Late term...(sm)
Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-01-31
In Reply to: Whether or not this is religiously based or not - sm
If the infant is able to survive outside the womb, then it would fall on the physician to do whatever possible to save that life (even if that includes refusing to do an abortion), just like any other. I don't think you'll find too many docs who will actually do abortions that late because it's increasingly dangerous for the mother. I think most clinics only go up to about 15 or 16 weeks anyway. I do think that if you are going to have an abortion it should be done in a timely manner anyway for the mother's health. I also believe that if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy, a late-term abortion may be necessary. And then there's the money. I wonder how many people have to opt for late-term abortions because it takes them that long to get the money for the abortion. Yet another reason to add in abortion to family planning services.
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Oldtimer, it is used in late-term abortions. To get rid of babies.
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Too little, too late ?????
I was clarifying my position. Are you not the one who **doesn't need a mother spouting moral holier-than-thou sermons** and the one who is **sick of it.** Telling me too little to late, you can't backpeddle now, the damage is done!!! Are you serious??? What damage, to whom, what backpeddling??. If you are reading my post as an apology you are mistaken. It was just clarification to Observer's post where she said she did not understand why I thought the president should not be there...and I answered her that was not what I meant.
I know it's too late now
But does anyone else look at these two candidates for president and think, This is it? The best the United States has to offer?
For that matter, I thought the same thing before the primaries. I don't know if any of these yahoos has what it takes.
It's sad, really.
I think it is too late
to save him. His choice of her shows impulsivity and pandering. People are aware of these characteristics now. Sarah will contribute to his defeat at the hands of the voters, but she is not responsible for it.
Also, too little, too late . . .
there is absolutely no sincerity in McCain's efforts to now try to undo the damage he has done. He is so insincere that his own supporters don't believe him now. He is the one that encouraged this mob fervor in the first place and now he had literally created monstors!
Sorry so late.
No they don't supply BK, at least not at this time.
It's a little late in the game, isn't it?
It's late...never mind nm
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At this point, I think it is too late.
They WILL steal the election, but I am voting for McCain anyway. Absolutely disgraceful what is going on.
This was in the late 70s early 80s
As far as I know, none of my friends slept with these students. One of the guys used to come up to our hometown and spend the night and never ever acted like he was interested in "conquering" my friend or I. We were all just friends. maybe the times were different?
Keep your hate - you are much too late
http://www.bornagainamerican.org/
Am I too late to vote?? AGAINST!!!
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This is a little late, but here is my opinion
Gore is a sore loser and should keep his mouth shut. He is still bitter over losing the election and every time he opens his mouth it shows. He was worthless as VP and even more worthless now. His whole life is based on lies he creates thinking everyone is so stupid they will believe him. Nothing he has to say is of any significance and if he crawled back into the hole he crawled out of the world would be a better place.
Gore has no right to criticize anything anyone has to say.
He talks about policies being un-American? What I consider un-American is putting out the lies about global warming, while he rides around with his enterage (sp?) of limos, SUVs, and planes. And is trying to bank off of this farce he is creating, and just so happens the companies that you buy (or whatever it is you do) with the carbon credits...he gains financially from.
I'm certainly no Cheney fan, but Gore critizing him???? I wish Mr. Hore would just go away.
Probably a little too late........ but have a great vac, ! nm
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But that's the whole McCain strategy of late! sm
Keep repeating the same lies and half-truths over and over in spite of the facts, and some people will believe it. Oh, and make sure to keep people really, really afraid. That always works well for Republicans too.
Hey, it worked for George W. Bush, and here we are, 8 years later, with Karl Rove and friends at it again now, this time for McCain. "Country First"? More like "party first" and "winning first" for McCain.
A day late and a dollar short......
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too late, Bush has already taken care of that
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I think it is way too late now to make a change...sm
I think that McCain was not allowed to pick who he wanted to be his running mate and pressured by the extreme right wing of the republican party to choose her, most likely men thinking that her choice would win over democrat and independent women. Big mistake. I think if he was still the old John McCain, he probably could have gotten Colin Powell as his running mate. I hope Obama appoints him to secretary of defense or secretary of state in his administration.
It's getting late and the lack of information
way more time than I have at the moment to address. Obama spent much time in Kenya in an OFFICIAL capacity....sent there while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I will be expanding on this tomorrow and look forward to the slam dunk that a few tiny facts will exact on this trash you are trying to peddle.
My late husband is buried
next to a plot where unborn fetuses (is that the plural????) are born. Very sad. Those parents keep flowers on the little graves. Obviously those were unborn children who were wanted by their parents.
Last I heard late last night was
Supposedly car companies are just "burning" up money each month. We need more economic and fuel efficient cars NOW, but car companies are saying it will take 2 years. Car companies as of right now do not have enough money for the end of this quarter and money will be dried up. No purchasing cars through lenders and so on. Pelosi and her crew do not know what do. If car companies are bailed out now, they will probably have to be bailed out again and again for the next 2 years. If Pelosi allows to keep bailing out the car companies, next will be the airlines and so on. Pelosi might decide to just let car companies bankrupt. That will be hundreds of thousands of jobs gone along with lawyers, human resources, paper product companies, and everything related to car companies. Sounds like we are heading for The Great Depression. This was all on CNMBC news late last night. I AM NOT FOR DOOM AND GLOOM, but I do look at facts and not through rose colored glasses. It is utter chaos. I personally hope car companies do get bailed out. I have never owned a foreign made car. But if we bail them out, that means airlines next and so on. That will come from us or added onto the deficit.
Kendra, sorry. It's late for me and I was being a little sarcastic.
I apologize. I know what you meant. Didn't mean it, really. Forgive me?
Late Night Politics
I don't really think that Leno is conservative. He's a good friend of the Arnold the Governator, but I think that it is more on a personal level than political. Keep in mind, also, that these guys have teams of writers so while they approve the joke, they don't necessarily represent solely their opinion, and anybody who thinks that Leno's humor is conservative, clearly missed the last 8 years of Bush jokes and the Dan Quayle jokes that still pop up.
I had not watched Letterman when he was in the time slot following Carson, but when he first went to CBS, I used to. However, his 'humor' got to be where it just seemed very mean-spirited, and while it had a certain shock value to it and was maybe funny the first time in an adolescent kind of way, it wasn't long before I couldn't stomach it anymore and made the switch to Leno, where I had stayed. Conan has his moments and is probably the least political of the 3, but while not mean-spirited, his humor does sometimes come across as very juvenile, pull-my-finger type stuff (although he does some skits about his Taurus that had me rolling on the floor).
Political humor at the expense of the kids has been around for a while, but fortunately is rarely brought out. If I recall correctly, Chelsea Clinton took some pretty big hits, and there may have even been a few Amy Carter jokes (but that's a little further back than I can trust my memory). If I also recall correctly, Saturday Night Live was where a lot of the early political child barbs came from. I think Bristol Palin has put herself out there in the public eye so I'm not opposed to her getting a few shots, but Letterman's were in exceedingly poor taste. Then again, Letterman has been endorsed by Howard Stern, so I guess the crudeness comes as no surprise.
Excellent post!!!! - sorry I'm a little late saying so.
Just read it. Thanks for the reply.
You're a little late to the party...(sm)
I do believe the dicussion is already over.
These late night political events
are just killing me. I keep staying up to watch and then I stay up later to hear the media discuss everything. Why must this stuff be so addicting? I know I should just go to bed because it will be repeated 1,000 times the next day......but I can't help myself. I'm going to go hook up my coffee IV to keep me awake this morning.
Getting late. Change name line to read
see message in above post.
It's gettin' kinda late, but you got me LMAO.
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I post late at night, and count the NEXT day as #1)
Only one problem. This happened in late December
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European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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You're a little late worrying about the reporters...
They were found guilty on June 8.
"US President Barack Obama has said he is "deeply concerned" by North Korea's reported sentencing of two US journalists to 12 years' hard labour.
The US was working through all channels to secure their release, a spokesman for Mr Obama said.
The journalists, Euna Lee and Laura Ling, were found guilty of "hostile acts" and illegal entry into North Korea, state media reported."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8089290.stm
I don't like to use that term.
to be referred to as that either, but then again if she's referring to herself as a pitbull, then maybe she does. 
First or second term
I wonder when they will make Obama's birthday a national holiday.
What term would you prefer? I am sure you have
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still doubtful he will win a second term.
That he'll only have 1 term....
If 2 terms equals 8 minutes, 1 term equals 4.
We can't wait until the end of his term as you put it
People are underwater every day and more following. Trying to pass a budget before it's necessary is just another way of spending money and has nothing to do to help the economy, especially with the thousands of earmarks in it. The congress and senate are still on the so-called honeymoon and O thinks everything will go smooth for the first 100 days.
Well, it's not. It's not better than when Bush was office. The house and senate are still fighting and nothing O says helps. Of course, NP and her threats don't help. Bipartisanship my foot! NP wants to take over and she's doing a very good job of being "acting president."
The term 'fundamentalist'
has acquired a negative interpretation. But all it really means is adherence to the fundamentals of any given religion. Militance and intolerance are implied in the term Islamism. These are not just ''fundamentalist Muslims' but a whole step beyond that.
He did not start that term FYI!
He was quoting what others had nicknamed the man already. You just can't let crazy people be crazy people, can you? Instead you have to pick some conservative leaning person to blame everything on. The man who shot Tiller is to blame for this...no one else.
Or how about this....if Tiller had never aborted so many fetuses late term for questionable reasons, other than the mother's health, he never would have been under investigation and he would never have been publically exposed. So whose fault is this really? I personally feel that if Tiller had stayed within the guidelines on this, he never would have made nation wide news in the first place.
However, regardless of his actions and whether or not I find them to be disgusting, he still should not have been gunned down. The man who killed him is a crazy wacko. No one told him to do it. He took it upon himself to do it. He is to blame for his actions....not Bill O'Reilly. So how about you stop the spin, stop the blame game, and actually make people take responsibility for their own actions.
That is a big problem with our country today. Too many people pointing the finger at others and not enough people admitting their own faults and taking blame for what they have done. Much easier to point the finger and blame someone else.
The term *Christian Right* was given our by liberals
so, giving us the defination of Christian right is condeming us for the title your group gave us.
In 35 years, I have never known of an ectopic going to term. nm
You are still misusing the term Neocon. sm
Not that you will stop, but it is irritating.
That was in his Illinois senate term...
this one was in the US Senate. Yeah, he shows up for the important votes like against the Infant Born Alive Act...twice...and now we find out FOR the bridge to nowhere and AGAINST Katrina victims. Still makes me question his judgments and his priorities. Sorry, that is the way I see it.
Christian was actually a derogatory term
used to describe the followers of Christ. Christian means "little Christ" because TRUE Christians are supposed to strive to be like Jesus.
We are to beware of false prophets and those who go around claiming to be Christians. You will know them by the fruit that they bear. Jesus told the parable of the wheat and the tares. It is hard to discern them by looking at them, but in the end the tares will be cast into the fire. The tares are those who say "I am a Christian" but then go about killing, plundering, etc. You are not a true Christian if you do these things. The wheat are the Christians who strive to be like Christ. Although they fail everyday, they get up and try again. When they sin they ask forgiveness and try their darnest not to do it again. When we mess up we feel conviction and that leads us to ask for forgiveness. No true Christian will go out and sin without guilt or remorse. That is like slapping God in the face.
I am a Southern Baptist. Anything taught at our church comes straight from the Bible. We look at all verses IN CONTEXT. My pastor won't even paraphrase! We believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. We strive to do everything that is commanded of us by Christ. No, we do not follow OT rules, because when Christ came he brought a new law. When Peter was in Goppa he was told by God that all animals were fit for eating, therefore we are not required to not eat certain foods any longer. We are not required to offer sacrifice anymore since Christ was the ultimate sacrifice.
One of the biggest commandments Jesus gave us was The Great Commission - to go and tell the world of what He did and the saving grace of the cross. We are to care for "widows and orphans" and to help those in need. We are to love our neighbor, but we are to use the Word to rebuke and teach GENTLY. If another Christian is out of line, we are to remind them of what Christ told us. We are not to judge the sinner, as we are also sinners. But we are to hate the sin, and we are to worn others of the sins they commit. Why? Because that sin SEPARATES them from God and in the end will cause them to spend eternity in he11.
I believe on Judgment Day there will be many people who say "I did not know!" and Christ will say "you heard so many times and refused to believe!"
It's amazing at the ease of which people can be saved yet they refuse to accept it. Jesus did all the work for us. All that is required is to accept that He did that and give Him the glory for saving you.
If you are a parent with older children, I'm sure you remember a time when your child was a teen and the closeness you had when they were younger seemed to disappear. Hopefully as they got older you again became close. That is what God wants with us. He wants a close, personal relationship with each one of us. But because of our sin that cannot be achieved without accepting Christ. Christ is the tie between us and God.
it is a term that Michael Savage came up with. But then he may not be the only one. sm
Michael Savage uses the term in talking about people who follow in a group blindly, just like sheep in a flock. He uses it a lot when referring to people who don't think for themselves and just follow the crowd along repeating what the crowd wants them to. And he uses it as a bipartisan term.
SOS, justice lifetime term. nm
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I'd say at least wait until his term BEGINS. nm
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No, necessary evil is just a term used to excuse
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Does it really matter in the long term.......... sm
who is blamed if this goes into effect? It will still negatively impact healthcare for all Americans, but more especially those who are elderly and have multiple comorbid conditions or anyone whom the government deems "terminal." Again, we have an instance of the government taking over an area in which they have no expertise. What's next?
Ever heard of the term "full of it"
You most certainly are forcing your prayers and viewpoints on us. When my son comes home upset because the "church lady" came to his school and got all of his classmates rounded up to pray and be "saved" and then go out to the church van for cookies and juice, but only after they've "given their life to christ, blah, blah, blah". YES YOU ARE CRAMMING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINTS DOWN OUR THROATS. When he said we don't believe in that and all his classmates and friends made fun of him and laughed and the "church lady" not saying anything like "that's not nice to do" or "that's not what Jesus would do". Making fun of children so that they will pray and get juice and cookies just like their friends did, and now showing up at their school to pray regularly. When I called the office of the Principal and asked what was going on he said, "oh that's Mrs. --- from our local church, she comes to pray with the kids who aren't getting it at home. Then told me if he doesn't want to join in he can sit in the classroom while the others are out getting refreshments. When the teachers in the lunch room have all her students stand in a circle holding hands saying a prayer before they eat. When your church lady roams the stores and corners us in the produce section and says to us "do I know you, you both look familiar", and we say no, and she says "have you given your life to christ" and we don't answer and she grabs our hands and says let me pray with you, and then holds on while she prays out loud, and us not wanting to be rude just stand there and look around at the other customers watching us. Then we continue on shopping and we see her heading down the bread isle and she walks up to another couple and says to them "do I know you, you both look familiar to me", and they guy looks like he wants to escape and the girl doesn't want to be rude and there goes the church lady grabbing their hands and praying. Yeah, I would say you are forcing your religion and prayers on us and our children.
But you know what. Gay people are not forcing you to have a gay relationship. So what if a homosexual teacher is at the school teaching about the different lifestyles. If you don't agree with it, then talk to your kids and tell them what your viewpoints and feelings are. It's no different than having a black teacher talking about Martin Luther King, or a Hispanic teacher talking about some way of life in Mexico. I'd rather have a homosexual teacher anyday teaching my kids and have them come home and ask questions with me and my husband rather than some church goers coming in to force my children into praying, and telling them they are going to go to he!! if they don't change their ways and join their "club" - a perverted practice in itself.
So what if our kids have a day of silence. It is an act to protest the name-calling, bullying and harrassment of lesbian and gay students and their supporters. If your against that I guess you are all for harrassing and calling gays and lesbians names (which reading your posts below I understand you think that is an okay behavior). For Martin Luther King you get a whole day off. For Jesus Christ you get a whole week off. So what if there is a day of silence.
There is no double standard. The word God is used in our schools and all over the place. This lie that you can't even mutter the word God in school without getting expelled is complete rubbish. It's just not true. I go to the schools and see the kids praying together on the bleachers, before sports games, in the hallways, ALL the time. Kids in the hallways talking about what they did in church, etc, etc. I can't even go to my quilt guild without the clique of "church goers" talking about church and sunday school and what they learned. Then in the next breath they make snippy and nasty remarks about other people they don't like. One girl left the meeting crying (they said something about they don't think they would like her husband very much to which she replied well good thing your not married to him then because I love him). Then she picked up her stuff and left. Then they looked at each other and said what's her problem. I looked at them and said "Do they teach you in your church and sunday school how to be rude and hurt other's feelings like you just did?" I walked out and haven't been back.
You know, a gay teacher is not going to turn your child gay, but the church people coming to our schools to covert and pray with the students, and getting caught in every store I got to telling me if I don't go to their church I'm a sinner and I'm on the path to he!! is totally different. And it's always the haters of gays people that always use that as an excuse "oh you can't utter the word god or you'll be hauled off to prison". Sheesh! I'd say nice try but its just complete and utter lies.
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