So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm

• It's still interesting to see - sm
  • Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers? - trying to process being stabbed in the back!!
    • We're just trying to catch our breath after laughing over some of the blind right posts (and W. i - Cyndiee
      • I posted the illegal bailouts and I'm independent - I would rather NOT bail them out! sm
        • Independent? - Tli
      • I'm independent - nm
    • I'm still trying to get that saber out of my back from W........nm - sm
      • well, in that case, you're about to get a double - whammy with Obama.......nm
        • the double whammy just paid 65% of my COBRA.....yee haa! nm - sm
    • Sounds like those crickets you hear...(sm) - Just the big bad
      • You don't know it's not a good idea for BIGGER - government = MORE money from YOU!!!
        • The difference between me and you...(sm) - Just the big bad
          • Not in a position to give more - long-time MT-NY
        • And George supported bigger profits for bigger business and richer people, that was soooo much bette - Cyndiee
      • They obviously are hearing voices..... - sm
      • My God! Where have you been? Are you just dense? - look it up.....not hard to find
        • So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm - Cyndiee
          • No, you really don't want to educate yourself - you are one of those ..........sm
            • And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm - Cyndiee
  • I'll believe it when I see it..............nm - sm
    • you obviously won't......it's already been handed over - liberal dems bragging about it all day!!
    • you'll believe what? the bailout money has already - been given.....275 million
  • 1 MILLION ILLEGALS have mortgages!! - be a good American and pay it for them!!
    • And your source is????? nm - Just the big bad
      • Steven Camarota....director of research for Immigration - Studies in DC.........a 3rd grader could find this
        • Right-wing websites are the only sources I'm finding..... - sm
          • You don't mind paying for an illegal mortgage? - You're too ashamed to answer the question......
            • No more than I mind paying for yours. - -nm
        • They can APPLY ----- - sm
          • They not only can apply, they receive mortgages - you are now paying for......
    • yeah, okay, I'll take your word for it - sm

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Better to be right than look stoopid. If you check other posts, you will REMEMBER why the pub faithful were accused of drinking the Kool-Aid.......

the bit about the open microphone on McCain during the debate was brilliant!!! I laughed until I literally cried!!  By the way, Michelle Obama was warm, intelligent, sincere and very much First Lady material!!!

I say all life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. You say ** it works for you but not for me and everyone knows it.** You will excuse my reference to Darwinism here but there IS a missing link.  I also believe that all deaths matter, or no death matters at all.

What I am trying to say is every life, no matter when you believe it begins or ends, is sacred, EVERY life, that includes every living breathing person on this planet, even those you really really really don't like or those who have created heinous crimes. All life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. God, not you or me or W is the real decider.

Now, please advise how did you get from my  simple statement the idea that this **won't work for me and everybody knows it.**

obviously know everything....how many detainees have been through Gitmo and how many have been "tortured." 

Sounds to me like you have no sympathy for those people who were killed execution style by a former Gitmo detainee.  All you do is consistently show sympathy for terrorists.  Or is it just the fact that the people killed were Christians and so you don't care since you have obvious hate and disdain for anything associated with God.

Bush made mistakes and if you have your way...him and Cheney will be swinging from the nearest tree in no time. 

However, how can you be so blind as to allow Obama to hurry up and close Gitmo with no place for the detainees?  Do you want them all released?  Do you want them sent back where they came from so they can start up killing Americans again?  Or how about we put them in our own prison systems so they can recruit within our own country and then later be released here in our own country?

It seems to me that you seem to forgive them killing thousands of Americans in an act of terrorrism and yet you keep harping on harsh interrogations like that is worse than murdering thousands of Americans.  How sad you are!

How do you handle this then?  Terrorists who want us dead and will do anything to accomplish that.  How do you deal with them?  What is the source?  Do we all convert to their religion?  What?  I'm curious as to what your solution is for this mess.

I still would like to see Obama go after the CEOs of these big  corporations and banks the pocketed loads of money and walked away from a failing business.  Why aren't they being investigated and tried for what they have done?  Instead of we going after the past administration even though dems knew what was going on.

As for your information about Mohammed giving info until the harsh interrogations.....there are two sides to this story and until everything is released and looked into, all you go by is what MSNBC says and the rest of us go by facts.

Nancy Pelosi and other dems were brief on these interrogations and they did NOTHING.  The government has only allowed part of the information to be unclassified.  There is still other information out there that they have not brought to light and seem to be not wanting to bring to light.  Wonder why....hmmmm.

The reason behind terrorist attacks is because they are Muslim extremists who believe their religion has called them to rid the world of people who aren't Muslim.  No tea and cookies and friendly talks is EVER going to change that. 

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

• Anyone born inside the United States
  
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
  
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  
• A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such as Puerto Rico (8 USC 1402), Alaska (8 USC 1404), Hawaii (8 USC 1405), the U.S. Virgin Islands (8 USC 1406), and Guam (8 USC 1407). Each of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date, and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date. For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952). Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States. Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.

Some have theorized that because John McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person." Not eveyone agrees that this section includes McCain - but absent a court ruling either way, we must presume citizenship.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

If one group of people who want to see Obama in office manage to do away with the 14th Amendment, then what is to keep another faction of people from doing away with any of the other constitutions?  The Constitutions, its Amendments and Articles were put in place not to oppress the American people but to protect them and their rights and freedoms.  What if all the men in the country decided they wanted to do away with the 19th Amendment?  I bet we would see some really mad women in this country.  Or how about doing away with the 22nd Amendment which limits the number of terms that a President  can serve?  Can we say "dictatorship?" 

This must be why you so obviously love Muslims? 

You do realize that you contradict yourself on just about every other post you make?  ROFL..