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Poor Hillary

Posted By: ermt on 2008-05-27
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So Bill is now coming out saying people are picking on Hillary. 


Oh the poor baby.  Wasn't she the one who said "If you can't stand the heat....."


Whether I like her or not is besides the point.  This is an election and Bill & Hillary need to realize if you want to win you have to work towards it.  It's not going to be handed to you. 


Yes, I realize she is working hard, but so is Barack Obama.  Do you hear him crying when she makes a racial statement about him about how nobody "white" is going to vote for him?


Grow up Bill & Hillary!




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Poor, poor MT. She can't pick a fight with anyone on her own board tonight and must come here to

Poor Poor Rush. Hey, how is AIR AMERICA
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Poor, poor Obama......sm
and I bet you don't think that huge press conference, surrounded by the adoring media masses, pandering to poor me (O) being taken advantage of....you don't believe that was political grandstanding?


Tsk tsk.






Poor man
That poor man, what he went through..I dont know how he survived.
The poor just need to die, right?

I don't know where you live, but where I live, you are better off working. Clinton cut welfare down to a pittance - 40 hr work week for $123 per week. Kids get Medicaid. Ah, can't forget the food stamps - must begrudge these sloths food!


In Nazi Germany, the Jews cooperated in their own destruction; the Nazis found a form of defection that looked to desperate Jews like cooperation, and they boarded the cattle cars. The message of the Contract Republicans seems also to be that the only cooperation we seek from the desperately poor is that they vanish. The message is that we do not care how they do it: die, leave or metamorphose into something else; just don't disturb us on your way out.


I know what it's like to be poor.....
I know what it's like to consider paper towels a luxury. Where Banquet salsbury steak, macaroni and cheese, hotdogs, rice and oatmeal was all I could afford to eat. I see that again in my immediate future due to job loss and illness in my family. If I'm in that 30%? So be it. We'll make it. We always have. I just refuse to worry about it.
Poor kid, he is confused, isn't he?

Poor people are not the only ones
so blaming obesity on the left IS the joke. Rush isn't poor is he? What about Cheney and Rove? I am well aware of the report he was referring to (I read it too) but describing *bloated tummies* and Unicef is sick and I don't see how anyone can call it satire. Further, what difference would it make if the link worked? You jumped to his defense without even knowing what the article said.






And a poor one at that. It bombed.

Poor Judgment
Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
It was the OP who said poor were unintelligent, not me....
I was quoting her. It is ridiculous to state something like that. The best people I know never went past high school and are the smartest people, rich in common sense, I ever hope to meet. Sometimes the best knowledge does NOT come from a book.

Your grampa and hootsy comment is just nasty. I have heard every debate, I watch Obama every time he is on the tube, and he is the master at dodging questions. He never gave an interview to anyone who would ask him hard questions until last month and he has been at this for a year and a half. But you never hear Obama followers say that. Because whatever he says, even if it is beating around the bush, he says the magic words I will punish the rich and give all of you in the middle class a tax cut...and that is all they want to hear. Democrats have been saying that same old stuff for years...when in the past were you much better off than you are right now?

I am actually better off financially now than I ever have been. I have survived both Republican and Democrat administrations and just worked my way up to where I am. I am not rich, but I am comfortable. And Obama is intent on taking that away from me. Don't expect me to be happy he is doing it, or that you are helping him do it. lol.


Have you always been this hateful toward the poor?
such hostility toward the working class you so strongly assert to be defending is dead-end dialog. That 95% IS the "working class", as you call them. I prefer the term income earners. If you had any clue about the true state of this economy, you would realize that not only is the 95% tax cut feasible, it is exactly what we need and it will be coming at exactly the right time when we all need it the most.

I do not live in a universe where taxpayers line up and bend over while they bail out corporate welfare deadbeats and turn a blind eye on themselves and their children. It must be a very dark world you come from where you seem to thrive on the energy it takes to sustain such hatred in your heart for the poor. My sympathies.
Poor is subjective
My mother made less than 10 an hour, raised two children on her own, managed to pay a house note (the house was falling apart but it was ours), pay for a piece of an automobile to get her back and forth to work. We didn't have anything to speak of, but she never took a penny from the government. She wasn't raised that way and it hurts her to this day to watch all those that now live in her neighborhood on HUD, paying as little as they can get by with, when they still bring in more than her.

Her total income for the year is LESS than 12 thousand a year and she still manages to pay her bills. But those neighbors manage to get all the freebies and extras courtesy of my mom while she watches the nice cars in front of their HUD houses, which she can't afford, nice clothes they wear, jewelry hanging all off their necks and arms. Their kids are walking around with EXPENSIVE clothes on their butts and walk the streets up and down, up and down all day long. They are LAZY. THey have been raised to be LAZY. In this day and time it is sad to know there are those adults out there that continue to raise their children to believe they are "entitled". So very sad.

In these cases, they are not poor, but the government would consider them "poor", even though they have more than my mother, who can't get help at all. Now you figure that one out.

And, the one who gets the HUD house lets everybody and his brother live with them, free of charge of course, so it's like one big 'ole party all the time....music blaring, sick disgusting rap crap, throw their trash in the streets, filthy mouthed. It's sickening.

Poor doesn't always equate with lazy. You're right and I hope your daughter can do better somehow. Her husband should be forced to pay for his child and his fair share and she would not have this problem.

Maybe she should get in touch with all those neighbors around my mom. I'm sure they know the system so well they can tell how her to manipulate the system to get whatever she wants.


Poor Joe the Plumber is going to have
to worry about paying taxes. Turns out he doesn't have a plumber's license nor does his employer which is required by the county. No license, no work, no taxes. Poor Joe.
Isn't the poor the ones that get the welfare now?
So what's your complaint? You think they need more? Fine, give them everything you have and we'll call it a day!


They are both in very, very poor taste and should be
taken down.  It is truly amazing what some people will do. 
That poor man wasn't even...

...technically an "employee."  He was a temp, so I guess he wouldn't even get life the insurance benefits that an employee might get.


I hear how the poor are
tumors living off the lifeblood of hardworking Americans. Throw all the immigrants out. But, you berate a woman, who out of obvious desperation poisons herself, because she cannot see her way out of pregnancy. Talk about double standards. You probably support the death penalty, too.
Poor baby...(sm)

Using the term "teabaggers" is rude?  I shouldn't ridicule others with different beliefs?  Give me a break.  You guys have consistently ridiculed anyone who agrees with Obama time and time again on this board, as well as those who just don't agree with you.  Rude?  How about Kool-Aid drinkers, Obamatrons.....you know the list.


The problem with you is that you can dish it out but can't take it.  If you plan on teabagging effectively you might want to consider growing a pair. 


Excuse me if I'm not sympathetic to those poor,

And talk about moral values!  To be more concerned about the profits of a drug company and the fear that the government might "strong arm" them into possibly SAVING THE POPULATION OF AN ENTIRE COUNTRY in a time of WAR is absolutely shameless and reflects a total lack of values.


But that IS the "red" way of thinking, isn't it?  Big business must always come first.


 


Conservatives don't care about the poor...






NOT!


America and the Poor...


Wednesday, September 14, 2005

By Bill O'Reilly















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America and the Poor...
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On the Defensive
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America and the poor, that is the subject of this evening's “Talking Points Memo.”


The aftermath of Katrina has produced a debate over poor Americans. There are about 37 million people living below the poverty line right now. The issue was described this way by Newsweek (search) reporter Evan Thomas (search), a liberal guy but not alone, who writes, Liberals will say [the authorities] were indifferent to the plight of poor African-Americans. It is true that Katrina laid bare society's massive neglect of its least fortunate.


Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower.


In 1996, the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2 percent of the budget and a whopping amount of money. That's why Bill Clinton (search) was called the first black president by some.


However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements, 14.6 percent of the entire budget, a huge increase over Clinton's spending on poverty entitlements.








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So sad..we need a foreign leader to help our poor
Venezuelan heating oil will be distributed to poor
U.S. communities via the
Venezuelan-owned oil company Citgo.
Credit: Venezuelanalysis.com
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http://Venezuelanalysis.com>

Caracas, Venezuela, November 18, 2005—The
Venezuelan-owned and
U.S.-basedfuel refiner and distributor Citgo will
begin distributing discounted heating oil to poor U.S.
communities next week. Rafael Ramirez, Venezuela's
Minister of Energy and Petroleum, made the
announcement yesterday, saying that the measure is
meant to show Venezuela's commitment to disadvantaged
sectors in the United States.

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez had originally
announced the measure last August, while the U.S.
civil rights activist Jesse Jackson was visiting
Venezuela.

The launch of the discounted heating oil program is
meant to coincide with the Thanksgiving holiday and
will benefit communities in poor communities of
Boston, Massachusetts and of the Bronx, New York.

The first phase of the program will begin in Boston
and will provide 4.5million liters (1.2 million
gallons) of heating oil at discounted rates, which
will mean a savings of approximately $10 million.
According to the Venezuelan government, the discounts
will be achieved by eliminating middle-men and
having Citgo deliver the heating oil directly to the
communities.
Accordingly, the plan does not involve any losses to
Citgo itself.

The logistics of the plan will involve non-profit
community organizations, which will help with the
selection of beneficiaries, distribution, and billing.
Heating oil costs are expected to reach historical
heights this year, which means that many poor
households might have to go without heat, despite
limited state programs to subsidize heating oil for
low-income
families.

Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's
state-owned oil company PDVSA and operates five
refineries and licenses 14,000 gas stations throughout
the U.S.


I can hardly think of a poor man who ever ran for president. Lincoln maybe.
My Republican values are just as strong as they ever were.  But I have been disappointed in President Bush at times.  I will stick with him though.  But not without question.
I thought that was in poor taste.
And still think so.
definitely shows poor judgement
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This poor little Sam person is really pathetic. (s/m)
It seems this person's whole identity & self-esteem revolves around monopolizing this little medical transcriptionists' politics forum. Seems like a waste of your time & energy. If you REALLY care so much about your views & your party, instead of wasting your words on an obscure little politics forum, why aren't you out volunteering for your candidates? Your 24/7 comebacks to nearly EVERY post on this board that disagrees with YOUR beliefs suggests that:
a) You have no job.
b) You do not sleep, eat, or go to the bathroom.
c) You absolutely CANNOT let a person with different ideas have the last word.

Therefore, it seems that you would be the ideal choice for ANY political party to be out canvassing your neighborhood, organizing fundraisers, distributing propaganda (um, I mean literature), etc. to support your candidate.

So the question is, if you are such a 'talented' and 'knowlegeable' political afficionado, why do you waste your time & energy here?
Unfortunately, there are not enough people willing to give to the poor!
Greed is rampant in this country and as the greedy saying goes, "charity begins at home." Therefore, something must be done to help those who are unable to help themselves. If people need to be forced to give, so be it. Whether they are blessed for it or not is of no concern to me. Call it whatever you want, I call it human decency!
The truly poor already get money from the taxpayer.
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.....Not very lucky for the poor rabbit.....
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I am so sick of that excuse for the poor....
I don't know where you live but in this town, black children and white children, and some illegals, sit in the SAME classrooms side by side. They all have the opportunity to learn the same information, regardless of their color or financial situation. And, I might add, if it weren't for the "rich" as you put it, though I question your definition of rich, a lot of these children would not have clothes or food, not because they come from poverty but because they have SORRY LOUSY PARENTS. Now, by all means, please tell me how Obama is going to fix that......he going to go in that poor child's home every day and tell their momma to get her butt home from the whorehouse and the bar and take care of her children? He gonna tell their daddy to get off his sorry lazy butt and take care of his children and stop knocking up every girl he can? The children who are not financially well off do have a good thing going for them however. THey have parents who work, get off their lazy butts, and do not feel ENTITLED to my money. They do not think it is the government's place to take care of them, house them, feed them, do their thinking for them. And, I guarantee you they do not want Obama in there because a lot of them feel he is the problem, the "black" leader who thinks he can take care of the problem. Well, unless he wants to come down on the parents for being bums, then I suggest he get he get off that kick. Stop talking about poverty as if those better off are in some way responsible for the poor.

If it weren't for the "better off" around here who own businesses and have the ability to hire, where in the heck do you think the people would work?

RICH is not a bad word. And I can guarantee you if you were rich, you would be singig a different tune as would others who seemingly have a problem with the "rich". They would be laughing all the way to the bank and b*tching for all it's worth if they thought the government wanted their money.
And I'm not talking about poor who have fallen
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I do not hate poor people!

I do, however, have a problem with people who could work but would rather live off of the government.  There are a lot of those kinds of people out there.  They could better themselves but they just won't.  The ones who can't help their situation....I have no problem helping them.  But it is the low life scum sucking weasels who just want handouts that ruin it for the people who truly need help and Obama's plans would just enable these weasels to keep being losers.


All these government plans are gonna cost money and yet Obama is supposed to give us all tax cuts.....where he is going to get that money if he if cutting all of our taxes.  who is footing the bill....huh?  Cuz I sure as sh!t know that Barry Obama isn't gonna pay for it all on his own.


Oh, poor thing.....they need you to protect them
!!
You poor bitter person you
First of all, I am NOT a republican, never have been. Don't worry, I am fully aware of the 401K issue, and I can guarantee you all my eggs are not in one basket. But the ones that are in there sure as heck do not need to be further taxed by Obama for all his entitlement programs.

I too was born to a very poor family and we NEVER took one red dime from the government and I did without plenty. My mother would have lived under a bridge before she accepted money from the government and she was a single mom raising children when my dad died. We had NOTHING before and had nothing afterwards. Now, minimum wage. I know minimum wage. I worked for it all the way through putting MYSELF through college, not the government. My husband who came from a family of 6 children, dirt poor, also worked his OWN way through college and paid his OWN way, not the help of anyone either. He dug ditches, sewers, hauled hay in 100+ degree weather and so many other disgusting jobs you wouldn't touch. Now for those of us who didn't sit on our butts and feel sorry for ourselves, I do not feel sorry for anyone who thinks they are too good to work.

Everyone may not want to go to college but don't criticize those that do. In my county, ANYONE, ANYONE who graduates from a school in this county gets two years FREE college education.....ANYONE. Know how many take advantage of that? Not everyone that could. They're too lazy to make the effort and word hard. I suppose you have an excuse for that too. You better believe if they are making minimum wage then, it's their own fault. They had as much opportunity to better themselves as the kid sitting next to them in school. They just want a free ride because so many see their familities getting one. What's the motivation really!? No, you can't take it with you but the people savoring it as you put it should be the ones who actually work for it, not the freeloaders.

Sorry you think ONLY republicans are smart enough to educate themselves and make a living for themselves. How said for you. I'm independent....those can make their own way too!!

But you're right,everyone will be in for a big shock with Obama draining their wallets. Even the minimum wage earners are going to whining and b@tching and who they gonna blame then? I'm sure they'll find someone besides Obama though.

So get off your pity pot and grow up.....stop living in your past. THat's the problem with all our young people now. They didn't live it but they sure have plenty of people around them who raise them to feel sorry for themselves instead of motivating them to go as far as you can.
Don't worry - he's for helping us poor MTs
NM
If that was a joke, it was in very poor taste!
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Yeah, they have been in the news for poor
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What about all those poor dead sperm?
Every time an egg is fertilized we should have millions of tiny graves, one for every sad little sperm that didn't make it.


NOBODY IS TALKING TO YOU,, YOU POOR POODLE TO 'M"..nm
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better a poor MT than an irrational fool


The poor are making out like bandits!

 Struggling States Cut Healthcare for Poor

by: Noam N. Levey, The Los Angeles Times


States are slashing health services to their poorest residents amid the economic downturn. (Photo: Owen Franken / Corbis)



    The unprecedented reductions come as millions are losing their jobs and insurance. They are so steep that the federal rescue package may not be able to revive them.

    Washington - Even as President-elect Barack Obama plans an ambitious push to expand health coverage nationwide, states are slashing health services to their poorest residents amid the economic downturn.

    The unprecedented cuts in public assistance come as millions of Americans are losing their jobs and health insurance.

    In many cases, the cuts are so deep that even the massive federal rescue package being assembled on Capitol Hill may not be enough to restore services being eliminated in the burgeoning crisis, health officials warn.

    And the faltering economy has all but killed trailblazing state campaigns to expand coverage for the working poor - once seen as hopeful signs for national health care reform.

    Illinois' senior citizens are facing the traumatic prospect of being moved from nursing homes teetering on the edge of bankruptcy as the homes wait for months to be paid by the floundering state government.

    South Carolina has cut treatment for low-income women under 40 with breast or cervical cancer and stopped providing nutritional supplements for people with kidney failure.

    In southern Nevada, cancer patients without health coverage no longer have a place to get chemotherapy after the state's largest public hospital stopped providing outpatient oncology services.

    "This is exactly the time when we should be beefing up services," said Anthony Wright, executive director of Health Access California, a leading consumer advocacy group. "Instead, we are unraveling the safety net to the point where it may not be possible to stitch it back together again."

    Congressional Democrats hope to begin offering some help today, as the House takes up legislation to expand the popular State Children's Health Insurance Program, a top priority of the incoming administration.

    The expansion, which could extend coverage to an additional 4 million low-income children, was vetoed twice by President Bush in 2007, but is expected to easily win approval now.

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are also at work on a stimulus package that could include as much as $100 billion to bail out Medicaid, the primary federally funded health program for the poor administered by the states.

    That aid package is expected to require states to maintain some of the medical services currently on the chopping block, though it may come too late to reverse many cuts already made.

    Lawmakers plan additional assistance to help Americans keep their health insurance if they lose their jobs.

    But even some congressional leaders concede the help will be insufficient. "Let's be honest," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), a close Obama ally. "We won't be able to save every soul here."

    At least 44 states are facing budget shortfalls over the next two years totaling more than $350 billion, according to a recent survey by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal Washington-based think tank.

    Unable to run deficits like the federal government, states have been scrambling for months to cut aid to schools, universities and, increasingly, residents who rely on the state for medical care.

    Nationwide, roughly 60 million low-income people -- half of them children -- use the Medicaid program to get some form of healthcare, including basic physician services, prescription drugs, X-rays, dental care and even hospice care.

    Some of those services are now in jeopardy.

    Florida is poised to cut its home services for poor senior citizens, such as bathing and meal preparation, as nearly 19,000 seniors in the state are on a waiting list to get the care rather than be sent to nursing homes.

    Utah lawmakers are looking at cutting public health programs and eliminating coverage for about 20,000 low-income people who rely on the state-funded Utah Primary Care Network.

    "The scale of this is unprecedented," said AARP Vice President Elaine Ryan, who has spent nearly three decades working on health policy at the state and federal level. "I really have never seen anything like this."

    Some states have tried to avoid cuts in services by delaying or reducing payments to doctors and other medical providers who treat low-income patients.

    This is taking a toll, however, as a growing number of providers stop treating those with state-funded insurance.

    Nevada's largest county closed its outpatient oncology clinic last year, citing decreases in Medicaid funding for treating low-income cancer patients.

    Now, advocates in Las Vegas are having to counsel patients to look at getting care by moving to other states where they have relatives.

    "We're essentially creating medical refugees," said Stacey Gross, community programs manager at Susan G. Komen for the Cure of Southern Nevada.

    Melvin Siegel, who operates five nursing homes serving some 400 seniors around Springfield, Ill., said he is close to closing because of slow payments from the state.

    Nursing homes, which rely heavily on Medicaid, often don't have the option of rejecting patients on public assistance.

    "There is no place to go," said Siegel, 79, who said he has borrowed against his home, life insurance and retirement savings to keep in business. "If this falls apart, I'll be penniless. . . . It's never been this bad."


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That must be why they're still poor....Geezzz!
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Awww...poor Obama.

Let's all just give him a free pass and not hold him accountable for the stupid crap he signs while in office because he is black.  boohoo!  Cry me a river.  You can't criticize him because that is racist.  You can't disagree with him because that is racist. 


Personally....I think this whole "stimulus" package is stupid and therefore anyone who wrote it, voted for it, or signed the bill, IMO, is as dumb as monkey.  That is my take on the cartoon.  obama's stupidity has nothing to do with the fact he is black.  It is the fact that once again our government is spending billions of dollars that we don't have for something that will not work. Doesn't take a lot of brains to fling poo like monkeys do and as far as I"m concerned this bill is nothing but the government flinging poo at us. 


The poor are spending money, sure

but they didn't earn that money.  That money could be used for education or healthcare instead of making sure poor people circulated it.  I'm middle class.  I have been a single mom since my son was born, no Welfare, he is 19 now.  I have NEVER asked for a handout.  Are you telling me that I don't spend money?  I have paid for everything I have.  I own a house and I haven't even received 1 dime in child support.  I barely make it, but I do make it and I work my butt off to do it.  It isn't fun, but who are you to tell me that I would spend more money and boost the economy more if I was on Welfare instead.  My son didn't grow up with a Welfare mom and I'm sure he won't get mad at me for not helping the ecomony because of it.  He doesn't even know I'm broke.  For him, there is a sense of pride in earning.  He is in college now and excited to be among the working class because he was never taught there was any other way, you WORK.  He will get a student loan, which he will have to pay back someday.  This isn't free money.  He did get a Pell grant, so I guess he got a little bit of a handout, but to qualify for that, you still have to do something, go to school.  The Pell grant is less than what most people get for Welfare and they don't have to do anything at all.  Seriously?  Poor people make this country work, who knew?  And here I thought this country was built on the sweat and tears of the middle class and the hard working folks who believed in capitalism and not socialism. 


So if my neighbor gives me a $1000 bucks and I go spend it, does that mean I helped my neighbor?  Do I have to pay him back?  Just curious. 


I did not say welfare people - I said the poor -
I am sorry, but I consider most single parents poor - myself included. I do not think that 25,000-30,000 makes me middle class - I call that poor in this day and time. It sure as heck ain't getting my any frills in this life...

I am saying that the more money people have right now though, the more they are saving because they are worrying. The poor people with the lower paying jobs have nothing to lose anyway, so why save what they get? I am not saying it is right, but at this point, they are the ones that are out buying the big screen TVs, the cars, the stereos, the game systems, because they are the ones getting the big fat checks back...

those of us who are the working poor are spending our money on bills and necessities and saving just in case and therefore we are not stimulating the economy as much...

That is what I am saying!
Poor thing....... wonder where Obama's little tax
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Why would you do that to poor widdle Michael
He wouldn't survive a visit with Sarah Palin. She knows how to field-dress a moose, remember. She'd get that bag of lard in her sights and shortly the world would be a better, sweeter place.
Ha! Poor little gay kids...... BULL
I grew up with a gay guy in my neighborhood since first grade. And I have to tell you he was the smart arsed kid on the block. He couldn't keep his mouth SHUT for anything. He had one smart mouthed comment after another to make to everyone!!

HE is the one with no tolerance, just a little wimpy smart mouth who by the way did get his butt kicked on a few occasions but back then, we didn't see "gay" or anything of that sort. We saw a smart mouthed kid who couldn't keep his mouth shut. Believe me, there are just as many "INTOLERANT" gay kids out there. Too bad they're not teaching them tolerance!!

The only tolerant kids were the ones who weren't gay!! We let him hang around regardless and he was welcomed to play or whatever, but he was such a sissy he just ran his mouth and put down everybody. Maybe his parents should have taught him tolerance!

What a hypocrit you are!
Awwww...poor terrorists.

We should cuddle them and give them all teddy bears so they don't get scared in their cells at night.


Once again, terrorists do no fall under the Geneva Convention as they are ......uh.....terrorists.  I am so sick and tired of this BS and the crying and whining of the treatment of terrorists especially when they want us all dead. 


Poor little gay and lesbians....got all irked and
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Hillary

I've actually been thinking of voting for her if she runs.  A year ago, I couldn't stand her.  I don't know if she's changed or if I've changed, but what I mostly think it is, is that the further right the neocons go, the further toward center she seems to wind up.


As far as respect, let's see... She has the ability to articulately and intelligent form SENTENCES using the English language.  That in and of itself is worthy of much more respect than what we've currently got.


She seems to have enormous strength without being a bully.  I can't recall her telling the rest of the world to "Bring it on." 


I'm somewhere between being a Democrat and Republican.  I tend to vote for someone because of issues, not because of party affiliation.  I've registered as an Independent because of that, and I'm glad I did because these days of Republicans and skyrocketing deficits, increasing intrusion of government into the personal lives of American citizens, etc. leaves me wondering just what Republican and Democrat means any more.


Republican seems to now mean a particular, narrow brand of Christianity (rather than a brand of politics), lying as a regular and customary part of doing business with the American people and the world, destroying the lives of people who disagree with them, completely stalling and bringing science to a screeching halt, forcing regime change on weaker countries through war, while showing weakness and backing down from true threats, such as North Korea.


And Democrats -- well, I just don't know any more what they stand for.


Again, as far as Hillary is concerned, she left a bad taste in my mouth when she seemed to put down stay-at-home moms with her comment about choosing her career over staying home and "having teas."  I feel being a mother is probably the most important job there is, and I didn't appreciate that comment.  However, recently she's looking a lot better to me.


I also would like to see more from Giuliani.  I think he demonstrated excellent leadership during the 9/11 tragedy, and he seems to be more moderate when it comes to the personal lives of people.


My DREAM President would have been Colin Powell.  I can't recall seeing such grace, dignity and intelligence in a politician.  He also has firsthand combat experience in foreign lands and might not be so hasty to jeopardize soldiers' lives as someone who didn't have the guts to put his own life on the line yet seems to find the lives of our young people readily disposable for nation building, rather than defending America.


I truly don't think we can do any WORSE than what we have now.  If we can just all hold our breath and tread lightly, we just might be able to survive the next three years, not because of this president but IN SPITE of him. 


Hillary just might be someone who would actually put Americans' safety and America, in general, FIRST.  Wouldn't that be a nice change?