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Sadly, the haters started to hate him way before he even took office....sm

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-21
In Reply to: Tax Cuts - Dollars and Sense

I have mixed views here, but I found it amazing, as I read this board around election time, and then shortly thereafter, that all the Bushwackers and Right Wingers were already condemning and DOOMING the Obama administration....way before the man even took the oath of office! Now George had 8+ years to do good for this country, to help the economy, the reach out to the poor, to upgrade the educational system, and what did his administration do? Let's see, instead of getting Bin Ladin, we spend billions and billions, and thousands of precious lives, on a war with Iraq for those infamous invisible WMDs which no one could find, and which was reported to the President ahead of time. We have made most of the world hate us for our arrogance and stupidity. He let Wall Street run amok and watched the country go down in ashes....stop bashing Obama, no he is not God, he is not perfect, he has faults, he will make mistakes inevitably (and I am not fond of several things in the stimulus bill), but by God give him a chance, he has barely been in office a MONTH versus 8 excruciating, embarrassing years with the Bush gang, support him as our American President, and stop DOOMING his administration before he even gets a chance. Sorry, off my worn-out soap box now!


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Obama Haters will hate this post.
Remember Rush I-hope-he-fails Limbaugh?

All they want is fodder to support their ridiculous claims. They don't want to hear that he is actually succeeding better than expected.
The HATERS as you put it seem to be you
believe what you believe must be horrible people and then you start the name calling. Need to point that little finger at yourself.
So sad to see all the haters on this board!
I wonder if anyone would come on here and apologize if Obama actually does an awesome job?! Probably not, they are all about the negativity and the hating! I am VERY happy though! Good for everyone!
Haters? I am independent, but have seen
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You stirred the Bush haters.....
and I do mean Bush haters. I have never seen so many people focused on hating one person. It is pretty darn scary. I am not a Democrat, but I do not agree with everything Bush has done by a long shot. I vote for the man (or woman) who most closely follows my values and I feel would be best for the country as a whole. So far there are no Democrats I could vote for in good conscience..too many fundamental differences. I could have voted for Zell Miller and would have if I lived in his state. I am looking for something different, not something falling on rote party lines. Think I found that in Fred Thompson. He says some very important things, one being unity...if this country cannot unite again, we will not stand strong. No other candidate is talking about unity. He is talking about federalism...putting more power back in the states where it belongs constitutionally and in every other way. That is the best way to really know "the will of the people," as the important law changes at the state level are put to an actual vote of the people. What a concept. He also says that 5 or 6 judges should not legislate from the bench and shove laws down the throats of the entire country, which is as UNconstitutional as it can be. He also believes in true religious freedom (which means not painting a target on Christians and everything Christian as the ACLU is so fond of doing). We have gone from freedom OF religion to freedom FROM religion, and that, my friend, is at the core of the problems this country faces today. Okay, off my soapbox. :-)
Bad news for the Christian haters....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420001,00.html


Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholics.  Although Joe Biden dances around the choice issue, he does say he follows the teachings of his church and believes that life begins at conception.


Good for you, Joe.


Nothing's good enough for Palin haters...nm
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The HATERS use their religion as an excuse,
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I reckon if you took the IQ of all you haters on this forum,
and added them all together, you wouldn't even get to 20!!  Very amusing . . . . . .
I reckin' if you took the IQs of all you haters on this forum, sm
and added them all together, you wouldn't even get to 20!!  Very amusing . . . . . .
Sadly, no.
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Sadly....

to some Americans, we will never be "color blind" and the race card will still fly frequently by some people.


Also, it is sad that even though some of us see that Obama is inexperienced and how that has hurt us, etc......there are many that still love the fool.  I guess it will take, God forbid, another terrorist attack on US soil or our economy to totally collapse before people get a clue.  Although I'm sure they will still give Obama the thumbs up because....hey.....this is ALL Bush's fault....remember?  Can someone please pass the kool-aid around?


I'd like to see some of the bleeding heart Bush haters sm
stick flowers in the Islamic terrorist's guns.  They would certainly get a chance.  They will kill them first. 
Might as well not waste time talking to the haters.
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Waste 101- Hannity haters, do not read

Although I'm not a big fan of Hannity, he had a countdown last night. I'd like to know how does landscaping certain hotels, buildings, etc. contribute to jobs? What happened to the infrastructure spending for roads and bridges that was to create jobs...even though those jobs would be temporary, some projects would have given a year or two of work. It still seems like these jobs are "once and done" jobs.


Even Microsoft gets a bridge across a highway so the workers have easier access to their other building across the highway. Why, since he's #2(?) in Forbes, couldn't he pay for it himself?


Hopefully, this list will be on line soon. It's not there yet.


The total for the 101 stimulus spending was $1,234,631,672. The good news is at least we know where some of the stimulus/omnibus money is going.


Sadly, the first thing...
 I thought when I heard **foiled terror plot**  was Wag the Dog.  I do not believe that  this is a hoax in any way, but it is certainly distressing when the first entity you suspect in any cover up or any **make up stuff** is your own government. The timing was what made me think that. With W's popularity in the toilet, over half of Americans wanting out of the war and Lamont winning in Connecticut, without something to distract us, the Lamont win and what it means could have taken over the news for some time to come.  Can't have that. Now we are not thinking about Iraq, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Israel or changing the face of our House and Senate in November.  We are all focused on the terrorists again. Same thing with BP. Very much like Enron, all of a sudden they have to close down the oil pipe and CA gets hit the hardest. BP makes tons of money, we all begin to think drilling anywhere is okay.  The administration is happy. The oil companies are happy.  I did hear that BP is going to try to keep the pipe open now while they do repairs. There was SOOOOO much criticism about the timing and the fact that they have known for years that the pipe is corroded that they have been forced to do something different.  Anyway, I believe that the deal at Heathrow was the real thing, not a ploy in any way. I trust the British and Scotland yard much more than I do this administration and the CIA/FBI.  It is just disturbing that it has come to this. I take everything I hear with a grain of salt until it is proven to me to be true. I used to trust my government but I fear them now.  I  just hope we are all still here in November 2008.
Sadly this is so true
Like I said, this is a high school class president campaign, not a USA presidential campaign. What he promises he cannot deliver.
Are there any adjectives besides sad and sadly? n/m

Sweet! Sadly, I think you are right. I need a better job. LOL nm
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Sadly, some of the senators, if not all,

think we DO want this. Doesn't matter how many calls they get. They think we just love mortgaging ourselves, our children, and our grandchildren.


There are a few that are fighting against the bill as it stands but....and I know a certain person will blast me for this but Schumer, Dodd, and Kerry absolutely screamed today that this package is what HAS to pass. Schumer stated right out that it's what the people want. Kerry stated there was no reason to cut anything from it. Dodd stated that the TARP package has money in it to help with the mortgage debaucle so why they want amendments to the tune of $9B in this one was beyond him.


So, if there is money in TARP for the homeowners, why aren't the homeowners being helped? No rocket science in that. The banks and Wall Street are keeping it.


They just don't get it.


 


Sadly, most don't have a clue and
don't really care what got us in this mess. Banks and mortgage companies were forced to give subprime loans because the democrats wanted EVERYBODY to have house, whether they could afford it or not, giving everyone the belief they were somehow entitled to a home, money or no money. The law was pushed by the democratic party (for those who bother to read it) and it became law that the banks HAD to make these loans AND the law put in place these institutions making money on these worthless pieces of paper. They were forced to do the business with those who had no business in there in the first place getting a loan. And for those who knew they were living beyond their means and even lying about the income, they should have to bear the burden of their stupidity. I do not feel the least bit responsible for keeping them in their home. We live well below what a bank told us we could afford and we have......better safe than sorry!

For all those that think free handouts somehow will make a better country for us and hitting companies that employ with MORE taxes and treating those who are fortunate enough to be rich as if rich is a bad word and going after their income, do those same people EVER stop to ask themselves who the heck pays their assistance!!! It's those who have more money.....duh!! If you didn't have them, you wouldn't have your free money in the first place but lets certainly not discuss that, Heaven forbid!

I'm glad you see the writing on the wall but I'm afraid for those who voted for Obama who are now changing their tune are realizing all too late they have been screwed.
What? None of you Christian haters are making a lick of sense

and Zauber her name is L-i-b-b-y...


 


Sadly the blame game is what we

get to hear the most instead of actual plans and solutions to this that won't end up screwing us in the end. 


I've learned more about the economy than I ever have in the past couple of days.  Makes me wish I'd have listened in economics in high school.  Hind sight is 20/20.  LOL!


Have a great day! 


Sadly enough there are those that live in the same make
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I sadly enough agree with you Gourdpainter
I think the ugliness has barely begun.  Truth will out in the end, it always does.
Sadly, this is reality in my state, also......nm
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Exactly! Sadly, Americans cant seem to wake up.
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You're right. Sadly enough you've wasted your
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It is disgusting, huh? Sadly, I have lost faith
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Sadly, there are plenty of wimpy miserable little
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English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
I think sadly you are right, I always thought that if I would vote Republican, it would be for McCai
and believe he really wants to do good for this country; my own thought was that he was advised, after seeing all the disillusioned Hillary supporters who were not completely sold on Barack yet, that he should pick a female running mate, scoop up all the disappointed Hillary supporters who would want a female in the White House, and it all blew up, Ms. Palin was just not an intelligent choice as running mate, she brought him down, and I think it all snowballed so quickly that all Mr. McCain could do was watch as the snowball hit bottom and disintegrated. But I believe he is a very good Senator.
Sadly, common sense and good behavior...........sm
are seldom rewarded but highly expected and those who practice sound financial habits are often not given the breaks that those who do not are given. It just seems harsh to say "screw them" when one may not know the circumstances and when there may be children involved who would be homeless through no fault of their own. Guess I'm just a little tender-hearted about that.
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
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This all started because you said
*founded on Christian principles*....now I see you've moderated it to *God* Yes, they were *Deists* not Christians as you said in your first post...big difference....not that you will even admit there is a difference.


First of all, GP started this particular

thread, so she is not responding to anybody's attacks in this case.  Second, I think it is very mean to attack someone's religious beliefs.  Third, GP indicated that George Bush said that God told him to be president.  If I remember correctly, George Bush said that God told him to RUN for president.  So he did.  SP did not say that God doing the right thing would put McCain in the White House, nor did she imply it.  She said that she has faith that God will do the right thing and that his will for the country will be done.  Imagine, two Christian practicing their faith and treating God as if he actually exists.


Guess what?  God told me to call my sister last weekend.  Am I delusional too?  Or is it only delusional to think God speaks and leads if you are national figure?  


That is not how it started...
This has been going on for quite a while on the Politics forum. The rabid right-wing Christians have been forcing their beliefs on all of us for months and months and months. They have quoted scripture and told us that anyone who does not believe as they do is destined to burn in eternal fire. They have no respect for people of other religions. I was born into a Jewish family, and I have never felt animosity towards any Christian until recently. These posters have forever changed my opinion of Christianity and not for the better!
For nm-So have I. Plus 2 others started lately.
Does that give you a hint?
Don't get that started here......... sm
That is rude and totally uncalled for.
Looks like you started it
When you tried to accuse W of having a double digit and O of triple.

The fact of the matter is you don't know what GW's score is or O's for that matter. I've been on several sites pro and con for both sides. I've read that people were trying to pass a lie that GWs was 99 (looks like you want to believe the lie too). However there are many sites that say he scored around 129. They also said that some people want to believe O's is higher, but according to his SAT/LSAT is ranges in the 115-120. However, it also says that he won't release his SAT score. Imagine that....Obama not releasing information? Say it ain't so Joe.

The fact is before you start accusing someone of a low or high IQ score maybe you should research a little more. We get it, by your posts you don't like GW. Don't know many who do (including myself), but I don't lie to make one look bad.
Don't even get me started.
Double standards, contradicting, arrogance, etc. How much money does that jet cost for promotional tours? I thought stimulus passed.
Has anyone here ever run for office?
Local,state, whatever. There seems to be a lot of complaining about how terrible the politicians are, but curious to know if anyone has ever run for office or actually held an elected position.

I certainly haven't.
GP, I think you should run for office
then when you get to Washington, you can clean up their act.
TL office
The office I worked in was in Houston.  TL was actually started by an MT.  I forget the name. 
You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
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No, it started with a real
when they couldn't find anything, they dug up the sex scandal. Clinton was investigated for 7 years; can you name a high-level Clinton administartion official indicted? I know Clinton can't practice law; he was also impeached...what's your point?


So if WWWIII is to be started to
we're just supposed to sit down and shut up? Excuse me, but I was raised Catholic and I do not support this at ALL. Bush does NOT have a direct line to God Almighty.