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If I were Catholic, think I would have more things to worry about.

Posted By: Linda on 2009-01-31
In Reply to: Ad rejected by NBC during superbowl - Chele

First, I find it hard to believe that any religious group would want to run such a slanted story. A prolife group could turn around with abortion films to say some of these would have turned out to be priests. With all the abuse going on in the Catholic church, I think some of their energy would be better spent in cleaning their own home first.


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Obama has other things to worry about: North Korea! Israel:Palestine etc...
Why are you so interested to know WHO visits the White House in top secret meetings?

This is not what Obama meant when he said...'I will open the White House...!
Not being Catholic........ sm
I don't know all the intracasies of the rite of communion in the Catholic Church, but as a Baptist, I do know that our pastor asks each person to examine their own heart before taking communion as we believe that taking communion with unrepented sin does bring damnation on the individual. HOWEVER, at least in my church, he would never go so far to tell a person whether or not they were "worthy" of taking communion. That decision is between the individual and God alone.
Catholic Church


A Huge Embarrassment
Washington Prowler

Nancy Pelosi's big mouth is the last problem the Obama campaign wanted to contend with.

The Prowler, 8/27/2008 12:08:39 AM

 



 



In its newly ratified platform, the Democratic Party reinvigorates its commitment to abortion.

Daniel Allott, 8/27/2008 12:07:55 AM

 


American Papists
The Nation's Pulse

This time Nancy Pelosi has truly gone too far -- which isn't good news for Joe Biden either.

Lisa Fabrizio, 8/27/2008 12:07:20 AM

 

Found at spectator.org.  Other info at wnd.com

roman catholic

The Roman Catholic church believes that any nonbarrier birth control method is abortion.  That includes birth control pills, I.U.D, patch, anything.


They also believe that every sexual act should be open to the gift of a baby by God, therefore condoms and diaphragms are not really keeping things "open."


They also believe that avoiding sex during your fertile period using the "rhythm method" is also bad because theoretically you could avoid having children altogether.


However, it is not a mortal sin not to have children, just follow the above rules.


So Pro-Life really is not a political issue.  It really is a religious issue that they turned into a political issue.


 


I don't know about the catholic Bible sm
but have you ever really sat down and read your Bible or are you depending on a priest to interpret for you. You should sit down with your Bible and pray for the Holy Spirit to reveal his word to you.
typo - meant cite things as hoax, not "site" things
Just thought I'd correct that before I get pummeled by the people who want to believe snopes is a truthful organization.
Catholic Archbishops Are Speaking

Here is a mere sampling of responses to Nancy Pelosi's attempt to rewrite the abortion issue on Meet The Press on Sunday.  Flame their words all you want, but this goes back throughout the archives at the Vatican.  Also, Pope John Paul was just as outspoken regarding this subject as Pope Benedict is. 


If someone can find a way to justify abortion after reading these posts, all I can say is "good luck."  Do your own research and you'll see where many Catholics "in charge" are far from impressed with this. Search Pelosi abortion, Biden, etc., and you'll find plenty. Evangelicals feel the same way.


http://thehill.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75650&Itemid=70


And another from the Washington Post:


Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden


Valerie Richardson and Julia Duin
Tuesday, August 26, 2008



DENVER | Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. arrived at the Democratic National Convention on Monday amid rumblings over whether his pro-choice Catholicism would help or hurt the Democratic ticket.


An Irish-Catholic from a working-class upbringing, Mr. Biden won the nod as presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama's running mate in part because of his appeal to blue-collar Catholics, the same voters who swung during the primary for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.


Although he represents Delaware in the Senate, Mr. Biden grew up in Pennsylvania, a must-win state for Democrats in November.


But the party's hopes of winning the critical Catholic vote took a hit Sunday when Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver said Mr. Biden should avoid taking Communion as a result of his pro-choice stand on abortion.


Archbishop Chaput, who was scheduled to lead a pro-life candlelight vigil Monday night here in front of Planned Parenthood, called Mr. Biden's support for abortion rights "seriously wrong," said archdiocese spokeswoman Jeanette DE Melo.


"I certainly presume his good will and integrity," said the archbishop, "and I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for Communion if he supports a false 'right' to abortion."


The archbishop, who was not invited to speak at any convention events in what appeared to be a deliberate snub, told the Associated Press that he would like to speak privately with Mr. Biden.


The debate underscored what has emerged as a central theme of this year's convention: the tension between the Democratic Party's renewed outreach to religious voters and its long-standing support for unfettered access to abortion.


At a panel discussion Monday sponsored by Google on "The Shifting Faith Vote: What It Means for the Election," panelists said that concerns over social issues, such as poverty, are moving some faith-based voters away from the Republican Party.


At the same time, they haven't aligned with the Democrats, primarily because of the abortion issue.


"The push for the Democratic Party is to have a new position on abortion," said Steve Waldman, Editor of the religious Web site beliefnet.com. "When you look at Catholics and evangelicals, you see that they agree with 80 percent of what [Mr. Obama] says, but there's this stumbling block with abortion."


Whether pro-choice Catholics should take Communion became a major issue in 2004 during Democrat John Kerry's run for the presidency when more than a dozen bishops, including Archbishop Chaput, publicly asked the senator from Massachusetts not to present himself for the Eucharist.


Their stance may have given a boost to President Bush, who increased his share of the Catholic vote from 47 percent in 2000 to 52 percent in 2004.


Catholics, the nation's largest religious voting bloc, represent 26 percent of the electorate. Alexia Kelley, executive director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, said that 11 percent of those this year are considered "swing voters," more than in any recent election year.


Catholic advocacy groups didn't wait long before weighing in on the "wafer wars." The conservative Catholic group Fidelis condemned the selection of Mr. Biden.


 

Your Catholic propaganda belongs on the
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I didn't take this as catholic propaganda
Yes, it's obvious it was created by catholics, but the overall message was vote your conscious (p.s. I'm Athiest so if anyone I would be offended). Yes, I could have done without putting catholic this or catholic that up there, but the message was clear to me - vote your conscious (and they didn't tell me who I should vote for - that's a plus in my book).
I am also Roman Catholic. What's wrong with that?
Aren't Catholics, Protestants, Greek Orthodox, Roman Orthodox etc....all Christians? I not understand.

And I am pro choice, up to the 4th month. I think it is better than bringing a child into this world, for which I am not prepared and deep down do not welcome, out of different reasons.
And I prefer an abortion to giving up my baby for adoption. I would not be able to sleep a single night, having given my baby to strangers.
o.k., inside the catholic school....nm
nm
bone up - he also attended Catholic school
so do you think he is the antichrist now?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
The catholic school offered several choices of
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I blame the Catholic church for allowing this to go on for so very long. SM

I have a lot of conservative friends and I seriously doubt they would condone this.   I knew there was a reason I stayed away from these boards.   As the poster above said, your post came up in a headline or I would never have come here.  


He attended only 4 years in this Catholic School in Jakarta,
1st to 5th grade, age 7-11 years, from 1968 till 1972.

Can you beat my research?
not THEIRS, mother is American and Catholic, father and stepfather Muslim..
yes and Islamic teachings only t h e s e 4 years in Jakarta, Indonesia, and maybe only 2 years.
Barack was 7-11 years old at that time.
SC Roman Catholic priest says Obama supporters shouldn't receive

By MEG KINNARD | Associated Press Writer
9:04 PM EST, November 13, 2008
 
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) _ A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."


The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.


"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.


"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."


During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.


But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers — and voters — should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.


According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County — traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas — went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.


"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."


Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.


Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.


"Father Newman is off base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."


A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.


"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."


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On the Net:


St. Mary's Catholic Church: http://www.stmarysgvl.org/


Don't worry

Humor is completely lost on them. 


Let me worry about how I look
don't worry your hateful little head.
Don't worry!

I am very sorry for the worry you will have.
At the same time, I  hope you did not share these feelings with your son.
here's what I worry about
I agree with you that she will back up Obama when he is the official presumptive nominee. I think she is sincere in wanting to get a Democrat in the white house, even if it's not her. What I worry about is in her neverending quest to be the nominee she has made her loyalists very anti-Obama. She's really hurting the Democrats' chances in November by fighting this so hard with the rules committee and all. We need a unified party for November. I also worry that her loyalists are going to try to bully Obama into putting her on the ticket (not a good pairing IMO), as in, put her on the ticket or we won't vote for you in November.
And......Does that worry you? nm
sssssssss
At least they don't have to worry about having to ...sm
lose everything they have worked for all their lives because of a serious illness that their insurance won't cover.
Something I think all of us should worry about.
This whole ACORN thing is just nuts.  A guy who is currently in England said that he already registered and voted early which proves that voter fraud is happening.  This is something that should concern both democrats and republicans.  Now I'm sure a lot of these registrations obviously won't show up to vote, but what about the ones who registered and then voted the same day.  What about them?  I just think it is a shame.  Our country is better than this.  The voters deserve better than this. I'm all for getting people to go out and vote.  That is our right as American citizens to cast our vote......but when dishonest people pull this kind of stuff....it just really saddens me.
Oh, don't worry about me...
I'd pass. Would you?
Well, don't worry............sm
you won't get rotund on Obama's ice cream. He will make sure of that.

Still, I think you are rude and extremely condescending and arrogant to talk to people the way you do. sheesh.
Don't worry
I don't think it will be too long after January 20th that this board will be filled with "I can't believe Obama did that" or "That's not what Obama said he was going to do" He's also backed out on the promise of Change by surrounding himself with reruns of the Clinton administration. The time to not be blinded was before the election - now we have to make sure we're not fooled for the next four years.
Don't worry, they are going to have
hands!
Don't worry, she ain't going away!! she
name....she has too much fun here arguing with herself! ! I think she is hilarious, which ever name she uses.
"I won't have to worry..."
Obviously you do not watch TV.  There have been numerous Obama supporters (albeit poor, uneducated people who were promised the moon to get on the bus and vote) who have been interviewed on TV stating, "I voted for Obama, now I won't have to worry about paying my mortage or paying for groceries or health care-Obama will take care of me now."  I've watched those people on TV and just go to YouTube and you can watch the reruns.
Don't worry Lu...
Jack Murtha already said he'd house some of them in his district in PA. They're no worse than what he has there already. How get gets re-elected I'll never know.
O is doing nothing to worry me, FYI. nm


Don't worry...(sm)
The "pigs" will balance the budget.  We just have to clean out all that manure that was left in the trough first.
nothing much we can do about it - so i just worry about
taking it 1 day at a time. If i keep my job 1 more day, i can buy some food. If i keep my job for 2 weeks, I can pay 1/2 my rent. And so on. MT is a hand-to-mouth world these days, so I dont have the time nor the energy to worry about what the big shots up on the Hill are doing.
Hon, don't worry about getting your
spelling straightened out. You got too many other problems in your life you need to get straightened out to worry about a little misspelled word!!!

No, that marriage ceremony was not gender specific, but how in the world would Adam and Steve ever have replenished the earth? Oh, I know, I am just one of those religious whacks, I guess. Thank God He gave me that much intelligence!! Good luck to you.
Not to worry. I don't think they'd be particularly
Regardless of what your sexual orientation might be.
Don't worry.
I am sure you will lose your rights and be extraordinarily renditioned by Homeland Security to one of the FEMA concentration camps for re-education before the bill comes due for this current economic crisis.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less.  I won't answer in this thread anymore. 
I don't know. I worry about attorneys too
their life of fiscal sacrifice must be a hard cross to bear too...
I guess my worry is.
Like so many laws, once they are passed, they get bastardized to cover things they were not initially intended to.  I think this might be worth paying close attention to.  It just kind of makes me feel hinkey, if you know what I mean.
I wouldn't worry about it
Honestly, I think the last thing he needs to worry about is Hillary.  I doubt he will get into the White House to begin with.  The Rethugs will do anything to put a stop to that.  I think they are the bigger threat in this picture.
yeah that's what i sit and worry about
What difference does it make?  If she was wearing designer clothing, everyone would have something to say about that as well.  Who cares what she's wearing as long as she's respectful.  Gosh, some people find anything to complain about. 
Don't worry. That list will take a while
nm
Are you deaf? I said not to worry, we will be ..sm
living in a democratic country when Obama is president.
Don't think we have to worry about communism
Russia is in worse shape than we are. From CNBC, as of yesterday, we were down 17%, Russia 42%. I can't remember if that was the currency value or markets. Maybe you can check. I'm trying to work. LOL
O doesn't have to worry about NY
Well, I doubt O has to worry about carrying NY, I think it is pretty much a given. Wonder how much influence they have on other states.
Don't worry about the poster below
You stick to your gut instincts. You are right on so many levels. Most of what you say is true and we should all try to buy what is made in this country and discount any companies that have moved our jobs overseas or over the border.

Obama has some wonderful "butterflies and gumdrop" view of thinking he can be everybody's buddy, including Pakistan, which you notice he pronounces much differently than most and that says a lot to me, as well as Venezuela, Brazil, Russian, Cuba; the list goes on and on. Heaven only knows what deals with the devil he will make to get them to like "him" and I can guarantee you he will make this all about him.

The very idea that he tries to portray to the people in this country that 200-250K somehow makes you rich is a very deviant, sneaky, way of trying to mould a picture to the middle class of those "mean old rich folks" who have more than you like that is a terrible thing. How dare someone have something more than you! Isnt' that terrible? Don't you think we should take their money and partake? That way, none of you will have to work hard to achieve anything. Well, we have too many of those in this country that already sit on their duffs and do nothing but wait for the next check. We don't need to further the welfare state we are already in.

Your beliefs are dead on, so you just stick with them.
Not to worry. You are not the crazy one...sm
Pretty scary even if the poster represents only a small percentage of Americans. Thank God above they are in the minority. Keep the faith. Better times are coming. THese are just the tactics of desperate ignorant people but we will rise them up with us and show the world that Americans as a whole are not ignorant, gun toting, bigoted war mongers. Keep the faith.
is not going to have to worry. Whoops!
nm
Not to worry, her own party won't have her... sm
They see what she did to McCain and how she is really out for herself. It was a giant mistake that McCain won't admit but many many many republicans jumped ship because of Palin.