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If you want to stay in a good mood DON'T READ...sm

Posted By: Democrat on 2006-06-07
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Ann is such a tacky little witch that it's not funny.  Even if I were republican I would not defend her.  Kudos for Hillary for responding to her outright disrespect to these 9-11 widows.  I don't understand for the life of me how she could tout being pro-military, pro-America and call liberals Godless when she is walking around disrespecting four 9-11 widows with that xxxxxxx smile on her face.  Phew! I feel a little better already.

Hillary Lashes Out at Ann Coulter
Jun 07 7:16 PM US/Eastern








WASHINGTON


New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lashed out at Ann Coulter for a vicious, mean-spirited attack on a group of outspoken 9/11 widows, whom the right-wing television pundit described as self-obsessed and enjoying their husbands' deaths.

Coulter writes in a new book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, that a group of New Jersey widows whose husbands perished in the World Trade Center act as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them.



She also wrote, I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much.

Clinton, who has felt Coulter's wrath over the years, responded angrily on Wednesday.

Perhaps her book should have been called 'Heartless,' the senator said. I know a lot of the widows and family members who lost loved ones on 9/11. They never wanted to be a member of a group that is defined by the tragedy of what happened.

The New York Democrat and former first lady said she found it unimaginable that anyone in the public eye could launch a vicious, mean-spirited attack on people whom I've known over the last four and a half years to be concerned deeply about the safety and security of our country.

The senator spoke after delivering a speech on protecting children from exposure to sex- and violence-saturated media.

Coulter appeared Tuesday on NBC's Today show, and reiterated her stance, saying the women used their grief to make a political point.

Her criticism was aimed at four New Jersey women whom she dubbed The Witches of East Brunswick, after the town where two of them live.

They have spent the years since the 2001 terror attacks supporting an independent commission to examine government failures before the attack, and in the 2004 presidential campaign they endorsed Democrat John Kerry.

The women are Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza of New Jersey.

The women, who are still pushing for changes in how the government guards against future attacks, issued a joint statement after Coulter's television appearance.

We have been slandered. Contrary to Ms. Coulters statements, there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again. We adored these men and miss them every day, the women said.




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I think it a good thing to stay away and not give them a target. sm
It is so obvious they are brainwashed and cannot respond to logic in a sensible fashion, so it is no use discussing or arguing with them. You cannot argue logically with someone who has no logic.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
Until the poltiical mood changes....
they would have to have separate buses...now that the joke is over, I think that is an excellent idea. I have heard McCain say he was going to appoint Democrats and Independents to his cabinet. I hope he does. That will certainly be a start. And I do wish that more politicians viewed their jobs like McCain and Palin...they are public servants. They are there to look out for us. Not the DNC, not the RNC. All of us. I like that idea. But that is just me... :)
Something to lighten up the mood

After the election it was voted that our town did not want to pay taxes to increase the police force or fire department (we have a population of about 25,000 here).  Right now there are maybe 3 to 5 officers or so.  Last night as we were watching TV we could hear a police siren and my husband said.  "Didn't you hear, because nobody wants to pay any more taxes for police they have now designated one house that every half hour or so they play the recording of a police siren going by so that way people will think we actually have police here".  


We had a good laugh with that one.


Well I'm not in the mood to argue but

all I know (so far) is half the cost to help homeowners and create jobs like the dems package... In fact, I believe it almost had the same things EXCEPT the crappy projects that do nothing to create a healthy economy and put people back to work, keep them in their home, allow permanent tax cuts to you and me, not just businesses, but you and me. He wanted 5% off the top for us.


We have the highest business tax in the world and that is one of the reasons  companies moved their businesses out of here. McCain did want to cut the business tax when he was running, but people didn't see how that would help. It would have kept more businesses from moving out and hopefully, get some businesses to come back. Opps, sorry. That last statement about the businesses moving back is wrong. They use slave labor to get their products out and wouldn't want to come back and pay Americans a decent wage to produce their products because they want to keep the profits for themselves.


You have your opinion and I have mine. I think McC's package would have been better.


I still don't want to spend $88 million to move the one branch of government into another building. I still don't want to spend millions on youth summer jobs (up to the age of 24 BTW). I dont' want to spend millions on renovating the government buildings.  Even though the dems are thinking more on the lines of energy efficiency for these buildings (which is a good idea), THESE ITEMS DO NOT BELONG IN A STIMULUS PACKAGE TO HELP US OR THE ECONOMY. They only help certain areas of the country, not the whole country.


 


This is great. Thanks for lightening the mood, even
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Good Read...

Why Martin Luther King was Republican


by  Frances Rice
08/16/2006


It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.


Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. AL Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon's 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation's fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy," which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.


Ms. Rice is chairman of the National Black Republican Association (NBRA) and may be contacted at www.NBRA.info.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500


Thanks Lurker...very good read..Add this too...sm

**And for those who don't know already, Ann Coulter is a Conservative apologist who has just released a new book, and while promoting her future Best Seller, she made some off-the-wall comments just so she could get some publicity for said book. She claimed that the windows of 9/11 are milking their husbands deaths, and called them broads who are enjoying their million dollar status. To me, she isn't an alien, just another person trying to XXXX somebody else over in order to make some chump change. I don't believe for a second she means a word of what she came out with, but is just trying to drum up interest in her new product, which is for sale. And according to Amazon.com's book rankings, she's accomplishing her goal. Shrewd businesswomen? Yes indeed. On her way to becoming Satan, halfway there!**


Good read, article. sm

My cousin, who lives in Alaska, told me about this web site.  It has some interesting articles.  I enjoyed this one - here is the link/url.


http://alaskadispatch.com/tundra-talk/1-talk-of-the-tundra/121-the-world-according-to-sarah.html


A good funny read.........sm
Funny, and yet oh so true, in many respects.....please read....his column is good every week, and pokes fun where it's deserved, whilst intertwining salient facts therein....


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434143,00.html
What I read about Emanuel is not good at all.

What happened to Col. Powell maybe being Chief of Staff for Obama?  Anyway, I am not too thrilled about Emanuel being chief of staff.  From what I have been reading, he is the son of a Zionist, Israeli terrorist.  Also might be related to 911.


http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-and-rahm-emanuel.html


Many, many more articles like this about Emanuel. 


 


 


I havn't read any slams, just good solid arguments.
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Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
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can stay.
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What happens if you stay
informed? That means what to you or me? It does you what good? It helps you out how? It makes a difference in how Washington is run? I think your statement sounds stup..
Don't look, better yet, stay on your own board.
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stay on your board
They just cant stay on their own board cause it has no information other than liberal bashing and then they are patting each other on the back, LOL.  They should change the name of their board to **I drank Bush's Kool Aid** board.
Stay on your board please.
I put this site up for the liberals, yet you people just cannot stay off this board.  Hannity has a board where everyone will agree with you, why not go there?
So much for who can't stay away from our board.

Today on the conservative board, there were 10 new posts, and not ONE LIBERAL posted any of them.


Today on the liberal board, there were 20 new conservative posts.


20 to 0.


Obviously they find their own board boring since they posted twice as many posts here as they did on their own board.  But then we already knew that, didn't we?


no way, jose....needs to stay til it's over...

They have to stay objective. It's their job.
One of our family members is a well-known political analyst on t.v. At family functions, we all hear the full-on opinions. Believe me, reporters are human, and they certainly do have their opinions! But their job isn't to discuss their own point of view. It is amazing, though, isn't it? I don't think I could control myself if I had to interview some of these people!
No, let's don't. Let's stay on task.
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Again. Could you PLEASE stay on task.
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Thanks, but I will stay without my legs
without my boots and with my copy of the Notebook. Don't let the door bump you in the butt.
Sorry. Just trying to stay on task.
Thread started out about hate speech, then turned toward lawsuit. Silly me. Do you always change the subject when you start to look stupid? The only plants at the SP rallies spring up from the seeds of bigotry and racism that come spilling out of her mouth every time she opens it...in the form of a crop of hateful ignorance. Must make you feel right proud.
Let's stay focused here.............sm
this is not about whether Obama has ever appointed a SC justice. This is about Obaman's PROVEN stance on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. This is about the FACT that he squelched the bill in Illinois when he, as head of the Health and Human Services Committee, had every opportunity to push this bill through. This is about the FACT that he contradicted himself when he said he "would have voted for it" in Washington (had he been a Senator at the time). This is about the FACT that he is talking out of both sides of his face and lying to the American sheeple who he believes are too dumb and awestruck by his very presence to grow a brain and go out and look for this information on their own.

Obama cannot be trusted.
You as well need to stay on task...
Fact. He has said he is going to give a tax break to 95% of the American people. 40% of the American people don't even pay federal taxes. How can you give a tax break to people who don't even pay taxes? In the form of a check. How ELSE is he going to do that? THAT is classic redistribution of wealth Marxist style. Either he is lying about the 95%, or he is going to cut a lot of checks. YOU tell ME how he is going to do it.

As far as Palin...you really need to focus here. Yes, she did a windfall profits task. And yes, she distributed it to the Alaskan people. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, rich and poor alike, every single citizen of Alaska. That is NOT redistribution of wealth. See the difference? And it is not taking from the tax coffers that everyone in Alaska paid into...which is what Obama is going to do. He is going to tax small businesses and the so-called rich (the threshold for which gets smaller every day) and redistribute that to 95% of people...40% of whom don't even pay federal income tax.

Marxist re-distribution of wealth.

No soup for you either, but plenty of ice cream.
yes..but the revenue does not stay here. nm
still no message
Timid or not they'd do well to stay far away from me.

As if Arkansas doesn't have enough of the creatures already, they released a bunch of rattlesnakes and copperheads  in Devil's Den State Park a few years back and that's not too far for them to slither up this way.  Those varmits are most definitely not timid and I fear to go outside at night without a flashlight lest I encounter one of them..


Not really. She's no dummy and if she wants to stay
especially should she end up in a senior-level position, she will really not have a whole lot of wiggle room since all eyes will be turned on her because of all the concerns which are being voiced on this forum and in the media. She did not exactly "take charge" in the senate as a junior member and as SOS, she will be in a position to take her cues from many others besides her own DH.
You really can't stay on topic, can you?
It might help you focus a bit better.
Theories have to stay out of school?
I certainly agree religion needs to stay out of our schools except when clearly labeled for everyone to know, such as a comparative religion class or even the history of a particular religion. But no theories in school? Think about what you're saying. Or did you have a particular theory in mind, say the theory of evolution? Why is that such a hard one for some people? There's more scientific evidence to support evolution than there ever was to support the idea that this rabbi a couple thousand years ago was the physical son of God. And anyway, evolution doesn't disprove creation. You can believe there was an intelligent force behind it all and still believe that evolution was the way it was carried out. Seems like some people want to be able to name that intelligent force, and say what it wants and thinks and force those beliefs on others, though.
The NG should stay shared with the state and fed...sm
In time of emergency. What is wrong with communication? In time of emergency like Katrina, Bush and Blanco's office should have been on the phone at first levee break and making *quick* and *effective* decisions. They should have stayed in contact.

If you give the fed complete authority in times of emergency, an emergency can be interpeted a lot of different ways by different people. I keep saying, checks and balances, that's why you need state and fed collaboration.
I wish the government would stay out of my uterus
The posts below are getting crazy.  Abortion should be a private issue and a woman's right.  Using pro-life or pro-choice and a political platform infuriates me.
I hope you don't stay lost

for an unncessarily lengthy period of time.


 


So basically the poorer I stay
the more I get?

Talk about your backwards logic!


yeah, stay ignorant,
and watch just CNBC. OR, educate yourself and try Fox news for some balance and honesty. and calling people hicks? Nope, i'm country at heart (and geographically now), but i'm born and raised a city girl; still not falling for the Obama routine.
Exactly. And the government can stay out of my pocketbook....
while they are at it. Don't tax me to fund abortion and don't tax me to redistribute my wealth.
I think you're the one who needs to stay on task

you even asked it.  Go back up a few posts and you'll see where I said:


"I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election.  It shouldn't count.  Where's the accountability?"


Anyone would refer to grandma, pap, brother, sis, aunt, uncle, etc. 


Geez, you people make it so easy for me to feel smart. 


And arent the mormons. They should stay
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what are you talking?? You go off the subject, stay with US..NM
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Eeew! I'd rather go on welfare and stay

I hope you guys stay ok

I don't know if welfare varies from state-to-state, but you don't see people living the high life on welfare in my state. They have to work a 40 hr week. They have to get some type of training (even with children, they get subsidized childcare). They are not allowed to live year after year on welfare - they get cut off for a few months and then they have to reapply. For the scum who don't want to work - they just make meth. It's easier than applying for welfare and they make a whole lot more money.


If someone is in a hard spot, i.e., husband leaves wife with children and she needs help, I don't begrudge that. Years ago, it was just like you say, but not anymore. My husband did just that. Took off out west and I had 2 kids and a part-time job decorating donuts and no car. I had to go on welfare because my son is handicapped and needed consistent medical care. I remember sitting whole days in the doctor's office because my kids weren't seen until every last insured patient was seen. It was horrible. Sick kids with fevers crying all day in a doc's office. I wanted to kill myself. I hated the situation I was in and was determined to get out of it.


Fortunately, I was eligible for grants. My son's school for the handicapped got my son SSI (otherwise we couldn't afford to live on welfare alone). I went to school and after graduation got a full-time job. I ended up raising my kids in my OWN home. It wasn't a palace, but it was home. I paid $26,000 for that house - payments were $250 a month including taxes and insurance. I couldn't rent for that. I got the house loan because of my credit, not because it was a handout.


I don't know a single solitary soul who gets welfare (truth). I did years ago and it was just like you said - they'd collect their welfare and work under the table with no worries, and yes, I resented that. It's not so easy anymore - the bums just sell drugs to make a living now. I guess that's "work" and if there wasn't a demand, they'd be out of business......sigh


The more we want things to change, the more they stay the same. nm
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Government should stay out of those decisions
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no I'm not a lover but do like to stay informed.
I can only take about 5 minutes of bull*(#% a day though.
those people need to stay where they belong
who are they to want a better life
I think an extended stay in paradise...(sm)
is the least we can do after holding them (regardless that they are innocent) for 7 years.  What would you want if someone picked you up and held you prisoner for 7 years for no good reason...not to mention any torture they may have endured...
They already ARE allowed to stay silent. That's the irony of this.
It's just one crazy loon who wants to foist HIS version of the world on the rest of us, which is no better than ramming religion down a person's throat.  What about those who wish to say the pledge, now they can't.  It was better the way it was... Say it if you want, don't say it if you don't want to.  That way everybody has the freedom to choose.
The first one says, do not bash their posts. It does not say stay off the board.
The second one I did not recall seeing. As I said, go to the conservative board and see what you see.  The same thing as here.  Stop whining about it and grow up.
And that 's not the total number either because it keeps rising. They just can't stay away.
I think it's hysterical.