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Nope. It's the politics, so

Posted By: to the extent that the 2 intersect...sm on 2009-02-09
In Reply to: well - shelly

we are stll coming from opposite directions especially since I believe in strict separation of church from state. I was raised Christian but have had such bad experiences with organized religion, I would have to characterize myself as a universalist and take more of a smorgasbord approach to spirituality. Having said that, I most definitely consider myself to be a spiritual person and try to focus on the prinnciples of all faiths while generally shying away from the dogma of the church. This is no way excludes Christian principles from my "awareness," only the dogma I find so unpalatable when denominations try to take it to a place that I find most uncomfortable...that exclusionary process where religions try to compete with one another.

Can you work with that?


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She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.

Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
I'm not - NOPE.
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Nope...sm
The Billy part was childish but he was right on with his anti-war part of the debate.

Bill was the one who threw his nephew in there and tried to make it like he was being denigrated. Phil simply asked him would he let his children go fight in this war and that's when Bill threw a hissy fit about his nephew.

Remember the factor is a NO SPIN ZONE, but Bill was spinning.

Again, I'll give you the point Billy was childish. I guess that's why he said he would not have Phil back on the show.
Nope!

Nope.
Not overestimating your own ability to debate, be witty and intelligent either, unfortunately.  Those insults are really lame.  I mean they really are.  I can't believe people let you get away with that.
Nope, cuz you are always

Nope I'm not

I'm defending a president who has the courage to do what is right.


God bless GWB.  I'm glad he doesn't cower to lilly-livers like you.


Nope. Not a he. nm
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Nope.
My opinion is right. Everyone else is wrong.
Nope..........
If ACORN really was interested in oversight, they would have woke up the first time they were investigated and some of their "followers" indicted for crimes committed. They know this is going on because some of their own workers have spoken out and said they were coerced, threatened, etc., by ACORN heads to go out and do this, and ACORN did what they needed to do to make sure there was no one looking through these false registrations.

It's still happening, so you gonna sit there and tell me they STILL don't now it's going on?
Nope
Steal job...steal food......what's the difference.  Apples=apples, oranges=oranges.
Nope, not mad at you, not at all.
not mad at anyone. Just stating a simple fact...I do not trust Obama and I do not respect him simply because he holds the office. He has to earn both. I do not think that any of the democrats here would do any less if McCain had won the election, and I do not think I would be seeing as many unity posts from democrats if McCain had won, which makes me doubt the sincerity.

However, that is not at issue. This is between the President elect and me...as I said, he is the master of his own destiny and my opinion of him going forward will be crafted by him and him alone...not by his followers or detractors.

:-)
Nope
I blame the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the passage of the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act for creating, in large part, the mess we are in today. Without those occurrences, there would not have been 80% of subprime mortages doled out by entities not covered by CRA.

Combine that with the Ponzi scheme of bundling derivatives, and it brings global economy to its knees.
Nope...(sm)
As pointed out I don't know how many times on this board...HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!  I think that both parties would agree that it would send a very conflicting message were both Bush and Obama to attend.  That is why he's not going.
Nope I can't
The posters on this board say it all. Some are so in love with the O, others worship the ground he walks on. I'm not putting everyone in the same boat, but for the most part if you read the posts it is a clear love/worship affair they have with the O. I won't categorize you in the same boat because you have shown some good thoughts to your posts, but others do not. And yes it is repulsive.

They do say love is blind and you sure can tell on this board.

I do like your saying though "Good grief gertie". :-)
Nope, she's right on. - nm
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Nope
Not buying it.  I certainly can expect to raise my children as I see fit w/o the government coming into my home and taking over.  I also can certainly expect, as all parents SHOULD, that the government would have certain regulations and laws about public internet access and pornography.  I should NOT have to sit with my 17-year-old son in the library and hold his hand while he is on the computer doing research just because the government has decided that pornography is a God given right and all can see it.  I certainly have a RIGHT to expect my government to provide decent public environments in such places as libraries for the good of our children.  My parenting skills are my responsibility 100% yes I agree.  However, the government has a RESPONSIBILITY to ensure our children are not exposed to this kind of stuff in places such as this.  WHY??   Because there are freaks out there that think that anything is okay and they don't care about our children and as long as we have to live in this world with people like that, we should, as parents, be able to DEPEND on our government to keep our children safe and unexposed to trash like this.  I mean hey, why dont we just get rid of R rated movies for kids under 17 and then why NOT let any kid of any age go into the adult video stores and do whatever they want.  Why not just show porn shows on public TV?  I mean, isnt it censorship NOT to allow a TV channel air whatever they want? 
Nope yourself.
That's how it works, dear.
Nope....that's not what I said...(sm)

I insinuated that that is how we have evolved, into 2 main separate parties.  No, I don't think we have to have 2 parties.  One would be fine so long as decisions that are made are made in the best interest of the people.  That's one thing I like about Obama, his willingness to work with the other side, regardless of whether or not they return the favor.  However, quite frankly, the republican side of the equation is not doing very well.  They have managed to stampede all over the constitution (founding father stuff, btw), take away rights, left us with a deficit when they started with a surplus (while they are calling us the spending party), and completely destroyed any credibility we had worldwide.  What I see in the democratic party IS common sense.


Nope
My mother was a police officer who killed a man, but she didn't have an abortion, so I guess she is okay then right?   What about my dad, grandfather and brother who killed people in the war?  Are they okay too?   Oh and my uncle who is a police officer, he shot and killed people.  Is he okay?   I mean a life is a life, right? 
Nope.
But I still have my McCain/Palin sticker on my car.
Nope.......
The quran has many many many words said against (hate) Christians and Jews by Mohammed.

Quran 8:39 “So fight them (Arabic quran says murder them) until there is no more Fitnah (sanity; 'disbelief' [ of/to/by non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone".

This is speaking of Christians, Jews, and ANYONE who is not Muslim.

Sounds like love doesn't it?

Nope.....LOL.(sm)

The couple that just had the union would also have the same opportunity to practice whatever ceremony that applied to them, and just like the christians, would not be recognized legally without a union.


Look at it like this (and this is probably a bad analogy, but I'll try it anyway):  Everyone has to go to high school (unions), but if they want to go that extra mile to excell they go to college (practice whatever religious beliefs).


And before you guys start, yes, I do know that not everyone goes to high school.


That's right. Unfortunately, that's politics.nm
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Now, this is politics.....for sure......

 


 


                                             


 


All politics aside...I do want to wish everyone a...
very happy Thanksgiving, and I hope you are all able to enjoy it with family and friends...and if some of us have to work, here's hoping they keep the leftovers warm.  Happy Thanksgiving!
Politics... LOL
I think it just depends on the person.. some people ACTUALLY dont give a crap about them... at all. which to me is totally foreign... that's ALMOST as bad as being the opposing side to me haha. Luckily my family (or at least the ones i actually spend time with, my immediate ones) we all feel exactly the same way, but even we can get loud and annoying while even agreeing with each other! haha. politics is one thing that I get completely heated about... i sometimes wish i didn't care, but i mean, it spreads to all aspects of my life ya know? DISCLAIMER: sorry about the punctuation, i NEVER use it when i am just relaxing. it does not reflec the kind of MT i am. haha
Politics
Not enough crackerjack on the shelf for this election. At least you get a prize.
Fun with Politics

theonion.com


Today Now!: How To Pretend You Give A S**t About The Election


There are so many funny ones at this site it was hard to decide on one!  You'll have to supply the 2 letters above which were refused.  What could they be?!


See what I mean? You can't keep it about politics..
you have to stay in your close-minded, one-sided arguements becasue you don't like to hear the truth. That's okay - you stay on your side and I'll stay on mine and we'll just agree to disagree. And about the bridge, I'll take it - I can donate the profit to the Cancer Society. Thanks so much!!!
MTs and Politics
I never realized how many MTs were *********************** conservative ********until I came to this political board.  When you advertise that you are voting for the McCain/Palin ticket, you might as well as raise your hand and say "I am *************
say anything politics...

People who think Governor Sarah Palin didn't handle some "gotcha" questions well in a couple of interviews show no interest in how she compares to the Democrats' Vice Presidential candidate, Senator Biden.


Joe Biden is much more of the kind of politician the mainstream media like. Not only is he a liberal's liberal, he answers questions far more glibly than Governor Palin— grossly inaccurately in many cases, but glibly.


Moreover, this is a long-standing pattern with Biden. When he was running for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination back in 1987, someone in the audience asked him what law school he attended and how well he did.


Flashing his special phony smile, Biden said, "I think I have a much higher IQ than you do." He added, "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship" and "ended up in the top half" of the class.


But Biden did not have a full academic scholarship. Newsweek reported: "He went on a half scholarship based on need. He didn't finish in the 'top half' of his class. He was 76th out of 85."


Add to Obama and Biden House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and you have all the ingredients for a historic meltdown. Let us not forget that the Roman Empire did decline and fall, blighting the lives of millions for centuries.


To find out more about Thomas Sowell and read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com. Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is www.tsowell.com.


 


All politics aside....

It is very sad that Obama's grandmother passed.


For what it is worth....I don't criticize him for not stopping his campaigning.  He did stop earlier to go and see her, and I feel like she would want him to continue.


At any rate, my prayers for his family in what has to be a very difficult time.


That's politics...

What does this have to do with politics?
I see absolutely nothing in this news story that has anything to do with politics. The only reason you posted this was to try to incite bigotry and hatred towards Muslims. Fortunately, your little plan didn't work and you didn't get the response you wanted.
What does this have to do with politics?
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What does this have to do with politics?
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Politics aside, I know exactly where...

...you're coming from, and it brings back a sad but very funny memory.


My mom died in 1982, and after the viewing, my cousin's husband's sister (no relation to me), whom I had never even met previously, came up to the minister, where my father and I were standing, and very seriously and sincerely thanked him for such a beautiful "urology."  My dad kicked my shoe a little bit, and all I could do was just immediately excuse myself because I knew if I looked at him, I wouldn't be able to NOT laugh.


Knowing my mother, she would have done the same thing -- kick my shoe a little bit -- as if to say, "Did you HEAR that?!"


I've always felt that humor truly does provide good medicine, and on what was undoubtedly one of the saddest days of my entire life, it injected itself in a most unlikely source and time in a way I'll never forget.


As far as Norm Crosby, I remember him well and will always relate to and appreciate his humor. 


Politics aside, I know exactly where...

...you're coming from, and it brings back a sad but very funny memory.


My mom died in 1982, and after the viewing, my cousin's husband's sister (no relation to me), whom I had never even met previously, came up to the minister, where my father and I were standing, and very seriously and sincerely thanked him for such a beautiful "urology."  My dad kicked my shoe a little bit, and all I could do was just immediately excuse myself because I knew if I looked at him, I wouldn't be able to NOT laugh.


Knowing my mother, she would have done the same thing -- kick my shoe a little bit -- as if to say, "Did you HEAR that?!" 


I've always felt that humor truly does provide good medicine, and on what was undoubtedly one of the saddest days of my entire life, it injected itself from a most unlikely source at a time and in a way I'll never forget.


As far as Norm Crosby, I remember him well and will always relate to and appreciate his humor. 


Don't know if this is really politics, but -

I am in a position to buy a new car (not going brand new, but 2008) and pay CASH for it.  After doing much research on the internet and deciding on the car I wanted, I then proceeded to find the "best" deals in a 150-mile area from my home.  Well, the 2nd best price actually came from the dealer that is only 20 miles from me, so I went there to talk to them.


Told them I was paying cash and asked if they could do a better deal to match the other dealership price about 50 miles away (mind you, this is a CHRYSLER dealership) if I wrote them a check and left with the car that day.  They said no, that the only way they made any money on cars was through financing and getting kickbacks so that the price they had was what I had to pay.


Now, if cars are not selling and people do not have any money to buy and banks are not financing right now, don't you think the smart thing would have been to match that other price and take my cash instead of letting me walk away?  That seems to me to be just greedy and just about shows you why the country is in the shape it is in. 


It seems as if they are saying if I can't make $100, I ain't gonna take the $90!!!


well, this is politics and it will always be like this!.
Otherwise we would only have 1 party.
I don't think this had anything to do with politics.
But he definitely was in need of some mental help. This was the same man that tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve board in 1981.

Sounds to me more like he was a paranoid, anti-semetic, anti-government,racist man who finally reached his breaking point. I think it's unfair to imply that even though he was part of what is classified as a hate group, that that automatically makes him right-wing.
Politics is bad enough with the mud
slinging between the two parties.  They just need to leave the kids out of this.  So Bristol Palin had premarital sex.  So what!  I did too.  Big whoop.  I was just lucky enough not to get pregnant.  We all make mistakes.  It is just cruel and mean to keep bashing the Palin family like this.  I really do feel bad for them.  I'd feel just as bad if this were Chelsea Clinton or one of Obama's two daughters.  It is just wrong.  Letterman was out of line.  Like I said before, there is a difference between poking fun and being downright hateful and mean.  Leave the kids out of this!!!!
Nope, wrong again! SM
Wrong wrong wrong.  That must make you...wrongle!  A wrong person.  Yassah!
Not true....nope.
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Nope we aren't

you can believe that but it just ain't so...


Nope. Not happy yet.

Most, if not all, of YOUR posts are incredibly tasteless, in addition to being rude, crude, offensive and frequently untrue.  Yet, NO liberal has accused you of saying they aren't allowed to speak.


Incredibly tasteless = Not permitted to speak IN WHAT WAY?


Are you agreeing that the poster lied in saying that Army Mom was told she wasn't allowed to speak?


No, of course you're not doing that.


Never mind.


 


Nope, afraid we can't

as long as libs wan't to dig up dirt we'll continue throwing the mud you throw from your huge pig stye right back at ya... 



Nope. Mohammed's. nm
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Nope, just a bad link. sm
It says it is corrupted or something like that.  I didn't pay that much attention.  It won't open though. 
Huckabee...? Nope....
from defintion of facism: Fascist movements usually try to retain some supposedly healthy parts of the nation's existing political and social life, but they place more emphasis on creating a new society. In this way fascism is directly opposed to conservatism—the idea that it is best to avoid dramatic social and political change. Instead, fascist movements set out to create a new type of total culture in which values, politics, art, social norms, and economic activity are all part of a single organic national community.

With all due respect, that sounds much more like where liberals are heading than where conservatives are heading...?