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News flash, m...

Posted By: SM on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: Reasoning........... sm - m

Not everyone believes the same as you. You can be shocked and disappointed all you like, it is not going to change anyone's mind. As a matter of fact, the more I learn about the mindset of the the extreme conservatives, the more liberal I become.


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News Flash. sm

Using the term living in ignorance is not calling a name.  If you are that sensitive, political boards are not for you.


News flash
from an old crohn who has lived a long time.  If you are expecting things to be any better under EITHER regime, I think you're whistling in the wind.  Both candidates supported the bail-out that is going to put us all under and I expect we'll become the newest Third World Country.  When all is said and done, we have no one to blame but ourselves.  We've allowed our country to be overrun by illegal aliens thanks to many bleeding hearts.  BOTH of these candidates support "comprehensive immigration reform."  We only need the laws already on the books to be enforced.  BOTH of them want to reward the illegals already in this country knowing full well that it will further depress wages and benefits but it will sure please the big businesses that they BOTH cater to.  We pay lip service to wanting change but how the heck do we get it when we keep wanting "experience" or more of the same when we say we want "change."  Ain't gonna happen.  I refer to the definition of insanity:  "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."  To quote the person who constantly says it..........SHEESH!!
News flash...(sm)

I have had an abortion.  Was it for my own convenience?  No.  Did I have to have escorts into the building because people like you were outside throwing bottles and yelling murderer?  Yes.  By the way, they set a bomb the next day that killed quite a few people.  I guess that wasn't murder though because it was name of the lord.  Did I enjoy ripping my child apart limb by limb and decapitating him/her as you so eloquantly put it?  Not so much.  Was it really like that even?  No.  How did I know?  Well, let's just say the tape they used to hold the material over the *collection jar* didn't stick very well.  What you don't understand is that having an abortion is not an easy decision, but sometimes it is a necessary decision. 


So why did I have an abortion?  I had 2 choices.  I could have the child who was fathered by the man who was my husband at the time, who would have beaten the child just like he beat and raped me, or I could have had the child so it could end up in that list of children you just turned your nose up at.  You see, not everybody fits into that nice little box you like to call *girls who just want to get pregnant,* but if that makes it prettier for you, then go right ahead.


Religion:


I don't have a problem with faith, I have a problem with religion, especially when it impacts social issues that would take away rights of others who are not represented by that religion, or when it presents a double standard (you really don't have to look too hard to find those).  A person on this board wrote that politics don't belong in the pulput.  I agree.  But I also believe that the pulput doesn't belong in politics.  Keep your religion, let it teach you whatever it will, abide by it's rules.  Just don't expect others to have the same set of rules.


Helping my community:  You have no idea what I do and don't do, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge someone you don't know.  Maybe you should spend less time running all over the world trying to find that perfect baby that will look just like mommy and daddy and spend more time using that money spent on the kids here that need help.  I guess that would be too much to ask for because those children here are just too much of a pain in the a$$ for you.


You just keep on rambling on about how wonderful you are and how $hitty everyone else is.  Oh, and might I point out that most christians I know don't help others for recognition (your boasting is disgusting), they help others because they want to and because that is what their faith teaches them to do.


News flash for you.
Palin lost.

Get a new hobby.
News flash....(sm)

The current debt of the US BEFORE this plan is $10,765,494,601,610.69 as of Feb 14, 2009.  It has continued to increase by about $3.58 billion PER DAY since Sept 28, 2007.  Hmmmm.....


I wonder what could be costing us so much?  How about this?


http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home


And you want to complain about spending money that will actually BENEFIT people. 


News flash for you......

We get the fact that this deficit was there before Obama took office.  However, there were many dems who voted in favor of the war in Iraq...including Hillary Clinton.  Bush didn't do all of this on his own.  He did all of this with the help of the rest of the government and within the last few years or so....I do believe dems controlled congress. 


All this being said, it still does not make spending 1 trillion dollars okay because....hey Bush already racked up a huge deficit first.  Government spending is part of what got us in this mess in the first place and now what is government doing.......SPENDING MORE.  I can't help but cringe. 


As far as blaming all this money being spent on Iraq......how about all the money that goes to illegal aliens daily.  We are talking billions of dollars going to illegal aliens in this country....and I do believe Obama's own aunt is one of those. 


news flash
A ton of people are already smoking pot. Probably people you would never suspect. I know teachers, lawyers, doctors, grandmothers, and even the minister of my church.

I think it is a great idea! Besides the income from the tax, we can quit wasting resources on something so absurd.
News flash....(sm)
That wasn't "god" commiting murder.  That was one of your run of the mill wacko pro-life supporters.  You must be so proud.  Since you believe that life begins at conception, what makes it okay to take one life and not okay to take another's?  You have to be the most hypocritical excuse for a human I've ever had the misfortune to meet.
News flash - yourself, you need to read
are the one trying to involve religion and "social issues."
News flash, Shelly.
There are millions of people who believe in the concept of God and not all of them believe in the same God you claim to believe in. It may be "your" one and only true God, but you cannot speak for anyone else.
???? Um. News flash. Hillary didn't win - - - nm
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News flash. Bush is not running.
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News flash for you.......their women are scared
They are afraid to even move the wrong way for fear of retribution. THey are afraid to let their daughters go to school because they fear what will happen to them on the way to school. Of course, the women will treat you with respect. The women aren't usually the problem. It's the beliefs the men have forced down their throats and those of their daughters. Don't misinterpret respect for fear, fear of doing anything that could get them beaten to death. There are some more liberal areas where beliefs are not as harsh and families are not so demanding of their women and daughters; Saudi Arabia and Iran are two of them, but even Iranian women are coming under attack again and are fearful of even crossing the street.

Like I have been told by Muslim women in this country who are no longer under the control of men from those countries, they feel such a relief and do not have to fear for their lives every day. They will tell you their sons are taught from a small age to chant verses of hate over and over again, brainwashing them. Only those that are lucky enough to be in a more liberal environment and even leave the country abroad for education purposes realize the difference in the teachings from other religions, where love is actually taught.
NEWS FLASH....prostitutes' business

One madam reported her girls were getting $260 for 60 minutes but now they're hurting because of the economy.   Boy, it's pretty bad when our news media thinks it's noteworthy to note the whores are hurting. 


Hey, news flash - This isn't O's personal life
And sure you don't care about Bush...you'd be all over him in a second criticizing him up and down. This is not the O's personal life. I could care less what the O, Michelle, his daughters and relatives do in their own lives.

This is his public life, and the people (our servants) that he has invited to his parties, and the fact that he's spending our tax money to fund his parties!!!!!!!
News flash, Jon Voight is mentally ill.
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NEWS FLASH - Michelle wears flat shoes a lot!!
What in the world can we read into this?
This is bulls**t. Pure and simple. But you guys LOVE the troops. News flash. SM
Recruiters are troops. 
If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
FLASH! Your cheap methods won't work here.
Sadly for you, people on this forum are beginning to learn how to think.

First, you don't give your source - THE HUFFINGTON POST! Get a clue that we're on to you and won't let you get away with this crap for even one minute. Try this deception again and we'll bury you.

Second, the way Boehner used the word "torture" was taken entirely out of context as he did not call our methods torture, nor did he agree that this is what they amounted to.

Here's what Boehner said - and you'll notice that it is completely different from what you are TRYING so very hard to mis-portray:

"House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) is upset with the Obama administration for releasing the torture memos and thinks the time for a public debate is over — even though the debate just seems to be heating up.

"I don't — I don't see a lot of value in looking back. ... This is another side show here in Washington," he told reporters during his weekly news conference.

"When it comes to what our interrogation techniques are going to be or should be, I — I'm not going to disclose, nor should anyone have a conversation about what those techniques ought to be. It's — it's inappropriate. All it does is give our enemies more information about us than they need."

A reporter (me) interjected: "Do you think it's inappropriate to have a public conversation about the techniques we use?"

Boehner: "Oh, I think that conversation has occurred. The president has made decisions, and we should move forward."

Me, again: "But you think — you just said it was inappropriate. You don't think ..."

Boehner: "I don't — I don't see that we're going to learn anything that — that clearly members in a bipartisan way, the congressional leaders, didn't already know about these techniques."

John Bresnahan: "Shouldn't the American public know [inaudible]? Shouldn't they have an idea?"

Boehner: "Well, listen, I — I'll take a deep breath here. [Grabs podium and inhales.] We're talking about terrorists who are hell bent on killing Americans. All right? And — and 3,000 of our fellow citizens died. And there were techniques that were used by Americans and our allies around the world that helped keep America safe."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/Boehner_Inappropriate_to_talk_about_torture.html
FOX news IS the news. The only 1 that tells BOTH
nm
It's all over the news - and I mean ALL news stations.
not just the ones you don't like.

Do you get any news except at the DU? ????? NM

Believe it or not, I do keep up with the news.
I realize this is an old story, but it has a new twist to it because now Gary Bernsten is now giving the specifics surrounding it.
When the news first came out that he was..sm
hosting a fundraiser for her I thought it was weird, but now that you bring it up (and it's a good question) I did some research and it appears that old Ruppert has a history of switching his backing between parties. Some believe his main objective is monopoly in broadcasting, not party loyalty or belief in party ideals (aka Big Business 102).

Excerpt from wsws.org: 'When it comes to politics, Murdoch, known in media circles as the “dirty digger,” is equally adaptable in pursuing his personal gain. The most loyal right-wing Tory and friend of Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s, as he built up his media holdings in Britain, he switched his loyalties to “New Labour” when he saw that Tony Blair could provide a fresh face for even more reactionary politics and was more than willing to further Murdoch’s interests in return for editorial backing. He made similar swings in his native Australia between the Labor and Liberal parties to further his efforts at monopolizing the print and broadcast media.'
Actually, I saw it on ABC News....
the footage of Obama not putting hand over heart for pledge. In all fairness, that is the only footage I have seen of him not doing so....never was a recipient of whatever chain email you are speaking of. Believe it...yes, saw it with my own eyes. Why he did it, have no idea. There could be a multitude of reasons why he didn't do it. Here is the big BUT...it does make one a but curious when coupled with the fact that he dispensed with wearing of the flag pin on his lapel. I heard his explanation; I am just not sure I buy it. Each thing alone not such a big deal...together, it does make one wonder, so I can see why nanna might have reservations. It is good to question things and not take everything at face value...be the candidate Dem, Repub, Inde...whatever.
Fox news

A propanganda machine for repubs.  No one is obligated to appear on that network.  There are plenty of other media outlets. Fox's ratings are dropping and MSNC's are climbing.  Fox disguises these facts by including their entertainment ratings in with their "news" ratings.  As far as ALL OTHER MEDIA being liberal, that is a transparent technique to keep viewers from getting opinions from ANY OTHER source than Fox.  I certainly wouldn't fall for that bunko.  I also notice that they concentrate on certain sites such as Media Matters and NY Times specifically because those sites are excellent at presenting the truth about distorted information disseminated by the propaganda machine. To each his own.


 


 


Where do you get your news?

Sorry, I'm conservative, but have to ask why you would go down that road when you can find those answers yourself.


Might I suggest worldnetdaily.com, townhall.com, drudgereport.com, breitbart.com, talk radio (and the hosts' web sites, including Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Savage, Levin, Michelle Malkin, Rush, etc.).  There are countless news stories that never make the mainstream media.


Another thing to consider is who a person keeps for company.  When questionable names keep coming up (Pflager, Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, etc.), that would concern me if I were considering any kind of relationship with someone, but that's just me.


Those who support Obama get their news from MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and so on.  Those networks alone have been proven repeatedly to be biased.  All the times that McCain went abroad, where were Couric, Gibson, and Williams?  Why would any American think that the Democrats, who are determined to reinstate Fairness Doctrine, think that it won't come back and bite them?  Why should any American be silenced just because one group disagrees with another?


Do you know what is posted on blogs like the DailyKos and HuffingtonPost? 


Lastly, a couple more stats.  The #1 most liberal Senator is Obama.  Kennedy is #2, Biden is #3.  Even the moderate Democrats are distancing themselves from him.  This info is documented and not fiction.


That's rather left of left, I would say.


I'm already looking for my fire extinguisher, but the truth hurts sometimes.


Trust your own gut.


She knows it because it was all over the news
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news

You have more options now than anytime in history to gather information.  You can gather information from both sides of the issue and verify the facts and then make your own decision based on your personal values.


 


Old news....nm
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Fox News is the only one I DO believe.
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SP on ABC News
Just saw first installment of interview with SP with Charlie Gibson.  In my opinion, she really messed that up!  Experienced and ready to lead?  No way.  Danced around every question and flat out lied when asked what she said about Iraq War being a mission from God.  What's the worst thing about listening to her for the first time in her own words, she says NUCULAR!!!  Just like George Bush.  Oh no...not again. 
SP on ABC News
She was so nervous, she had big red blotches on the side of her neck. He pressed on dancing around and not answering the questions he asked. She looked like a deer in the headlights to me.
old news....ho hum.. nm
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NBC news...
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/17/1413605.aspx
old news
This happened years ago, not yesterday. How come you are just hearing about it? Did you check your dates in snopes?
Maybe old news, but why does no one get it? sm
do you just want to ignore all the blatant truths about Obama being linked to terrorists and cling to hope that he is not REALLY a terrorist and hope that he really will do what he says? So just blindly accept him at his word and ignore all the indications that tell us otherwise. Do you not see any huge red flags waving in front of your eyes??
Fox NEWS is not the news
Joe the plumber is a plant! All your info is wrong.
Fox News
Plenty has been said about Sarah Palin's appearance, from her designer glasses to her striking similarity to actress Tina Fey.

But lately her stylish look has come at a price -- more than $150,000 of which was paid for by the Republican National Committee -- according to a report Tuesday by Politico.

The Web site cited financial disclosure records that suggest the wardrobe makeover began in September and included bills from Sak's Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York totaling nearly $50,000.

The documents also show a $75,000 shopping trip at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis in September, as well as about $4,700 spent on hair and makeup, Politico reported. Documents don't show similar costs in August.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/21/report-rnc-spent-g-spruce-palin/
fox news
Good Evening,

 

1.  On Sunday night at 9 on Fox News, Hannity's America will run "The Ten Reasons Why Barack Obama Should Not Be President."  Please spread the word.

 

2.  The article that follows is about Sarah Palin and the elites (both Democrat and Republican).  It is well worth the read:

 


And this is news how?????
HA HA HA HA HA. I never trusted her. I just hope I see as less of Dillary than I do of Condi.
It's news because...(sm)

Israel is getting ready to invade Gaza and is already in the process of bombing raids.  Meanwhile the current US administration (aka Bush/Condi/Cheney/etc) is perpetuating the lies about Gaza, such as who is the real terrorist, ignoring a legitimate democratically elected council, etc.  The OP explains all this.  Bottom line is that the US is giving Israel a green light, which to some of us (as well as a large portion of the world) is condoning genocide. 


And Americans wonder why the rest of the world has such a bad opinion of us. 


Old news.......
I posted the entire article on how Obama wants to pay for abortions in Ethiopia and abroad with MY money but instead of responses of "NOT MY MONEY", all I got was criticism for being AGAINST abortion......

Go figure..... that's what I mean when I say this country has lost its loyalty to itself and we have a president who has absoluely no loyalty to this country; his loyalties lie elsewhere
I saw it on the news. It is to try
this stimulus. Also that is why Obama had townhall meetings to show congress "We the people" want this stimulus to pass.

Boy, Obama sure loves campaigning and speeches.


Old news - nm

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I would think Fox News would be enough
Unless, of course, you have built up your tolerance for it by listening to Michael Savage.
The ones that have been all over the news -
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As far as what is said on the news....(sm)

I'm not responsible for that.  Having said that though I do think that as a whole people are more tolerant (I wouldn't go so far as to say accepting).  However, that doesn't diminish the fact that violence against homosexuals is still a prevalent crime.


I actually do wish more people would teach their children as you described above.  If that were happening, none of this would be an issue and there would be no need to take it to the schools. 


Let's take Patty, for example.  She has already said that yes, she does call homosexuals names in front of her kids.  She does this at the same time that she's spouting out references to the Bible.  So what do you think her kids think?  Maybe that it's God's will that they call homosexuals names?  I don't know what they're supposed to think or how they are supposed to act given her example.  Do you think she's teaching tolerance?  If not, who will if not the schools?


Anybody else see this on the news?
The taxpayers just footed the bill for Pres and Michelle Obama's $20,000 date this weekend in New York. Yeah, won't we ALL be making sacrifices - all of us to pay for them? Boils my blood to see any one in politics spending public money on such foolishness and so excessively.
Just saw that on the news also.
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