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If you insist, we could always bring Bristol

Posted By: Back into the dialog, but hey.... on 2008-11-01
In Reply to: I could have sworn....sm - sm

unlike McC's supporters, I actually listen to my candidate when he says off limits. You are too covered with mud to realize he was defending your idiotic VP candidate and trying to shield her and her family from the glare of some VERY unfavorable media. The only chickens around this roost coming back are the ones that W set loose in the coop. I'll pass on following up the skeletons in McC's closet out of respect for my candidate's feelings. REAL American family values tell us not to go there.


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We don't bring it up to dismiss Bush, we bring it up...
to show that your criticism holds no water.  It's not a political thing, it's a human thing.  People have shortcomings.  Now, if you want to have a statute of limitations on this thing, then I guess Bush is off the table as it's been about 20 years since his last drink, believe it or not (I know that's your next reply, that he still drinks, which you have no proof of so don't even try it).
Why is it you insist
on saying she is stupid?  She has successfully run her state with high approval ratings.  Do you have a problem with people who say doggoneit?  That is stereotypical of you. 
What I wonder is how people look like who insist that
Michelle ist gorgeous, beautiful, wow, lovely, fantastic.c....?
We insist bc issue has NOT been debunked because
Still waiting for the courts to decide.
why do you insist on changing the subject
when Bush was in and we mentioned Clinton we'd be hemmed and hawed at that Clinton and Gore were gone and to get over it. Now that we say something about Mr. Messiah and we get Bush/Cheney comments.

Give it a rest. They are gone.
Why do you insist on ignoring the facts?..(sm)

They are not trying to "teach our children that homosexuality is an accepted lifestyle."  They are trying to teach our children how not to beat the crap out of someone who is different, including homosexuals.  How hard is that to understand?  If people were teaching this at home, they wouldn't have to teach it at school.


Its called TOLERANCE, not acceptance. 


No one uses "peahen", so I insist on the "Mr." for sake of clarity.
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Bristol might not want to be a celeb

Wasn't it nice for Jamie Lynn to support her?  NOT!  Big Ole Not!  But it's a private matter, but I bet she puts Jamie Lynn's expensive bib on her new baby!  What is this world coming to?  And you all say celebs and politicians don't mix!  Even Dr. Phil has something to say... 


http://www.atlanticbb.net/video/?vendid=10&vid=205280&sc_cid=wccel2


Bristol also stated that she would...
have preferred getting pregnant 10 years later, having finished her college education and having landed a job.
Sounds to me that she was prevented to make her choice.
In Bristol's house, choice was never
Who know's? If she had felt comfortable enough to come to her mother about birth control, she may not now be in the position to (In Palin's own word) "grow up faster than we had ever thought." Furthermore, this begs the question of sex education taboos, both in the household and in the schools, parental controls over acess to education, the judgment involved in making these decision about access to education and birth control and so forth. Guess Plain was having a bit of difficulty balancing her priorities while governor. Of course, lost in the shuffle is the fact that no one will ever know how Bristol feels about her siutation, the decisions that she may or may not have made herself and the national spotlight she now finds herself in. This coming out of the ethics-housekeeper's own house. Unwittingly, she has really shone a brand new light on herself and the issues at hand. Way to go, Palin. John McCain probably knows by now that maybe he should have done a bit more homework before he got himself and his party into this pickle.
Bristol betrothed to (*&%* redneck

Already intensely caricatured, Mrs Palin and her family face heavy exposure as the US and international media attempt to fill the vacuum of information about the relatively little-known 44-year-old mother of five.


The most recent revelations surround the announcement that her teenage daughter, Bristol, was pregnant.



In a statement, Mrs Palin, who is avowedly pro-life, said Bristol intended to have the baby and would marry the father, Levi Johnston.


Johnston has described himself on his MySpace page as "a f***ing redneck", the New York Post reports. "But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s*** and just f***in' chillin' I guess," the 18-year-old hockey player wrote.


"Ya f --- with me I'll kick [your] a$$."


His My Space page has since been removed.


Johnston also wrote: "I don't want kids."


Bristol Palin's Due Date
According to Levi Johnson, the baby daddy, Bristol Palin's due date is TODAY, December 18. It'll be interesting to see and hear what happens or doesn't happen in the next couple of weeks.

Here's how desperate the GOP is: During their convention, in September the religious family-values party trotted out an unwed teenage mother-to-be and the knucklehead who knocked her up, and they gave them a standing ovation.
Bristol Palin interview...(sm)
Looks like Bristol is going to be the complete opposite of her mother.  In the interview she said that abstinence is "not realistic."  Good for her!  Another thing that got my attention was the use of the word "choice" when speaking about her decision to have the child.   Hmmm....
You should all apologize to Sarah and Bristol Palin....

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/


geezzzz, people.


Do not patronize. Bristol has no real voice here.
She, her baby and her husband be living their private lives out on the alter of sacrifice for the sake of SP, regardless of how the news got out there. It's out now and mom's ambitions played just as much role in this tragedy as any rumor factory you will repeatedly try to use as a scapegoat. No need to beat this dead horse and repeat youself a thousand times tonight. The media will not show restraint and the internet, even less. We will all have our bellies full of this as the convention grinds on. One thing is certain, Palin just rained on her own parade.
McCain knew about Bristol before he picked her so what on Earth does that say...sm
about his judgment?!?! Palin has her hands full at home...I understand why he chose a woman but why this one I will never understand?!?!
Where do think they fit on the Bristol Stool Scale? My guess is type 1 nm
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Bristol's future MIL arrested on 6 counts of felony drug charges.
Palins can't seem to catch a break this past week. 
So tell me - what political office does Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin hold -sm
Answer: None. What contract did they sign? Answer: None. If they did sign a contract like you said they did, I'd like to see the paper with their signatures on it. This post has nothing to do with the job that Gov. Palin is doing. It has nothing to do with what she is doing in her office, politics, or for the people of Alaska. It is not talking about issues that affect our lives on a daily basis (like skyrocketing taxes, unemployment, people losing homes, etc). This post is about as juvenile as they come. Again you need to take this to the gab board or a website that speaks of such juvenile issues.

Last I knew Sarah Palin was not exploiting anything right now. She has gone back to Alaska and is no longer running for VP for an election that has ended. And if you want to talk about exploiting children lets talk about Biden and that grandson he grabbed up and held onto everytime a camera came into site. It was like watching George with Kuato attached to his chest from the movie Total Recall. Now that there is a crat prop if I ever saw one.

If you hate Palin so much then fine. At least have the decency to pick on her for something she did. Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin do not hold any political office and they did not sign any contracts so that they could be bashed and harrassed the rest of their lives.

You said it "if you are looking for a more intelligent read, I suggest you start reading comic books". So you even admit that your posts are less intelligent than comic books.

I would suggest you and others that want to continue this juvenile discussion there are still issues of Archie and Veronica and Veronica and Betty comic books out there you could read too.

As for non-political issues (i.e. Levi Johnson and Bristol Palin's personal lives) take it to the gab board or a teenager website where you could discuss til your hearts content. Leave this board for political discussions.

And give it a rest. We are sick of non-political issues on this board.
To bring in an oil well........ sm
takes about 10 to 14 days, depending on the area being drilled.  This is for a land rig, not an off-shore rig.  I live in a very oil and gas rich area of the country and I see them going up and coming down in a matter of days. 
You know better than to bring
the Big JC into conversations on this board.  Liberal nut jobs will start screaming about how church and government should be separate and how dare we force our religion on them.  Next we will go into staying out of women's uteruses and allow the murder of unborn children but OMG.....don't even think about shooting wolves in Alaska as a predator control program because that is just horrible!!! 
Ill go there this weekend and bring
you back some posts. I just went there once and could not stomach it. I havent checked out the Dem underground board yet.
sally bring your

post regarding Mccain's lack of support for troops up the top.  It is highly relevant and I think it is buried in the muck and name-calling below.


 


Bring on the Miracle Gro. lol. nm
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Don't bring a bat to a gunfight.
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Aaah, you want to bring it up here....okay
You seemed to have lived a very privileged life but
my family wasn't privileged. We did for ourselves and never felt we were better than others as your family did. We didn't use others to do our work for us. My father, mother, grandfather and grandmother worked side by side with blacks, doing the same jobs they did in factories, in the fields, you name it. I was never raised to believe I was better than others as you were. You obviusly didn't despise your family's racism too much. You still used your nanny, maids, whatever you want to call them and I'm sure you didn't wait on yourself hand and foot. So please don't sit there and sound all sanctimonious about your life. I actually lived life growing up and knew what it was to not be raised to think I was better than everyone else. I never looked at black people as someone who should "do our work" for us as you did. Perhaps you would know best about prejudice, bigotry and racism, since you were so established in a family that did. What I do know is the black people that lived close to us, and there were many, worked side by side with my family members, all being paid the same and all sweating through the summer sun working until dark to plant crops and harvest them together. My family picked cotton out in the blazing summer heat side by side with blacks as well. Did yours? Of course not.

So, until YOU'VE actually lived and worked for REAL with those you want to keep down and feel so sorry for, you need to learn to keep your mouth shut.

Nobody needs your kind trying to sound so self righteous when all you're really trying to do is ease your mind and your guilt.

Don't make that my issue.
You sound like a self-righteous hypocrit.


For Obama also to bring in that Rev?
"Black will not be asked to sit in back.... brown will be asked to stick around.... and WHITE will embrace what is right".     --I am already hearing from friends who are so disappointed in that. Why do that?  That does not unite anyone....only ticks off white people who have never been racists, but may be assumed to be simply for being white. Obama should have NEVER allowed this kind of statement. I do not treat any color differently than myself. I have a Chinese friend, a black friend, a Mexican friend. When we have all come so far, to dig up the past in this way is not good. I have even experienced reverse racism when trying to get a job, yet I just deal with it. If Obama is a uniter, he needs to stop this reminder of race and act as if we are all the same color.
I bring the popcorn!!
Oh, the mental picture I get from that one!!
if in doubt..bring up an old GT post
MT, I have never posted on the conservative board..because the responses would boil my blood.  I dont know what post you are talking about..However, reading these posts this morning, one of your conservative *friends* posted about hoarding to American Woman, how she hoards information and then blasts away with old information from old posts..I have to tell ya, I laughed at that post cause, OMG, you guys, from the conservative board, have done nothing but bring up old posts that either I have posted or have been attributed to me, over and over and over and over and over and over..**If it doubt with nothing to say, bring up an old GT post**,
I figured that'd bring out the first-graders:)
Nice to know I'm not yet over-estimating the self-flagellating opposition.
I cannot bring myself to think they made it happen, but...sm
using the who stood to benefit/gain rule in solving a crime, there is room for suspicion. War is very profitable - world bankers and Halliburton? If they were incompetent, why were some promoted, and why aren't they standing trial for that? There are just too many unanswered questions, so I think in that sense they do need to reopen the investigation and do it properly. No one and I mean NO ONE will be getting away with killing 3000 Americans.
why did you even bring this up - looks like you are trying to start a fight
Everytime a subject is brought out you seem to like to interject a bash to Sam. I've been reading the posts and nowhere in response to my post here did I see sam post a "message with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating argument". I'm reading the responses to my post about issues and I'm not seeing one from sam called "let the games begin", so I have no idea what you are talking about. If your talking about another post awhile back, then start a new thread, but for Pete's sake don't drag it into mine. Forget sam - it looks like you are the one who is trying to start arguments. Leave your personal hatred out of this and be an adult for once. Posts like this I would expect from my 12 year old, but we are adults here. What's frustrating is to finally start reading about a lot of issues that both sides would like to know about and info they are sharing with us and then all of a sudden - bam, here comes your post bashing sam. I'm sitting here now looking at all the responses to my post and I'm not seeing the one you are talking about. Lets stick to issues and facts. It also sounds like some other posters want that too.
You bring up such a good point...
my partner drives a school bus in 2 areas, a very impoverished area, and then in the 'upper class' area, and he never gets over all the kindness and gifts he gets from the poorest of people during holidays, while the more affluent areas not even give nothing, they do not even treat him as a person.

I have noticed that during post office drives, you always see the most donated goods hanging on the mailboxes in poor neighborhoods, and very rarely anything from the huge gigantic housing developments. not to say they do not give but it really says SO MUCH.

we are musicians here where I live also and even the money-making machine bars and restaurants, they want to get everything free, they are making musicians around here go broke and do not care at all. they hold open mics and get everyone to play for free, while over-charging for every other little service, and give the musicians nothing, not even a free pop or coffee (or drink if you drink).

by the way, these establishments all boast they are christians/family establishments.
Nope, but that's where the movement to bring it
It USED to be a private decision. And even if you wackos manage to get Roe v Wade overturned, it will STILL be a private decision & procedure, and women and teenagers will still continue to obtain abortions, regardless of how much it is legislated against. The only difference will be in the safety of the procedure.

Clean hospital OR, or dimly-lit back-alley? I've had friends nearly die from the former. I choose the latter.
I did not bring up Obama. The fact is
we don't need that promise from him as we are already doing it, and have been for years! Perhaps our older retired women will catch onto the new fertility efforts and start getting their pay raises, too!
Bring your balls and we'll all go!
Spare me to death.
Why do you people always have to bring "God" into

Now wouldn't that bring accountability to the government?sm
If people could choose which programs they want to fund. I think we should all be given a form with our tax form and we get to choose where we which programs to fund. That way if no one supported a program it wouldn't happen.

The government should really do this.
When you can't defend the present why do you always bring up the past?

You just want to make me puke! If you want to bring Jesus into ...sm
the discussion, what would Jesus say about the politics of today, how we provide for the weak, elderly and helpless. I am a Christian but respect people of all faiths. What would Jesus say about 99% of the people of the world living in poverty while less than 1% live in luxury, never using their wealth to help the less fortunate?
I agree...and to bring a Christian viewpoint
..the Bible does state there is a time for peace and a time for war.
well of course...how silly of me...don't bring up the timber in our eyes...
concentrate on the splinter in my own. Got it. LOL.
but bring up Obama's questionable background, and
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Biden just can't bring himself to bad mouth McCain
He knows he's already said his peace about Obama. He doesn't like the guy, doesn't think he is trusthworthy, and has questioned Obama's associations time and time again. That said enough for me. If his own VP doesn't care him, then something else is going on. Obama didn't choosen Biden because he thought he wanted him...

Makes one wonder what is really going on here.
Why would Obama bring his entire family
they were all just there as recently as August 7th? Michelle was an effective, seamless stand-in on the trail. Stop and think for a minute. Malia is 10 and Natasha is 7. That would make them both school age. They visited their GM 2-1/2 months ago when, although her health was frail, she was in much better shape, now that she has broken her hip and just been released from the hospital, is "gravely ill" and believed to be near the end.

A couple of things to consider. As responsible parents, it seems to me that the Obamas have all they can say grace over just trying to maintain some sense of normalcy during a heated and often hateful political campaign. Children of this age do their best when their normal routines are maintained. What makes no sense to me is the idea that they should return to Hawaii to see their GM after her health has deteriorated considerably, is weak and probably not looking that good. Personally, I would want to protect my children from seeing that, especially if it meant preserving a final memory of their grandmother during the happier days of a family vacation, rather than a deathbed scene.

I do not see anything "weird" in their decision not to take their children out of school in the middle of the week, put them on a 10-hour 4250 mile flight for a 1-day jet-lagged stay and a final farewell, and then turn them right back around again for a second 10 hour 4250 mile trip.

There is a distinct possibility that in the next 10 days, these children's lives are going to be changed forever, should they become the first children. They will be negotiating the glare of the media and in another 2 months, could be making a move from Chicago to DC into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be dealing with the death of their grandmother in the middle of all that.
Can you post the link again? I couldn't bring it up.
I'm from coal country and I heard about this but want to see it with my own eyes.
Me too, I respect what you bring to the board - see message
I've been on this board probably for a couple months or so and I've seen your posts and I enjoy the articles you post and reading your opinions. I too get very tired of posting something and then getting bashed for it. A week or so ago I had made a determination to not post anymore because I was so tired of being bashed and being called a racist because I was not voting for the O. I too would like to have posters stick to issues and not bash. Post information and read it for what it's worth. If you don't like it move on. Thanks to other posters who asked me to stay on I have decided to because we all have the same rights. I'm with you though...stick to articles, information, and issues and let the bashing go.

Just wanted you to know I respect you and hope you'll keep posting.
Hope they bring charges against him for war crimes.
I wonder if there is any member of the GOP who is able to accept these realities and own up to just a fraction of this despicable behavior? His inevitable legacy as the worst US President of all time does not even begin to address the justice he deserves.
Interesting article:How to bring back the big 3

These articles were very interesting. GM states they may stop producing Hummer, Saab, Saturn, and PONTIAC. Geez, what will be left? They dropped my favorite car and now I drive a Buick.


http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/17/news/companies/sachs_carmakers.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2009021711


And don't forget this article: What will and Won't Save Detroit


http://money.cnn.com/?cnn=yes


And this one: 4 Questions for GM & Chrysler


http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/16/news/companies/what_to_look_for/index.htm?postversion=2009021615


right, but has he to bring a BIG American flag into the office
too, before even asking what the office policies are regarding this?
Oh slam Obama all day, but don't bring up BUSH
He's the one that put us in the mess. Get it?