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I watched it and I have no idea where this is coming from....dark orifices? nm

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-25
In Reply to: Can someone tell me why everyone says Obama is wanting the elderly to die? - Amanda

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You are in the dark......just the way O wants it
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Dark Hole Sun
I hope some day, the medical community can figure out how to remove those sticks from up these self-righteous a$$es. Oh, I am so offended. Cover my eyes! You said the a-word!!!!  Oh, oh........don't read 'em - it's that simple.
Seems you are really into dark foreboding.
floats your boat, go fo it. I prefer to take my comfort in, "...to those who would tear the world down, we will defeat you."
I'm praying for you and your dark soul.

For those that want to continue to live in the dark
I do not care to do that. As a democrat, I have watched this man whom so many think will be their saving grace. This man was raised Muslim, is Muslim through and through, and only went Christian on us after he came here and started attending Rev Wright's church.

He is very careful about skirting around questions posed to him. He has never been able to prove US citizenship...refuses to put forth a legitimate birth certificate proving it, and is now facing a suit to hopefully force him to prove just that. I am not so easily led as some O lovers.

I have a close friend in Atlanta, GA, who is an aware winning journalist. This is where one of the most recent honor killings took place. As all campaigns are questioned when something important surfaces, they want to know how the candidate feels about certain things. Well, knowing Obama is Muslim by birth and upbringing, this question was posed out of Georgia to his camp, who would not give a straight answer. They refused to let Obama speak to this. They went round and round the question, but wouldn't even come out and say he would condemn such things. Not even a condemnation of these acts.

Just not easily led about this man.
"I am sorry your future is so dark and meaningless"
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He has got to paint as dark a picture as
pretty good job of it, so when just a glimmer of light shines through, he can tell you, Yes, I Did!

But, I sure hate to bust your bubble, we are noncombustible, we are not going extinct, we ain't going anywhere! We just here praying for our country.
Tonight: Frontline -- The Dark Side

Click on the link check local listings to see when it is on where you live.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/


The Dark Side


coming Jun. 20, 2006 at 9pm (check local listings)


(60 minutes) On September 11, 2001, deep inside a White House bunker, Vice President Dick Cheney was ordering U.S. fighter planes to shoot down any commercial airliner still in the air above America. At that moment, CIA Director George Tenet was meeting with his counter-terrorism team in Langley, Virginia. Both leaders acted fast, to prepare their country for a new kind of war. But soon a debate would grow over the goals of the war on terror, and the decision to go to war in Iraq. Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and others saw Iraq as an important part of a broader plan to remake the Middle East and project American power worldwide. Meanwhile Tenet, facing division in his own organization, saw non-state actors such as Al Qaeda as the highest priority. FRONTLINE's investigation of the ensuing conflict includes more than forty interviews, thousands of pages of documentary evidence, and a substantial photographic archive. It is the third documentary about the war on terror from the team that produced Rumsfeld's War and The Torture Question. (read the press release)


 


My dear....during some of this country's dark days....
whites with mental illness were also sterilized. How about slavery? How about thousands of white soldiers who died on battlefields to free them? How about the thousands of WHITES along the underground railroad who helped escaped slaves find homes?

YES, the preacher is hateful, the theology is racist.
Yeah, he turned....gone over to the dark side...nm

well, i would call it dark but not necessarily meaningless
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The dark side of faith (title of article)




(Considering how much importance the *right* religion is going to play in our future Supreme Court, I thought it was ironic that I found this at the Professional Ethics site. http://ethics.tamucc.edu/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/1656216)


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,0,3034570.story?track=hpmostemailedlink


The dark side of faith

By ROSA BROOKS

October 1, 2005

IT'S OFFICIAL: Too much religion may be a dangerous thing.

This is the implication of a study reported in the current issue of the Journal of Religion and Society, a publication of Creighton University's Center for the Study of Religion. The study, by evolutionary scientist Gregory S. Paul, looks at the correlation between levels of popular religiosity and various quantifiable societal health indicators in 18 prosperous democracies, including the United States.

Paul ranked societies based on the percentage of their population expressing absolute belief in God, the frequency of prayer reported by their citizens and their frequency of attendance at religious services. He then correlated this with data on rates of homicide, sexually transmitted disease, teen pregnancy, abortion and child mortality.

He found that the most religious democracies exhibited substantially higher degrees of social dysfunction than societies with larger percentages of atheists and agnostics. Of the nations studied, the U.S. — which has by far the largest percentage of people who take the Bible literally and express absolute belief in God (and the lowest percentage of atheists and agnostics) — also has by far the highest levels of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

This conclusion will come as no surprise to those who have long gnashed their teeth in frustration while listening to right-wing evangelical claims that secular liberals are weak on values. Paul's study confirms globally what is already evident in the U.S.: When it comes to values, if you look at facts rather than mere rhetoric, the substantially more secular blue states routinely leave the Bible Belt red states in the dust.

Murder rates? Six of the seven states with the highest 2003 homicide rates were red in the 2004 elections (Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina), while the deep blue Northeastern states had murder rates well below the national average. Infant mortality rates? Highest in the South and Southwest; lowest in New England. Divorce rates? Marriages break up far more in red states than in blue. Teen pregnancy rates? The same.

Of course, the red/blue divide is only an imperfect proxy for levels of religiosity. And while Paul's study found that the correlation between high degrees of religiosity and high degrees of social dysfunction appears robust, it could be that high levels of social dysfunction fuel religiosity, rather than the other way around.

Although correlation is not causation, Paul's study offers much food for thought. At a minimum, his findings suggest that contrary to popular belief, lack of religiosity does societies no particular harm. This should offer ammunition to those who maintain that religious belief is a purely private matter and that government should remain neutral, not only among religions but also between religion and lack of religion. It should also give a boost to critics of faith-based social services and abstinence-only disease and pregnancy prevention programs.

We shouldn't shy away from the possibility that too much religiosity may be socially dangerous. Secular, rationalist approaches to problem-solving emphasize uncertainty, evidence and perpetual reevaluation. Religious faith is inherently nonrational.

This in itself does not make religion worthless or dangerous. All humans hold nonrational beliefs, and some of these may have both individual and societal value. But historically, societies run into trouble when powerful religions become imperial and absolutist.

The claim that religion can have a dark side should not be news. Does anyone doubt that Islamic extremism is linked to the recent rise in international terrorism? And since the history of Christianity is every bit as blood-drenched as the history of Islam, why should we doubt that extremist forms of modern American Christianity have their own pernicious and measurable effects on national health and well-being?

Arguably, Paul's study invites us to conclude that the most serious threat humanity faces today is religious extremism: nonrational, absolutist belief systems that refuse to tolerate difference and dissent.

My prediction is that right-wing evangelicals will do their best to discredit Paul's substantive findings. But when they fail, they'll just shrug: So what if highly religious societies have more murders and disease than less religious societies? Remember the trials of Job? God likes to test the faithful.

To the truly nonrational, even evidence that on its face undermines your beliefs can be twisted to support them. Absolutism means never having to say you're sorry.

And that, of course, is what makes it so very dangerous.

It's a dark day in America when voters dare to feel inspired and hopeful?
rasberries
I watched this ....
interview. It was downright scary but Dean has pegged so many people so well...describing the followers of authority, no matter who or what gets hurt...the ones who will march off the cliff right behind their leaders  because they are **right**  (no pun intended), the people who hate liberals ***who is just about anyone who disagrees with them*** and this from John Dean. This explains so much about the things I read in places that shall remain unnamed.  When asked about fascism Dean said we are not there now but we are closer than we have ever been. Again, I wonder if we can last until 2008. Hopefully 2006 will give us a little relief.
I watched it all the way through.
I hope you did too, because it puts this whole mess directly at the feet of the Democrats.

The bill was effectively killed by the Democrats, and it was not McCain's choice not to take it to the floor for a vote. The Democrats on the committee voted against it to a man, none of them voted for it. So, it was dead, and taking it to the floor would have been an exercise in futility. However, if it had, it is obviously how McCain would have voted.

Obama did not "weigh in" on the issue, did you note?

This video is an indictment of the Democrats. Every time I think about the culpability and where we are now and how smug and superior they all act, like they had nothing whatsoever to do with it...I want to hurl. Preferably on their expensive Italian shoes!
I just watched
the time for campaignin movie again and it cheered me up :)

LOL

http://sendables.jibjab.com/sendables/1191/time_for_some_campaignin#/teaser/1191


BTW, if you actually watched Fox

instead of just pulling up blogs by people who continually bash Fox and spin things to make Fox look bad.....you would know that they did show the full clip including Obama wanting someone who will follow the constitution, etc.  However, no matter how you look at it....someone in that position is there strictly to follow the constitution, etc.  Empathy isn't something that really should be desired for one in that position.  People are naturally going to empathize with certain things but for that to be something you are looking for.....I don't know.  IMO, it just doesn't have it's place behind the bench.  Justice needs to be served and the constitution needs to be followed.....empathy needs to be checked at the door.


Once again people.....Fox is totally kicking other networks butts in ratings.  Why don't you actually turn off MSNBC or the We Love Obama Network and think for yourself.


Okay, now I watched the video
and all I can say is I don't know what that guy was on, and I don't even know his show, but I don't think he's going to replace Bill O'Reilly in the top spot anytime soon.  Maybe Jon Stewart, but not Bill...uh uh...  He is funny.  I'll give him that!     
Thanks. Watched it last night, and
they have the entire program on there too.  Didn't have time to see it all but intend to watch it when I get the time.  Thanks again, very kind of you to direct me there. 
I watched in on youtube.com...sm
She is a good speaker, very influential, and her voice needs to be heard in the Arab community. However, nothing she said convinced me that war in Iraq has brought stability there.
I watched Hardball too
I saw the gentleman that you are talking about. I almost can't watch those shows anymore because it is so scary. I have a feeling that the candidates will have to discuss this issue more and more as the time goes by. Our economy is on the verge of very big trouble and the rising gas prices are a significant part of that. Hopefully, people will start demanding that the candidates come up with a plan.
watched the SP interview

I felt very uncomfortable for her.  She was clearly out of her depth and Charlie really give her general questions, not detailed-oriented questions he could have asked.   The blank look she had at "Bush Doctrine" was the worst; the way she tried to get a hint from Charlie about what he was talking about was squirm-inducing. A commentator noted she agreed with Obama's policy on Afghanistan rather than McCain's.  I am hoping that voters will view her sympathetically as an uniformed foreign policy neophyte who simply cannot cram the vast knowledge required to deal with potentially explosive affairs in a few weeks time.  I am hoping voters are willing to give her a few more years to grow into a national position.  I am hoping voters will not put our children at risk by electing someone they "like" to be understudy to a man who is clearly being worn down physically by this campaign. We need well-informed, knowledgable leaders.  If voters want to reward people for service and likeability, they can do so with the numerous reality shows where viewers vote for candidates.


 


 


watched a documentary

on SP last night.  Did you know she went back to work 2 days after giving birth to little Flip?  Have mercy, any of us who have been blessed with children (not punished by them as Obama would think) knows that all the uterine tenacles have not even been detached in that short of a period.  I hope she wore a big old set of bloomers on her first day back.


 


I just watched whatever channel it is that has
channel working on my TV tonight. (No cable). Coverage seemed pretty unbiased, each person had their say, no eye-rolling by commentators or anything along those lines. I thought it was pretty good for a first debate. Not enough nuts 'n' bolts for me on either side, but ah, well. Hopefully that'll come later.
I watched a little of MSNBC afterwards
and they were calling it a tie. I figured they would have just called it for Obama. I am a liberal-leaning moderate and do watch MSNBC so I am well aware of their bias, but I was refreshingly surprised to see them be fair on this one.

On another note, any other libs out there been watching the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC? She is great, totally unabashedly liberal, but funny and not in-your-face confrontational. Really smart too, Stanford and a Rhodes Scholar. Yikes, I sound like a commercial!
You have GOT to be kidding. Have you watched....
any of the video from Ohio? "have you registered to vote?" "No." "Well, here register. Here's your ballot, you can vote today. Here's the bus. Let's go."

Pulleezzzeeee.
watched it the first time
didn't change my mind. Too many inconsistencies.
Anyone who watched her on Couric knows that and
Her town of Wasilla, tiny as it is, has 42 meth labs. Good job.
I just watched this. Can honestly say it was
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I just watched it on this link
He was funny in this and poked fun at himself.  I think that's a strong character trait.  I agree with you, sbMT!
Fox news and CNN. I just watched it.
It is just now coming out.  It surely will be a big hit tomorrow.  Some of the news reporters could not believe it and had to listen to it a few times.  Could not believe their ears, they stated.  It will ruin our economy for sure, they stated.  God help this country. 
If you had watched his rallies on a

NEUTRAL TV station, you would have been informed. I knew what McC wanted, I saw O's rallies, and that's why I didn't vote for him.


That's part of the problem. Too much one-sided media for the O, none for McC. Sickening.


I've watched all the others.

ABC, NBC, CBC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC. Any others I haven't thought of?


Most are the same; well, except for CNBC which is mostly stock and financial news. All the others report their one-sided take on the news or don't report it at all.


FYI: I watched most of the stations
I didn't stick to just one. I found MSNBC to be the most one-sided, and that includes NBC. Hours devoted to the O.
Have you ever watched Fox News? (sm)

I'm not talking about the COMMENTARY programs. I'm talking about the real news. Or do you listen only to the commentary programs that down Fox all the time? Are you brainwashed as to what you WANT to hear or do you really want to hear the truth?


Truthfully, you ought to take a look at a GOOD news program that is fair and balanced. Your eyes might be opened to the truth.


Early in the campaign, I only watched your so-called balance news and switched over to Fox out of curiosity because everyone was down on it...and guess what? I found them to give fairness in reporting. So...here I am watching now. They are equal in reporting between Obama,dems,  and repubs.


Plus they are usually first in reporting world news while other stations spew the same-old-same-old and only an hour or two later cut in with "breaking news" that Fox already has the handle on for hours.


I will always come to Fox News first if I want to know what's going on in the world.


You have watched Fox News? Hmm..
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I watched GMA last week and they

had 3 American born Mexicans on whose parents were deported because they were illegal. The eldest girl is now supporting her brother and sister (how?). They want the law changed that if the children are born in America, even if the parents are illegal, they get instant citizenship.


They were so sad because they only see their parents once a month. Well, you are right. My first question was why the children didn't go to Mexico with their parents? You don't have to answer that. I know that answer.


I try to look at both sides of the coin, but there's no way I can feel sorry for illegals putting their children in this position.


What truth? You have watched too many war movies. SM

The trauma to the Vietnam veterans was as much from the way they were treated when they returned home and the war protestors they listened to when they were dying in the fields as from the war.  Many MANY books have been written about this.  Educate yourself.  As far as calling people "pukes" I won't even comment on that.  You make all liberals look bad.  Please stop it.


You've watched his show?

Unless you are a 24/7 member (which I highly doubt due to the fact you hate him so much) how could you WATCH his show....it's a radio show?  I think you're confused.


 


Has anyone watched the HBO show on Central SM
High School in Little Rock?  It is the 50th year of the desegregation of that school.  It is a very intesting show and I wondered about others thoughts of it. 
I watched about half of it. Very funny.

I don't watch the show often, but I always enjoy it when I do, so I might just start watching more.  I watched his comedy special on HBO the other night and laughed my butt off.


Who watched last night's debate?
Looking for feedback of what you thought of last night's debate.  I found it highly entertaining to say the least.  HIllary was very strong and showed herself well.  Obama seemed to talk a lot but didn't say much.  Kerry drives me nuts, and I have come to the conclusion that if Kucinich had more of a personality, he would probably beating out Kerry.  I think the one that impressed me the most was Biden.  Anyone?
No problem. Glad you watched it.
I was totally riveted with it too.  I find it difficult to watch films about the war or any tragedy, but this film was so good I didn't want it to end.  I actually watched all the bonus footage too, which was very informative.  A must-see movie for sure!
I watched mccain forum

and what I saw was that when asked the question when is someone rich?  He was unprepared to answer.  He was off his talking points and tried to answer it.  To him, one has to make 5 mil a year to be considered rich.  He realized quickly what a boner he had made, smiled and said that would become a joke.  The joke is how many people still consider repubs to be concerned with anyone but the wealthy.  They are it rich; you should be too. If you are not, you are on your own.


 


 


Have watched him a long time....he says
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The last thing I watched that was current was....sm
Hustle, back in 2007. Never was into the reality shows, or any current sitcoms.


Maybe a movie on dish once or twice a year....I'm not kidding....


I work too much....big sigh.....(and no, I'm not sam...heehee)
Just watched him with Pres Bush and
Obama in the White House, definitely no droop, no change at all in his appearance.
should have watched good morning
actually biden may have answered questions and he didn't need palin to point out they were not factual.... good morning america sure did though.
I watched a whole thing on China

and how we can buy things so cheap at Walmart because the Chinese work for little money.  If the things we bought at Walmart were actually made here in the USA by Americans.....it would be a lot more expensive because Americans demand higher paying jobs.  That is the thing.  We are kind of screwed both ways.  Do we keep the job here in American and pay a heck of a lot more money for things we get cheap now or do we continue to keep China in business by sending our jobs over there.  Kind of a double-edge sword when you think about it. 


I personally think that we should bite the bullet and pay more for American made goods so we can keep jobs here in America.  The more we want cheaper stuff, the more we will be buying stuff made in China and the less jobs we have in America.


I've watched clips of
Barrack Obama at the Chicago Obamafest.  As per usual, Obama gave no definite answers to some lingering questions but each time he made a statment about doing something the crowd would chant "yes we can."  I didn't think much about it at the time until they kept doing it and it suddenly hit me......it was like Bob the Builder.  Can we fix it.....YES WE CAN!  LOL! 
I watched this last night and thought
Stewart was absolutely spot on. This interview ranks right up with his Crossfire appearance.