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Spoken like a truly twisted fool nm

Posted By: Adeline on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: It is truly only the liberals - Chele

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And you twisted what I said also....
the reason we have to abort not 100-200 a year but 1.2 million a year is because of the permissive society liberals have ushered in...no accountability...no right or wrong, only shades of gray...near porn in prime time, all in the name of freedom of expression. Have sex with anybody, as many anybodies as you want, anythings you want, freedom to express yourself...with no consequences because we stand ready to abort 1.2 million "oopses" a year.

Nice cigar hole remark. However, I think another permissive or should I say prominent promiscuous liberal has that one sewed up.


...of twisted logic.

Your theory is twisted
Maybe that's what they teach in the socialized education system nowadays (I heard plenty from my cousin who would tell me what her professors in the university were spewing). But what you stated is not the theory (that after 2 terms of one party the other party is supposed to be elected). What kind of screwed up site did you get that from (probably MSNBC or some other hate-filled station). If that was the case then there would not be a race and the opposite party would just be placed in - which is exactly what the democrats are trying to do.

I do agree that there is both far right and far left wingnuts. That is why the country needs someone who is a moderate. Unfortuntely the country will never elect someone from the Independent, Constitution or other party that is down the middle, but at least John McCain is more down the middle. Obama is the farthest left that you can get. It just astounds me how many Americans would rather have the country move to socialism and live under a dictator rather than have a free country.

Also, people forget that America is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy. Nowhere in the contitution or Declaration of Indpendence is the word "democracy" even mentioned. Our founding fathers were extremely knowledgeable about the issues of democracy and feared it. They understood that the only entity that could take away people's freedom is their own government (which we will see if Obama is elected).

There are people who are bent on destroying our sovereignty by creating the North American Union (which means Canada, US & Mexico will become a single country). The NAFTA agreement was just the beginning of this. Obama admits to support of this. Obama's policies are that of Stalin's. Stalin's economic philosophy was socialism, which involved taking property from the rich in order to redistribute it to the poor. Sounds exactly like what he was telling the plumber guy and others. I think last night John McCain made a very clear connection that Obama's polices and core beliefs are the same as Joseph Stalin's.

We cannot go down that road. We need to continue on as a free country. To think that now that because you have two terms of one party it's the other parties turn is wrong. Especially if the other party is and believes in socialism.

We need to have a republican (or another party other than a democrat) elected as president as the senate and house already are democrat. This is what they call "balance of power". Americans prefer that the checks-and-balances evisioned by the founders be facilitated by having different parties control Congress and the White House. Put in a democrat president mixed with a democratic congress and a democratic senate and you have tyranny. They will pass every pork filled bill possible, tax you more and the country will go down the same dark road we hit with Carter and Clinton.

Yes, the country is in a state of turmoil one we haven't seen for not sure how long. I wouldn't go back to the depression, as we all know Obama is trying to scare people into believing if he is not elected we're going to hit a depression - another blatant lie of his. That is why we need a moderate in the office. We need someone to keep the democratic senate and house in order, that is why we need McCain.

People should not vote for the other party with your theory that if they vote for McCain we are all wealthy. A lot of us are voting for McCain because we don't want to be taxed over 45% of our paychecks like we were under the last democrat president Mr. "Liar, depends on what the meaning of is is" Clinton. It is a fact that under Bush most American have received tax refunds (not the richest of rich - people like me and others who make around $25K or so). Something I never saw once under any of the 8 years the last democrat president was in. McCain and Palin have more knowlege of how to run the country. How to create jobs, how to not tax the small business people, how to generate income for America, how to win the war and not rush everyone back because you think more people will vote for you if you keep pushing that, when in truth you will turn around and after elected send them all back.

I say if you want to be free. If you want to be able to start your own business or have any money left from your paychecks to build a future for yourselves. If you care that the country is now a safer place since 9/11. If you care that our next president doesn't hang around with people like Wright, Ayers, Farrakan, and has friends in the countries that want to see us wiped off the planet and will do so under an Obama presidency, then vote your conscience and vote John McCain.

After last nights debate no matter who you think won or lost, I'll be voting for a man who has the knowlege and experience to lead the country to better times and will continue to remain free. Otherwise you should learn how people in Cuba and North Korea and other communist/socialist countries feel. Why do you think they're all trying to come to our country. And the ones who immigrated to here to get away from there. I'm sure they will not be voting for someone who will make this country into what they risked their lives to get away from.
No, it might be you who is twisted, sistah!
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Another twisted notion...
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O'Reilly: Twisted spin, again.

A quote:


 


O'REILLY: Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office, the poverty rate was 13.7%. Halfway through President Bush's tenure the rate is 12.7, a full point lower.


[COMMENT According to statistics obtained from the U. S. Census site, when Bill Clinton began his term as President in 1993, the poverty rate was 15.1%. By the time Clinton left office the poverty rate was 11.7%. By 2002, under George Bush the rate began to rise again to 12.1% in 2002, 12.5% in 2003 and 12.7% in 2004.


According to the Christian Science Monitor this most recent increase was unforeseen by analysts who expected the number to drop along with unemployment and may indicate a disturbing trend. While the poverty level for Asians declined and it remained stable for Hispanics and African-Americans, the only group that saw an increase was non-Hispanic white Americans living in the midwest. In other words there are 1.1 million poorer red state residents this year than there were last year.]


O'REILLY: In 1996 the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2% of the budget. ... However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record-shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements - 14.6% of the entire budget - a huge increase over Clinton's spending. Did the elite media mention that? Jesse Jackson mention that? Of course they didn't. Because it's much more convenient for Evan Thomas and others to imply that America under President Bush has turned its back on the poor. But it's absolute nonsense. Even in the midst of the war on terror [Note: Did he mean the war of choice in Iraq?], this country is spending a massive amount of money tryin' to help the poor. So why the lie? Because political gain can be made off the suffering of others, that's why. Those who oppose the Bush administration don't care about the truth. They only want to advance their own agenda, so once again the No-Spin zone rides to the rescue.


Hard-working Americans are providing the poor with Medicaid, food stamps, supplemental security income - that's free money - child nutrition programs, welfare payments, child daycare payments, temporary assistance to needy families, foster care, adoption assistance and health insurance for children. But, it will never be enough for the Jesse Jacksons and Howard Deans of the world. Never! If they told you the truth, they'd go out of business.


Now, I fully expect to be attacked by the far-left media for tellin' you all this. I'm sure they'll label me a racist, a shill for Bush, stuff like that. But, I don't care. The dollars don't lie. We are a generous nation. And that is the truth.


COMMENT


Most of the poor in this country WORK, many of them hold down two and three jobs. If you want to read a damning book on this topic, I suggest you get Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickeled and Dimed: On (Not) Getting by in America. Ms. Ehrenreich went underground and worked at minimum wage jobs for a year. She discovered a few unpleasant facts about life on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. Self-satisfied, replete, rich men like Bill O'Reilly sit in their posh offices and scare hard-working Americans into believing that their taxes go to indigent scofflaws who sit at home guzzling beer, smoking pot, eating chips and watching TV. Those of us closer to homelessness know this is not the case.


When he mentioned that SSI (social security supplemental income) is free money, he neglected to say that it is money that goes to disabled Americans or that providing health coverage for children reduces trips to the emergency room!

Sometimes I wonder how many poor people Mr. O'Reilly actually knows or has associated with on a long-term basis? For the past 15 years I've been involved in a local program that offers music scholarship to needy families. In that time I've taught 7 different children from 7 different poverty situations and I came to know the families personally. Most of the adults in the family work really hard. Sometimes the kids worked, too, after school. Some had parents trying to break a drug habit (yes, they held down a job) or schizophrenic parents (who were incapable of working) or an abusive parent (who worked, then took it out on the family), but most were blessed with caring parents who were doing the best to provide for their children against almost impossible odds.


So when I hear guys like O'Reilly spout their simplistic tripe implying that the poor are sucking the lifeblood out of hard-working Americans, I see red.


Also, I don't trust O'Reilly's numbers on entitlement programs simply because he never once used the words inflation-adjusted dollars. If he was simply quoting raw numbers, I'd like to remind him that 15 years ago the dollar went farther. Additionally, he did not indicate through graphics or verbally whether or not there was parity between the two budgets, i.e., was he citing figures that included exactly the same programs in both figures?


Given O'Reilly's dubious track record, one cannot accept his statements without independent verification.


Human rights is getting way twisted
I go by the Bible and a much higher authority.
Sorry, I missed the part where she said all that, why do things have to get twisted and nasty...sm
when there is an ethical disagreement? Shots below the belt that assume way too much are low, ignorant, and taunting like a little disgruntled child. Perhaps there are others who are misssing a life, it seems to be on here, constantly inflaming, goading, ridiculing, but not saying much in the way of alternative ideas to DO something for this country. Bitter rhetoric just helps to tear things down and cause further division, nothing will ever get done either way. IMHO
time to grow up - both sides have said things they don't mean or regret or get twisted
There's a whole slew of things everyone has said that they wish they didn't and on important issues. One party is not free from that.

EVERYONE has faults. Whether your democrat OR republican, man OR woman, black OR white. They all have said things they don't mean or didn't come out right, or was totally twisted by the other side. Fact of life in politics.

If your going to go there be prepared to listen to all the things "your" candidate has said in the past. Then you'll whine when someone brings it out.
As we can see, there is no reliable source. Twisted, misleading passages out of context
rasberries
What........your twisted or hateful idea of truth, grow a heart, okay?...nm
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Who looks like a fool? Not me and IM GT
LOL...I have NEVER posted under any handle than gt..whether you believe me or not, I frankly dont care..Keep fantasizing when someone pops up with a different view than your narrow view that it is gt, LOL..that is okay, however, it isnt me..Get a hint, there are MANY MANY MANY of us out here who do not believe, live, act or anything like you..and we all dont go under the handle of gt..in your insistance of everyone is gt, you make yourself look like a fool..
And you are a fool if you think that anything we do...
or don't do will keep those nuts from attacking us.  These are not normal reasonable people.  They are LUNATICS!  Yes, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it... Read up on the French in the 1930s and how they dealt with Hitler.  You are making excuses for cold blooded killers who would cut your head off as you were kissing their feet, and crapping all over your own country.  Yes, we have the freedom to do that.  But lots of people died so you could do it. It's easy to sit around at your computer and put down the country that gives you that right.  No president is perfect, including all the Democratic ones.  Mistakes have been made.  But we have done NOTHING to deserve having our citizens killed in cold blood.  They are people filled with hate.  If you can't see that America is better than they are no matter what we've done, then I feel sorry for you.  We've dealt with situations at the time, not in retrospect. 
No, I'm a fool to keep
another point of view. I am well acquainted with history. My dad was a WWII vet and he could't believe we went into Iraq this time, but withheld judgement and supported his 2 grandson soldiers. My dad died the following June. My brother (the father of the aforementioned soldiers) is a retired Sergeant Major with many soldiers who served under him in the first gulf war. They could have gone in and gotten Saddam then; they were right there. He has told me many stories that would make your hair stand on end. So please don't make your sweeping assumptions about why I am against this war. I love my country as much as you do; the difference is, you, like Bush, don't like to be questioned. When is he going to admit he made a mistake? What is reasonable about attacking Iraq when they were not the ones who attacked us on 9/11? Why didn't we go after BinLaden? Why were members of his family allowed to escape? Please explain this to me, I'm a fool.


Aw, nobody could fool you...
...weren't you and the wolf pack on a first-name basis with the Monitor and Administrator? Oh I see, you're just being coy, that's it. Well not to worry, it's all equalized now, and thanks again to the Monitor and Admin. for doing it.
fool on the hill
We are at war, in the middle of a war so we cant talk badly about our president or administration..Oh please.  I will talk and shout out how awful this little jerk is in the WH and anyone else who sees the TRUTH, please speak out too.  To be quiet about this warmonger and what he is doing to America is a major crime.  No, I wont be quiet..I will scream out what this chickenhawk has done to America.  You can sit meekly by and take whatever the fool on the hill shoves your way.
You are an ignorant fool
They are asking for things like deodorant, foot powder, Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations, feminine items like tampons.  Shampoo, conditioner, books, stationery to write home, Christmas cards, letters.  They want letters.  With every post you define YET AGAIN over and over how little you have a clue about our military and how little your regard for them.  And you will never get any better.  You will remain the pretenders of supporting the troops. As you have always been and you will always be.  Shameless, shameful, tragic. 
You are an insufferable fool. nm

utter fool of herself. nm
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dont fool yourself
I am a Christian also and always first.  I have been a Christian all of my life.  My father is a Baptist preacher.  I believe in Jesus and try to live my life for him.  Dont kid yourself that John McCain and Sarah Palin are moral.  There is not one, not one politician who is moral.  None of them run the country with God's plan in mind.  If they did, our world would not be like it is.  Obama is not saying that he agrees that abortion is okay because he passes a vote for it.  He is saying that a woman has the right to choose it for herself.  Would he choose abortion for his wife, NO.  But he doesnt feel that he should take the choice of free will from someone else.  God gave us free will to sin or not to sin.  We have the free will that God granted us to choose, choose Jesus, not choose Jesus.  We each, individually will be held accountable for our choices.  Why is giving someone a choice in a matter wrong?  It is what that person chooses that is right or wrong and they are the ones that have to answer for it. 
LOL! It isn't April Fool's Day yet!

Not ONE of the links you posted worked.


Not ONE!!


But ha, ha!  Ya made me look!


Fool? In whose eyes, right wingers, LOL
Fool in your eyes, not in the majority of this country..I kind of am glad Bush is messing up so much, come election next year, you bet there will be many Americans who will think twice before voting for republicans..
Not nearly as *good* as you proving what a fool you are

by attributing something to me that I never said.


I made a mistake.  You thrive on attention.  I said I was going to ignore you.  From now on, I will give you the attention you truly deserve:  NONE.


Find someone else to judge, despise and attack and/or get some professional help.  I won't feed your anger and hatred any more.


You need a Happy Meal.


Have a lovely evening, dear.  Buh-bye.  


It's hard to surprise a fool. NT
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Yes, that was very Coulter of you and proves just who the fool really is.

Not the least bit surprised that you're a Coulter groupie, though.  I will pray for your sad, sad soul.


No, my dear, I am not a judgmental fool. If I am, and in your
opinion it seems I am, then I will direct you to God's Word that stands in judgment and condemnation of Osbambo.

You got a problem with my judgement, then you have a problem with God, and to be frank, that is obvious.
Sarah Palin...what a fool!
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/110208_palin_audio_1-2.mp3
better a poor MT than an irrational fool


Obama just wants BIG government. He is a fool
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O-M-G - You are correct - call me the fool
You are so correct. I thought Hannibal Lecter was a real person that someone wrote a story about. Geez - talk about slapping me on the side of the head. After reading your post I said, no, can't be, he's a real person, but looking further I see he is a fictional character that other bad people have been nicknamed after.

Doooooiiiiiinnnnngggggg.

Thanks for the reality slap. Too funny.

However those other doctors I listed are real doctors. The point was just because you have a medical degree doesn't mean you are the most intelligent being on the planet.
Poor little Annie Coltergeist - what a fool
Isn't it funny how suddenly she doesn't know what to say and calls out for help? LOL
oops - meant fool, not food. HA HA
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the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
I guess we are allowed to call names so YOU ARE a FOOL nm
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Spoken by a true a**
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spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
Spoken by somebody who KNOWS how to RESEARCH.
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It is because the great "O" has spoken...
and anything else is a lie. LOL. They've seen behind the curtain and know the truth but it doesn't matter. This is one strange phenomenon. lol.
That's right, the people have spoken and
Obama is our next president.
Well spoken, oh wise one.

I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House:  America, Love It Or Leave It!  I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too! 


Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever.  However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore. 


Keith is great.  The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies.  Why was the rest of the media so frightened? 


On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history:  Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country. 


Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 


The people have spoken now and

they still aren't listening.


It's not a matter of pubs or dems. Our voices should be heard, but there are too many politicians who are deaf. I think we should all donate $1 to buy hearing aids for them all.


Biden is the biggest fool out there this campaign, wins hands down.nm

Spoken by the true whiner that you are. By the way sm

Do you have an abortion to have an opinion about it. So that means that all prochoice people have had abortions or else they would not have an opinion, right? 


Until you've been killed by an Islamic terrorist you have no right to complain?


If you are against this war why don't you fly to Iraq and tell Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to surrender?


If you hate the war so much, why aren't you acting as a human shield?

Funny. I don't remember you complaining back when Clinton was bombing the hell out of Iraq in '98.


Spoken as a true partisan.

No, spoken TO a true partisan

Only the conservatives on these boards fail to open their eyes and be objective when it comes to Bush and his actions.  They're obviously partisan conservatives.


However, the people who continue to defend Bennett after Bush himself condemned Bennett's statement... well, there's a name for them, as well.


I think we're starting to see a divide in the conservative party.  Those who just blindly follow Bush, unwilling or unable to see what's really happening, and the more sinister, dangerous, racist group who wouldn't mind seeing all black babies aborted.  Those who insist on defending Bennett are emphasizing that distinction, which is a good thing.  Let these people reveal themselves for what they really are.


I guess God himself has spoken to you and informed you
that the rapture will pass Lilly by.

Everyone tune in Divinity is speaking on the chat board tonight.

Joke!
Spoken like a true leader...nm

spoken by the grammar police.
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The Church of the Self-Righteous Has Spoken

I don't care what anyone believes or practices - freedom of religion 


It's the freaks who think THEIR religion is the ONLY RIGHT religion who scare me.


Even Jesus was a liberal.


spoken like a true liberal....lol...nm
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No Truer Words Were Ever Spoken
During this election year let's be reminded of these words:
 * You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative
and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and
should, do for themselves.
Do you recognize the author?
It was Abraham Lincoln
Very, very wise words, written years ago and we still don't get it.....