how many muslims do you know are pro gay rights and pro choice?
he is a muslim
He said so himself on TV.
he is a muslim
His full name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
If he is a Muslim then why has he ...sm
practiced Christianity for 20 years, I believe it is? Muslims do not practice Christianity. His father was a Muslim from Africa. He was raised by his grandmother and mother and was a Christian.
Okay, he is not muslim, but
I'm not Muslim, but...
...the very first time I heard Obama speak at the Democratic convention, I remember thinking that he will be President someday.
Maybe it's more of an "Obama" thing than a "Muslim" thing. 
Your friend must have been
hot.........
Your friend must have been
hot.........
You my friend
scare me and millions of others with your so-called tolerance of death and disease for our children and youth. We should be hating it. AIDS and mental disease is not pretty.
Saddam US friend
Six months after the gassing of Kurds in 1988, the White House lent Saddam a billion dollars. In 1991, at the end of the Gulf War, US troops stood idly by while Saddam's presidential guards ruthlessly suppressed the uprising by the Kurds that Poppy Bush encouraged and had called for. In 1980, Saddam was made an honorary citizen of Detroit, Michigan. He was our friend back then, even though we knew his blood thirsty ways. We even supplied him with WMD, which we then destroyed with fly over bombing through the 1990's with sanctions placed on the country to weaken it even more. We also were friends with Osama in the 1970's when we had him and Afghan freedom fighters fight against Russia as we did not want Russia to have control of Afghanistan. In essence, Osama was trained by our CIA for war.
friend in Vietnam
I had two friend who went to Vietnam, one returned..and yes, he too was traumatized emotionally. He returned to his parents house and I used to stay over all the time as it was a *hang out house*..had a pool, large yard, you name it..we all hung out there (smile)..anyway, John was in Vietnam in 1969..he used to sent tapes home to his parents and we would all listen..when he returned to his parents house, forget it..you could not wake him in the morning, you would make a noise or call his name and he would jump up ready to fight you..He lived like this for a few years then he married..Since then I lost contact but I can tell ya, this guy had major issues trying to reconnect with **civilization**..I ache for the soldiers who are now fighting..the dead, the maimed and the emotionally and spiritually destroyed forever..FOR WHAT??????
I had a friend on Right Nation who went down there. SM
He lives about an hour away. He did not gestimate anywhere even close to that.
I'm a friend of Bill!
from the uber-liberal state of Massachusetts. I was just responding to previous post of why Observer posts on this forum.
I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway
I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people. It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything. Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people. These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families? Of course not.
I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time. I think he is an excellent candidate. He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around. We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job. I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.
really? well it is written that he was a muslim
http://freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
You keep calling me your friend...
...why is that? I hope you don't generally treat your friends this way.
As far as me singling people out to torment -- it would only be you and it would be singular. Plus, I didn't "single" you out, just saw your posts on a PUBLIC forum and as I said, they looked kind of mean and cruddy. However, I would say you are the PLURAL stalker. Come one, come all you will take them on and condemn and mock all that folks say on the liberal board!! And then accuse them of all being the same person. Lots of paranoia goin' on in that ole brain of yours, doesn't sound very healthy at all!!! No, sir!!!
Yes, and Obama has at least 1 friend
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Obama/muslim
All this hoopla about Obama being muslim. Has anyone bothered to go to the Rev. Jeremiah's church website and read what they believe? Now that'll scare the daylights out ofya. Amazes me how people will gag at a knat and swallow a camel. Then there's McCain who scares the bejezus out of me. We simply can't afford 4 more years of Bush-nomics nor can we afford 100 more years in Iraq, I won't vote for either of them but if someone held a gun to my head and I had to choose, I would take my chances with the unknown Obama rather than the known McCain. Before someone tells me to get my facts straight, I have. I've been fanatic in reading and listening to everything about both of them trying to find something I can support, which I haven't yet done. My mind is not colored by either "Democrat" or "Republican." People had better wake up before it's too late if it isn't already. LIke all this pig/bulldog/soccer mom/lipstich crap, nothing more than to keep silly American citizens' minds off the REAL issues. This campaign, on both sides, is a disgrace to this GREAT NATION.
Well, Obama does have a friend who could help him
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That's her imaginary friend (nm)
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The fact that he has a Muslim name
means exactly what? We will be destroyed from within but it won't be any one person who will destroy us. We, the people, will destroy ourselves from within and we're contributing to it right here on this forum!!!!!
You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm
or any other religion other than your own. There a zealots in every religion, I repeat, EVERY religion, closed minded people who believe everything that they hear from dubious sources. Do you know anything about any religion other than Christian? I should mention that I am a Christian. The Muslim religion is very devout, fundimentally believe in the same God Christians believe in, they believe in peace and goodness for their people. They believe Jesus was a good man, a prophet, but do not believe he is the son of God. I have Muslim friends. They DO NOT believe in the extremism of Osama bin Laden and are proud Americans. Something that everyone should keep in mind is that every? major war that has been fought in history has been somehow or other be fought or justified by involking the name of God.
Now why does Obama need a Muslim
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3557
I have also been in a Muslim country
And, as a westerner, which we were referred to, ALL western women are seen as loose women, basically whores; there is no respect there. I was given rules like don't use your left hand because that's vile, don't reprimand your child in public; that's wrong also, the rules went on and on and on. Women are treated like dirt where I was and in most Muslim countries. They get raped; they are guilty. They get stoned, they are beaten. I saw this. That is not love.
All you can do, my friend, is vote.
Everybody gets one vote (hopefully only one) to make her voice heard. One side has to lose. Be prepared either way.
He is Christian but I am Muslim and I have to tell you.....
There are wonderful muslims just like there are wonderful Christians. Then there are those Christians who bomb abortion clinics. There is Timothy McVeigh who was a Christian. Obama is not a muslim, but what if he were? I think you are racist. Be ashamed.
but he did have a Muslim upbringing. He sm
can't/won't produce any documentation that proves he was born in the United States because he wasn't. If you are not a US Citizen, you CAN'T be president of the United States.
I have a friend of mine who has a
few nieces who are biracial and they are absolutely beautiful kids. I think some of the cutest kids are "oreos."
Obama's friend
http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/2008/10/05/bill-ayers-weather-underground-not-just-anti-war/
close friend
My best friend had an abortion when she was a senior in high school. She was afraid to tell her parents. I took her and her boyfriend paid for the procedure. He did not go with her. Fast-forward 24 years. She has 3 children and has been married for 20 years. Does she regret her decision? Some days she does. Would she do it again? She says she would. She has talked about it with her teenage son and hopes that her children will never have to make the choice. She is a conservative Christian now (Assembly of God) and she still fights for abortion rights.
Black? You mean muslim.
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Gourdpainter, can I be your best friend?
Just kidding... But I like the way you post. I've found you far more interesting than any others on this board that use monikers. I don't use a moniker because I don't feel the need to, but I also agree to please let this man have some dignity while he mourns his grandmother.
No President will be able to make any changes overnight. The President is only as smart as the people around him.
Obama has stated again and again that it will not be easy but that we all must come together. I have not heard that once from the RNC, but only comments to bash a man because he may have a few beliefs that are different. He has a beautiful family (without all of the skeletons) and he does not plan for Americans to lose jobs but rather to make more jobs here and give tax credits to companies who hire people right here in the USA. He does have 2 daughters that will need an education and to prosper on American soil; does anyone not see that or is it just me?
I don't know much about the Muslim religion (sm)
but I do know that no one is born a Christian. That is not how we see it. You can be born to a Christian family and be taught Christian beliefs but you have to consciously decide to become a Christian, it is not something you are automatically born as.
Muslim? Christian?
PLEASANTVILLE, Iowa (CNN) -– Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was asked about his "Muslim background" by a potential voter at a coffee shop Saturday, and used the encounter as an opportunity to try to put to rest stories that he said had been "misreported."
Obama joined a group of four women in a booth to eat some pumpkin pie and sip a cup of tea. One of the women asked him how his "Muslim background" would affect his decisions as president.
"This is something that keeps on being misreported, so I’m glad you asked me," Obama, who is Christian, said.
He told them his father had lived in a Muslim-dominated village in Kenya, but “didn’t practice Islam."
"Truth is, he wasn’t very religious,” said Obama. “He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married, and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So I’ve always been a Christian."
He also touched on the fact that he lived in the Muslim country of Indonesia for four years of his childhood.
"I didn’t practice [Islam]," Obama continued, but added that being in that area had given him "insight into how these folks think."
Just before being pulled away from the table by a staffer, Obama told the women he had been a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ for the past 15 years.
My question is:
How can a child whose father is a nonpracticing Muslim, devorced from the mother, a Christian, and far away, become a practicing Muslim, when it is raised in the west? It cannot.
Some posters say that O's mother was an 'atheist'?? That's the first time I hear this.
She was a Christian and they, mother and grandmother, raised O as a Christian.
I have a friend in the same situation...sm
His father worked for GM and died several years ago, leaving my friend a nice trust fund and health care benefits and pension for his widow who currently is in a long-term care facility. My friend, who is an MT and cannot afford insurance and is in bad health himself, told me that when his mom loses her benefits at the first of the year, he doesn't know what they will do.
I don't know if blame the government for this mess as much as I blame mismanagement by the automakers with their big executive salaries and perks and insistence on manufacturing super trucks and huge SUVs. It seems to me that more could have been done to stem this before it got this far.
Your friend probably just guessed
I doubt she would have any credible knowlege. Obama came out of nowhere. The first time I and most other people ever heard of him was when he ran for Senator. I recall the media referring to him as an "up and coming" politician.
The financial collapse just sure came at an opportune time too didn't it? I shudder to think what's ahead. As I've said before, I'll put my faith in God and His will WILL be done in the end.
I have a friend who is there too!! I have to check on her now. nm
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The terrorist's best friend.
Is the Taliban on your Christmas card list as well?
You seem to have swallowed the leftist lies hook, line, and sinker.
Let's not forget to honor those hard-working, industrious Nazis while we're at it.
And the Sudanese guerrilas.
And the lonely, struggling serial killers and child molesters and suicide bombers.
Nevermind....my friend says
that won't work because marijuana is too easy to grow so government can't regulate it and tax it. My bad.....didn't know that.
I'm with ya, friend, thanks for posting, actually, ....sm
my post had nothing at all to do with "being poor" or "having it bad," etc., because even though we can't vacation and restaurant every time we want, WE PUT OURSELVES on a budget so we would not have to live on credit and loans, which by the way helped to contribute to the downfall of this country.
Oh, God forbid any put off spending if they do not have it, WE WANT IT NOW has been the battle cry for a long time, like spoiled stupid children, (except children HAVE an excuse), so people took out credit cards they could not pay off, mortgages for a house they knew they could barely afford, etc. Now we are all paying the price as people default, banks default because of it, and so on.
No, I feel I am lucky indeed, even though a big chunk of our money goes not to "serious debt" but to meds for: asthma, diabetes, migraine, systemic lupus, Sjogren's disease, and rheumatoid arthritis, even with insurance that is EXPENSIVE. But, I still love my life, I have a mom I adore, kids I adore, a husband who has stood together with me for almost 29 years now and we really love/like each other, we have a modest home, great neighbors and friends....and if we wait because we are paying on tuition bills, or too many meds in one week, whatever........
This is not about ME, or about Ms. perfect out there, it is about a single post with a PROPOSAL, AN IDEA, which just might be AN ANSWER among many that will get more people off welfare, more peole paying into the tax system, less people needing assistance (WHICH COSTS US BIG MONEY, and there have been many railing against on this board, as I have also), my God, what ever happened to sticking to the issues, disagree away, why be a snotty child and as usual, revert to personal "digs?"
Did you ever think maybe the reason is that he was not Muslim? nm
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