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Stardust - still waiting for your apology.

Posted By: Kaydie on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: Kaydie's Michelle Obama comment - Stardust

It's been close to a day. After my challenge to you I waited a few hours and nothing. You couldn't find one of my posts where you acused me of racist comments. I knew you wouldn't find one because it's not in my nature and I'm sure by now you know I am a black woman. So after a few hours I re-posted and within the half hour you came back and said see, there your comment about Michelle Obama.

My answer to you was that you accused me before I made that comment. Besides there was nothing racist about the comment I made about Michelle Obama and the way you stereotype how you think us black folk should talk and therefore assumed I was white.

So you know you were wrong yet no apology. That just goes to show me you are a racist yourself. I have no more time for this.


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nine times..waiting..waiting..sigh..waiting

Still waiting for the NINE OTHER TIMES I HAVE CALLED YOU A BIGOT..Please post them..Otherwise you are a liar.


Well said, Stardust.......Because....
THOSE WHO HATE, WILL NEVER WIN, UNTIL YOU HATE, AND THEN YOU DESTROY YOURSELF.

Hi, stardust, I think this has to be the other way around...
'poussiere DE l'etoile'
Thank you, Stardust.

I do my best as a parent but am by no means anywhere near perfect.  I cherish my children and the gifts they have brought to my life.  I feel truly blessed.  


I have overcome lots of adversity in my life and used to contemplate suicide as an answer.  I knew there was more to life than that so I developed a thick skin and prayed that things I would have the strength to get through it.  I think I am God's success story because I didn't turn to sex, drugs, or alcohol, I just dealt with my situations and learned from each one. 


So when someone doesn't believe in giving life a chance because things might suck for them, I have to say I feel I am God's success story and don't give up on life because in itself it is a miracle. 


Abortion is a complex issue, but for those who could have chosen birth control, they should have been proactive instead of reactive.  Use birth control or don't have sex.  It's pretty simple.  Conception happens for a reason.  It's called life.  


Hey, Stardust, are you not the one who accused
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Stardust, you are too funny!..nm
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Well, Stardust, YOUR hatred is showing. You think
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That is totally not true, Stardust. And it is O
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Where are the posts..SM..still waiting....and waiting...
Still waiting.....SM..when have I ever called you a bigot..Show the proof..Bigot is not a word I throw around easily or frequently, so if there are posts here with my handle stating bigotry, I WANT TO SEE THEM..Still waiting............and waiting..........and waiting.........and waiting.........where are the posts?  Show them or forever been labeled a neocon liar..
Bonne nuit, a demain, mon ami, stardust. (etoile de la poussiere ) LOL ! ..nm.nm
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Don't owe anyone an apology

...BTW nobody has apologized for calling me a liar....not that I expected it....grow some skin.


No apology necessary...nm

Apology...sm
I wouldnt suggest anyone hold their breath waiting on any apology from Bush. Bush really does believe that it is *unacceptable to think* anything differently than what he is able to articulate.

He does not get it. It is because we do not want to be compared to islamofascist that we (dems and reps alike) *think* America should follow Geneva Conventions and not redefine them because it is only right. If we redefine, others will to. You can take that to the bank and cash it.

Will the terrorist follow the GC anyway - probably not - but we will be in a better position to deal with them if we have legally handled our POWs. I guess, it is *unacceptable to think* that Bush will get it.
I own you a apology for....

When I engage in political discussions, I try my best to keep things in the 3rd person as much as possible, especially since I try to promote mutual respect and tolerance.   I find that even in the most oppositional debates, it helps keeps things more civil.  I do not always succeed, and at times have been known to abadon that principal, especially when facing someone bent on personal attack or who is presenting ill-informed arguments.  I have followed some of your other posts and know that you certainly do not fit that category.  On close review, I notice I got a bit sloppy with the 3rd person thing.  I apologize if I came across as too presumptive, particularly since I cannot assume anything about your (or you family) in terms of being conservative or bigoted.


 


The 59 flea market is alive and well, although it is a bit of an anachronism by now.  Don’t know about the crime, except to say that there is usually a patrol car within sight cruising that vicinity on the weekends.  I used to go there all the time back in the day, but it is too hot and I am too old for that now.  That’s why I frequent those modern day flea markets along Harwin which can be found in air-conditioned buildings.


 


Bellaire was relatively middle class when we moved there.  It is its own city, so they have actually gone in the opposite direction and have gentrified the joint. over the last 10 years, give or take.  Unfortunately, our post-war bungalows are rapidly disappearing and those obnoxious, abrasive McMansions are popping up everywhere.  I suppose that’s progress to some, sad for me.  We moved there after my parents divorced from Highland Park in Dallas, which is an elite place to be sure.  The journey from “privileged” status to champion of the underdog makes for some interesting conversation…perhaps another day.


 


We are also bound to revisit the legal vs illegal immigration thing…it is not likely to go away anytime soon.  I am more intrigued by your issues post above and hope to respond to it in a day or so,    Dem turned independent, are you?  Even though I stay pretty much left of center, and have been more radicalized further in that direction after 8 years of Bush, I hear ya.  My issues with the party are not based so much on the candidate but rather lay with the party itself and the need to broaden our two-part system.  Whether or not I like Obama (and I do), I would still be voting along party lines in spite of that, because I see McCain as an instant replay in many respects, particularly where the war is concerned.  The "economy is not my strong suit" confession makes me rea nevous.  I do respect your decision to pull out, though. 


 


I listen to CNN and Fox, mostly with my teeth clenched.  I think Lou Dobbs' obsession with the immigration is a bit inflammatory and counterproductive (no suprise there) in terms of reaching a viable bipartisan consensus, but I will say this much for him.  For the most part, he presents himself in a respectable and respectful manner.  He raises some interesting points that have made me question some of my more radical views on other issues.  I do think he is the type of person that could engage and promote bipartisan cooperation, so in that respect, when I watch his show, my jaw is more relaxed!  Anyway, I think that a write-in vote is a great way to resolve any disenchantment you may have for the other 2 candidates. 


My apology then (nm)
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I owe an apology to no one...
and I am not the one obsessed with ice cream on this board. I prefer to keep my svelte figure rather than pigging out on ice cream and becoming rotund.
An apology for what?
The UN didn't do anything - or did I miss something?
Where did you go? No apology for Democrat?

You're as likely to get an apology from Ann (sm)

as we're likely to get an apology from PK and the other trolls.  Let it go.  The thread has been hijacked, so we'll slip away and let them have their temper tantrums.  When they find out no one is listening they'll crawl back under their bridge and/or troll their other haunts.  The other solution is that is adults here could just ignore them and continue on with our conversation.  It's your call 


Apology accepted
Thank you.
Apology accepted S/M

One great thing about this country is our freedom of speech.  A good thing for me too as in another country I might be beheaded or something as I'm pretty outspoken about things I believe in strongly.  Also, anyone has the right to agree or disagree with either of us and that is partly what makes this country great, I think.


I would love to hear of your life's journey.  I came from near poverty....my dad was a farmer, both parents uneducated....their goal was to make a better life for their children through education.  I made it all the way to upper middle class which is good enough for me.  I traveled many a rocky road though during my life.


I used to love going to the 59 flea market but like you, I now prefer my comfort over flea marketing outdoors.  One thing I can say is since I left Houston in 1990, it sure has changed.  My husband, a Chicago native, and I were visiting the kids once and we were going to drive back to my daughter's house in Tomball to spend the night from my son's house in Magnolia.  Well, not being so familiar with the Magnolia/Tomball area from living there....except for the famous chicken fried steak place in Tomball...forget the name right now, we missed a turn.  I'm about half night blind and after we drove around for quite awhile looking for something I recognized, finally saw the street sign for Gesner so I knew exactly where I was, right?  Wrong.  Didn't realize they'd opened up Gesner half way to Conroe. LOL  We finally got to my daughter's house after a couple of hours, she and my son were about to send out a search party.  We didn't have a cell then.


Have a good day and I do enjoy your posts.


Well, TT...please accept my apology...
I spoke out of turn. While I do have personal knowledge of Mexican immigrants who became citizens, I don't know anyone in the DAR personally. I should not have made that comment. Not like me, but as I stated, trotter pushes my buttons. At any rate...shame on me.

And as to being a daughter of the confedracy, I have no problems there either. I have a friend who is a descendant of Robert E. Lee. He was a fascinating man. His decision to secede took a horrible toll on him. He wanted to preserve the Union as much as Lincoln did. Both great men with great vision.

So, TT, accept my apology for the "tea" comment. Fell prey to stereotypical comment, was wrong of me to do. I would love to learn more about the DAR, so I am going to practice what I preach, and start reading.

You go girl! :)
Okay...apology inside.

Sorry for involving everyone in what turned into a personal confrontation.  In stepping back as some of you have suggested, I examined my feelings and I do feel badly.  I took it too personally and I should not have, though when someone says "you this" and "you that" it is hard not to take it personally.  It is hard not to take it personally when someone calls you a bigot, ignorant...and many other not-so-nice names.  I got my back up...but that is a human reaction in my opinion.  I jus should have shut it down sooner, I agree.


In GW's defense, I think she is very frustrated with the immigration situation because of incidents close to her, understandable, and I became the personification of all she hates about Republicans, conservatives etc., in effect, the object of venting.  Again, I should not have taken it so personally and tried to understand more where that hatred was coming from.


So, I apologize to GW, I apologize to all of you, that I let it get out of hand.  Hard as it may be for some of you to believe, I am not a confrontational person.  Every one of us, at some point, gets all we can stand and feel like we have to stand up.  I just should not have kept it going so long.  We were beating a dead horse and we should have stopped...both of us.


So...sorry, GW.  I know we do not agree on many things and never will.  However, I am as responsible as you for it going on for so long.  And for that I apologize, to you and to others on the board.


And I appreciate the wise moderator who just let it play out.    Cooling myself off.  :)


Apology accepted s/m
Now I really gotta git over yonder and git a haircut before I have to start payin' dog tax on my shaggy head!
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.

I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.

It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.

I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.

It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
N. Korea wants an apology from the U.N.

He's threatening nuclear missles now if he doesn't get the apology


Instead of all the governments playing patty cake with these radical leaders, we should just take them out once and for all.


While O is trying to reduce our defense abilities, these leaders are building up theirs. When is the world (including our country) going to realize you can't deal with leaders like this in a rational manner? "Speak softly but carry a big stick" is the motto we should be following.


 


There was an apology request.

The Security Council must apologize for infringing on the North's sovereignty and "withdraw all its unreasonable and discriminative resolutions and decisions" against the North, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.


Otherwise, the regime "will be compelled to take additional self-defensive measures," including "nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles," the ministry said.


apology accepted, deeni,
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Accept my sincerest apology for s/m
""lumping"" you in.  I totally agree with you about both sides being guilty of the outrageous spending.  The pork has always been there -- this is a very old concept.  I infuriates me to hear the conservatives putting all the blame on the other side, when this has always been a nonpartisan issue.  I just think it is ridiculous to jump to conclusions before anything is given a reasonable amount of time to see if it works or not and, I, for one, am willing to be a little more patient before I start going off the deep end.
My objection to Obama's apology
I see him only heaping scorn on this country and blaming former administration (really only the last one)  for ''arrogance'' for bad behavior,  for a mess he complains he is now stuck cleaning up, etc.  Everything happened pre-Obama.  Everything is now perfect under his regime.  ''I apologize for those dopes.  It won't happen again because I am here to save the day.''   Yuck! 
Truly caring about your country needs no apology....
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So you didn't let her apology stop you from attacking her.

I know it's hard for you, but try to pay attention.  Sheesh!


It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM












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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
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They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby



Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.


President Bush owes me no apology.
He has my profound gratitude for keeping us safe since 9/11.  Nuff said.
Olbermann: "You owe this country an apology." sm
Another great special comment from Keith Olbermann. 
You will wait a long time for an apology for me. sm

In fact, I DEMAND an apology for falsely accusing any of us, after the moderator already told you, that we did not contact her.  An article about Presidente Bush being clinically insane would definitely appear to violate the rules of the board, as posted REPEATEDLY.  How dare you, sir!  To quote your hero, Olberman.


A mere acceptance of my apology would have sufficed.
In the south, it would have been the honorable thing to do.
Ummm...guess you didn't see the apology below....
I had not read through all the threads yet. You took exception to McCain but it looks like you and I have a bit of a hair trigger ourselves....eh?

I am not hung up on Sarah Palin. I do like her. I think she is the most genuine of the 4. I think that is the way she talks in her everyday life, and doesn't bother to window dress and act like something she isn't. And how she expresses herself has nothing to do with intelligence or the lack thereof.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it (there is a folksy one for ya...lol).

This is my favorite, I use it all the time, and I could apply it to the big O's explanation of his association with Ayers:

Barack, sweetie, that dog don't hunt. lol.


And it's doubtful you will get an apology or retraction from her. Can't admit

The Post (sort of) issued an apology.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sharpton_Post_editor_insulting_public_with_0219.html


Ironically (LOL), when I read some posts on this board denying this is blatant racism by the Post, the mental image I get is this (hoping it prints):


Hear


My apology,..didn't realize you lived in Sweden...nm
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The waiting

Waiting

Still waiting...

but you said Michelle Obama does not talk like a black woman?  Again, how do black women talk?


waiting for it.....waiting....waiting...
when is this supposed to break for all of us to know about?
Sure and I'm waiting for it just like you.

Problem is, it ain't gonna happen. There's no magic wand. There are too many things in a heckofamess and nobody can fix it. It will take years and as long as the government keeps in-fighting, it will be the same old, same old, just like it's been for the past 20 years or so.


Still waiting...........
I'm stll waiting for all those Obama lovers who said yes, Obama WOULD make all those wonderful tax cuts for us, to stand up and admit he's a joke! He LIED, plain and simple. Of course, we told them he would not make these tax cuts but oh no, their precious Obama would NEVER lie. Now, they'll say it's the economy. He knew the economy was slowing when he kept making those promises. Sorry, you can't use the economy as an excuse. Of course, Obama knows if he DID make those tax cuts for those he promised it to, he would then be a REPUBLICAN! ROFL!
I'm waiting..... sm
Okay, I do agree with you on some points. This is what I see...

I used to be a democrat and I used to be a republican and I used to be an independent, and I used to be a green party/constitutional party. What I see is this...the whole thing is a mess, all over. Plenty of blame to go around. What I see is, Obama inherited one big huge fat mess. No way to disprove that. Its fact (IMHO). I'm not blaming Obama for any of this and I believe he wants to do what is best and try and pull the country up. With that said....he doesn't "run the country". He is not the grand pubah in charge making decisions, he just gets to tell the American people in a nice and calming way "your screwed". He has a way about him that he can say your screwed and the country will be fine with it. Just the way it is and I am thankful we have a leader who is a calming reassurance to the people. However, with that said...congress/house (don't know which it is), just all those politicians that stand up and make decisions and vote on issues. Those are the people I blame, and last I knew we have had a democratic congress for that last two years. I will no way blame everything on just the dems because the pubs had a fair share in it too. But it's time to stop blaming everything on the pubs because they were not in charge of making all the decisions. They were not in charge of the FM/FM crisis. How long has Pelosi been in? Reid? Dodd? Franks? Conyers? and yes I can think of pubs too but those are the first ones that come to mind and who are on the top of the decision making tree. I take offense (well not really offense, but it is unfair and one-sided) for people to post obviously far left or far right media-wh@re articles blaming all those rich white ugly republicans when they don't take any of the blame themselves. There's enough blame to go around and for every far left article theres a far right one too.

I will stand by what I say...the republicans don't need anything to bring down the dems. They are doing a fine job of it and approval ratings are falling like a lead weight.
Waiting must be something
that happens on the coasts in really high-population areas.  Here in 'flyover country' (the midwest) I've never waited more than a week for a mammo appointment and 3 days for the followup ultrasound when the  mammo found a cyst.  And I've gone through the followup ultrasound routine three times now. 
I keep waiting and waiting for

the free stuff to start flowing to me, but I am simply not being stimulated by any of this.  Is there an application I can fill out...or something? 


I keep waiting and waiting for

the free stuff to start flowing to me, but I am simply not being stimulated by any of this.  Still got a house payment.  Still buying my own gasoline.  Grocery store still charging me the regular rate for food.  Is there an application I have to fill out for all the freebies...or something?