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That's a very wise place to get facts.

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: Who's selling out the American People? - sm

A spot called Killfile? They are blogs from people, not news reports. One-sided views just like everyone on this board complains about. I followed the link and it went to "outtheotherear". Another blog. Checked out the 3 writers. They really caught my eye:


Longing good candy, cool toys and up to date television, Mike and his family came back to Lockport in 1999. There he attended high school and reacquainted himself with the American Way. A “conspiracy theorist” teacher at Lockport High introduced him to politics and suggested that China might become important someday in the near future; he has been hooked on both subjects ever since.


Mike recently graduated from SUNY Geneseo with a BA in International Relations and minors in Asian Studies and History. In place of playing make-believe with Model United Nations and organizing with Democracy Matters, he now spends his free time blogging and looking for the next step in life. He spent the summer and fall working as an organizing fellow and Field Organizer for the Obama campaign in Ohio and Pennsylvania.



Marc is very passionate about environmental, media, rural issues and issues of rural culture. He also feels it is his duty to keep other blogs held accountable. While he’s probably doing it a service in terms of credibility, his continual attacks will probably not leave him loved in the blogosphere.


Kate was born and raised in a dying industrial town in Upstate New York, an area she sees as a microcosm for a majority of America’s many detriments and successes. After earning a degree in History and American Studies, concentrating on Environmental and Native American History, she decided to try out state politics. Hating office work with every fiber of her being, she went back to school and is currently a graduate student, studying for her Master’s in Journalism and is the web Editor for Jerk Magazine, an independent Syracuse University student-run publication. She writes mainly about the inadequacy of mainstream media reporting.


I think you should stop flooding this board with blogs. They are one person opinions.




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Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.


I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm
..and if something you really wish does not happen, then it just 'was not meant to be', often to one's rescue.
Your dad was a very wise man.
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He was wise enough to
accurately assess that the country was ready to elect an African-American president, run a clean campaign and win a healthy mandate without having to resort to dirty campaign tactics, tainted election antics or manipulated/thrown court decisions that left the legitimacy of his office in question for his entire term of service.

His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated and reflect stragegies W could never envision, especially the part about appointments of former opponents and assemblage of such diverse points of view.

Notice I am not speculating about the future, but the rest of the world is. Check out the link below. He not only has world leaders enthused, but has also won hearts and minds of across the planet. Wonder what W's global approval rating would be? Single digits to be sure.

I'd say O is off to a pretty good start. He will be dazzling us with his brilliance (especially vis-a vis his predecessor) in short order.

http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/

she isn't wise
sorry
Maybe it would be wise...
It would be wise to at least wait for the next election day before you start to crow.
You're a very wise person.

There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post.  And you're right.  That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that.  (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)


Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.


and this wise speech comes from a man

who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.


Ahhh the credibility....


Wise Up and Get Real

I am without question loudly and proudly supporting Barack Obama.  I am not supporting him because of the color of his skin, nor am I not supporting John McCain because of the color of his skin.  I am supporting Barack Obama because he has inspired something in me.  The belief and hope and optimism that there are actually people in politics who feel as I feel and will make a difference towards that end.  The belief that people are people and that my neighbors next door and the people who live on the other side of town and the people who live in the next state and the people who live in the south and the people who live in the north all matter regardless of their ethnicities, regardless of their incomes, regardless of their education or lack thereof, regardless of whatever circumstances they have been born into.  We are all Americans and we all deserve a chance to be educated, a chance to have healthcare, a chance to have hopes and dreams, and the opportunity to work for those hopes and dreams. 


John McCain is not going to provide any of that, least of all hope.  It is actually scary that the people who are so dead-set against supporting Barack Obama are the people who would reap so much of the benefits of his presidency.  And I wonder why you don't support him?  Gee, that is such a mystery!  Yet you all go on about McCain picking a woman as his VP.  Big deal!  A woman or man can do the same job, but if you were smart you would realize it is about the right person and gender has nothing to do with smarts, compassion, fairness, hope, inclusion, and inspiration. 


Wake up or you people are going to be in the same situation 4 years from now that you are in now.   After all, how smart can you be if you voted for Bush over Gore.  And better yet, how smart can you be if you gave Bush another 4 years and actually believed the lies about Kerry.  My conscious is clear, I didn't vote for Bush.  I voted for Gore and I certainly voted for Kerry after the first horrific 4 years.  Please educate yourself and wise up.  Fear is the reason Bush is president.  Let go of it and make better decisions.     


And if you are wondering who I am, I will be happy to tell you.  I have been an MT for 5 years.  I am a single parent.  I own my own home and purchased it myself.  I have 1 son.  I homeschool him and he is above grade level in all subjects.  I  also happen to be African American and my son is of mixed race, as his biological father is Caucasian.  I state these facts loudly and proudly just as I loudly and proudly support Barack Obama the best person for the most important job in the world. 


Very wise words.
There's  hope for the younger generation yet!!
Words from the wise

Everyone loves Bill Clinton.  Every single democrat (well almost every single) democrat will praise Bill Clinton up and down.  Even D. Morris referred to him in an interview as being "the most brilliant man" (we about threw up, but we repect Morris' opinion).  He's always talked about with admiration by a great many and everything he says is true (according to a lot of the liberals).  So...here are words from the wise one.


(In an interview about Obama)


"When was the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the senate before he started running.  He will have been a senator longer by the time if he's innaugerated.  But essentially once you start running for President full time you don't have time to do much else"


This is so so true.  How can anyone elect a person with only one year's time in Washington with no experience.  Forget who he is, who he's related to, who he associated with, and even forget the whole non-US citizen thing.


Experience.  That is what we need!  Not a bunch of "feel good" statements to make you believe he cares about you. 


I read an article that said the most rediculous campaign slogan is "Change".  Change into what?  Change into socialism?  "Change For The Worse" is a better slogan. 


"Hope".  There's another one.  Hope?  Hope for what?  Hope they don't see what I'm really about before I can mesmerize them and thell them I feel their pain and will solve all their problems.  "Hopelessness" is a better slogan.


Then his talks about changing the world?  Excuse me...we're voting for US president.  Not Global/Worldwide president.  You only have 1 year in the senate and now you think your qualified to change the whole world.  Oh yeah, I'm sure the other countries are really going to love us with that one.  They're already pretty "tanked up" that Bush is trying to change their government into the same kind we have.  Sure Obama you'll go over really well.  It doesn't surprise me though because the same people who financed Bush are financing Obama.


Sorry, I'm looking for


1.  Someone with more years experience in Washington. 


2.  I'm looking for someone who is prior military and who understands and values our troops.  Who will be able to end the war in victory and bring our troops safely home.  Someone who will not vote against a bill that will provide the funding needed to keep our troops safe.  Obama's plan doesn't tell you there will be a mass exodus to dupe everyone into believing he cares about our troops, but he'll turn right around and send them to other countries equally as dangerous, or what is worse, back to the same area but now the fighting will be worse.  He doesn't care about our troops.  He didn't even have the decency to go over there until forced into it.  And even then he only went to places where there were photo ops for him.


3.  I'm looking for someone who is going to fight for Americans (JM has and will). 


4.  I'm looking for someone whose running mate has more experience than the person running for President on the opposite side.


5.  I'm looking for someone who knows how to rebuild America.  Knows we can't just keep printing more and more money without anything to back it up.  Common economics (guess O skipped that subject in college).


6.  I'm looking for someoe who will not increase our taxes like Obama's plan will, all while sugar coating it and trying to convince us that it's good for us.


There are many many more reasons why I am for M/P over O/B, but those are just a few. 


And....seeing as Bill Clinton is considered to be one of the most intelligent persons in American I will believe his words out of his own mouth. 


Wise guys....
our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.

Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.

My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?

Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.

Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
Your dad sounds like a wise man
and that might explain the enthusiasm of the OP (and my own). It reminds me of that novel from the 60s, Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up To Me. The very fact that the W era will be a closed chapter FOREVER, and that we can FINALLY turn the page and come out into the light from the NeoCon nightmare is enough reason to party 'til the cows come home. I'll take "hard," even "worse," minus W with a smile on my face and another glass of Kool-Aid, please. Make mine sunny orange, please.
Well spoken, oh wise one.

I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House:  America, Love It Or Leave It!  I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too! 


Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever.  However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore. 


Keith is great.  The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies.  Why was the rest of the media so frightened? 


On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history:  Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country. 


Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 


Because investors are getting wise to the whole
Count me OUT 4-ever.
Thanks, Sis! (Cheese it, though - someone might get wise.)
Tell Mom I'll be home for Mother's Day.
Gee, O's doing great $$ wise.

Besides his salary as President and his expense account, he made over $2 million on his book sales so far. Maybe he will share the wealth? NOT!. The rules for the little people don't pertain to him.


Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.

Here ya go.........

http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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Just goes to show everyone doesn't become wise with age. nm
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Very wise post - you are right on with how I feel
And so many of us out there. His calming demeanor...yes most definitely. He has a soothing and reassuring voice. If I was in an accident or something like that his voice would be very reassuring and calming, but everything else I agree with you.

I loved your post. Thanks.
It is wise to broaden one's mind..... sm
but not to the point that one's brains fall out.

I was not attempting to retract a statement, unsuccessfully or otherwise. I was illustrating the point that the statement needed to be taken in context.
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
Words of the wise from one of the greatest men in history
I wish more people were interested in all that our founding fathers did for us.
Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
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Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?


What good to reduce out carbon footprint when China and India won't, and if it bankrupts our whole nation?


the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
Wise choice on your part - and poor judgement on O's! nm
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Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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He got a look when Biden was making wise cracks about Justice Roberts at the swearing in. sm
I think when he is under stress he has a hard time hiding how he feels, but I think it is more a sign that he is honest about his feelings, not that he is going to act out in some crazy way.
When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.

Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.

Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.

And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.

She's not whining, and neither are we.

I just shake my head at your audacity.

The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.




IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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There's a place for everything!!!
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she did go to the right place
they had her husband listed but not her. she went on the county website and found her active status after she got home but now it's too late because of the provisional ballot being accepted.
You ought to see the place now.
The people who bought it left the barn fall apart. They tore down the summer kitchen (2 rooms, 1 up, 1 down)  and "canning house" (24 x 40), and never took care of the orchard. It looks like a dump...and it breaks my heart. Everything was in good shape when we tried to buy it.
Probably the same place she gets
It seems to be of comparable quality.
Web site best place.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Mouse over the issues and a drop down list will provide you with lots of links that should keep you busy. You can also check out some of his better speeches if you like. If you are interested in being conversational and social and an Obama party, this is the place for you.

As you have already discovered, this chat room is the last place to look. The web site simply lays out the platform and policies in Obama's own words, without bias one way or the other..simple straight talk.

If, however, you are interested in getting kicked out of the party and labeled a right-wing fringe element, then go to the other links on black liberation theology. You are free, of course, to read about it and come to your own conclusions. But if you do explore that issue, please read the website throughly before deciding whether or not you think he subscribes to that theology. I can tell you categorically, none of his supporters believe the propaganda suggested to you in the other posts in this regard. It would be interesting to ask others at the party what they think about the assertions that Obama embodies those beliefs.

How refreshing to find a voter as open minded as this. Good luck with our research. Feel free to email me with any questions you may have.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
System in place........
No more taxes? Would be nice, but have to have some system in place to run schools, hospitals, keep infrastructure up to date, etc.

That is what your state is supposed to be responsible for.....not our government.


that's okay - I just said we needed something in place nm
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And, according to the Q'ran there is a place
in h*ll for all who are not Muslim, including you, if you are not Muslim.

Wanna dispute that?

there is already some provisions in place -
I already had my preexisting conditions covered because I had had continuous coverage for 18 months before with another company - so it can be done already in some cases. Why would it be impossible to make it a law in every case?
That would be the US Senate....same place as McC
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put this in the wrong place--sorry
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I only everybody would think like you, the world would be a better place,...thanks,.....nm
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