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See link below - source is from Obama's own book.

Posted By: Kaydie on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: As we can see, there is no reliable source. Twisted, misleading passages out of context - don't win elections.


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Might want to inspect the link source
check out the first "err" post above in this thread. Or better still, read the article again and cite one instance where Medicaid was mentioned in the context of raising AGE requirements.
No, not interesting. I followed the link to the source.
and watched the Fox clip.  Oh, and I do watch Fox from time to time to watch the clowns Beck and O'Reilly constantly spouting their hate propaganda and to give me insight into some of the minds of the people who post on this forum, whereby, I can always tell where they get their info, because it is almost always word-for-word out of the Fox pieholes.  It's really quite amusing and always gives me a good laugh for the day!!  LOL
Why aren't you getting it - Snopes is not a credible source. They've been exposed - link inc
They are not credible for putting out truthful information. It is a site run by a couple from California, Barbara and David Mikkelson. They met at an alt.folklore.urban newsgroup. This by no means is a site to find out truth or fiction, especially since the couple is very liberal and choose to put their opinion up rather than fact, and site things as hoaxes when they are not. They are a very liberal couple and of course liberals love this as it always puts their viewpoint in a favorable light, but again this is in no way a credible source. It was recently found that snopes had many things listed as a hoax, when in fact they've been proven to be true. There is another site with better sources and it is called truth or fiction. Attached is an about.com link for info about snopes. But for your everyone's information, do not take snopes to be the truth. Research for yourself with many other links out there.


From Obama's book..... pandering to who???

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."-Truth!
This is an accurate quote from the introduction to Dreams from My Father.  The book chronicles Obama's experience as the son of an African father and an American mother.

It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."-Truth!
This one is also from Dreams from My Father.  It is from a section when Obama was a college student and wrestling with his identity including as an African-American.  The quote describes his observation of what was required among his fellow students.

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."-Truth!
This is from Dreams from my Father.  The more complete quote is, ""Yes, Iíd seen weakness in other menó Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didnít speak to my own. It was into my fatherís image, the black man, son of Africa, that Iíd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."


Obama's words in his own book
Not trashy words, unless you think his book is trash?  It was a great way to sell out his own grandma, wasn't it? 
Read his book, friend....Obama is the one who said it, I was quoting HIM....
he has repeated it in numerous interviews. Thank you for the method of delivery lesson on crack and cocaine (by the way, crack IS cocaine and you can snort it). That being said, I don't think the method of delivery matters. He did cocaine (however he chose to do it, smoke or snort), he says so very openly in his book. He also drank quite heavily for awhile, he also admits drinking. I don't know how he avoided the legal consequences but that doesn't matter. He doesn't say whether he got hooked or not, or how he got un-hooked.

So please do your research before jumping on me.

That being said...I believe him when he says he doesn't do it anymore.

And I have never heard what you just posted about homosexual sex. That is a new one on me.

Ann Coulter Slams Michelle Obama In New Book
More details of Ann Coulter's next book, Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America are out revealing how Coulter slams Michelle Obama for her style while applauding that of Cindy McCain.
The Daily News reports:
Coulter wrote, "Her obvious imitation of Jackie O's style - the flipped-under hair, the sleeveless A-line dresses, the short strands of fake pearls - would have been laughable if done by anyone other than a media-designated saint."

Coulter said Cindy McCain, the wife of vanquished GOP nominee John McCain, "dressed well without freakishly imitating famous First Ladies in history."

Coulter facetiously and snidely refers to Michelle Obama as a "saint" and "Mother Teresa" and suggests that her public service career "advanced in lockstep with the political advancement of her husband."
A previous excerpt from November revealed that Coulter refers to President-Elect Obama as "B. Hussein Obama" and mocks the media's love affair for him.

The book goes on sale Tuesday January 6.

No word if her jaw is still wired shut.

Wish her jaw/mouth would be permanently wired shut.
got a link - Obama said on Leno - the dog comes in April -
Obama raised as practicing Muslim - see link

This is not in ancient times.  He was a practicing Muslim as an adult.  Question is, is he still a practicing muslim hiding as a Christian.  See link.



Obama has already said he is in favor of draft - see link inside

Factcheck.org link inside - Obama birth certificate - nothing wrong with reputable sources for your


Either that or this is one heck of a fake, plus someone planted an announcement back in the 1961 Honolulu newspaper....


post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
or maybe a BOOK

try one.  You might like.


Bible not bad book at all...
...and should have its basic tenets taught right alongside of those of the Qur'an and the holy books of all other major world religions. Students of any age who wish to read the Bible in my opinion should certainly be able to do so anytime they wish. Same for all other holy/religious writings. A person's education really isn't complete without a fundamental understanding of all of the religions that shape our world.

I would however sign any petition that forces anyone to do anything in the spirit of indoctrination or exclusion, or against any requirement that implies that THIS is the one true holy book and you WILL read it even if your negligent atheist going-to-hell-parents wouldn't force you to do it at home (and we're coming for them soon too - better join us if you know what's good for you). Unfortunately that is how this kind of requirement is perceived by many people in our current political climate - including me. And unfortunately, I believe this is exactly the attitude held by those who try to force such requirements into the public schools.

I don't think it qualifies as a "random act of kindness" - but rather as a deliberate act of religious supremacism.

I can see the title of her next book now...sm
*The Liberals Took My Voting Rights.* She's such a nutjob!
But every book she writes goes to #1. sm
She is unbelievably wealthy and she can always fall back on her law degree.  I don't think she is hurting. 
Woodward's book

Cannot wait to read Woodward's new book, however, most of us with eyes wide open have known this even before Bush's war.

YIPES!  Foley..what were you thinking?  Do as I say, not as I do? 

Concerning Chavez's remarks.  What better place to scream and holler than at the UN?  There have been many heated debates and speeches over the years.  Secondly, America, land of freedom and free speech, even for foreigners.  I have no problems with what Chavez said, in fact, I agree with him.  The democratic leaders who spoke out against Chavez and defended the president need to realize that if the shoe was on the other foot, do they actually think Bush, Cheney, Rove, Snow, Rice, Rumsfeld would defend them?  Republicans play dirty, there is proof of that all around, Democrats try not to, however, it has gotten us no where.  It is time to play as dirty as the other side.  Chavez did not state lies, he stated the truth.  If you do not agree, explain then our foreign policy for the last 50+ years, explain our presence in Iraq, even as most Iraqi's are wanting us out or dead.  Bringing Democracy to Iraq, oh please. You cannot force an ideology on people with the barrel of a gun.  When we do leave Iraq, whenever that is, it will not resemble any type of Democracy that we have ever seen.  We have given a gift to Iran with our invasion of Iraq.


Book Proceeds
Yep, was just posting information. Funneling the money to the kids is a way to get the book published. I am sure there are under-the-counter things going on, and I figure the Brown and Goldman families will tie it up anyway as well they should. As to those poor kids...I don't know if there are anough couches in the US to fix them. And that sociopath father of theirs could not care less. If he cared one whit about those kids he would not have murdered their mother and left her mutilated body lying on the sidewalk for them to possibly find. Sick, sick puppy.
That is unsubstantiated....out of a book some...
guy wrote who said "three Arizona reports on condition of anonymity" told him they overheard it. Chalk this one up to unsubstantiated rumor in my books. If someone knows of a link where McCain admitted this, I would be interested in it. If it is true, she should have slapped the cr*p out of him. I am not so naive as to think that other Presidents have not called their wives foul names and vice versa. I can just imagine during the Clinton years.... lol ....remember all the unsubstantiated rumors about Hillary using the "F" word to the secret service people and calling them all kinds of names? I think that is what is happening here. Any time someone says they speak on condition of anonymity makes me suspicious out of the gate.
Book banning VP?


If SP tried to ban library books as mayor, what will she do if she becomes president, which is very likely since JM is not healthy. Isn't there something in the bill of rights about freedom of speech?  I am a book lover and this really makes me angry.


Former Mayor John] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

I would like to suggest a book.....
"People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck, MD - excellent book and he makes reference to several other books that are good reads. This book is about the true meaning of evil - from a scientific perspective. It is not about "possession" but he participated in a few exorcisms performed by many people of different faiths, he said (and don't quote me) that the basic requirement was just that the participants love the afflicted enough to want to help them. He states that "possession" is extremely rare, but he witnessed it up close and personal when the patient was thought to be mentally ill. I have owned this book for years and every time I lend out my copy and don't get it back, another one presents itself at a yard sale, library book sale, whatever.
You really should read a book about his...
career. And then you should read on his website what he proposes for this country. And then you should read up on socialism. Not saying that to be demeaning. I don't think he is a socialist...I KNOW he is a socialist.
book smart isn't everything
I've known a lot of educated people who don't know a thing about real life. Need some life experience and common sense to go anywhere.
The book has been widely

vetted. It is regarded as trash by all other than extreme right thinkers. The author made 8 corrections in the second print already. that was only weeks after publication.  I have a great idea.  Instead of insisting people wear flag pins let us change this country back to the democracy  we can be proud off. The country is based on inspiring ideas.  Internal change is much more legit than external.  How you ask.  I myself am working for my candidate in my community to spread the word.  We are successfully awakening the spirit of the nation.  We have gathered hundreds of young voters and driven them to the polling place to register and vote.  The sleeping giant is stirring and a youthful new leader has emerged to restore us to the greatest nation in history.  If you don't believe me, check out this morning's edition of Vast Variety, the newspaper of those in the know.


No, because she had not written a book about one of the...
participants and it is in her best book selling interest if he WINS. She makes no secret she supports him. A moderator is supposed to be NEUTRAL.
Perhaps because the book has only now come to light....
I didn't know about the book until now. The point being...it is known about now, she knew it then, she should not have taken the job. What if they had chosen Michelle Malkin or Ann Coulter? Would that be okay with you? Geez.
I must have missed that book
in the bible that calls for voting for McCain/Palin. I'll have to look again.

I believe Jesus was a radical, but I still don't see where he calls for a specific candidate.
history book??
Revelations?? Give me an enormous break. Even the stuff that is pseudo-historical is more like little kids playing telephone. Revelations works better as a sci-fi novel than as a history book. & anyway, since when are predictions anything like history? What, the "history" of a bunch of people guessing some stuff? Good grief. This is why I really despise Christianity. You have to embrace the concept of satan, evil, the anti-christ, all those hideous concepts, in order to be a true believer. It's fine to believe whatever you like, just make sure your right to believe stops at my right not to be infringed upon by some fairy tale.
The one who is going to write a book
for our country and how he kept our country safe for the last 7 years from terrorists. He could not state it while he was in office, but now he can write a whole book about him being in office. I felt much more secure with Bush than I will with O as he still scares me.
no history book here
just internet babble.  I can copy/paste too! 
Pretty much the whole book..........sm
of Revelation. All those who stand against God will be destroyed in the battle of Armageddon. Revelation 21:10 describes the new Jerusalem as it will be after the battle and all is settled.

Ridiculous Book of the Year

OMG, even the republicans have to speak out against this..OMG, what is going on?


ARidiculous Book of the Year

Saturday Funnies

You would think JohnFive in the noggin Gibson, a man who wished that Karl Rove received a medal for outing Valerie Plame and other idiotic takes on the world was going to write a book it would be about something a little more important than: The War on Christmas

Jesus General wrote his Amazon review of the book here and found some hysterical Freeper reviews.


                                   Bittorrent-WMP Bittorrent-QT

Even O'Reilly made fun of him by saying that his title was Coultersque. John actually said there are children who don't know what a Christmas tree is. What's the number John-two? The horror. oh...Heaven help us!

The reviews are bad on Amazon for this book...sm
Here's one of the shorter reviews I found interesting.

*Gibson has managed to accomplish what many have tried but few have accomplished; namely, to redefine a commonly used word. In this case, Gibson has somehow managed to define oppression as lack of monopoly. According to Gibson, the continued existence of non-Christians during the winter holidays constitutes oppression of Christianity. Never mind, of course, that the Christian religion probably holds the all-time world record for being oppressed less than any other major religion; it had a remarkably easy road to hegemony. With this book, Gibson hopes to make any non-Christian terrified to express any religious sentiment other than that of the power base.*

Call Ann and see if she needs a book stockman..sm
You two should get along nicely.
The Democrats did not write this book.

A man who calls himself a **Christian conservative** did. He was I believe the #2 man on the **faith-based initiative program.** His name is David Kuo. He is a Republican. I think he will be on 60 minutes tonight. I have seen a couple of recognizable names from the Christian right denounce the white house after hearing some of the things Kuo writes. I am anxious to hear what Kuo himself says.

I am a Christian and I do not feel stiffled at all about voting.

What if McCain wrote a book
And in his biography, he made statements like not ingratiating myself to blacks.

Showing loyalty to the white masses

Or made a statement saying I never emulate black or brown men.....

Do you think there would be any chance he'd be a presidential candidate right now?

If McCain wrote a book, this is what it would say sm
McCain's book would say this:
Chapter One:
I am an admiral's son. I was a POW for 5 years. My wife waited for me and I ditched her when I got home for Cindy. A month after my divorce, I married Cindy the botox queen who bobs her head and makes $100 million a year. I don't want to be her little houseboy so I'm trying to be president so she can be proud and I can help all her corporate friends.

I'm skanky and old and I follow what GW Bush says and does, although now that he tanked our country, I'm trying to backpedal on that until after the election. Right now we are trying to figure out how to steal votes in a less sleazy fashion than the past 2 elections. We have the power and we aren't giving it up easily.

My worst idea ever was getting Sarah Palin but I cannot admit mistakes so now I just go and defend her before anyone even opens their mouths. I say ISN'T SHE GREAT, while inside I'm kicking myself. She made me lose long time republicans. I know if I die after hopefully being elected the big bad repubs will impeach her butt in a heartbeat. Speaking of heartbeat, I'm sorry I slobbered and gasped so much during the debate last night. I don't want my supporters to think I'm sick...I was just trying to distract people who were listening to Obie. He is really stealing the show.

I don't know why the Hillary supporters don't like Palin. Do you suppose they aren't as dumb as I'd hoped? I was hoping they would be satisfied with those 2 having as little in common as labia majora and a a vijayjay. Oh well. Can't please everyone.

By the way, did you know Palin's husband belonged to a fringe group that tried to get Alaska to secede from the Union? That will be the grounds to impeach her if I kick the bucket. Oh heck yeah, we good ole boys have it all figured out.

Anyone have a clue why Jackson Brown, Survivor, Heart and all those other bands won't let me use their music? I sure can't ask the Dixie Chicks now can I?

Ain't it a shame how everyone came down on them girls for speaking against Bush when they were 100 percent right? Whoops, well I can say that now that I'm trying to distance myself from the C student whose daddy got him into Yale. But he is a rich boy and I only hang with rich boys.

Let's see now. One more thing. I was brilliant last night with my Joe the Plumber. Good thing nobody found out until after the debate that he was a republican plant. He was on talk radio, the right wing hater shows, even before the debate. Yeah, he was a plant, not just some random thing but haha fooled everyone for a night. Now if I can just fool them until the election.

Peace! I mean WAR. More war more war more war!

Hillary can write another book
And her debt will be wiped clean or pretty near to it. She just is greedy and wants everyone to pay for her expenses. Her and Bill make enough money to wipe out their (or her) debt.

This is ridiculous that the DNC is asking people to give for them. We're already going to be paying a ton for the bail outs they gave a few weeks ago.
Another book about the Great Depression
The Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes. I'm about halfway through it now and it's amazing - it could have been written about the last several years instead of the 1920s.
At least O held the book right-side up......

He needs to buy a "tax guide" book for
I heard that he had a book coming out. (sm)
Hopefully it will add more fuel to the fire and get the UN to go ahead and prosecute.  They're already talking about trying Bush and Rumsfeld for torture.  I think that would be our best bet, and then they could have Cheney too.  That would keep Obama out of it, keep from tying up our courts and money in it, and it gets those criminals out of the country. 
Of course in your book it's old news; he still hasn't
So if Donahue had a best selling book he would be credible?sm
That's the right-wing way, get loud and obnoxious (Ann Coulter)and write a book and make $$$$ trashing liberals.
Freakanomics, Democrat, is NOT Bennett's book. sm

It you had read the entire article posted here and gone to Bennett's website, you would know that.  But it's easier to just run with the first bone of information and negate the facts.  If Bill Maher told Bennett to do that, he would make a fool of himself...yet again. 

If one was to say that Bill Bennett believed crime could and should be reduced by abortion, then one could also argue that liberals who support abortion believe in and advocate black genocide.

Do they really want to go there...?

that's your problem. You put too much stock in a book written
Why do people say no flames please when they make inflamatory statements? You must like the attention.
She's a Clinton, so in my book, she's O-U-T. I'll be voting
Here are a few quotes from James Cone's book...
the author of Black Liberation Theology...you were not looking at the black liberation theology practiced at Trinity...James Cone is central to that, says so on their website, unless they have taken it down.

Here are a couple of direct quotes:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

"Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it... While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. " Excuse me...WHAT??
That is the racist part.

Here is the Marxist part:
One of the pillars of Obamaís home church, Trinity United Church of Christ, is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased with "Americaís economic mal-distribution." Among all of controversial comments by Jeremiah Wright, the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the most alarming. The code language "economic parity" and references to "mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic views of Karl Marx. Black Liberation theologians have explicitly stated a preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus victim class (blacks).

Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the 1970s. For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of blacks as victims of white oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see how things really are."

That is just the tip of the iceberg.

Yep. It is our turn to be inspired. They need to book her a stadium....
Was during the primaries or while he was promoting his book (on the table)??
Have you never read his book "Audacity of Hope"
I would have thought an O lover would be chomping at the bit to read that. He doesn't see the constitution as a "static" document but rather a living document that he should be able to change around at will to suit whatever seems to be going on in the country at the time. That is not the intention of the constitution. The originalists of the constitution put it in place as fixed and unwavering.....you know what that means? Probably not.

It means that the constutition does not promise "we will be rewarded and all good will flow." But this is exactly how Obama wants it...to have everyone believe they should have it good all the time and everything should be great and if not, change the constitution to suit your needs. That is not following the constitution. He believes it is just a piece of paper that should be changed at will whenever he chooses.

Our officials for certain will mess up plenty but the constitution gives them the right to at least influence them and/or replace them.

He doesn't like that...it doesn't suit him. How arrogant! It doesn't suit him?

This is what Justice Scalia said about the constitution which is why Obama doesn't like him. Scalia has put it, "the reality of the matter is that, generally speaking, devotees of The Living Constitution do not seek to facilitate social change but to prevent it."

In his book on the chapter under Constitution, he is so pompous, he says he feels he is "left with Lincoln" in his deluded thinking that they look at the constitution the same. I could go on and on but you obviously haven't taken the time to read his book and really know where this man is coming from. He has every intention of crapping all over YOUR constitution, because he thinks that it is his to change at will.

ANd I can guarantee that if elected, this man will place such immoral justices on the Supreme Court, even you will wonder what country you are living in. This is a man who will resort to sly deceptions to advance his agenda of liberal judicial activism.

No doubt this is all over your head and as usual, you will have another ridiculous comeback because you really have nothing intelligent to comment on in regards to your constitution.

And I won't even bother to address the abortion issue with you and his take on the constitution with that one. You probably don't care much about that either.