More clueless brain death from fringe.
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Oops, meant "not clueless." Perhaps I'm not clueless but need to brush up on
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New Movie Out.. Not just Clueless but Totally Clueless
starring gt as the whining liberal elitist with the chihuahua.
the death of Wall Street is the death of the USA...you really want that????? nm
The fringe............ sm
seems pretty large on the internet. "Mainstream media" won't cover this because they have been told not to. Hawaiian authorities are proud of the fact that Barack is the first POTUS supposedly from their state, so of course they are not going to rock the boat. Californian electorates are parties to the suits against Obama. Judges in the lower courts have either been bought or are afraid of what ruling in favor of the plantiffs might do in terms of civil unrest in this country. Like I said, this is bigger than you can even imagine in your wildest dreams and probably bigger than even the mountains of stuff I have seen unearthed.
Lunatic fringe. sm
The Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968 was disrupted by Democrats. So what? Events of newsworthy importance have always drawn the lunatic fringe. How do you know the people chanting were Republicans? Did they wear a sign? Did they say they were Republicans? Did they not pass the sniff test to prove they were leftists? What? Do you NOT THINK there are Democrats who don't approve of Cindy Sheehan? My, what a narrow world you live in.
Only the fringiest of the fringe could seriously
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Fringe or not, he'll get attacked for it...
He is pro-life and doesn't condone prostitution, but he'll take contribution money from them? Huh....seems that he is doing now exactly what he said he wouldn't which was taking contributions from special interest groups.
And he aligned himself with Tucker.
I believe he just put the noose around his own neck. :o)
A no brainer for the right-wing fringe.
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Right wing fringe endorsements. Ask the
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Good grief! If you are not a fringe-element
this report does not pertain to you. If you are a conservative, a Republican, or just don't like this administrations policies, the report has NOTHING to do with you! The report is specifically discussing extremist activity. And do not tell me that does not exist. I lost family members in OKC, and I sincerely hope that we never again have a domestic terrorism tragedy.
I think government agencies should be monitoring the activities of extremist groups and those that promote extremist ideology, no matter if they are far right-wing, far lef-twing, Islamic, or Martian. We pay our taxes, in part, so that our government can keep us safe when we drop our children off at daycare and head to work.
I think it is very sad that this is being turned into political fodder by partisan people with agendas to promote. This is a report done to help inform law enforcement agencies so that other peoples' sisters and nephews do have to die.
More musing from the fringe's outhouse magazine rack.
This incredible spew of smoke and mirrors does not effectively argue anything except that it's time for your medications. Let's make this a bit simpler. Go here. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bill+clinton+wiki&aq=f&oq= Conduct Find search and press next a time or two until you get to the surpluse statement that clearly indicates at the end of the Clinton years, the surplus was $559 billion dollars.
From point #1: "Anyone who believes otherwise is a tin-foil hat fringe conspiracist."
Ah, those pinko lefty Presbyterians!!! They hate America,are unpatriotic, traitorous, out-of-touch, terrorists....did I forget anything?
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060814&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=608140369&SectionCat=&Template=printart
Monday, August 14, 2006
9/11 book from church publishing house causes uproar
Author claims U.S. orchestrated attacks
By Peter Smith
psmith@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journal
By Peter Smith
psmith@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journal
The official publishing house of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has printed a new book about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that has outraged conservatives in the church and elsewhere.
The book, Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11, written by David Ray Griffin, a professor emeritus at Claremont School of Theology in California, accuses the Bush administration of carrying out the attacks as a pretext for expanding America's demonic imperial power.
Griffin argues, among other things, that the World Trade Center towers collapsed because of secretly planted explosives -- he quotes eyewitnesses who claim that's what it looked and sounded like -- and not because airliners crashed into the buildings, causing fires.
Writers on conservative Presbyterian Web sites have been responding by saying officials of the Louisville-based denomination are out of touch with members and by calling for a boycott of Presbyterian Publishing Corp.
The corporation funds itself from book sales and has editorial independence in deciding what to publish, although its board is elected by the denomination's legislative General Assembly.
But as word of the book spreads, some Presbyterians lament that it comes as the 2.3 million-member denomination struggles with financial troubles, declining membership and a controversial General Assembly vote to open the door to ordaining gays.
It is sad that at this time in the life of our denomination, yet another silly and inflammatory step would be taken by the church's bureaucracy, said the Rev. Michael Walker, executive director of Presbyterians for Renewal, a conservative group based in Louisville.
The Rev. Parker Williamson of the North Carolina-based Presbyterian Lay Committee asked how these wild accusations make it through the editorial process.
Davis Perkins, president of the publishing company, said the book's stances are not those of the corporation or of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.).
But in recent written statements, he defended the decision to publish the book, saying it is not an off-the-wall polemic but rather a considered work with 49 pages of extensive scholarly notes.
Perkins said Griffin's claims will not be universally accepted by his readers, but the arguments supporting those claims merit careful consideration by serious-minded Christians and Americans concerned with truth and the meaning of their faith.
The publisher would not say how many of the 7,500 copies of the book have been sold since its publication last month.
The book was published under the corporation's prestigious Westminster John Knox imprint, which produces works on theology and popular spirituality from a range of scholars, including liberal and evangelical Christians and also Jews. It also produces popular works such as The Gospel According to The Simpsons.
But Perkins said such works haven't stirred controversy over whether they reflect the church's official position.
Publishing a range of views is what academic/trade publishers do, he said. The corporation publishes specifically Presbyterian works under a separate imprint, Geneva Press.
Griffin is part of a wider movement whose books and Web sites challenge the official version of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001. Similar claims by University of Wisconsin-Madison instructor Kevin Barrett have brought calls for him to be fired.
In his book, Griffin claims that the U.S. military could have intercepted the four hijacked jets if it had wanted to and that the hijacker accused of slamming an airliner into the Pentagon lacked the flying skills to do so.
Griffin calls on Christians to oppose the Bush administration's foreign policy, just as ancient Christians opposed the Roman Empire. He said that although he doesn't believe in literal evil spirits, such empires have demonic power to do great harm.
Our first allegiance must be to God, he writes. … If we believe that our political and military leaders are acting on the basis of policies that are diametrically opposed to divine purposes, it is incumbent upon us to say so.
Griffin is a member of another Protestant denomination, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). The Presbyterian Publishing Corp. has published several of his books on theology.
Griffin said in an interview last week that for the first year and a half after Sept. 11, he believed the attacks simply were carried out by Arab terrorists angry about American foreign policy. I didn't think … even the Bush administration would do such a thing, he said.
But skeptics of the widely accepted accounts convinced him that the attacks were an inside job used to justify the administration's expansion of military powers and the adoption of the doctrine of pre-emptive war, the basis of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Griffin has written two previous books on this theme under different publishers. The third book seeks to rally church groups into challenging the official accounts.
Griffin said he's heard the recent criticisms from Presbyterians but not from anybody who's actually read the book.
It's remarkable how certain people can be that this idea is wrong, he said.
Reporter Peter Smith can be reached at (502) 582-4469.
More delusions of grandeur from the NCFC (Neocon/femocon) fringe.
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Here we have a fringe flock constituent accusing Colin Powell
with a straight face and seriously expecting us to buy into this psycho-babble. The only people you are scaring with this trash is each other.
Care to post the right fringe rumor rag conspiracy theory link
I am not into solving prevarication puzzles. Further comment might be forthcoming if you spit out precisely what you are trying to say here.
I'd say I'm clueless at all....
What is with the aversion to telling the truth, or at least providing sources for your claims? Please, do a different dance than most of the neocons and provide some worthy evidence!!!! That is all I'm asking.
Not really a hateful person at all....just tired of folks who do not value honesty, that's all.
Clueless!
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Clueless!!!!!
no wonder the democrats are in such bad shape. you have no idea of the workings of the dow! Man on manoschevitz!
You are obviously clueless since you have
remotely intelligent. I have a feeling it's because you haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about and you are only here because you love to stir up trash. You enjoy wallowing in that heap. I'll find someone who is capable of engaging in true debate and not looking to get their kicks with juvenile behavior.
TO clueless........
I am sick and tired of putting money in the hands of people who refuse to get off their butts. I do not want to pay for their many many children while they sit at home and wait for the Headstart bus to give their child curbside service so they can have a babysitter for their child all day long, while they do nothing to better themselves, even though they can go back to school during this time, get an education, H@LL FIRE, get a job. Most of these folks are within walking distances to a job but they don't want one because that would mean having to pay their own way in life. They have better than many members of my family who have actually worked their entire lives and haven't asked for a handout while they sit and watch neighbors living in HUD houses, tear them up, party all day and all night, children running rampant all over the place....it's sickening really.
When you see your paycheck dwindle to nothing, just know you can be proud in saying you contributed to the welfare roll.
Wow - you really ARE clueless.
I don't give two poos about gay marriage. So YOUR negaitive energy is misdirected.
I have this mental picture of you.
It looks a lot like Gollum.
You are truly clueless..........
I said there are blacks in my community that do NOT take advanatage of the opportunities afforded them. And, please, no kid around here is choosing to sell drugs to support their families. I was born very poor and I have better since than to sell drugs or steal.
You need to get off your righteous high horse and get a clue. Being poor is no excuse, NO EXCUSE, for murdering innocent people because you want a dollar in your pocket. I didn't have a say in when I arrived either, but I sure as heck know the difference between right and wrong.
BTW, these poor kids's government is not there to SUPPORT them, even though my tax dollars do just that! That attitude is the problem with the thinking of those that think they are "entitled" to more free money. You obviously feel you need the government to make your living and do your thinking for you as well as these kids. Their government is supposed to be there for the purpose of providing a strong military to support the safety of our country, not pay their way through life!!!
There are plenty of poor white kids around here....I spend time in our schools and believe me, there are many poor kids of both colors. Crimes are committed by those of both races, but the greatest number are by blacks. If you don't like those numbers, too bad; those are the facts. Those gangs which you seem to think so highly of only support one thing......more CRIME!
You need to get yourself into one of our schools around here and ask some of the children what they want to be when they grow up......you would be shocked to hear the answers. Some people just live in a dream world. Continue to feel sorry for their situation and encourage that behavior; your attitude does just that.
Clueless......
And who voted for GW? Hahahaha! I'm glad we have mental giants such as you who can sum it all up for us! You sho must make a LOT of money to support all those lazy people out there.
CLUELESS = NOTHING TO SAY!
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Clueless
Why don't you stick to commenting on things you actually have a clue about? I'm sure that the president was intricately involved in all aspects of the strategy for this rescue operation, even though you didn't hear about it.
And one brain..........mn
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OMG! ! ! Have you ever been brain-
washed. Or, either you are JTBB posting under still another moniker, which is very likely! These certainly sound like some of her childish name callings. Grow up for heavens sake! You are just another Fox hater because you know cannot stand the fact that they present the truth to people and are not ashamed to do so.
You think you got your brain all by yourself? WOW....
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LOL.....totally clueless. So, gt.....sm
It only matters to you if a Republican's ancient ancestor was in cahoots with Hitler. But Democrats can skate, right? Right! Gotcha!
You are clueless and hateful
and EVERYTHING stated in that article is LIES!
You just proved how clueless you are
Are your paranoid or have you been drinking again? I love confusing liberals, but then it's not too hard to do.
She's as clueless as the president...nm
They are clueless on purpose ...
it's almost laughable.
clueless...idiots...
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You really are clueless aren't you?
There is a word for rising up against your government and our founding fathers made sure the CITIZENS of this country, who OWN their government, had in place a constitution which actually ALLOWED us to rise up and speak AGAINST our government if EVER we felt our government was out of control.
That's why the 'right to bear arms' was put in there or did you overlook that too?
You are so diluded in your thinking that you actually BELIEVE no one is supposed to speak out against their government. Do you know WHY our founding fathers wanted to make sure Americans had firearms? To stand up and resist a tyranical government when it is out of control.
You better be glad somebody cares enough for your backside that they still understand what your rights are, cause you SURE DON'T!
You have no problem with anyone speaking against our government; you have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it! If you do nothing else, be honest about that at least.... it's so obvious!
You are truly one clueless person.
You are truly one clueless person.
brain study
I read a study where they did brain scans on democrats and republicans and while scanning showed pictures of war. The republican brains lit up on the opposite side than the democrat brains. So, the study surmised that just maybe our brains were built to work differently and that could be why we have a take on things so radically differently. I will try to find the article and post the net address.
If the scarecrow had a brain (sm)
they would be smart enough to know that not everyone being paid an hourly wage less than the minimum wage is EARNING lessing than minimum wage. Or are they so cheap they've never left a tip?
If they had a brain they also would have checked their facts before they posted Al Franken's butt talk.
And if it didn't have a brain, it would be
Bush brain
This is how his mind works: How am I supposed to evacuate New Orleans.
His mind says, I KNOW ROW VERSUS WADE, I believe I heard that somewhere.
What an idiot, what a jerk. He took responsibility for this mess, did not have enough balls to mention Iraq. The saddest thing is he has several extreme right believing him. I have nothing against conservative right, just extreme right. Hey, I am born again. I am not into organized religion, I am just into the teachings of Jesus Christ. I have strong beliefs, but this administration has decided we should all be organized religion. There has to be, has to be, a separation of church and state, that is where this idiot went wrong. Yes, things are different, kids cannot pray in schools or do the pledge of allegiance, but anyone with a mind knows you can pray silently or do anything silently. Prob is they want it crammed down everyones throat. I have enough of a relationship with my God, I can pray anywhere, privately, do not have to do it like a marter with everyone looking on, it loses its power that way.
If you had a brain, you'd have a clue. sm
Unfortunately, you don't have either. And you are dangerous. You put us all at risk. Especially the military you PRETEND to support. And it is a pretense. We all know it. Cowards. You are all cowards.
Yes, the brain is evil.
I don't know what else you could call it. Just the fact that Bush relies on a man with Rove's kind of history says all there is to say about this administration - the addition of the rest of the Nixon-era chickenhawks is icing on that sh**cake. It's creepy beyond belief how some Bush supporters actually applaud that kind of dirty business and call it political saavy. Let's call it what it really is - just plain amoral and reprehensible sociopathic behavior.
Fox is #1 among the BRAIN DEAD
LOL - studies have proven FOX viewers to be significantly LESS informed about current events than ANY of the other networks (though they are all back)...
FOX tells the brain-dead WHAT THEY WANT to hear -
THEY DISTORT, YOU REPEAT.
Hey, I think I hear Bill O'LIEly calling you!
Yes I have a heart and a brain
which are 2 things you lack. If you were raped by your father would you have the baby? Take a walk (not a ride) through the homeless or less than privledged areas in your community. Get a grip lady - deal with reality and stop turning away every time you see someone who has alot less than you. It's not murder you jack a-hole!
have a brain. Well, nevermind.. nm
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While you're at it, get a brain!
I guess that's why you and you're kind hate Hillary Clinton, because you're JEALOUS of her. What a good argument.
Please grow a brain. Look up what the
I was not alluding to real trains hitting each other, okay?
Taking everything you read literally is the best way I know of to be brainwashed, cheated, fooled, hoodwinked, taken advantage of, screwed, you name it.
What I alluded to is that I don't want MY tax dollars, or anyone ELSE's, bailing out a bunch of crooks who STOLE money from a bunch of people, sold 'em bad loans, etc., and got RICH BEYOND ANYONE'S WILDEST DREAMS by doing so.
Wall Street & Corporate America have turned into one giant con-man's shell-game, and it's about time there was a major shakeout and restructuring. Would it be difficult in the short-run? You bet. (Like it isn't already?) But in the long-run, if the system were reinvented and rebuilt, it might come out a lot better in the end.
Thank you.....nice to know someone has a brain
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Do you have a brain and just choose not to use it?
Are you seriously denying that Obama began his political career in the living room of an infamous domestic terrorist?
NObody's that stupid, gourdpainter. Not even you!
Did you brain even process what I just said?...sm
It does not matter if he was born on Mars or in a spaceship, his mother was an American citizen when he was born and was until the day she died. That makes him a natural-born American citizen and eligible to run for president. Do I need to repeat myself again? What is it that you do not understand?
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