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It's not about race?

Posted By: Ashamed black MT on 2009-01-13
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It's not about what kind of job this guy can do, or how well he can lead the country.  No it most certainly has not been!  And I'm sick and tired of everyone making it out otherwise.  It's always been about race and that's all its ever been about!  I'm hopeful that anyone will be able to pull us out of this depression no matter what their color is or whether it be a man or woman.  It's not going to be an easy job.  But all through the campaign and to this day we kept hearing about how it's not about race.  That was the line that this man from Illinois was trying to sell to us.  He'd walk around and tell us he understands what we're going through, it's not about race.  Then he'd talk about his grandmother being afraid of black me (uh, hello..I thought you said it wasn't about race).  When he was elected my brother and his friends went out and celebrated in the streets because now we got a brother in there.  He said to me, "you should be happy because we finally got a brother in the white house who is one of us".  I asked him what does he mean "one of us", that's he's black like us so I should rejoicing and saying hallelulah thank you Jesus.


But this latest display of what he has planned for the innaugeration has got to be the most downright utter distasteful display of "flaunting" his race.  Now at the inaugeration it's going to be a huge "Gone With the Winds" type of theme with ladies in their plantation dresses.  I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about him dressing the blacks up like the what our ancestors were dressed when they were slaves.  He has taken racism to a whole new level.  This is disgusting and this is not what the men who founded this country had in mind.  It took us years and years to get through the slavery issues and now here comes Mr. Obama bringing all that sh!t back up again and dividing people.  I've got some friends who are white and nowhere in their history do they have any relatives who owned slaves, but now Mr. Obama is going to make all of them feel as though they are slave owners.  I don't know what it is but why does America seem to get stuck and not be able to move forward.  Instead of looking into the future he's dragging back up the plantation and slavery issues and making a big deal of them.  I am just sick to death of coming on and reading how it's not about race when that's all that it is about.  I voted for Mr. Obama because I like him.  I didn't think he was qualified and he doesn't have the experience, but I'm willing to give a new unknown person a chance.  Now he pulls this racial crap and it makes me ashamed to be black and more ashamed that I was conned into his lies and voted for him. (even the NAACP is criticizing this).  It's not about race??????  Tell me another one.


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this is not about race
of hearing people say it is... i have a feeling that is why mccain has not been as aggressive in this campaign, concerned someone is going to cry "RACISM"...... and should his gloves come off in this next debate, i bet that will be the cry...
Right but again, that has nothing to do with race either nm
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It's not about race?

It's not about what kind of job this guy can do, or how well he can lead the country.  No it most certainly has not been!  And I'm sick and tired of everyone making it out otherwise.  It's always been about race and that's all its ever been about!  I'm hopeful that anyone will be able to pull us out of this depression no matter what their color is or whether it be a man or woman.  It's not going to be an easy job.  But all through the campaign and to this day we kept hearing about how it's not about race.  That was the line that this man from Illinois was trying to sell to us.  He'd walk around and tell us he understands what we're going through, it's not about race.  Then he'd talk about his grandmother being afraid of black me (uh, hello..I thought you said it wasn't about race).  When he was elected my brother and his friends went out and celebrated in the streets because now we got a brother in there.  He said to me, "you should be happy because we finally got a brother in the white house who is one of us".  I asked him what does he mean "one of us", that's he's black like us so I should rejoicing and saying hallelulah thank you Jesus.


But this latest display of what he has planned for the innaugeration has got to be the most downright utter distasteful display of "flaunting" his race.  Now at the inaugeration it's going to be a huge "Gone With the Winds" type of theme with ladies in their plantation dresses.  I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about him dressing the blacks up like the what our ancestors were dressed when they were slaves.  He has taken racism to a whole new level.  This is disgusting and this is not what the men who founded this country had in mind.  It took us years and years to get through the slavery issues and now here comes Mr. Obama bringing all that sh!t back up again and dividing people.  I've got some friends who are white and nowhere in their history do they have any relatives who owned slaves, but now Mr. Obama is going to make all of them feel as though they are slave owners.  I don't know what it is but why does America seem to get stuck and not be able to move forward.  Instead of looking into the future he's dragging back up the plantation and slavery issues and making a big deal of them.  I am just sick to death of coming on and reading how it's not about race when that's all that it is about.  I voted for Mr. Obama because I like him.  I didn't think he was qualified and he doesn't have the experience, but I'm willing to give a new unknown person a chance.  Now he pulls this racial crap and it makes me ashamed to be black and more ashamed that I was conned into his lies and voted for him. (even the NAACP is criticizing this).  It's not about race??????  Tell me another one.


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It's not about race?

It's not about what kind of job this guy can do, or how well he can lead the country.  No it most certainly has not been!  And I'm sick and tired of everyone making it out otherwise.  It's always been about race and that's all its ever been about!  I'm hopeful that anyone will be able to pull us out of this depression no matter what their color is or whether it be a man or woman.  It's not going to be an easy job.  But all through the campaign and to this day we kept hearing about how it's not about race.  That was the line that this man from Illinois was trying to sell to us.  He'd walk around and tell us he understands what we're going through, it's not about race.  Then he'd talk about his grandmother being afraid of black me (uh, hello..I thought you said it wasn't about race).  When he was elected my brother and his friends went out and celebrated in the streets because now we got a brother in there.  He said to me, "you should be happy because we finally got a brother in the white house who is one of us".  I asked him what does he mean "one of us", that's he's black like us so I should rejoicing and saying hallelulah thank you Jesus.


But this latest display of what he has planned for the innaugeration has got to be the most downright utter distasteful display of "flaunting" his race.  Now at the inaugeration it's going to be a huge "Gone With the Winds" type of theme with ladies in their plantation dresses.  I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about him dressing the blacks up like the what our ancestors were dressed when they were slaves.  He has taken racism to a whole new level.  This is disgusting and this is not what the men who founded this country had in mind.  It took us years and years to get through the slavery issues and now here comes Mr. Obama bringing all that sh!t back up again and dividing people.  I've got some friends who are white and nowhere in their history do they have any relatives who owned slaves, but now Mr. Obama is going to make all of them feel as though they are slave owners.  I don't know what it is but why does America seem to get stuck and not be able to move forward.  Instead of looking into the future he's dragging back up the plantation and slavery issues and making a big deal of them.  I am just sick to death of coming on and reading how it's not about race when that's all that it is about.  I voted for Mr. Obama because I like him.  I didn't think he was qualified and he doesn't have the experience, but I'm willing to give a new unknown person a chance.  Now he pulls this racial crap and it makes me ashamed to be black and more ashamed that I was conned into his lies and voted for him. (even the NAACP is criticizing this).  It's not about race??????  Tell me another one.


http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9655036&nav=menu33_2


 


It's not about race?

It's not about what kind of job this guy can do, or how well he can lead the country.  No it most certainly has not been!  And I'm sick and tired of everyone making it out otherwise.  It's always been about race and that's all its ever been about!  I'm hopeful that anyone will be able to pull us out of this depression no matter what their color is or whether it be a man or woman.  It's not going to be an easy job.  But all through the campaign and to this day we kept hearing about how it's not about race.  That was the line that this man from Illinois was trying to sell to us.  He'd walk around and tell us he understands what we're going through, it's not about race.  Then he'd talk about his grandmother being afraid of black me (uh, hello..I thought you said it wasn't about race).  When he was elected my brother and his friends went out and celebrated in the streets because now we got a brother in there.  He said to me, "you should be happy because we finally got a brother in the white house who is one of us".  I asked him what does he mean "one of us", that's he's black like us so I should rejoicing and saying hallelulah thank you Jesus.


But this latest display of what he has planned for the innaugeration has got to be the most downright utter distasteful display of "flaunting" his race.  Now at the inaugeration it's going to be a huge "Gone With the Winds" type of theme with ladies in their plantation dresses.  I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about him dressing the blacks up like the what our ancestors were dressed when they were slaves.  He has taken racism to a whole new level.  This is disgusting and this is not what the men who founded this country had in mind.  It took us years and years to get through the slavery issues and now here comes Mr. Obama bringing all that sh!t back up again and dividing people.  I've got some friends who are white and nowhere in their history do they have any relatives who owned slaves, but now Mr. Obama is going to make all of them feel as though they are slave owners.  I don't know what it is but why does America seem to get stuck and not be able to move forward.  Instead of looking into the future he's dragging back up the plantation and slavery issues and making a big deal of them.  I am just sick to death of coming on and reading how it's not about race when that's all that it is about.  I voted for Mr. Obama because I like him.  I didn't think he was qualified and he doesn't have the experience, but I'm willing to give a new unknown person a chance.  Now he pulls this racial crap and it makes me ashamed to be black and more ashamed that I was conned into his lies and voted for him. (even the NAACP is criticizing this).  It's not about race??????  Tell me another one.


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of COURSE IT WAS ABOUT RACE!
I do admit not for EVERYONE... i mean some people really believed the HOPE and CHANGE and "YES WE CAN"
Then there are those... that simply voted for him for the color of his skin.

See example below...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGSOjx5Mh7w
Why not...why does it have to be about race?
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Why is it about race? (sm)

Because of the following, which has been well known for hundreds of years now.  This form of racism was established in the American culture by white people, some of whom now deny its existence.


Subconscious mental connection between blacks, apes may reinforce subtle discrimination


March 5th, 2008 in Medicine & Health / Psychology



Many U.S. citizens may not hold openly racist beliefs today, but they still may subconsciously link African Americans with apes because people still use words and metaphors that subtly reinforce a less-than-human bias and endorse violence against Blacks, according to a new study.


"Historical racist images and books dehumanizing African Americans in the 19th and early 20th century relied heavily on the Negro-ape metaphor, which was used to stereotype Blacks as lazy, dim and aggressive," said lead author Phillip Atiba Goff, assistant professor of psychology at Penn State. "Such dehumanization and animal imagery have been used for centuries to justify violence against many oppressed groups.


"The images have disappeared from popular culture and from most people's memory," he added. "However, after completing six studies, we found strong evidence that Black-ape linkages still influence people subconsciously and impact their judgment particularly in the case of African American suspects and defendants."


The study's findings are published in the paper, "Not Yet Human: Implicit Knowledge, Historical Dehumanization and Contemporary Consequences," in a recent issue (February) of Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, which is published by the American Psychological Association.


Goff and fellow researchers Jennifer Eberhardt, associate professor of psychology at Stanford University; Matthew C. Jackson and Melissa J. Williams, graduate students at Penn State and Berkeley, respectively, conducted six studies of college-age students. They found that participants – even those with no stated prejudices or knowledge of the historical images – were quicker to associate Blacks with apes than they were to associate Whites with apes.


Goff and fellow researchers Jennifer Eberhardt, associate professor of psychology at Stanford University, Matthew C. Jackson and Melissa J. Williams, graduate students at Penn State and Berkeley, respectively, conducted six studies of White college-age students. They found that participants – even those with no stated prejudices or knowledge of the historical images -- were quicker to associate Blacks with apes than they were to associate Whites with apes.


In the first three studies, researchers subliminally flashed Black or White male faces on a screen for a fraction of a second to "prime" the participants, who could identify blurry ape drawings much faster after they were primed with Black faces than with White faces.


http://www.physorg.com/news123944737.html


 


So it is all about race, huh?
so pathetic.
It's always going to be about race
There is no changing that. 
Ah the race card!
always played when a leftist is against the wall when it comes to facts. France has changed diametrically in the 200+ years since the revolutionary war, but you probably have your own leftist rewritten history book on that too, so why bother...
Since when is French a race? sm
Why do you call everyone who disagrees a leftist or liberal loon?
Presidential race

Please do not tell any of the following their lives are not DIRECTLY affected by the President:


1.  The teachers and students who spend most of their time preparing for NCLB  standardized testing while falling behind in basic life skills. This affects EVERY student and EVERY teacher in EVERY public school in the United States.


2.  The soldiers who have been to Iraq,as well as their survivors. Their mission was to destroy nonexistent WMDs.


3.  The millions of people who cannot afford health insurance or oil to heat their homes. Of course our president does believe  "profits" are a good thing; unfortunately they are for corporate America.


I am not advising who to vote for; obviously it is a personal choice. But anyone who says no one person can make a difference, good or bad, is naive.


 


 


Is it any different than the race card?
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Not to start a race war

People can raise this question over and over again but what I would like to know is this:  Has anyone ever raised the same questions regarding white candidates in this and/or past elections and why people voted for them? Of course not...I wouldn't care if Obama were multicolored - people are going to vote for whomever they choose and I for one am weary of the constant references to race...


Race does not matter to me....

I have always voted for dems regardless of race.  Had Hiliary made it through the primary, I would vote for her, even though I personally believe that our country is not ready a female to hold that position.  I speak from a female point of view and we are too often guided by our feelings and make rash decisions, but later end up regretting our action because we did not think it through.  I would love to have Bill back as our president, life was good and he worked for the people. 


It shouldn't be about race
But for a lot of people it is. I won't vote for him, but race has nothing to do with it. Interestingly, my 79-year-old aunt thinks we should vote FOR him because of race. She says "Oh, we owe it to them."

Interesting too, I think Obama's commercials have been playing the race card recently - the white one. All of his recent commercials in my area have shown him with his mom and grandparents in cozy home-spun settings.


Exactly, and the other race card is
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Well, like it or not......race is an issue with some
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I still think that all this race baiting, etc
by the McCain campaign has not helped matters.  But as they say, Pride goeth before the fall.
It has been about race from the beginning.........sm
One only has to read either of Obama's books to know that. His books say essentially what your brother is saying in (no offense at all to your brother or to you) more eloquent terms (instead of saying "a brother in the White House").

I am very much against the use of the Trail Maids in the parade, not because of the color of their skin, but because of what they represent....a time in our country's history that was wrong and shameful in terms of what one race did to another. I personally don't think it is a period of time to be celebrated.

What truly amazes me is that so many have tried to blame the racism on the white people who were against Obama instead of recognizing the "reverse racism" that is at the core of this campaign. I didn't vote for him, but I didn't vote for him because I disagreed with his political platform. Race was never an issue for me. I'd have voted for a black man, Oriental man, Hispanic man, white man or purple man if I believed that he was the best choice for leading this nation and if his platform was one I agreed with.

Please don't ever be ashamed of who you are or the color of your skin. You are an amazing work of God and should always remember that you are. :o)
I'm just really over the race crap
They talk about how everything is so unequal when, at least in the south, that is complete crap. My husband can't get a job because he's NOT a minority. I can't get scholarsips because i'm NOT a minority. The government doesn't provide help to poor WHITE people because they are NOT a minority.

This man would have never been elected if he was NOT black. Excuse me, HALF BLACK.


And those who deny it is about race...
are just big fat liars, right? I thought so. Thank god, the majority can see beyond the pumpkin-headed belief systems shared by Hitler, KKK and white supremacists.
Right gt race doesn't matter

I actually agree with that post.


Now can you quit calling us racists, because from what I can tell from posts nobody here is...



If you are referring to Bush, he is not in this race
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your attempts at race baiting

are disgusting and all too obvious to do any damage.  Study the issues we are facing, quit trying to stir up hate.


 


Well just for the record, my vote has nothing to do with race. sm
In fact I started out pro-Obama. And I am still not terribly fond of Palin. I would hate to think in this day and age race would have anything to do with who wins this election. I am sure it will influence a certain number of votes in each direction, because there are racists of every race, but I do not believe it strongly influence who wins.
Not start a race war, but how many would not vote sm

for Barack simply because he is black, even if he truly was the better candidate?  I heard a discussion that contained many variables such as I'm afraid to support him openly due to racial attacks.  One lady said she had had threats made on her life because she was supporting Barack and she was a white lady.  Another lady stated that there are closet supporters, people who claim to support one candidate in the open, but secretly vote for the total opposite of the one they show support for.  Me personally, it does not matter to me their race, I have not benefited in the past 8 years from anything the Republicans have done, so I hold true to being a real Democrat.  I have heard so many people state they changed their position or status to Republican simpley because Barack was running, but had it been Hiliary they definitely would have voted Democrat. 


This is just a question of mine out of curiosity and I really want to know how many will answer the question honestly.  By the way, I am black before the question arises. 


Race does play a part -
I have a friend that just told me today that she is torn about who to vote for even though she is a democrat and has voted strictly democrat her entire life, but this time she is "just not sure". I asked her if it was because he was black and she said no, it is because he is Muslim - I explained that no he was not and she said she was still going to have to be careful and think things through this time about whether to vote for him or not.

race does play a part
And I agree with you..however, I am so SICK and TIRED of people saying that "Obama is a MUSLIM"...he has stated time and time again that he is NOT, yet there are those who have set in their minds that he IS...sad and yes, underlying racist mentality in this country that many people try to state does not exist...sad
Race is completely a non-issue. nm
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race is a nonissue. But IMO he is not the best candidate.
He is impressive, but the radical associations he has, belonging to the "black theology" or so-called "social gospel" church (until it bothered his campaign), his ideas on changing healthcare, his thoughts on the life issues, etc etc DO make up my decision to go with McCain/Palin. On the church thing, IMO there is only one gospel, and its not black and its not social, its the death/burial/resurection of Christ. I imagine color will bother some, but probably very few. for the demographics record, i am white, 55 yo, living in middle USA in a town of less than 150. As far as people answering honestly, there is no reason not to on line. I think you'll get very honest answers.
I wish both candidates were black! Then no one would be able to say it is about race. It is not abo
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This is not about race whatsoever. You are falling
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Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.

Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
Race riots if he doesn't win and if he does,
all those votes from ACORN that went after the black vote.
Emily Ayn...you seem obsessed with race.
What's up with that? Are you a card-carrying racist?
as i said i expect it about politics NOT about race
I slam anyone back that slams me. I learned that in a little place called high school to ALWAYS stick up for yourself

people are mean for no reason and i dont put up with it for a second anymore.

do you see me STARTING it? NEVER and i guarantee it. go ahead and look.

but I will be the first to apologize if i truly offended someone. there are certain things that are not to be joked about or said and that is one of them.

Too bad nobody else can do the same but hmmm i guess anyone with an independent mind can see where we all stand then right
O scares the heck out of me. Not because of race
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So now your an expert on what race everyone on this board is?????
Yeah sista right on. Glad for ya.

Who said anything about kissing my you know what!!!

You are very rude and disgusting.
It's always the race card with any black....
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You hide BEHIND race...that is your obsession with O
And, yes, admit it, you didn't have a clue about MLK, as many that repeat his words don't know, or they would rethink the Obama thing....

You do NOT know what he stood for, you just repeat stuff he has said and that is all. Do you know how he felt about dems? No, you don't.... how he detested them? no, you don't, do your homework and stop trying to twist things around...

For you and especially the loud mouth ranting earlier, race is THE issue...so why is it you don't mind spewing it out but you just can't take the truth thrown back at ya?! I suspect you should get over it as you put it...


More might have forgiven her had she not played the race card.

Which she is constantly doing.  She tried to make this all about race.  Shameful and I am sure a lot of blacks would agree. I heard Larry Elder talking about it and he agreed.  I wonder what Bill Cosby would say.  She needs to stop doing that.


Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.?

Buchanan to Obama


By Patrick J. Buchanan


Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.?


Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.


This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:


First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a
community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.


Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.


Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ླྀs on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community
into the mainstream.


Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.


Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.


We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??


Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks.


Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.?


Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and inca rceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?


Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?


As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?


Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?


We have all heard adnauseam from the Rev. AL about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But abo UT the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.


Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.


Reality - most of the people voted for him only because of his race
Even had to clear my ears a few times as I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Most of the people who voted for Obama voted for him only because his race. There are few out there who educated themselves and truly believed in his ideas, hopes and dreams. The rest...when they were told McCain's policies and asked if that's why they were voting for Obama they said yes. Others were asked the question, "So if Obama wins President you wouldn't mind having Sarah Palin as the VP" they said "no not at all I think she'd make a fine VP". Most think like they do and I heard many people reveal that they are voting for him simply because he is black and it's time we need a black president.
Ummm, don't play the race card here
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You can't compare race vs. a deviant lifestyle.
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People like you like to pull a race card all the
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"

This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.

Puh-THETIC.
Pure Race Definition: One Without Neglect & Abuse
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why does it matter if he is "half white"? that is the race thing - nm
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