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On vacation and not watching the news, thanks. I don't spend all my time sm

Posted By: CDW on 2009-05-06
In Reply to: Where have you been the last 2-3 weeks, out of town??? sm - MT and worn out

watching politics so I guess I missed it.


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How much time did you spend watching
the video and confirming every fact? I care about all this and read what I can, but that sounds borderline obsessive. JMHO of course.
Really? Then perhaps you should spend your time
reminding the posters who continue to say it ain't so, that Obama isn't really dropping those charges. Talk to them, the rest of us do not live in O land.
come on..have you been watching the news?
to vote for Obama just because Hillary won. This is just one more reason for them to vote for her. Ignorant voters in large numbers are dangerous, just look at what the last 8 years has gotten us...
Me watching Fox is not big news...(sm)

I've stated all along that I occasionally watch Fox.  I also watch MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Democracy Now, etc.....basically anything and everything I can get.  Contrary to popular beliefs on this board, I like to hear all sides and then form an opinion.


And yes, I would say that the majority of money for Acorn comes from govt grants.  However, other organizations have the same opportunities as they do to get those grants.  They also take donations.  I think what has happened is that pubs typically count on large donations from businesses, etc.  I think they underestimate the power of getting smaller donations, but from regular people like me.  This is what happened with Obama's campaign.  While he had some heavy weights with large donations, he also had tons of people like me who would donate on a regular basis.  I think the same thing is happening with Acorn.  I think the whole thing is that pubs have underestimated their ability to raise money.  I kind of understand this because for years pubs have been much better at this than dems.....we just went about it a different way.


This is not to say that everything is on the up and up.  Again, I don't think I'm qualified to decide that without all the facts.


You mean with all the time you spend posting on
Your hubs must make a wad, huh? Seeing as how you obviously dont work a lick.
Not so much minority, just not as much time to spend on it...
as some seem to have...

It has been my experience with 2 hospital jobs that I had, most of the women, probably 95%, were married and did not need to work. This is going back some 16 years, but it was reasonable back then. A lot of women I worked with talked about how they ocketed their pay in the bank and lived off the spouses pay and benefits.

Times have changed so much. I was a single, newcomer, who needed every penny I made because I lived week to week, but they would always vote down the benefits because they did not need them, and they always put me down all the time. Luckily, there were a few bright shining stars who were open, friendly, and helpful - who taught me SO much about transcription; but the majority, well, not so much.

My point is that our profession has one of the biggest class divisions I think I have ever seen or experienced.
Keep watching your CNN -The Clinton News
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So far in watching the news today
there is one person who wants this stimulus to pass. I agree.

So, look out for a depression coming soon or is it almost here. I think there are pockets in our Nation already in a depression. I do not see it getting better, just being realistic, but still hoping that government know what the he** they are doing. I wonder what it would be like for some of our representatives were "layed-off" for awhile with no pay and no health care benefits like some of the other 4.8 million who gave money to the bailout that was supposed to be used to buy up bad assets, but instead gave the money to banks who used it for vacations and bonus packages. Uncle Sam seems like a mean, backstabbing, evil dude.
Well I'm watching news - you must be dreaming
But if you wake up and watch the news you'll see. No independents and democrats are not behind him, unless of course they are pushing for socialism/communism in this country. Lots of democrats do not say anything, however, as their jobs are in jeapardy. If you did not even hear of the tea parties until that very day then that goes to show you only watch MSNBC and CNN - my goodness girl, you really should switch the station, it was alll over the place for the past couple weeks. Even on this board they were talking bout the tea parties before April 15th.

If you are watching MSNBC and CNN I don't understand how you think you are getting any truth. They are just a bunch of hate-mongering people (not even reporters) who are bitter and hate the other stations because more people are turning them (MSNBC & CNN) off. They don't give any fair coverage. Only their side of it while spreading hate and fear.

Please for your own sanity turn those stations off and watch something else...anything else.
How much time do you spend on both political boards sm
with an opinion to just about every post out there? Seriously. Are you a transcriptionist? Because if you are, you're in the wrong field.
As passionate as you are on our country and all that is going on, you should channel all of this emotional energy towards actually making a difference instead of rebutting every single statement - both Conservative and Liberal, like volunteering for your local conservative chapter or something.
Write a political column.
Run for office.

You spend plenty of time cat fighting when
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Spend at least as much time on pub party rehab
What ails your party has next to noting to do with Obama. I don't suppose anyone should expect republicans to recognize the severity of their own party's schisms, especially since their leader thought the economy was "essentially sound" and barely addressed the subject during the campaign.

I heard a sobering statistic yesterday. Among republicans, only 18% of them support SP as a future party leader. I would not be pinning my hopes on her for 2012. Did you happen to notice how brilliant Obama's campaign organization was. That is what you will be up against in 4 years. I am suggesting that the party needs to figure out how to connect with voters between now and then. You have a wide split within your own ranks. Personally, I think they need to move their platform principles more to the center. You may have different ideas. You need to come up with some new blood, and it's not as though you do not have good candidates down ticket who deserve their party's attention in terms of lifting them up into the national spotlight. If you spend the bulk of your time focused on how much you hate Obama and think you can run a successful campaign based on smear, you will be stuck out again.

This in no way implies you should not question him, but if all you have is attacks and offer up no alternatives to policies you oppose, you are bound to repeat these election results in 2012. The party needs a makeover. For starters, a central theme might be nice. Here's a clue for you. Putting all you eggs in the right fringe basket and turning a blind eye to the electorate's desire for bipartisan cooperation and solution's oriented diaglog will lead you straight into the dead end you now find yourselves in.

No problem with checks and balances, but may I suggest you spend at least as much time checking your own party's out-of-control free fall?
Watching real news, not MSNBC, or even CNN
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You must spend more time listening to talking heads

I am watching this in real time -- s/m

The whole Christian thing is myth #1; myth #2 is regarding 9/11.  MINDBLOWING!!


About time we got a little good news! nm
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Every time I tune into Faux News I hear
"there's nothing wrong with your TV set.  Do not attempt to adjust the picture.  We are now controlling the transmission."   
Get over yourself. He was on vacation.
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Actually, he really was on vacation.
Rode bikes and had barbecues, sounds like vacation to me. Played a few rounds of golf in the morning on the day he was scheduled to go to Mississippi to survey the damage. Then Rove instructs the MSM to keep playing up the fact he cut his vacation short - what a lying hoot! He didn't cut one minute short. He went back to Washington on the day he was SCHEDULED to come back - on Wednesday, the same day Sheehan planned to leave Crawford. Just shows how desperate they are to try to fool the people into believing that he actually gives a fig, that they have to lie like that to cover up his apathy.

Heck, this perpetually vacationing president is a joke worldwide - even Hugo Chavez knows the scoop. No one has forgotten how he left another vacation - flew immediately from Crawford in the middle of the night no less! - for and EMERGENCY session of Congress (which was actually two people) to address the Schiavo situation. Taking political advantage perhaps? We think so. Hundreds of thousands dead and dying ain't worth a rush back to Washington where America expects its president to be. I don't care how you try to spin it - it looks BAD. And everyone is noticing.
vacation
Hey Big Bad - I agree with you most of the time - and I will miss your posts. Hope you have a wonderful vaction.
Vacation, yeah right
No president ever takes a vacation.

Now let's talk about the rest of Washington, D.C. where all the congress and senate are on vacation, but because Bush moves the operation to the Oval Office South you think he's drinking umbrella-ed drinks and getting massages. Not even close.
You like that phrase it seems. He WAS on vacation. sm
I don't know where you have been but he has been making speeches about the Hurricaine all weekend before it even hit and pledged support, etc.  So obviously, he may have been officially on vacation, but he wasn't in any way.  Do you watch TV.  He's been all over it.  Get over your own bad self.
Stumped about where to go on vacation?

Problem solved!  Grab your passports, pack up the kids and go to The Other Iraq where there are less than 200 coalition troops stationed!  Guaranteed fun time for all.


(Click on The Other Iraq at bottom of page, 512K worked well on my computer.)


http://www.theotheriraq.com/


That is his vacation home
Or should I say his $10 million retreat in New Hampshire. His legal residence is a big colonial in Massachusetts. You know, the one where he had the illegal immigrants doing his lawn work. I actually voted for McCain today just so I could vote against this guy.
means he went on vacation ...
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vacation in Pakistan?

Now I'm starting to worry . . .


 


Have a good vacation
I don't think I ever agree with you on politics, but I always agree with you on religion. I always like a stimulating conversation (or argument if it leads to that) HA HA.

Everyone deserves a good vacation so have yourself a good time.
Enjoy your vacation......and as a poster down below said.....
I may not agree with your postings all the time, but I love reading them.

Hope you have nice weather if you are going a long distance.
Did the NYT try to 'out Cheney and Rumsfelds vacation homes?' sm
Right wingers must only not believe in conspiracy theories when they are brought up by what they percieve as the left. Because many of them believe the NYT is conspiring with al-Queda against America.

Yeah.

I first saw the vacation homes of John Kerry and Pres Bush on VH1. I think they had Cheneys on there too during the 2004 presidential campaign. Were these treasonous acts as well. Come on, the VP, Rumsfeld and their wives shopping spots are not top secret information. If these folks were not so serious about this, it would be funny.
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Taken from DemocraticUnderground.com

Yes, the right is actually accusing the NYT of deliberately trying to get Rumsfeld and Cheney offed. Yesterday the Times published a perfectly innocuous fluff piece in their Friday Escapes section about the town of St. Michael's where R and C both have summer homes. It showed (gasp) photos of the driveway entrances to both houses. It was a typical travel type article, full of information about crabcakes and bed and breakfast establishments, but the idiots across the right wing web are in full howl, spurred on by the loathsome David Horowitz who wrote an article in front page magazine, accusing the NYT of giving directions to Jihadists so that they could assasinate Cheney and Rumsfeld. (Let me add, that I've read dozens of pieces about the Cheney Rumsfeld home purchases in the last year. The NYT hardly broke new ground with this article)

This full bore attack on the NYT is looking more and more orchestrated. Alas, a fair number of people on the left persist in believing that the NYT is an apparatus of the administration.

I find this unrelenting attack on the Times, and by extension on ALL of the press, more than a little disturbing, and wonder if it's not a harbinger of dangerous restrictions on the first amendment.
Yeah, just heard today he decided to cut his vacation short to deal with the
huricaine. Sheesh.
Tax and spend...

but not in that order


"I think at this point there needs to be a focus on an immediate increase in spending and I think this is a time when deficit fear has to take a second seat . . . I believe later on there should be tax increases. Speaking personally, I think there are a lot of very rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of the money."
-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008


Neither can I. I'm going to spend it
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He never seems to explain how he will spend the
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SHE did not spend it, GOP did. - see message
I take great issue with the fact that we have some serious problems in America (unemployment/lost jobs, housing crisis, war, etc) and everyone is focused on where and how much was spent on Palin and families clothes. Hooey is what I say! (sorry don't know how to spelly hooey(who-ee)). Everyone is focused on money. Money, money, money. That's all anyone cares about. Obama is picked and everyone is praising the democratic choice because he is not someone who has been in Washington for centuries like the other. Palin is picked and republicans are critized that she has not been around for centuries. Obama has no experience and that's okay "we need a fresh face with new ideas". Palin is picked who has experience and people chose to ignore that. So everyone wants people who have money in the white house and she is critized for not having enough. Everyone is into the "image". Palin and her family do not live like the high-fallutin (sp?) washington beurocrats do. They don't spent thousands of dollars on clothing. But because "image" is what everyone wants, the GOP buys them clothes. God knows she's made fun of for everything else. She already answered the question. SHE did not buy clothes, etc for her and her family. The GOP did. She has no use for those clothes and they either have been or will be returned. As for people going after her to "verify" this. I think that story is a bunch of crapola! I don't believe it. I have not seen a credible source to verity they haven't returned the items. This is probably like that anonymous coward who is trying to stir up trouble by saying Gov. Palin lost the election for the republicans. Gov. Palin did not lose the election for them. McCain did that all by himself (and GOP for even picking him, and GOP for not picking a different VP candidate). If anything Gov. Palin held it together. Everytime he started diving in the polls she would get out and give speeches and the debate, and his poll numbers would go up. People loved Gov. Palin. Others were just bitter or hateful.

She never "stepped over the limits", because the GOP was the ones who determined that her family had to hold the same image so they did what they needed. The GOP knew very well people would not vote for someone who's family is a jeans & t-shirt type of family. Image. That's all that anyone cares about and if the McCain camp had any chance at all the GOP knew they had to present an image to the public.

She and her family gave everything back. It will be (or has been) verified. People need to stop focusing on this petty insignificant issue and lets move ahead. We will never make this country great if the democrats keep focusing on Gov. Sarah Palin and what has happened in the past. The democrats are always screaming at us stop looking in the past. I read somewhere that this is why the democratic party will fail. Because they don't look ahead, they keep focusing on Palin and keep preferring to kick her while she is down. Leave the lady and her family alone. They've gone back home and you will not have to see them or hear from them again.
LOL. SHE will spend too much in govt?
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We don't have the money to spend.

That's the problem. They have to borrow the money from other countries. If they keep printing money like its going out of style, our money will have no value and you'll be taking a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread...if you can find a loaf of bread.


As you say, what part of that don't you understand?


Totally against. You cannot spend and get
If you were in debt, what are you to do, I guess get more in debt. Then you beg your family and friends to bail you out and now you owe them plus your debt and it get worse and worse. Finally, bankrupt and could be out in the streets.

Well, isn't that what we are doing with Obama in office? Isn't that what we are doing with this stimulus, but now EVERYONE is involved?

By tomorrow, after this new TARP program comes out by our new treasury, we could be about 2 Trillion dollars in debt total, plus the 750 billion from the previous bailout. We need to pay off our debts and not create more!

I agree that cutting taxes may not have helped, but I believe some of us who are in this mess have done it to ourselves (me included). Some wanted a fancy car, better house, nicer things and we bought and bought (not all of us) and now our nation is running and functioning by being in debt.

Took an 8 hour Crown Ministry class and it was incredible. They have a website and they recommend not to call a credit counselor, but to call one of them and guess what, IT IS FREE and they tell you what to say to your creditors and how to set up a budget plan. I am paying off all my debts no matter how hard I work and getting rid of a car and going by a strict budget.

I believe if this stimulus goes through the way it is by spending and spending, well, the ugly head of inflation will appear. I do not want my credit cards to rise to 30-40% interest or have the bank say, cough up the money honey, nor do I want to pay 12.00 for half gallon of milk.
You should take your two cents and spend it on
Badly needed, I'm afraid.
by your logic you think we can spend sm
our way out of debt???????

There is no logic at all to that line of thinking.
Here's how to spend your tax rebate money

How to use the rebate:


As you may have heard the Bush Administration said each and every one of us would now get a nice rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we spend it on gasoline it will all go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will all go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will all go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will all go to Japan, if we purchase useless crap it will all go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy.


We need to keep that money here in America, so the only way to keep that money here at home is to buy prostitutes and beer, since those are the only businesses still in the US.


She can spend all the campaign donations she wants
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Why would anyone with any sense at all spend $500,000 instead of $12.00 if he could settle it...

Makes sense -- spend 500,000 to block all the lawsuits but not 12.00 for your BC.  Where is everyone that was hollering about what was spent on Palin's wardrobe.


 


And I gave him money and he can spend anyway he wants.
I will be watching with great expectations.
It is his money, he can spend it as he chooses.
What do you think would happen to our economy if everyone stopped spending money? The purpose of Georgie Porgie's stimulus checks were to get everyone out spending money and helping businesses stay afloat.

It takes a lot of nerve telling anyone how to spend their money. That's why it is called "their" money, not yours!
but it is his money to spend as he chooses -
Yes, the economy is horrible, but that does not mean that the people that have money should not spend their money.

I happen to have more money than one of my sisters; however, I don't not spend my money because she cannot afford to spend any.

If he was not spending his personal money on what he chooses, he still would not be giving it to other people to buy cars and pay their mortgages!
Survey: How many hours a day do you spend on these boards? Please?! Thx. nm
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I'd rather eat glass than spend a single minute
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Obama says.. "Show me the money". I will spend it
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Hello. So, the gov prints fiat money to spend

it's way out of this depression.  Let's see if that works for your family.


You lose your job, you have no income, but you spend and spend on your credit cards, up to their max, all 25 of them, thousands of dollars in debt that you will never even be able to pay the interest on, and then the holders of your debt say pay up or we're coming after you, taking your home, everything you own, including your first born.  What do you do then?  Have you spent your way into prosperity or have you spent your way into bankruptcy?


I'm sure you are not trillions and trillions of dollars in debt, and you probably don't have any printing presses to counterfit monopoly money, but if spending your way to posperity will not work in your family, what makes you think it will work with the government?  It can't without dire consequences.


 


 


 


Ah yes, governor Rendel, of the tax and spend branch...
of the Democratic party. I saw where Specter finally changed parties...only a formality, he has voted as a Democrat for years. Obama got elected and he wanted on the train...lol.
Yeah, and his "viable plan" is only to spend trillions
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