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Let me get this straight... you and DH sm

Posted By: Christian without the hate on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: My reason for not voting for Obama... - voteinde

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So let me get this straight

If Bush changes his mind it's flip-flopping but if a Democrat and/or liberal does it he/she's just exercising his right to change their mind.


I just love pointing out blatant double standards which their seems to be a lot of in the liberal ideology.


What you fail to realize is that what is going on Washington right now is politics as usual on both sides.  Both sides are playing the game to some extent.  The liberals are just realllly bad at it.


So, let me get this straight...
The poster of sickened and fed up can post here and criticize and this is okay, but Think Liberal cannot defend the original post, and if he/she does, he/she is not compassionate? Sounds pretty one-sided to me.
let me see if I have this straight

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....


 


* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic,
different."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,  a quintessential American story.


 



* If your name is Barrack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.


 


* Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.


 


* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first
black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive
that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with more
than 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human
Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of  13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the
Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs
committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl,  4 years on the city council
and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as
the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to
become the country's second highest ranking executive.


 


* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2
beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disabled wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.


 



* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other
option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen
daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.


 



* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,
then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude," with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once
 was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the
USA, your family is extremely admirable.


 



OK, got it! It is sooo much clearer now


So let me get this straight - sm
you get mad at people if they won't vote for O because he's black but your against someone because of their age? But to throw another wrench in you are for Biden when he's only a few years younger than McCain? The term I heard tonight that could correctly go into this post is "nincompoop".
I will be straight up with you on this one.

I'm a McCain supporter in this election and I will be voting for him.  Having said that, I don't think either candidates are perfect and I'm not sure McCain's economics plans will actually benefit this country right away, but I do know that Obama's economic plan will make our situation worse.  That is the main reason I'm not voting for him.  Taxing companies more will lose jobs...not create them.  Raising taxes during an economic crisis leads to worse economic crisis....just look at what Hoover did.  He raised taxes during a recession and it started the Great Depression.  FDR started several goverment assisted programs to help and they actually extended the duration of the great depression.  Obama wants to raise taxes and wants to institute new government assisted programs.


As for the allegations of him being born outside of the country....who knows.  He claims he was born in Hawaii and if that is the case, show your birth certificate and be done with it.  If you have nothing to hide, show it.  Ya know.  I feel that there have been many things that Obama has not been outright and honest about.  If any other politician had the associations and the history as Obama has had.....their political career would be in the gutter.  I do not understand this love affair the media has with Obama.


I do not trust Obama and let me reiterate that this is not a race thing.  I don't think John McCain is a saint and I do know that all politicians lie to get elected but I just feel like John McCain has served this country all of his life and I would feel more comfortable with him in the oval office than a man we hardly know, who won't answer questions honestly about himself or his associations, and has very little experience. 


So, let me get this straight.
Slander, infer, distort, misrepresent, fabricate, slur, smear, disparage, belittle, defame, deceive, falsify, slam, libel, vilify and lie about Obama night and day, ad nauseum, 24/7, for months on end but when his supporters (whose interests they feel he represents) TAKE THIS PERSONALLY, and respond in kind, this is mean? Dial back the dialog on the candidate candidate and you will be pleasantly surprised to see what you get from the other side.
Okay, so let me get this straight..

into poverty, but you don't want the money it takes to care for these children to come out of your pocket????  Am I on the mark? 


I guess this is another so-called way to sling mud at Obama.  The rich republicans can't have it both ways.  You either care for the unborn (welfare for their mothers) or you allow the mother the choice...  Which is it?


Not all abortions are a form of birth control, ya' know.  I knew a very religious lady that aborted her child due to hydrocephalus.  The child would been born deformed/a vegetable.  This would have put this lady at high risk.  She prayed about it and soon after aborted the child.  She had to live with that. 


Not all situations are the same.  Furthermore, you can't force your child to have a baby or to have an abortion.  Either way, it's her body.


So let me get this straight....

If the cartoon doesn't offend me, I am racist. If I didn't vote for Obama, I am racist. If I am not up in arms about something as silly as a political cartoon, I am racist. I have never dated or been married to a black man, does that make me racist? There are no black people who live in my community (it is very small), does that make us all racists? I do have several black friends, do I get a free pass for that? I go to movies that feature black actors, is that okay? I like to listen to the Motown channel on Sirius radio, is that okay? Oh, I like Whoopi Goldberg, Halle Berry, and I even think Michelle Obama is fairly attractive, do I get a free pass for that too? Oh, but I don't like Oprah, so that makes me a racist, right?


This argument is old as the hills and will never go away. To each his own, don't obsess about it.


Actually, MANY do think FOX gives is straight.
nm
Let me get this straight....(sm)

You think I'm a hypocrit because you knew a flamboyant homosexual when you were growing up?  That almost made sense....


Tell me, if you meet a homosexual and you don't approve of his/her mannerisms, does that give you the right to attack him?  What happens if someone doesn't approve of your mannerisms?


Let's get this straight,

you choose to start a grammar war, hurl personal insults, get thoroughly defeated by practically everyone on this board, then go crying to the moderator?  We have a couple of American sayings (maybe Midwestern, you would be the expert on that, I suppose):


Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.


If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.


FYI, if you are transcribing for American accounts, you really should be familiar with the vernacular.  Doctors often use slang in direct quotes and typing ''criminal'' for criminetly would make you look quite silly.


 


Not at all. Just trying to set the record straight. sm
As to what the board monitor REALLY said, since the left sometimes has comprehension problems and all.  
Get facts straight
Where would the word satanist even come up in your head?  I mean, that is truly scarey.  I dont even know what that is.  It is not part of my vocabulary or thought proceses, yet you posting in a liberal board throw that my way?  Obviously, these things are on your mind..to me that is downright troubling.  Get facts straight?  That is what we liberals and peace lovers have been trying to tell you warmonger right wingers all along..get your facts straight..the war is based on lies, Bush is a liar..
At least he knows he needs to get his facts straight. sm

That's one step in the right direction. I hope he doesn't mean CREATE some facts.  


If this is true though, it is cheap for the US to be involved with this company.  Same thing though with the United Arab Emirites and their child camel jockeys (see link).  


 


Let's get it straight. I will not tolerate

continued slamming of the President and this country.  Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so.  My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever.  I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums.  ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too.  Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it.  I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too.  So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting.  We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting.  You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.


Get your facts straight.
Now that is not exactly the truth is it?  He refused to be coerced and he paid dearly for it.  I was unaware the Viggo Mortensen was a hollywood burnout.  Does he know that? 
Straight and to the point.
nm
Get your facts straight, please....there was no lie....sm
She said,

"I put it on ebay."


....which she did.


I....put.....it....on....ebay.



She didn't say it sold there, now did she?


It didn't sell there, I believe it was sold to a private party instead.



Lemme get this straight...

Those who cannot afford any insurance at all will get "Cadillac" plans (that's what fed employees receive) underwritten by the rest of us?!  Meanwhile we continue to pay out the nose for our crappy policies, which will be less than the "Cadillac" plans, while we are paying for the ne'er do wells' "Cadillac" coverage?


That's not the kind of "change" most of us want, although I can certainly see why the recipients of this "handout" would think it's a great deal!!!


 


Seems to me he isn't thinking straight
in a lot of areas.  "Not thinking straight" is a qualification for the highest office in the land?  I should  hope not.
Thank you. That's straight talk.

At least somebody is honest. If you Google something like that, you'd get all kinds of info that conflicts with the others. Nice of you to do this.


Oh please - get your facts straight
It's suppose to snow here this week but it's too early in the season - wait it's Bush's fault.

My toilet is backed up - wait it's Bush's fault.

The grocery store didn't have the kind of bread I wanted - wait it's Bush's fault.

Get the facts first before blaming Bush. The company is making changes to prepare for the future, not because of anything that has happened in the past. And last I knew the future means an Obama presidency.
lets get it straight abc
i said "Your can save us" what does that mean?  That is what I said.  I also said i think you are stalking me or something like that because you bashed me over and over and called me a stalker.  I never said anything hateful in that post and never said your spelling sucks.  Also, I am done arguing with you and all the people on this board like you.  You know the ones that are just looking for a fight.  The ones that LOVE to stir the pot and point out everyone's faults but their own.  The ones that scream hate and prejudice and all that crap when someone voices an opinion that is slightly different than their own.  Have fun tearing each other apart.  I will post my beliefs and opinions and ignore the people that get on simply to stir up anger.
so lemme get this straight
you know absolutely, because you can see into someone else's soul, that no one has inner peace but you. Lemme guess: You know this because (all together now) -- it says so in the bible.

It's this kind of sentiment that actually does invite ridicule. That you think even though there are philosophies, doctrines & religions far older & more complex, and at least as beautiful (at least, in the form I imagine Jesus would actually want to lend his name to), yours is the only one that can provide inner peace? Wow. Generations of yogis, rebbes, & every other religious contemplative, scholar, thinker, believer & philosopher have entirely missed the boat, I guess.

Pshaw. The godhead "speaks" all languages, & spiritual belief (not to be confused with religion) is the language of the godhead. Christianity is only one of these. All are capable of enlightenment, truth, & inner peace. It's an ability to see the bigger picture & recognize that the godhead does not only speak "Christian" that separates those with the potential for enlightenment, including among Christians, from the narrow, elitist, cartoon version of a religion that the man, Jesus, would be truly dismayed over.
Let's try to get one thing straight.....
Abortion is not a "religious" issue. There are many who are not Christian who still believe in the value of life, any life...and they say that if you are against war because it kills people you should be against abortion because it kills people. That has nothing to do with religion because those people are not religious. You can have any reason to oppose abortion...and when those who condone abortion took to the political trail to get it legalized, that opened the door. They can vote to have it legalized, we as Christians or those who believe in the value of life as a moral issue (not because they are religious) can vote (or speak) against it. When NBC refused to air the commercial, they took a stand. Anyone has the right to criticize or support the stand...and if we are truly Americans and truly believe in the constitution, then it is our right to do so and a political board is EXACTLY the place to do it. Christian Americans should have no more, and no LESS, rights than any other American. The constitution says we have the right to religion and the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. Certainly says nothing about keeping religion out of politics. Doesn't even say anything about separation of church and state. Those words do not appear in the Constitution. All it says is that there will be no state-sponsored religion, and there is none, otherwise we would have a church of the united states and it would be the ONLY church.

So, if we ARE all Americans, and if we do BELIEVE in the constitution, we would allow everyone their 3 minutes on the soapbox and not try to shut them up because we don't like what they are saying. If that was the case, I would liked for Obama to have shut up months ago because I don't believe much of what he says. HOWEVER, I do believe in his right to say it. Just as I believe in a Christian's right to oppose abortion on faith basis, or anyone else's right to oppose it on a strictly moral basis.

I don't think you should back up for anyone on what you believe...whether you be Christian or atheist. Let every dog have his day, and if it offends you, don't read it. Just like the commercial...could have gone and got a drink or went to the bathroom...no one is reaching out from the screen and "force-feeding" you. I understand that sort of thing makes some people uneasy and I understand why. But you CAN shut off the TV and walk away. What you can't shut off is that uneasy feeling, right? :)
Please try to keep the facts straight...(sm)

Obama said he would withdraw troops from IRAQ and add troops to AFGHANISTAN.  Those would be 2 different wars.  We aren't at war with "the middle east."


GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Obama said he would not punish his daughters if they made a mistake with "a baby".  He did not say a pregnancy, or a fetus.  I heard him say that. 


Also he voted to allow babies that survived an abortion to be left to die, not given any assistance after they were born alive. 


These are the facts.


Straight people being
Called gay generally do not have a problem with that when they are comfortable in their sexuality and in their own skin. Rolls right off them. Newsflash! Gays ARE accepted in mainstream society. Religious zealots and wingnuts are not mainstream society. As for confrontational, exactly what have YOU been doing on here ALL day long? Keep it up... I have all night.
Yes, but lets just keep the facts straight. NM
...
Thanks for keeping the facts straight - NM
//
Glad you put that straight, Reader.
Not that it really needed to be put straight in any but the most challenged minds, but hey - was very interesting!
Setting the record straight.
It is not spinning someone else's thoughts to ask them a question about those thoughts. I asked you how you felt about Mrs. King. Spinning is saying something like, you HATE Mrs. King. Courteously, I did not do that. You did however do that to me by assuming I hate Bush. By the way, what posts were those in which you expressed your admiration for Mrs. King? You referred to them but I don't see them here. Maybe you were singing her praises on the Con board? Might be why I missed them, as I don't go there.

Talk radio all abuzz about the impropriety? LOL!! We know what type that is. The story hardly got a slight clip on any of the network news stations - that right there ought to tell you that they were very squeamish about how bad it made Bush look. Had it been anything like a true classless act by Democrats, Rove would have made sure it was network news 24/7 for two weeks.

And what is this about implying that I said Repubs were to blame for ruining Wellstone's funeral? I said no such thing. What Repubs did (in their perpetual terror of ordinary people banding together to express sentiments that uplift the soul and give them hope) was to try to spin the whole thing as a bash fest against themselves and the deceased - much as your favorite radio host is doing now with Mrs. King's memorial events. THAT was the connection and deliberately trying to misunderstand it is lame.

Don't really give a hoot if you admire people of both parties - I think I was pretty clear that I rather admire GBI myself. Anybody taking in the whole scene and using good judgment is going to find traits they admire across the board. Which Dem did you say you really admire? I missed that. Let me guess - Zell Miller? Hahah!

And for the record, I don't hate Bush. I just believe he's an enabler who has no respect either for the working people of this nation or for our founding priciples and therefore has no business being in the White House.
Stephen or not, his facts were straight.sm
Free speech is very American, threatening to see people punished for free speech is un-American.
I prefer to think of them as straight thinkers.
Because, unlike you and others on this board, they understand and realise the dangers we face and have chosen to not make it political.  Theirs is not a blind Bush loyalty, much as yours is a blind Bush hatred.  That virulent malignant hatred has put all of this fine country, not my own, but fine nonetheless, at great risk. Somehow, despite contrary facts that are palpably clear in the historic record, American and European leaders have managed to convince themselves and the world that the most terrible wars of the 20th century occurred because nations didn’t do enough talking to resolve their differences when, in fact, they occurred because shortsighted, peace-minded leaders (think Jimmy Carter) allowed good intentions and wishful thinking to take the place of an accurate assessment of the identity and intentions of their adversaries.  Unless the West adapts more quickly than do canny Islamic terrorists in this constantly evolving war, cease your internecine fighting and stop forgetting what we’ve learned about our enemies—there will be disasters to come far worse than Sept. 11.  Sometimes I believe you almost wish for it.  I might also add that your incessant q/Bush lied/q mantra is no defense for your actions.  But we do know, especially after events in Lebanon and the foiled British bomb plot, that we’re in a war in which failure is not an option and for which repeating ‘Bush lied’ is not a strategy. Americans will not put in power a party that accepts the proposition that global warming is a greater threat than terrorism, that thinks Wal-Mart is a plague on the poor and that wants to repeal the job-creating, economy-boosting and deficit-cutting Bush tax cuts. They will not put in power a party that thinks death is a taxable event and that success should be punished. They will not pass the reins to a party that denies us access to energy reserves offshore and in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge and which thinks energy independence means building windmills and hugging caribou. If you want your party to win, stop the constant litany of complaints, with which this board is riddled, and do something constructive.  A litany of complaints is not a strategy.
Bremer's bio, just to set the record straight....
Born in Hartford, Connecticut, Bremer was educated at New Canaan Country School and Phillips Academy. He graduated from Yale University in 1963, and went on to earn an MBA from Harvard University in 1966. He later continued his education at the Institut d'Etudes Politiques DE Paris, where he earned a Certificate of Political Studies (CEP).

That same year he joined the Foreign Service, which sent him first to Kabul, Afghanistan as a general officer. He was assigned to Blantyre, Malawi, as economic and commercial officer from 1968 to 1971.

During the 1970s, Bremer held various domestic posts with the State Department, including posts as an assistant to Henry Kissinger from 1972–76.[2] He was Deputy Chief of Mission in Oslo from 1976–79, returning to the US to take a post of Deputy Executive Secretary of the Department of State, where he remained from 1979–81. In 1981 he was promoted to Executive Secretary and Special Assistant to Alexander Haig.

Ronald Reagan appointed Bremer as Ambassador to the Netherlands in 1983 and Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism in 1986.[3] Bremer retired from the Foreign Service in 1989 and became managing director at Kissinger and Associates, a worldwide consulting firm founded by Henry Kissinger. A Career Member of the Senior Foreign Service, Class of Career Minister, Bremer received the State Department Superior Honor Award, two Presidential Meritorious Service Awards, and the Distinguished Honor Award from the Secretary of State. Before rejoining government in 2003, he was Chairman and CEO of Marsh Crisis Consulting, a risk and insurance services firm which is a subsidiary of Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc., a trustee on the Economic Club of New York,[4] and a board member of Air Products and Chemicals, Inc., Akzo Nobel NV, the Harvard Business School Club of New York[5] and The Netherlands-America Foundation. He served on the International Advisory Boards of Komatsu Corporation and Chugai Pharmaceuticals.

Bremer was appointed Chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism by House Speaker Dennis Hastert in 1999. He also served on the National Academy of Science Commission examining the role of Science and Technology in countering terrorism. Bremer and his wife were the founders of the Lincoln/Douglass Scholarship Foundation, a Washington-based not for profit organization that provides high school scholarships to inner city youths.

In late 2001, along with former Attorney General Edwin Meese, Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the White House's Department of Homeland Security. For two decades Bremer has been a regular at Congressional hearings and is recognized as an expert on terrorism and internal security. Some of Bremer's published work includes "Warfare & Defence Military Science Alliance Response to Nuclear Weapons Proliferation", "The Alliance Response to Nuclear Weapons Proliferation: Deterrence, Defense, and Cooperative Options", and "Countering the Changing Threat of International Terrorism: Report from the National Commission on Terrorism", a New York Times article "What I Really Said About Iraq", and his first book, "My Year In Iraq: The Struggle to Build a Future of Hope".


Bremer is awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, December 14, 2004Bremer was awarded on December 14, 2004 the Presidential Medal of Freedom,[6] America's highest civil award for "especially meritorious contributions to the security or national interests of the United States, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or private endeavors." "He was also presented with the Department of Defense award for Distinguished Public Service and the Nixon Library[7] honored him with the "Victory of Freedom Award" for "demonstrating leadership and working towards peace and freedom."[8]

He does have extensive experience. So that part of the movie is an untruth. This is the point that Bremer makes about dissolution of the Iraqi Army...

On May 23, 2003 Bremer issued Order Number 2,[28] in effect dissolving the entire former Iraqi army and putting 400,000 former Iraqi soldiers out of work.[29]

The move was widely criticized for creating a large pool of armed & disgruntled youths for the insurgency to draw recruits from. Former soldiers took to the streets in mass protests to demand back pay. Many of them threatened violence if their demands were not met.[30][31]

Bremer called this argument of disbanding the Iraqi army a cat-like issue with nine lives. In his Fox news interview on July 31, 2006 he repeated again what he said before "...And no matter how many times I answer with the facts, it still comes back. But let's look at the facts. Let's take a minute. There was no Iraqi army to disband. The Iraqi army basically self-demobilized, as the Pentagon said. There wasn't a single unit standing anywhere in the country. So the question was should we recall the army. Now, let's think about what the army...".[32]

It was widely asserted within the White House and the CPA that the order to disband the Iraqi Army had little to no practical effect since it had "self-demobilized" in the face of the oncoming invasion force. This however was revealed to be false insofar as the CIA had conducted psychological operations against the Iraqi's which included dropping leaflets over the Army's positions prior to the invasion. The leaflets ordered the Iraqi Army to abandon their positions, return to their homes, and await further instructions. In the defense of those involved in the decision making process, it was apparently unknown to them at the time that the CIA had done this.[citation needed]

Regardless of what messages the CIA may or may not have tried on the old Iraqi army, the truth is by the time "Baghdad fell on April 9, 2003" the previous Army had demobilized, or as Bremer puts it "had simply dissolved...." The issue of disbanding the old Iraqi Army found itself, once again, the center of media attention with two articles explaining why Bremer did not make the decision on his own.

The first press release by the New York Times included a letter written by Bremer to President George W. Bush dated May 20, 2003 describing to the President the progress made so far since Bremer's arrival in Baghdad, including one sentence that reads "I will parallel this step with an even more robust measure dissolving Saddam's military and intelligence structures to emphasize that we mean business." Readers of the New York Times article will assume Bremer interpreted the President's response to the progress report as a "go".

The second press release dated September 6, 2007 was submitted by Bremer as an Op Ed piece for the New York Times. Titled "How I Didn't Dismantle Iraq's Army", Bremer discusses why the decision was not made on his own, and how the decision was reviewed by "top civilian and military members of the American government"; which included General John Abizaid who briefed officials in Washington "'there are no organized Iraqi military units left'".

Bremer’s article goes into further about how the Coalition Provisional Authority did consider two alternatives - to recall the old army or to rebuild a new army with "both vetted members of the old army and new recruits." According to Bremer, General Abizaid liked the second alternative.

Bremer also details the situation he and the major decision makers faced; especially when the large Shiite majority in the new Army could have had problems with the thought of having a former Sunni officer issuing orders.

Furthermore, Bremer reveals again how he received a memo from Donald Rumsfeld on May 8, 2003 that said "the coaltion 'will actively oppose Saddam hussein's old enforcers - the Baath Party, Fedayeen Saddam, etc...'we will make clear that the coalition will eliminate the remnants of Saddam's regime'". According to Bremer, the memo was also sent to both the national security adviser and the secretary of state at the time.[33]

There are two sides to every story. In all the people listed for the movie who were asked to contribute but did not wish to, I did not see Bremer among them. I wonder why.

Again, I agree mistakes were made. I also believe that this documentary had an agenda, that it was very narrow and targeted one particular part of the Iraq situation, and as usual...there is a lot of the story left untold.

I am looking into the other principles who had input into the documentary...and what I am finding is not at all surprising.

I think we can stop beating the dead horse, tho...annother issue we will never agree on, that being you take it on face value and I don't. :-)

Have a good day!
He's almost like Hillary - can't keep his story straight.
It's kind of hard keeping up with lies. You have to remember the ones you told.
Straight out of moose country.
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Bering Straight Talk
Bering Straight Talk



Published: September 13, 2008


Maureen Dowd


I’ve been in Alaska only a week, but I’m already feeling ever so much smarter about Russia.


I can’t quite see it from my hotel window, but, hey, I know it’s out there somewhere, beyond all the stuffed bears and cruise ships and glaciers and oil derricks.


The proximity of the country from which William Seward bartered to buy Alaska for $7 million — Seward’s icebox — is so illuminating that I suddenly realize that we would commit a grave error by overestimating Russia’s economic strength. After all, it represents only 2.8 percent of the world’s G.D.P., even though its gross domestic product has ballooned from $200 billion in 1999 to $1.7 trillion this year.


But I overanalyze.


An Arctic blast of action has swept into the 2008 race, making thinking passé. We don’t really need to hurt our brains studying the world; we just need the world to know we’re capable of bringing a world of hurt to the world if the world continues to be hell-bent on misbehaving.


Two weeks after being thrown onto a national ticket, and moments after being speed-briefed by McCain foreign-policy advisers, our new Napoleon in bunny boots (not the Pamela Anderson kind, but the knock-offs of the U.S. Army Extreme Cold Weather Vapor Barrier Boots) is ready to face down the Russkies and start a land war over Georgia, and, holy cow, what business is it of ours if Israel attacks Iran?


The trigger-happy John McCain has indeed found a soul mate. Trigger squared. In Fairbanks on Thursday, at a deployment ceremony for her son who is going to Iraq, Governor Palin followed the lead of McCain and W. in fusing Osama bin Laden’s diabolical work on 9/11 and the mission in Iraq. She told the departing troops, “You’ll be there to defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.”


Asked by Charlie Gibson what insight into Russian actions her Alaskan proximity gave her, Sarah blithely replied: “They’re our next-door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”


Being a next-door neighbor is not quite enough, though. If Sarah had been reading about the world she feels so confident about leading rather than just parroting by rote what Randy Scheunemann and the neocons around McCain drilled into her last week — Drill, baby, drill! — she might have realized that as heinous as Russia’s behavior toward Georgia was, it was not completely unprovoked. The State Department has let it be known that it warned McCain’s friend, Misha, the hotheaded president of Georgia, not to send troops in to crush the rebellion in two breakaway states.


And she might not have had to clench her jaw and play for time when Gibson raised the Bush doctrine, the wacko preemption philosophy that so utterly changed the world.


The really scary part of the Palin interview was how much she seemed like W. in 2000, and not just the way she pronounced nu-cue-lar. She had the same flimsy but tenacious adeptness at saying nothing, the same generalities and platitudes, the same restrained resentment at being pressed to be specific, as though specific is the province of silly eggheads, not people who clear brush at the ranch or shoot moose on the tundra.


Just as W. once could not name the General-General running Pakistan, so Palin took a position on Pakistan that McCain had derided as naïve when Obama took it.


“We must not, Charlie, blink, Charlie, because, Charlie, as I’ve said, Charlie, before, John McCain has said, Charlie, that — and remember here, Charlie, we’re talking about John McCain, Charlie, who, Charlie, is John McCain and I won’t be blinking, Charlie.”


She tried to finesse her previous church comments about Iraq, asking worshipers to pray “that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.” Earnestly repeating after her tutors, she said she had meant to echo Abraham Lincoln, that in war we must pray that we are on God’s side rather than that he is on ours. But her original comments sounded more W. than Abe — taking your policy and ideology and giving it the hallowed mantle of a mission from God.


Sarah has single-handedly ushered out the “Sex and the City” era, and made the sexy new model for America a retro one — the glamorous Pioneer Woman, packing a gun, a baby and a Bible.


Her explosion onto the scene made Obama seem even more like a windy, wispy egghead. Like W., Sarah has the power of positive unthinking. But now we may want to think about where ignorance and pride and no self-doubt has gotten us. Being quick on the trigger might be good in moose hunting, but in dealing with Putin, a little knowledge might come in handy.


...except for all those straight-laced, stick-up-their
@rses republican biddies. They think anyone who isn't just like them is a witch. Sometimes it feels like Salem all over again.
I did...so angry I can't type straight!...nm
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I'm so scared I can't even type straight
I meant attic, lol!
Yep, that is how it works. And that is why I am voting a straight....
Republican ticket for the first time in my life. That is all the power I personally have to try to stop it. And I am darned sure going to. :)
Kind of like straight marriages
affect gay people's paychecks? Who'da thought?
Straight from the horse's mouth... sm

Did you not watch the video????  That is EXACTLY what Obama said.  So now you are saying that Obama himself is not credible???? 


What I found even MORE ridiculous is what he said before having said "I am the change." 


OK, never been there,but get it straight before you denegrate, these tax attorneys will not get you
a lower tax bracket or give you extra credits, but they will negotiate with the IRS terms on which you can repay what you owe, also, the IRS can penalize people EXTRAVAGANT amounts at times when there is a shortfall or mistake in payment, making it harder to pay them off, and these attorneys can sometimes get the IRS to back down on fees so that the tax payer can pay a more reasonble amount. I haven't been through this and I am all square for EVERYONE paying their correct, fair share, but I do have friends that are attorneys, and this is only what I understand from them. Now those CEO FAT CATS who have all the tax loop holes and pay practically nothing while inveting offshore, THOSE guys need to rot in H-E-double toothpicks. IMO
Uh, that's McCain/Palin - really do need to get that one straight
There is no such a candidate named McPalin. If so can you tell me what his first name is. Euphemism smeuphemism...there is no such person. Tired of hearing it. Do you hear us saying Obiden, or Obamaden? I would follow your advice if I were you - do try to read a little more.
Uh, that's McCain/Palin - really do need to get that one straight
There is no such a candidate named McPalin. If so can you tell me what his first name is. Euphemism smeuphemism...there is no such person. Tired of hearing it. Do you hear us saying Obiden, or Obamaden?
Let me get this straight. You're saying "no job = no buy"? But....
I didn't think you needed any money to buy stuff like houses and things like that. I thought the only question was "Do you have enough ink in your pen to sign this pack of lies - er, I mean, these loan documents?"
I'm a straight person who would rather be called gay
And I'll the gay people as neighbors any day over your particular brand of 'morality', as well.
Yup - running it straight into the ground.
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People are born gay or straight
I would love to know why straight people spew hatred at being gay. I know why, you believe we are perverts yet you do not consider that our lives parallel with yours. I NEVER think what you do in your bedroom so why should it bother you to the point that you hate gays because of what they do in their bedroom? Perhaps if you stop worrying about the sex life of a gay person, you might see that they are just like you in every way.