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Ruling on Ohio voter fraud.....hmmmmm

Posted By: interesting......sm on 2008-10-09
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Google voter fraud 2000, voter fraud 2004 and
The pubs have been down this road before.
Voter fraud by democrats ...sm
Being a big problem is a huge myth put forth by repubs. Don't believe Fox News and the like. Just Google it. The extent of the problem has been wildly exaggerated. (I wish I could find the link I had on this because it was nonpartisan, but I didn't save it.)

Now if you want to talk about voter suppression fraud OTOH, the Repubs are experts on that. Here's one article:

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Using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, the GOP has propagated the myth of voter fraud to purge the rolls of non-Republicans.

Read it at:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting
O is not under investigation for voter fraud
First of all, "voter fraud" is a bit hard to prove BEFORE the election. ACORN has been targeted by right-wingers for the past 38 years, since the day of its inception. While I do not condone it, this comes as no surprise that poverty-stricken workers who are paid by the signature and have quotas would turn in falsified statements. Barack Obama did not tell them to do that.

Nobody is swallowing anything, including your deluded ramblings. Those soup kitchen patrons, rock concert audiences and homeless are American voters with much more human dignity than you are able to display. We do not live under a Nazi fascist system. Their votes are equal to yours.

The kind of hatred you hold says a lot about you. You have a flock mentality. Original thought or ideas are beyond our grasp. It takes a lot of energy to harbor that kind of hate. Your life will be cursed until you let that go, and your campaign will be doomed to failure if you give Americans so little credit as to think that anyone in their right mind would want to join you and subscribe to such trash.

By the way, just how is McCain going to fix that pesky economic crisis you are trying so diligently to avoid acknowledging?
Voter fraud does not register with SS# and
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The purpose of investigating voter fraud...sm
It is not to be able to go back and forth, but to get to the core of the problems and solve them. On this board, you will see articles about voter fraud against liberal voters. That's not saying it doesn't happen on both sides, but which do you think WE are concerned about.
Acorn voter fraud in Detroit...
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383
Google ACORN and voter fraud....
they have a political arm who Democrats use to register new Democratic voters. Problem is, they use illegal tactics to do so. Four under indictment in Missouri from 2006; right now Detroit is investigating voter fraud because of fraudulent registrations, all submitted by ACORN.

Obama used to be their lawyer back in Chicago. He trained their operatives during annual conventions. That is a matter of record. He failed to publish $800,000 in donations from them, recently corrected by his campaign.
Explain what you want fixed? The voter fraud
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I am ready to talk voter fraud with a pub
You can cry wolf 'til the cows come home on this, but it's not going to change those poll numbers except maybe in a downward direction. People are fixated on the one topic your candidate refuses to talk about. Your smear campaign is so intense that we all have smear fatigue by now and even if you could dig up any sort of legitimate attack, nobody outside the choir is listening. Don't you get that?
So voter fraud in ང doesn't count?
Voter fraud of this organization is only the tip of the problem. This is a corrupt organization in so many other ways, it should be very troubling to everyone but because so many of you who want Obama in office regardless of the consequences don't even want to hear the involvements he is in, is the very reason we are on a path of ignorance.

This organization is involved in so much garbage it should be shut down altogether and probably will after the election but as long as Obama is still in the running, no democrat wants to actually go after them for obvious reasons. But even the democrats will go after them when the election is over. Many of them despise this group.
One that doesn't care if it takes voter fraud to
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Pubs wrote the book on voter fraud.
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ACORN bribing voter fraud with cigarettes
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Obama campaign launches voter fraud web site

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-campaign-launches-voter-fraud-web.html


 


 


Supreme Court Ruling.
 I almost fainted when I read ***Supreme Court Finds Bush Overstepped his Authority** in relation to the military tribunals.  This being a very conservative court with 2 Bush appointees I have just felt that whatever was on the table would have a conservative outcome. I am shocked.  What does anyone else think?
So because Snopes says so it is truth. Why not have a judge look at it and make the ruling?
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The court has decided. The plaintiff just doesn't like the ruling. nm
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Hmmmmm....(sm)

I was reading some of the posts below about the white house silverware.  In response to the idea that Bush would probably take whatever he wanted, I was shocked to see that what I would guess is a REPUBLICAN actually posted this statement about Bush:


*Just because you say that's what he'll do, doesn't make it so.*


Does anyone else notice anything odd about this comment?  LOL.


Hmmmmm....... sm
Being saved does not give one license to sin without reprecussions. Conversely, once a person recieves Christ and commits their life to Him, they are to repent or turn away from their sinful life. Even more, a Christian should not want to sin because of the precious gift that was given for his salvation. However, with all this said, it is true that we will continue to sin because we are human, but we do have forgiveness for those sins because when Jesus went to the cross, He went bearing the sins of the whole world, past, present and future.

Now, I have a question for you.....how is it that you claim to believe in Jesus and the trinity but in a post above proclaim yourself to be a heathen? To openly proclaim oneself to be a heathen does not jell with the proclamation of knowing Christ.
No, gourdpainter...it's gonna be Obama ruling....make no mistake....
Obama and the democratic congress.

I think it's highly doubtful Hillary will pass muster to be SOS, since Bill has too many shady dealings with China and the Saudis, and who knows who else he has taken/is taking money from, and selling our national secrets to (or did, in the case of China with our military secrets).

As for Bush, don't know how you get him thrown in the equation, unless someone named Bush has been appointed....I'm working too much to pay close attention...


But, as I said, make no mistake. No matter who Obama appoints, it's gonna be him and his socialist/marxist agenda....Obama and his far left agenda to the max.....


I'm hiding for the next four years......
My response is to Hmmmmm.

 who hates cats, blah blah blah and the woman accuser/suer who insists that the cat be euthanized. I don't think the owner was the one who brought this to the public forum. There are many things that can be done other than killing the cat as the first and only measure. I read that the cat was being kept confined to home but this was not okay with the accuser. She wants the cat euthanized, nothing less. So.......the extremes I see are a woman who will not agree to consider compromise and another person who hates cats because they behave as they have been designed by the Almighty to behave. I do agree that those who drop off animals somewhere rather than take them to the pound fit into the dangerous category (no pun intended) as well. It makes me wonder how they treat their kids or neighbors. These are the cats who become a nuisance. It takes one generation for a cat to become feral and in order to survive they hunt for prey....also not a rocket scientist level deduction. These cats carry disease because of the prey they kill and the fact that no one is taking care of them so they obviously are not vetted. Usually these cats would rather walk on broken glass than even approach a human and that is 1 good thing. But again, it is the people, not the animals, who are the culprits.  Lewis, the cat in question, however, can be kept housebound. The cat can be declawed and defanged (cruel and unusual punishment but it is done and I suppose it is better than being dead). The cat can be medicated...also just a better-than-dead solution.  People who feel extremely negative towards animals and would just as soon kill them as look at them as a viable and even desirable solution are those Francis, Kant, Gandhi and I are referring to. I could go into the serial killer thing but I'm sure you know that.


evidence.......hmmmmm
Not everyone who believes in Jesus Christ learned so as a child. They were taught nothing as a child, let alone indoctrinated/brainwashed as you think. They came to know Jesus as an adult, while all the time questioning, denying, wondering, finding fault with everything God stands for.....you name it. There are many children in the Christian family who do not grow up to believe they were brainwashed and some that do. They question the Lord, which is exactly what God says to do.....to question Him. If you don't believe, then ask Him. So many don't and why?....because I think they're afraid they might get an answer. Then what would they do? You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Sometimes the evidence is right in front of us...we just fail to believe. Why do you think Jesus said to have faith the size of a mustard seed?
Hmmmmm...who was it told us to go
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Hmmmmm. forgot this one?
Quran 47:4 ''Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them)''

of course, it doesn't say when they "fight" you, cut their heads off.... it says when you "meet them".

Very telling.....
Hmmmmm, interesting. Also see link inside
It's quite long but worth reading. How many high-profile conservatives with ties to Reagan and Bush 1 have to jump ship for something meaningful to happen? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');

http://www.dallasobserver.com/Issues/2006-02-16/news/feature_full.html
Ohio
At any time of day or night, you can see a McCain add followed by an Obama add or vice versa. November 4th cannot come soon enough!!!
I am in ohio
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SE Ohio
I haven't seen any local or area news today, but ours isn't until this evening, so there'll probably be more coverage on the 6 and 11 o'clock news.

Do you live in Ohio?
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And if you did live in Ohio - sm
You might be able to vote three or four times. :)
Ballot in Ohio.....sm
This should really raise some concerns. I wonder if there are any Ohio posters on this forum????

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=40477
Unless you live in Ohio and had to put up
with the crap that Taft was throwing out and saw first hand what Kenneth Blackwell did against his own party to try to make things right, you really can't make any kind of judgment calls. He's a good man, one of the very few left in politics these days, and I wish there were more like him. And yes, I do live in Ohio.
I'm really surprised in Ohio...
I figured Brown would vote yes, but am surprised Voinovich voted no - he's very much a RINO. I guess he figures he's got nothing to lose now that he's decided not to run for reelection.
Come on Ohio!!! Where's the money!!

Gov. Strickland’s Plan for Ohio a Blueprint for America’s Energy Future?


With oil hovering at $40 a barrel, and the price of gasoline nose-diving from all-time highs, do you think the worst-case scenario is behind us?
We are fooling ourselves if we think we can survive under our present system. Those are short-term numbers, and they are not encouraging to any of us. OPEC has already made it clear through production cuts that it is going to do everything in its power to get the price of a barrel of oil back up again.


So you’re saying we can’t afford to sit still?
Ohio can’t. Manufacturing is a vital component of our state’s economy. As a consequence our state uses an enormous amount of energy. Like America and its dependence on foreign oil, we are a net energy importer, which is why we are moving as quickly as possible to develop alternative energies. We have to.

What sort of steps is Ohio taking?

Last year the Ohio Legislature passed an electricity restructuring bill that has some of the strictest requirements in the country for developing electrical power from alternative energy sources. That’s the sort of signal investors want and need so they can commit capital and invest in alternative energies.


What other energy sources are being developed in Ohio?
I am personally a big supporter of nuclear power. Ohio was in the running and a finalist for a new nuclear plant being developed by Areva, the French nuclear power giant. We didn’t get that one, but there will be others to come. We have already taken big steps forward with clean coal technology. That’s a must for us because Ohio generates 95 percent of its electrical power from coal. I’ve also participated in several meetings with MTorres, a Spanish company, in Ohio as well as in Spain, about developing a wind farm on Lake Erie. What a great opportunity for us to make the most of such a significant natural and renewable resource. And our state is a leader in solar energy.


Ohio? Solar energy? That’s produced in the desert, not in the Midwest.
But how is harnessed? Come to Ohio and we’ll show you how. The Toledo area is one of world’s leading centers for solar research and development. To begin with I’ll tell you about First Solar, which is a publicly traded company that is one of the fastest growing manufacturers of solar modules in the world. The company is less than 10 years old and is already a leader in clean affordable energy.


Xunlight is another Toledo-area company that is a major solar panel producer. The company is a spin-off from the University of Toledo and was started by a young doctor, Xunming Deng. Xunlight manufactures microthin, three-foot wide solar panels that can be produced in sheets up to a mile long. They are completely portable and can be rolled up, transported, and easily installed.


And when investors tried to lure Dr. Deng overseas to set up production for Xunlight in a lower cost market, he said, “No. The University of Toledo took a chance on me, and now I’m going to stick by them.


From employment opportunities to increased funding in higher education and a broader tax base, that’s going to pay huge dividends.
I am convinced that renewable energies and developing the technology that powers them have the potential to be a major answer to the current economic challenges our country now faces. Anyone who needs proof can come to Ohio.


Gov. Strickland of Ohio...
can't wait to get his hands on that money. He's been talking about how he's gonna spend it since before it even passed.
NE Ohio - big turnout - on my

8,000 in Dayton, Ohio!
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Obama leads in Ohio

win Ohio, win the election.


 


Ohio is already starting to vote
Just heard on the news that in Ohio they have already starting holding the election and people can vote for president.  I don't know who this benefits and don't care at this point, but I thought election day was 11/4.  Can someone explain why people are allowed to vote ahead of time.
LOL. I am in Ohio. ACORN is blatantly asking
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Exactly. And the fact that the governor of Ohio...
ordered a background check on him is a violation of his civil rights and he should sue him. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Yep still in Ohio and you're still wrong sm

Guess we play by different rules down here. Ya'll come down and see us some time.


I don't know where you found your info, but here is info I found at this website under food stamps fact sheet:  http://jfs.ohio.gov/families/food/index.stm


Doesn't say anything about being taxable or not and definitely does not specifically forbid soda.


What can be bought with food stamp benefits?


Food stamp benefits can be used to buy most food or food products intended for human consumption. Items which


may not be purchased with food stamps include alcoholic beverages, tobacco, hot food and hot food products


that are prepared to be eaten immediately. Individuals who receive food stamp benefits may not sell or trade food


stamp benefits, buy nonfood items or use food stamp benefits to buy food for someone who is not a member of


the household.


 


Yep, in Ohio here. Unemployment problem still
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Ohio War Veteran Running for Senate... sm

Hackett has his work cut out for him, but I hope the vets keep running. It is a good sign of potential changes in the WH soon.


Ohio War Veteran Running for Senate




By DAN SEWELL
The Associated Press
Monday, October 24, 2005; 2:54 PM



CINCINNATI -- Paul Hackett, the Democratic veteran of the Iraq war who narrowly lost a special election in a heavily Republican congressional district in August, made his official entry into a U.S. Senate race Monday.


He faces a tough Democratic primary with Rep. Sherrod Brown in the race for the nomination to challenge second-term Republican incumbent Sen. Mike DeWine next year.







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Paul Hackett, the Democratic veteran of the Iraq war who narrowly lost in a special election in a heavily Republican congressional district in August, announces his candidacy for the U.S. Senate, Monday, Oct. 24, 2005, at his home in Cincinnati, Ohio. (AP Photo/Al Behrman) (Al Behrman - AP)











Hackett's only political experience is a stint as a small-city councilman.


I'm asking all the people of this great state, regardless of political affiliation, to consider my message and to consider joining me in the fight to take back our government from the career politicians and their special interest support groups who have hijacked our government, he said as he announced his campaign at his home in suburban Indian Hill.


Hackett decided to run for Congress earlier this year after completing a seven-month tour of duty in Iraq as a Marine reservist. That special election in southern Ohio's seven-county 2nd District was to replace Rep. Rob Portman, who left his seat to become the U.S. trade representative.


Hackett won the Democratic nomination, then battled Republican Jean Schmidt, a former state legislator, in a campaign in which he linked her to embattled Republican Gov. Bob Taft while sharply criticizing President Bush's handling of the war.


Schmidt won on Aug. 2 with 52 percent of the vote, though Portman had consistently won re-election in the district with more than 70 percent and Bush had carried it in 2004 with 64 percent.


Hackett's strong showing in a state that was a pivotal presidential battleground solidified the attorney as a likely 2006 candidate for Congress or statewide office.


After Hackett decided to oppose DeWine, Hackett was irked when Brown, with three decades of elective politics behind him, decided he also would run.


Brown, a former state legislator and Ohio secretary of state, is in his seventh congressional term, representing northeastern Ohio's 13th District. He's expected to officially launch his Senate race in early November.


Brown said Monday he initially didn't plan to run because of family reasons, but changed his mind with his family's encouragement. He said he wasn't expecting the race for the May 2 primary to damage his chances of defeating DeWine in the general election.


I've had primaries before, Brown said. It makes me a stronger candidate.


I'm in Ohio. It's aimed at college students for O.
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Actually, it was the Ohio State Supreme court, not...
the Supreme Court of the United States. That was then appealed to the 6th US Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the state supreme court ruling.

I guess that puts you and Sarah on about the same footing as far as the Supreme court?

Just asking.
FYI. Joe the unlicensed required to be licensed in Ohio.
Joe the unlicensed's 15 minutes has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics of Ohio, who claimed that Joe didn’t undergo any apprenticeship training. "When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it’s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We’re the real Joe the Plumber." "This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he’s never been to a training program, union or nonunion, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said. Working for a licensed plumber does not quite cut it.

Wondering if your husband has read Obama's plan for small business, for example the Making Work Pay tax credit (not a rate cut, a direct tax credit)? There is a lot of information there under issues and subheading economics. There is a section there on small business. Not a good idea to buy into the spreading the wealth mantra without that information.

The exposure of Joe the Plumber as a sham makes one raise the question of his autheticity and the possibility of his being a McCain campaign plant at that rally. The bigger picture on this is that Joe himself is being exploited by McCain's campaign (currently not something he is enjoying, having lost his privacy) in their assertions that they will look after the interests of the working class. Flies in the face of the fact that McCain himself has not even spoken the phrase middle class out of his own mouth. The "welfare" rhetoric characterizing spread the wealth as socialism sounds a bit hostile toward the middle class...the economic class of most small business owners he claims to be so concerned about.
I heard that too, in Ohio, one of the many states of Acorn
They will try to steal the election.
There are some that have voted in Ohio...i.e.....the student back in

Just curious...is it true that in Ohio there is no law against voting more than once? nm
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Excuse me! Get the facts. I live in Ohio. sm
In Ohio one can buy soda with food stamps.  Obviously the rules aren't the same everywhere.