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That's interesting, coming from one of the most judgment neocons on the liberal board.

Posted By: Hmmmmmmmmmm on 2005-09-24
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acc. to your judgment; WHAT is a liberal and what is an independent?..nm
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You make that judgment from one post on a board....
are we then to assume, because of Bill Clinton's antics, that all democrats are morally bankrupt?
To anyone who bet the neoCONS couldn't stay off this board for FIVE MINUTES

You won!  More accurately, we have all lost because they just won't leave, because in their twisted peasized brains, they believe they have the right to run this board, as well.  They're like filthy roaches that just won't go away.


In case you didn't notice, gt, we called a truce, which you just blew. sm





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Posted By: sm on 2005-09-18,
In Reply to: respectful? You? LOL! - gt

I have been off this board a long time and was just discussing with another poster here calling a truce and I was VERY respectful in these posts, but, of course, you had to start up again.  To the other poster who I made the truce with, can you see now why there can never be a truce here?  


I have been coming to this board off and on

for a while now, usually just stay quiet because I don't agree with half of what either side says and I really don't like all the bashing part of politics.  Some of the things said here and other places are quite disgusting, the bickering I can handle and actually enjoy reading, but when it gets to that base level it is just disturbing to me.  But, here is my question.  And, I'll preface it by saying that I am a Republican but am finding myself more of an independent after the last 8 years.


For all the people spouting off the virtues of Sarah Palin, I have not heard one comment in her defense or an excuse for her about her part in that whole radio morning show.  You know the one, where the radio DJ was making fun, being cruel really, about a the President of the Senate in Alaska that he, nor SP like.  You know the part when he called her fat and SP just laughed, when he called this woman a BI*CH and she just laughed, when he called this woman a cancer and she just laughed (BTW, this woman actually had cancer and they knew that).  Sure, she later said she was "caught off guard" by his comment.  Whatever.  Wouldn't a decent human being have just said, Stop.  I'm not going to take part in this.  Any number of things.  If she was so caught off guard by that, what is she going to do as VP.  And, how does she end the whole conversation.  When the DJ makes a comment about visiting Palin, she says "I'd be honored to have you."


This is probably my #1 problem with her.  She seems to have a total lack of compassion.  She enjoyed bashing Obama during her speech the other night, and I was disgusted to see that the audience seemed to enjoy it too.  I have worked within my community and I am proud of that, as should Obama be.  I didn't hear a whole lot in her speech about what she plans to do, or what her actual stand on issues are.  I didn't hear much of them from McCain either. 


I dare say that if these 2 keep letting her evade the tough questions, well any questions at all, I might be crossing lines this year.  Yes, it seems that the media, or certain media, are unnecessarily attacking her but I hope that doesn't become an excuse for them to have her not answer questions.


the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
Not coming out with hate against Obama on this board? Are you serious!?
there's hate all over this board, whether it is because he is black, whether because people believe the anti-Obama stuff, or because he is a LIBERAL, oooohhh, bad boy liberal.  As for Sarah Palin, I don't hate her, I don't know her.  All I know is that she is a very poor pick for VP especially for a man who is 72.  She has no credentials to do the President's job.  Oooo, but Obama has no experience.... Well, he has been all over the world, has met with different heads of state, has been fully vetted, has lived a life that he knows different kinds/types of people, and he is very intelligent.  In all honesty, Sarah Palin does not answer one question with the intelligence that satisfies me, and she dances all around the questions she does not know how to answer.  If she isn't coached, she doesn't do very well.  When she is coached, that is her pat answer for the entire episode of questioning.  Not very smart, not good for America, McCain did not put Country First, he put McCain First.  All a political ploy, and the right fell for it hook, line and sinker.
get off the liberal board
Why must you conservatives continue to post here?  We dont want you or your ideology posted here..Bush is to fault, for gosh sakes, he even admitted it..in his pea brain he kind of realizes he was wrong in his response..
get off the liberal board
Can you not read English?  Get off the liberal board, fool..bye bye..get out of here..
thought this was the liberal board
you know, the stench of all stenches!  you don't have to read anything here, especially if it gugs ya!  Sorry.  But I don't feel about "shrub" the same as you.  So what does that make you?  Better than everybody else?  Okay then you put up with him, but I'm not gonna take his lies, his rude remarks as in "Oh, we didn't find WMDs, did we?" as he laughs at a fund-raising during the time that our troops are dying for him...Put that in your pipe...Them's is facts!
It's not your right to bash her - this is the liberal board
As I said, if you have a problem with liberal ideology being expressed on this board, you need to contact the administrator as she is the one that helped toward having the two boards and requested many times to not bash.  Can you understand that?
Go over to the conservative board, and look for *you must be a liberal if* sm
and I'm sure there are some other pieces over there that you might find comical. Then let us know if you still think this is the most stereotypical thing you have EVER read.

It's meant to humor liberals. That's why it's on a liberal board. :):):)
Why a liberal and a conservative board?
I don't get this.  Why is there a board for liberals and a board for conservatives?  It's not like no one comes to the liberal board who isn't, and what fun would that be, anyway?  And is everyone comfortable with the labels?  I consider myself a liberal on many issues, but there are some issues on which I would agree with conservatives.  For instance, I want less government (which Bush supposedly wants, ha!).  I think people ought to be able to bears arms and it's a real good thing for Iraq that Saddam Hussein didn't keep them from having them, so now they can try to repel the foreign invaders.  Just a couple of issues for which no label really works....
Excuse me, but this is the liberal board.
The only person who isn't respecting it is you.
This is the liberal board and I'll do as I please. (NT)


Is this the liberal board anymore?
I give you Democrats and/or liberals credit for even being able to respond to the right wing who for some reason, I just cannot understand why, constantly come over to the liberal board and post more than the liberals do and every post is a disagreement or outright attack towards the liberal poster who posted on the liberal board..I frankly have had it with the Republicans.  They have messed up America with their backward way of thinking and they still dont get it.  Their party is falling apart and they are looking at more Democrats being voted in yet they still spew their hate, bias, closed mindedness..From Limbaugh to Coulter to Falwell to Robertson, Dobson, Hannity, etc., etc., they show the world how uninformed and racist and backward they are..and the Republican masses follow blindly.  I just about choked on the latest idiotic comment by Coulter concerning Christians and Jews.  Someone needs to set that broad straight real fast.  The comments she made that Jews need to be perfected is a mind set right out of Hitlers Germany. Oh and all you Republicans who will wander over to the liberal board and real this, dont waste the energy, I will not respond to your posts nor read them.  This is a post to my fellow Democrats/liberals. 
What's brining you over here to the LIBERAL board is the question????
Do some self evaluation before you try to check me chick!


Please remember this is the liberal board and try to respect that.
It's the liberal board and it's for liberal discussion topics.  If you want to change that you need to contact the administrator.  Please don't bash.
Your permission is not necessary for her to "spout" on the LIBERAL board.
Apparently you had forgotten.
Since when are you the judge of what is more stimulating on a LIBERAL board?

I don't find anything you write to be stimulating, intelligent, educational or worthy of debate.  And as far as patting people on the back, that's what you do on the Conservative board.  You bash liberals, ALL liberals, EVERY LIBERAL IN THE WORLD, and then the people with the crudest, rudest insults against liberals are patted on the back and high-fived by the rest of you.


Liberals don't discuss things like Repuglicants do.  We would rather be civil with people and find you incredibly distasteful human beings. They obviously call you neoCONS for a reason.  Your posts are nothing but litter...trash...garbage, and I for one, can't relate to and don't want to communicate with people who do nothing but prove how ignorant, childish, hateful, nasty, untruthful and uncouth they are.  Is this really the image you want to portray of your party?  Because that's what you're doing.


Why can't you just be happy on your own board and stay away from people who have asked you repeatedly to stay away because we're not interested in your rhetoric and your attacks?  Or, like your president, aren't you happy unless you're destroying things? 


This is the liberal board. She can scream all she wants. If you don't like it, LEAVE.

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the Liberal Board.

This is the liberal board. Please do not bash the posters here. Thank you. nm

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Wow....an aspiring Ann Coulter right here on the liberal board...
what a hateful, bigoted rant, vrt...are there any Jewish people in my neck of the woods? Christians get a sensivity chip in their brains? Wow...you sound a lot like the person you are slamming. Pot, kettle, BIG TIME.

Okay...Al Franken made a terribly offensive remark toward gays. Yet the left blew that off. Media totally did not report it. Some said he was *joking.* Do you think gays found that funny?

Your protests ring hollow when you accept it on your side and criticize on the other...I don't see where you have any high moral ground to speak from.

Your post speaks to it.

When I said she was an entertainer, I said that is what she does. And it is what she does. I never said I liked it and in fact said it WAS offensive and wrong. Yet you want to attack me personally because of semantics. AL Franken is also an entertainer. He has made terrible, offensive, nasty comments. I don't watch him. I don't listen to Coulter either.

As to your "freaking ignorant" comment...perhaps people in glass houses should not throw stones.
Yeah....liberal compassion. I see a LOT of that on this board....
laughable. But again, skirted entirely around the issue.
What liberal board did you copy this smut
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I see that no liberal on this board was outraged by your post...sm
Did you also see in the news about the walls outside of congressional offices, new furniture being thrown out, as well as files and files of personal info?

Where is the outrage about this? I could only find it on Fox, so obviously the liberal media could care less.

I guess this has been going on for some time, but still....it really makes me mad....


....just like the fact that they voted themselves raises and are hoping no one would notice........
Interesting post regarding US Citizenship on another board...
Not true at all, even if your parent is a us citizen, if you are born in another country, you are a us citizen, but you are forever disqualified from running for president. This does not apply to military bases and diplomats. That is the law. My boss happens to have been born in canada to us citizens working there at the time. Took him 3 years to be able to get a passport to leave the us on vacation and yes they notified him he could never run for president. That is the difference between being a us citizen and a naturalized us citizen.

I believe it is also the same for anyone whom has ever claimed citizenship outside of the us, once you claim citizenship anywhere else, you are disqualified from running for president.
Why are you starting these dumb @$$ threads on the liberal board?
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Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
Thank you.
"Our opposition.." You are the voice of the liberal board?
Guffaw.
Now, now, GT, that is precisely the kind of post that belongs on the Liberal Board!

Do you know where we can find one?


But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.

I see the liberal left on this board...save one "sm" could care less for your post....sm
Dems everywhere want total control, and obviously could care less what happens once that is obtained.





This goes to judgment...

fast forward all the way to the end...


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM


This is about the judgment and responsibility of
a woman who could possibly be the next Prez if something happens to the old man.  This is not about who will conduct the next PTA meeting.
The ad is questioning his judgment
not whether he was exonerated. 
Poor Judgment
Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
In your rush to judgment,
the reason for the 2-day delay might have been family related, rather than campaign related? Obama's great-uncle and sister were in attendance when she was released from the hospital.

Like any other human being, he has brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles and cousins. Even in the most dyfunctional families and in those whose life circumstances keep them miles apart, often times they come together around a death bed to offer their support. His grandmother's 86th birthday is Sunday. Perhaps the timing had to do with coordinating his visit with the presence of other family who needed a day or 2 to "drop everything" and catch a plane. Who can really know the exact reason?

My prayer for Madelyn Dunham is that she has the strengh to hold on long enough to to turn 86 and to see her grandson be elected the next President of the United States. My guess is that she will be doing just that.
Did I hear you say Bad Judgment?
been trying to get someone to question since day one of this campaign!! Obama's Judgment of the people he chooses to advise and lead him! THANK YOU!! for finally realizing judgment is an issue.
For more on what NeoCons say when
Neocons on a Cruise: What Conservatives Say When They Think We Aren't Listening
By Johann Hari, Independent UK. July 17, 2007.

I am standing waist-deep in the Pacific Ocean, both chilling and burning, indulging in the polite chit-chat beloved by vacationing Americans. A sweet elderly lady from Los Angeles is sitting on the rocks nearby, telling me dreamily about her son. "Is he your only child?" I ask. "Yes," she says. "Do you have a child back in England?" she asks. No, I say. Her face darkens. "You'd better start," she says. "The Muslims are breeding. Soon, they'll have the whole of Europe."

I am getting used to these moments - when gentle holiday geniality bleeds into… what? I lie on the beach with Hillary-Ann, a chatty, scatty 35-year-old Californian designer. As she explains the perils of Republican dating, my mind drifts, watching the gentle tide. When I hear her say, " Of course, we need to execute some of these people," I wake up. Who do we need to execute? She runs her fingers through the sand lazily. "A few of these prominent liberals who are trying to demoralise the country," she says. "Just take a couple of these anti-war people off to the gas chamber for treason to show, if you try to bring down America at a time of war, that's what you'll get." She squints at the sun and smiles. " Then things'll change."

I am travelling on a bright white cruise ship with two restaurants, five bars, a casino - and 500 readers of the National Review. Here, the Iraq war has been "an amazing success". Global warming is not happening. The solitary black person claims, "If the Ku Klux Klan supports equal rights, then God bless them." And I have nowhere to run.

From time to time, National Review - the bible of American conservatism - organises a cruise for its readers. I paid $1,200 to join them. The rules I imposed on myself were simple: If any of the conservative cruisers asked who I was, I answered honestly, telling them I was a journalist. Mostly, I just tried to blend in - and find out what American conservatives say when they think the rest of us aren't listening.

From sweet to suicide bomber

I arrive at the dockside in San Diego on Saturday afternoon and stare up at the Oosterdam, our home for the next seven days. Filipino boat hands are loading trunks into the hull and wealthy white folk are gliding onto its polished boards with pale sun parasols dangling off their arms.

The Reviewers have been told to gather for a cocktail reception on the Lido, near the very top of the ship. I arrive to find a tableau from Gone With the Wind, washed in a thousand shades of grey. Southern belles - aged and pinched - are flirting with old conservative warriors. The etiquette here is different from anything I have ever seen. It takes me 15 minutes to realise what is wrong with this scene. There are no big hugs, no warm kisses. This is a place of starchy handshakes. Men approach each other with stiffened spines, puffed-out chests and crunching handshakes. Women are greeted with a single kiss on the cheek. Anything more would be French.

I adjust and stiffly greet the first man I see. He is a judge, with the craggy self-important charm that slowly consumes any judge. He is from Canada, he declares (a little more apologetically), and is the founding president of "Canadians Against Suicide Bombing". Would there be many members of "Canadians for Suicide Bombing?" I ask. Dismayed, he suggests that yes, there would.

A bell rings somewhere, and we are all beckoned to dinner. We have been assigned random seats, which will change each night. We will, the publicity pack promises, each dine with at least one National Review speaker during our trip.

To my left, I find a middle-aged Floridian with a neat beard. To my right are two elderly New Yorkers who look and sound like late-era Dorothy Parkers, minus the alcohol poisoning. They live on Park Avenue, they explain in precise Northern tones. "You must live near the UN building," the Floridian says to one of the New York ladies after the entree is served. Yes, she responds, shaking her head wearily. "They should suicide-bomb that place," he says. They all chuckle gently. How did that happen? How do you go from sweet to suicide-bomb in six seconds?

The conversation ebbs back to friendly chit-chat. So, you're a European, one of the Park Avenue ladies says, before offering witty commentaries on the cities she's visited. Her companion adds, "I went to Paris, and it was so lovely." Her face darkens: "But then you think - it's surrounded by Muslims." The first lady nods: "They're out there, and they're coming." Emboldened, the bearded Floridian wags a finger and says, "Down the line, we're not going to bail out the French again." He mimes picking up a phone and shouts into it, "I can't hear you, Jacques! What's that? The Muslims are doing what to you? I can't hear you!"

Now that this barrier has been broken - everyone agrees the Muslims are devouring the French, and everyone agrees it's funny - the usual suspects are quickly rounded up. Jimmy Carter is "almost a traitor". John McCain is "crazy" because of "all that torture". One of the Park Avenue ladies declares that she gets on her knees every day to " thank God for Fox News". As the wine reaches the Floridian, he announces, "This cruise is the best money I ever spent."

They rush through the Rush-list of liberals who hate America, who want her to fail, and I ask them - why are liberals like this? What's their motivation? They stutter to a halt and there is a long, puzzled silence. " It's a good question," one of them, Martha, says finally. I have asked them to peer into the minds of cartoons and they are suddenly, reluctantly confronted with the hollowness of their creation. "There have always been intellectuals who want to tell people how to live," Martha adds, to an almost visible sense of relief. That's it - the intellectuals! They are not like us. Dave changes the subject, to wash away this moment of cognitive dissonance. "The liberals don't believe in the constitution. They don't believe in what the founders wanted - a strong executive," he announces, to nods. A Filipino waiter offers him a top-up of his wine, and he mock-whispers to me, "They all look the same! Can you tell them apart?" I stare out to sea. How long would it take me to drown?


since we have two neocons

(or one posting 2x) agreeing that they saw a person on Fox news refer to SP's "T#2s" I think the point is moot.  Thanks for the backup. That is, unless you have an explanation about referring to a female candidate by her body parts is not sexist, you have confirmed my original statement. Twist and shout, baby. work it on out.


 


Oh, something tells me you'd love to be at that judgment. ...sm
I think nothing would delight you more.

>> of all these babies aborted, could one of them have been the person that cures cancer? Or becomes the next great leader? >>

That seems wildly optimistic to me. I think it's just as likely that of all those babies aborted, one could have been the next Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Timothy McVeigh (sp?). Or, more likely, just your average low-life criminal, or not-so-productive drain on society. I mean, I don't mean to be negative, but most people are just, well, I think "average" is putting it nicely. Have you been to the mall or any other public place lately? Wow.


>> Abortion is an easy way out. If you can't make the correct choice to have sex or not, to use protection or not, then you should have to live with the consequences>>

You should have to live with the consequences? So... pregnancy and parenthood as punishment, then? You sound awfully vindictive. So, have sex without protection like when you're a stupid teenager, or even with protection and it fails, and be punished for it for the rest of your life and the child's? Yeah. That sounds like a great recipe for the neverending cycle of misery and poverty that some people get stuck in.
He made a big error in judgment

By boycotting Fox.  The numbers prove literally daily that they have the most viewers of all, and look how many pay for the cable version of Fox? 


Hillary went on The Factor and was treated very fairly, and was also treated with great respect by Greta.  Incidentally, Greta, a Scientologist, is not what I'd consider to be part of the "vast right wing conspiracy."  So much for the "Republican" channel!  Incidentally, Greta has invited Obama multiple times as well, to no avail.


Wow, how foolish.


Excuse me. He has all the experience, judgment
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I didn't rush my judgment, I have had

several days now to ponder this, wondering why he put it off.


When my father fell ill, my brother dropped everything to get here with the rest of us.  He had to get on the first flight out.  He didn't make it in time.  It was also that same brother's birthday, the day my dad died.


So before you rush to judgment with me, I have been there, done that.


The so called liberal media is not so liberal anymore...sm
Case and point Fox News is the #1 media outlet via ratings and hardhitting conservative anchors, pundits, and journalists. Other than Hardball, I don't know of another mainstream show that puts the liberal point of view out there and checks this administration and their policies.
liberal hit piece by a liberal deep thinker....
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Recess for neocons
No actually, recess is for you neocons who have never grown up, who remain in the dark ages of long ago..the dinosaurs of the political system in America.  Like those names, though, they fit chimp boy really well.  Thanks!
sweet neocons
Love the Rolling Stones, always have, but I think the name of the song should have been..Lying sack of dirt, warmonger, murdering, chickenhawk neocons..but I guess since the Rolling Stones are a commercial band and have contracts with the NFL, they had to keep their song a bit low key..
statements from neocons

Read at your own risk..make sure you have a puke bucket close by.


Quotes from the The American Taliban










Ann Coulter

 


"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."


"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."


"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'"










Bailey Smith



"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."


 









Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America)



"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."










Bob Dornan (Rep. R-CA)



"Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"


 









David Barton (Wallbuilders)



"There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."










David Trosch



"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. – Unless there is life there can be no murder."


 









Fob James (Governor of Alabama)



"Behind this judicial wall of separation there is a tyranny of lies that will fall... I say to you, my friends, let it fall!"


"A good butt-whipping and then a prayer is a wonderful remedy."










Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church)



"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."


"Hear the word of the LORD, America, fag-enablers are worse than the fags themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"


"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing, anal-copulating fags that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"


"American Veterans are to blame for the fag takeover of this nation. They have the power in their political lobby to influence the zeitgeist, get the fags out of the military, and back in the closet where they belong!"


"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."


 









Gary Bauer (American Values)



"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."










Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics)



"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."


"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."


 









Gary Potter (Catholics for Christian Political Action)



"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."










George Bush Sr. (President of the United States)



"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."


 











George W. Bush (President of the United States)



"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."*


"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."


"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."


"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."




*Comment about Wiccans in the military










Henry Morris (Institute for Creation Research)



"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."


 









J. B. Stoner (White Supremacist)



"We had lost the fight for the preservation of the white race until God himself intervened in earthly affairs with AIDS to rescue and preserve the white race that he had created.... I praise God all the time for AIDS."


"AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and Niggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the queers. I guess God hates queers for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against queers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a queer into becoming a queer, means his white bloodline has run out."










James Dobson (Focus on the Family)



"Those who control the access to the minds of children will set the agenda for the future of the nation and the future of the western world."


"State Universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse."


"Today's children... They're damned. They're gone."


 









James Kennedy (Center for Reclaiming America)



"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ."












James Watt (Secretary of the Interior)



 


 


"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."*


 



*Secretary of the Interior in the Reagan Admin. Responsible for National Policy regarding the Environment










Jay Grimstead (Coalition on Revival)



"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."










Jerry Falwell




"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."


"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."


"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."


"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."


"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."


 









Jesse Helms (Sen. R-NC)




"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."


"All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."


"Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade-school classes that teach our children that cannibalism, wife-swapping and murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior."


"Homosexuals are weak, morally sick wretches."










Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries)



"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"


"Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."


"Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."


 









John Ashcroft (Attorney General)



"Civilized people – Muslims, Christians, and Jews – all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator."










John Whitehead (Rutherford Institute)



"The [Supreme] Court, by seeking to equate Christianity with other religions, merely assaults the one faith. The Court in essence is assailing the true God by democratizing the Christian religion."


 









Joseph McCarthy (Sen. R-WI)



"Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between Communistic Atheism and Christianity."










Joseph Morecraft (Chalcedon Presbyterian Church)



"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."


 











Joseph Scheidler (Pro-Life Action League)


 


 



"I would like to outlaw contraception...contraception is disgusting – people using each other for pleasure."*




*I get the distinct impression that Mr. Scheidler's poor wife isn't guilty of feeling any pleasure…










Kay O'Connor (Kansas Senate Republican)



"I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women today, we wouldn't have to vote."


 









Keith A. Fournier (Catholic Way)



"We need a legal strategy which protects the rights of those of us who hold Christian convictions which will afford us the opportunity to contend once again for the mind of this culture."










Laura Schlessinger



"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do."


 











Lester Roloff (Texas Homes for Wayward Youth)


 


 



"Better a pink bottom than a black soul."*




*Roloff opened a chain of homes for "wayward" youth in the state of Texas; he was later jailed in 1973 and again in 1975 for child abuse due to the punitive punishment techniques used in his homes. He would have been finished had he not of been specifically given permision to re-open his homes by, you guested it, Governor George W Bush.










Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin



“George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.”


 









Pat Buchanan (Presidential Candidate)



"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."


"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."


"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."










Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition)




"The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers."


"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."


"When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals – the two things seem to go together."


"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."


"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist."


"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."


"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."


"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."


 











Patrick Mahoney (Christian Defense Coalition)

 


 


"It is deeply troubling to have an appointed, unelected commission remove an elected official from office [Roy Moore]. The Court of Judiciary has overturned an election and crushed the democratic process through their actions."*




*Interesting perspective coming from someone who's President was appointed by a group of "unelected judges", thus overturning a democratic election.












Paul Cameron




"I think that actually AIDS is a guardian. That is I think it was sent, if you would, about forty years ago, to destroy Western civilization unless we change our sexual ways. So it's really a Godsend."


"Homosexuality is a crime against humanity."


"Causes of homosexuality include: 'sex with animals'"*


"Unless we get medically lucky, in three or four years, one of the options discussed will be the extermination of homosexuals."


 



*Paul Cameron was discharged from the American Psychological Association, the Nebraska Psychological Association, and the American Sociological Association due to his unethical practices and biased research regarding Homosexuals. His "research" has since been discredited by the scientific community; however his work is still referenced by many fundamentalist organizations as credible.












Randall Terry (Operation Rescue)




"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."


"Our goal must be simple. We must have a Christian nation built on God's law, on the ten Commandments. No apologies."


"I don't think Christians should use birth control. You consummate your marriage as often as you like – and if you have babies, you have babies."


"When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."*


"There is going to be war, [and Christians may be called to] take up the sword to overthrow the tyrannical regime that oppresses them."




*It is interesting to note that Randell Terry's son is Gay










Jerry Vines (Southern Baptist Convention)



"They would have us believe that Islam is just as good as Christianity. Christianity was founded by the virgin-born son of God, Jesus Christ. Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives, the last one of which was a nine-year-old girl."


 











Rick Santorum* (Sen. R-PA)


 


 



"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [Gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!"




*Now known as Rick "Santorum" Santorum










Robert Simonds (Citizens for Excellence in Education)



"As the church watches from the sidelines, the ungodly elect atheists and homosexuals to school boards and legislatures to enact policies and laws that destroy our Christian children and discriminate against Christian families."


"Atheistic secular humanists should be removed from office and Christians should be elected...Government and true Christianity are inseparable."


"We'll take away their power and their money. Money comes from students. We'll break their backs by taking 24 million kids out of the public schools."


 













"Raising your children under Americanism or any other principles other than true Christianity is child abuse."


"You do not have the right to be wrong, regardless of what any man-made or demonic charter says."


"Democracy originated in the mind of a rational being who has the deepest hatred for God."


"Do you realize that the only thing that gives democracy existence is sin? The absence of democracy is perfect obedience to god."


"The best way to insure the earth is never over populated is for sensible and righteous governments to clear all forms of atheism and heresy."










Ronald Reagan (President of the United States)



"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ."


 











Roy Moore (Former Alabama Judge)


 


 



"If they want to get the Commandments, they're going to have to get me first."*


"Worship With Your Vote"




*Interesting observation of the Radical Right, Judge Roy Moore commits peaceful civil disobedience by refusing to remove the Ten Commandments Monument from the Court. He is considered a Hero. Mayor Gavin Newsom commits peaceful civil disobedience by issuing same-sex marriage licenses. He is considered an Anarchist.












Rush Limbaugh




"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."


"If you commit a crime, you're guilty."*


"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"


 



*Seems logical enough, doesn't it Rush?










Star Parker (Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education)



"Anybody that believes in separation of church and state needs to leave right now."










Tony Evans (Promise Keepers)



"The demise of our community and culture is the fault of sissified men who have been overly influenced by women."


 









William Rehnquist (Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court)



"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."












Michael Savage (Savage Nation)

 




"Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it."*


 



*Statement made on live national television